Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0308 (Last Message Correction)

2012-10-13 Thread Mark Rejhon
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Gunnar Hellström <
gunnar.hellst...@omnitor.se> wrote:

> On 2012-10-13 04:24, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>
>> I know that Kev has been quite busy, but he's quire reliable and I'm
>> sure he will incorporate the Last Call feedback as he has promised to do.
>>
> Was there any last call conclusion?
> The feedback was so varied,
> some saying that the feature was essential, some saying that it should not
> be allowed,
> some requiring that the edited message shall be shown last with
> changemarks, some accepting the change made in place.
> Edit any versus strictly edit last was also discussed.
>
> My conclusions are:
> 1. The feature will be allowed. ( deduced from your answer that Kev is
> asked do do an update )
> 2. How edits are presented to the receiving user is out of scope, but a
> recommendation to make it clearly displayed that there was an edit will be
> included.
> 3. Edit any previous will be included. It is up to the transmitter to use
> it or not. Receivers should be prepared to act on editing any previous.
>

This is my preference as well, though I seemed to recall that Kevin was
going to keep it as is, for editing just the last message.   Regardless,
the XEP-0301 protocol will be compatible with either method.

As for my XEP-0301 updates, keep tuned.  Workload and certain priorities
has increased as of late, but I will be catching up.   I know that the U.S.
access board has inquired asking about when it'll be ready.

Thanks,
Mark Rejhon


[Standards] Stamping on one's head Re: Fwd: Minutes 20121011

2012-10-13 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> 4) Any other business
> Brief discussion of XEP 71, to continue on standards list.

This made me curious and I belong to those who reads conference minutes.
And to my astonishment I found this:

[15:18:46]  I have one AOB XEP-0071 and how to come to
agreement on structured elements vs. stylistic presentation, but I
suppose I'll just post to the list about that
[15:18:50]  I started and then got distracted, as so often happens.
[15:18:57]  I wish to stamp that on the head of everyone
involved the slightest in anything related to publishing web pages
[15:19:23]  stpeter: I think at this stage the answer is "We don't
substantially change the XEP".
[15:19:34]  But yes, that discussion can happen on-list.
...
[15:19:47]  To be more blunt. I'm a solid -1 on anything adding
stuff
[15:19:55]  like rdfa

http://logs.xmpp.org/council/121011/

According to http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ ralphm is
currently a member of the XMPP Council.

Can someone please let me know if he has a veto right there?

If that is the case there would be no reason for me to spend a minute
more on finding a reasonable way to add RDFa to XEP-0071. I generally do
not participate in discussions with a predetermined outcome.

Cheers,
Andreas