Re: [ml] ssls Austrailian Boiler Codes
Hi Mike. The information given to you via the AMBSC column in the AME magazine is totally dead wrong! RitG - a group called Rails in the Garden, and a number of other groups across the country, had got together to draft a code for smaller boilers due to the fact that the AMBSC copper boiler code is not practical for the small Gauge 1, "G" scale and 32 mil scale boilers. it was never meant for those boilers, and as a result is spectacularly over engineered. The new proposal was worked out by a highly competent group via meetings teleconferences and immense amounts of e-mail Unfortunately someone in AMBSC, opposed to the concept and th the small scale "Steam toys" (His phrase), wrote the "Kettle " column , and totally distorted the whole situation. The discussions are still going on, made much more difficult by the deliberate misinformation spread in the Kettle article. No one has gone off in a huff to play trains! AMBSC did not bring this up as stated below, and we are all trying to get this profitably resolved. Jim Gregg. At 01:06 PM 3/9/04 -0600, you wrote: Interesting things afoot in Australia regarding small scale boiler codes. I just received Australian Model Engineering (AME) issues 112 (January) and 113 (March). Some group identified as RitGoG approached AMBSC about coverage of small scale boilers down towards the 35 psi, 1 liter, 2 inch diameter AMBSC exclusion zone that basically exceeded the pressure limit. AMBSC said not in the form submitted. So AMBSC had a meeting with an interested group of people, not RitGoG, and sent it back to RitGoG for comment. At this point, after stirring up the hornets nest, RitGoG backed out saying that it was too much work, and they just wanted to play trains. So AMBSC is left holding the nest, so to speak, and looking to get a decent representation of interests in deciding what to do about the new part of the code that they have taken on development of. So things will probably get interesting since AMBSC has to thrash this out. Mike Eorgoff
Re: ssls Austrailian Boiler Codes
Mike The article you are referring to was not a true description of the facts, written by another committee member not in full awareness of the facts and wanting to "score points". Rails in the Garden have been working on a draft code for little boilers for some 18 months. With input from local manufacturers and other people well versed on small scale live steam. Rails in the Garden is still working amicably with the AMBSC to address the problem. Rails in the Garden has a live steam layout which we have been showing at public exhibitions for 8 years. In this time we have seen the hobby grow with many "converts" running ready made engines and a growing number of scratch builders. The group has the full support of all small scale live steam groups in Australia in getting the situation sorted. http://www.ritginc.orgis the website for the group Regards Paul Interesting things afoot in Australia regarding small scale boiler codes. I just received Australian Model Engineering (AME) issues 112 (January) and 113 (March). Some group identified as RitGoG approached AMBSC about coverage of small scale boilers down towards the 35 psi, 1 liter, 2 inch diameter AMBSC exclusion zone that basically exceeded the pressure limit. AMBSC said not in the form submitted. So AMBSC had a meeting with an interested group of people, not RitGoG, and sent it back to RitGoG for comment. At this point, after stirring up the hornets nest, RitGoG backed out saying that it was too much work, and they just wanted to play trains. So AMBSC is left holding the nest, so to speak, and looking to get a decent representation of interests in deciding what to do about the new part of the code that they have taken on development of. So things will probably get interesting since AMBSC has to thrash this out. Mike Eorgoff
ssls Austrailian Boiler Codes
Interesting things afoot in Australia regarding small scale boiler codes. I just received Australian Model Engineering (AME) issues 112 (January) and 113 (March). Some group identified as RitGoG approached AMBSC about coverage of small scale boilers down towards the 35 psi, 1 liter, 2 inch diameter AMBSC exclusion zone that basically exceeded the pressure limit. AMBSC said not in the form submitted. So AMBSC had a meeting with an interested group of people, not RitGoG, and sent it back to RitGoG for comment. At this point, after stirring up the hornets nest, RitGoG backed out saying that it was too much work, and they just wanted to play trains. So AMBSC is left holding the nest, so to speak, and looking to get a decent representation of interests in deciding what to do about the new part of the code that they have taken on development of. So things will probably get interesting since AMBSC has to thrash this out. Mike Eorgoff