[freenet-support] New Wiki is online

2005-11-23 Thread Guido Winkelmann
Hi,

As many of you might have noticed, the Freenet wiki had been offline for 
several weeks now. I turns out that the reason behind this was a site-wide 
database upgrade from mysql 3 to mysql 4 at Sourceforge, which broke many 
things.

The bad news is that, apparently, there is no way to get at the data from the 
old wiki again. It's lost.

The good news is that nextgens has set up a new (empty wiki), this time 
independent from sourceforge. The new wiki can be found at 
http://wiki.freenetproject.org and uses the same software (Wakka)
that the old one used.

While we're on the subject, I think the choice of Wiki software needs to be 
reevaluated, and soon. In my opinion, the software has too many small and 
annoying bugs and shortcomings. Considering how little I've actually used it 
the first time around (it wasn't around for very long, after all), I've been 
confronted with cryptic error messages and unpredictable and illogical 
behavior far too often. Also, I think that the markup this wiki uses is among 
the least logical and useful I've seen yet.

I'd like to ask everyone who reads me to try out the new wiki (in the sandbox) 
and post their opinions here, maybe accompanied with suggestions for 
alternatives.

My personal suggestions for alternatives are:

- MoinMoin
This is a simple and very reliable wiki engine that is used by quite a number 
of people, among them freedesktop.org. It is highly customizable and its 
popularity makes it likely that newcomers will already be familiar with its 
markup.
It doesn't use a db but instead stores its data in flat-files, which the 
freenet devs frown upon.

- MediaWiki
This is the wiki that runs wikipedia.org. It uses mysql as the backend. 
Everybody who has ever used Wikipedia will know his or her way around this 
one.

Guido

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[freenet-support] Re: Overloaded or Node Down

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
Sure, but I strongly recommend you not uninstall ZoneAlarm on a windows
box. Unless you just install linux instead. :)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Level 13 wrote:
> Then I guess it was either eMule's fault or Zone Alarm's.
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[freenet-support] Re: GrapeWine?

2005-11-23 Thread Bob
m0rtal frei  writes:

> 
> Hi there!
> Can anyone tell me what's the real difference between FreeNet and
> GrapeWine (http://www.grapevineproject.org/) ?

The general concept is similar to freenet 0.5, it even uses FEC and borrows CHKs
from it. It's in C++ and is a "from scratch" project with its own routing etc,
which sounds to me like it might use a DHT, so a better comparison might be
Entropy. It appears to still be alpha (front page : "I really believe this
software will work, and I intend to finish it one day.") There are a few other
oddities like using HTTP transports instead of just TCP.

Bob





[freenet-support] New Wiki is online

2005-11-23 Thread Guido Winkelmann
Hi,

As many of you might have noticed, the Freenet wiki had been offline for 
several weeks now. I turns out that the reason behind this was a site-wide 
database upgrade from mysql 3 to mysql 4 at Sourceforge, which broke many 
things.

The bad news is that, apparently, there is no way to get at the data from the 
old wiki again. It's lost.

The good news is that nextgens has set up a new (empty wiki), this time 
independent from sourceforge. The new wiki can be found at 
http://wiki.freenetproject.org and uses the same software (Wakka)
that the old one used.

While we're on the subject, I think the choice of Wiki software needs to be 
reevaluated, and soon. In my opinion, the software has too many small and 
annoying bugs and shortcomings. Considering how little I've actually used it 
the first time around (it wasn't around for very long, after all), I've been 
confronted with cryptic error messages and unpredictable and illogical 
behavior far too often. Also, I think that the markup this wiki uses is among 
the least logical and useful I've seen yet.

I'd like to ask everyone who reads me to try out the new wiki (in the sandbox) 
and post their opinions here, maybe accompanied with suggestions for 
alternatives.

My personal suggestions for alternatives are:

- MoinMoin
This is a simple and very reliable wiki engine that is used by quite a number 
of people, among them freedesktop.org. It is highly customizable and its 
popularity makes it likely that newcomers will already be familiar with its 
markup.
It doesn't use a db but instead stores its data in flat-files, which the 
freenet devs frown upon.

- MediaWiki
This is the wiki that runs wikipedia.org. It uses mysql as the backend. 
Everybody who has ever used Wikipedia will know his or her way around this 
one.

Guido

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Overloaded or Node Down

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
Sure, but I strongly recommend you not uninstall ZoneAlarm on a windows
box. Unless you just install linux instead. :)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:39:28PM +0100, Level 13 wrote:
> Then I guess it was either eMule's fault or Zone Alarm's.
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[freenet-support] Re: GrapeWine?

2005-11-23 Thread Bob
m0rtal frei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Hi there!
> Can anyone tell me what's the real difference between FreeNet and
> GrapeWine (http://www.grapevineproject.org/) ?

The general concept is similar to freenet 0.5, it even uses FEC and borrows CHKs
from it. It's in C++ and is a "from scratch" project with its own routing etc,
which sounds to me like it might use a DHT, so a better comparison might be
Entropy. It appears to still be alpha (front page : "I really believe this
software will work, and I intend to finish it one day.") There are a few other
oddities like using HTTP transports instead of just TCP.

Bob


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[freenet-support] Re: Can't access page

2005-11-23 Thread "hans müller"
Hi,

I tried what you suggested but with no success. Meanwhile I'm down to
maxNodeConnections=40 and maximumThreads=20 but still the same. I can't get
the page at port  and (also without trying to access that page) I find
these exceptions in the logfile:

java.lang.Exception: debug
at freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:319)
at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
at freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:637)
at freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:202)
at
freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:111)
at freenet.ConnectionJob.run(ConnectionJob.java:378)
at freenet.ConnectionJob.createConnection(ConnectionJob.java:78)
at
freenet.node.ConnectionOpener.checkpoint(ConnectionOpener.java:95)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99)
at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325)
at
freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285)
23.11.2005 08:23:46
(freenet.node.http.DistributionServlet$DistributionRequest, YThread-22,
NORMAL): RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
freenet:CHK at 7fWN2TWdHoIODoxCeD1OebVdUB8QAwI,uLq58BoeKATpIJFa8PCiJA as
freenet.exe for DistributionServlet
23.11.2005 08:23:49 (freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream, YThread-41, NORMAL):
waited more than 12ms in NIOIS.read() tcp/connection:
52489>85.76.130.228:3768,freenet.transport.tcpConnection at 
1e28fe3:freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream at 154a2e6-
closing
java.lang.Exception: debug
at freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:319)
at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
at freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:637)
at freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:202)
at
freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:111)
at freenet.ConnectionJob.run(ConnectionJob.java:378)
at freenet.ConnectionJob.createConnection(ConnectionJob.java:78)
at
freenet.node.ConnectionOpener.checkpoint(ConnectionOpener.java:95)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54)
at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)
at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207)
at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99)
at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325)
at
freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285)


> --- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Bob 
> An: support at freenetproject.org
> Betreff: [freenet-support] Re: Can't access page
> Datum: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:45:13 + (UTC)
> 
>   writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm running the freenet-client on a dedicated and therefor headless
> server
> > (Fedora Core 3, JRE 1.5). But whenever I try to access the page at port
> 
> > I get an empty page and following messages in the freenet.log:
> > 
> --snip--
> 
> I think the stuff you posted is indicative of very high load, such that
> fred
> never manages to reply to you before timing out. Try :
> 
> - Decreasing maximumThreads, e.g. to  100  \__ in freenet.conf
> - Decreasing maxNodeConnections, e.g. to 150   /
> - Increasing maximum heap size (-Xmx parameter at the end of
> start-freenet.sh),
> Java 1.5 is faster but also more memory intensive. Since this is
> presumably a
> dedicated freenet box, you probably want to be quite generous here,
> especially
> if you have a large datastore (the index is kept in RAM.) Java will not 
> actually allocate the maximum unless it needs to.
> 
> There are more advanced optimisations that can be tried here, such as the
> -server flag, which will make freenet take longer to start but in theory
> run