Re: Upgrade?

[Rob Lindauer]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Look, I've been a Netscape and SeaMonkey user from the very beginning.
I've dutifully upgraded to every version through SM 2.0.14. But given
all the problems people have had (for me, crucially with html Composer)
that I've read about on this newsgroup, I've decided not to upgrade to
SM 2.2 or 2.3.

Yes, I know that I'm taking a security risk. But I also feel about SM
2.0.14 "it's not broke so why fix it". I know this is totally forlorn;
but I do wish that the powers that be would come up with SM 2.0.15 with
just the security fixes. Since that isn't ever going to happen (and I'll
bet I'm not the only person by a long shot in SM-land who thinks this
way), I'm sure I'll eventually have to reconsider my dedication to
SeaMonkey itself. Thank you for your time reading this.



I guess it's up to the beholder to judge well SM 2.1 / 2.2 / 2.3 work.
I've had no trouble with them (except for the link properties problem in 
Composer, for which there's a workaround and which is apparently to be 
fixed), but of course YMMV, and what's important to you is up to you.


If you abandon SM, you may find the work effort to move is greater than 
that to workaround SM problems.  Again YMMV.


I haven't tried KompoZer recently.  I tried BlueGriffon, which I 
understand to be a from-the-ground-up reimplementation, but I found 
BlueGriffon to make some "elementary" some things way too difficult, 
e.g., changing fonts or font sizes (Having to define a CSS style sheet 
and element ID to change a font seems grossly excessive to me - but I'd 
be happy for correction if I misunderstand the BG function).


RL



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Re: Upgrade?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

> ... (for me, crucially with html Composer)

Have you ever looked at the fork of Composer, called KompoZer ?
Supposedly newer code. And separate, not dependent on the suite.

http://kompozer.net/

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Upgrade?

[Ken Rudolph]

Look, I've been a Netscape and SeaMonkey user from the very beginning. 
I've dutifully upgraded to every version through SM 2.0.14.  But given 
all the problems people have had (for me, crucially with html Composer) 
that I've read about on this newsgroup, I've decided not to upgrade to 
SM 2.2 or 2.3.


Yes, I know that I'm taking a security risk.  But I also feel about SM 
2.0.14 "it's not broke so why fix it".  I know this is totally forlorn; 
but I do wish that the powers that be would come up with SM 2.0.15 with 
just the security fixes.  Since that isn't ever going to happen (and 
I'll bet I'm not the only person by a long shot in SM-land who thinks 
this way), I'm sure I'll eventually have to reconsider my dedication to 
SeaMonkey itself. Thank you for your time reading this.


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Re: 2.3 Password manager won't find a password

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:17:21 -0700 (PDT), /Jay O'Brien/:




Where is that file on my computer? I don't see it or a reference to it
anywhere.


It is packaged in the "omni.jar" (which is a ZIP archive) file in 
your SeaMonkey program directory.


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Re: 2.3 Password manager won't find a password

[Jay O'Brien]

On Aug 20, 1:24 am, Herrmann Hofer
 wrote:
> Jay O'Brien wrote:
> > I want to be able, as I am
> > now, to search for a password to see where else I have used a
> > particular password. It is extremely simple in 2.0.14 and doesn't
> > require any extra plugins.
>
> You've got several choices:
> I would recommend
> .
> But you could also go to
> , but this might
> disappear in future releases.
>
> Regards!

Herrmann,

Your suggestion of 
is perfect. What can I do to try to keep it in future releases? It
provides the exact display I am familiar with and works perfectly for
me.

Where is that file on my computer? I don't see it or a reference to it
anywhere.

Jay O'Brien
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Re: Email messages delete slow in 2.3

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I was astonished to read Justin's statement that compacting folders
could take as long as an hour. In my experience, it's never taken more
than about five minutes, and it usually takes less than two. And I'm not
working with some ultrafast multi-CPU machine, but I do have folders
with thousands of messages.


In one account, a while ago, I had over 40k mails (many due to 
innordinate spam, and never really caring to actually filter it). Lets 
just say, that I had deleted a good number of spam (or moved it in some 
cases, if I found it humorous in the first place), as well as being 
subscribed to many mailing lists, that I also had filters set to move to 
different folders.


Lets just say that my compacting took about 49 minutes. It also wasn't 
the fastest HD/CPU at the time, but that was an extreme case.


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Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice

[Larry]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry wrote:

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Larry a écrit :

Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade
notice to
any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife
has received all of them.



I had the same thing happen to me. When I checked the upgrade notice
section of the Preferences, I noticed that for some reason, the SM
upgrade box was unchecked, whereas it previously was and I didn't change
it.

I don't know when that happened, but it might be something you'd want to
look into.

S.

Hmmm . . . Excellent suggestion. So, I checked, and of course it was not
checked. I hadn't looked at it, as it was "always" checked over the
years. We'll see if that changes things.

Now feeling a bit stupid, as I usually check preferences before asking
questions. Well, obviously not this time.

Thanks for the suggestion.


Please let us know, within the next few days if this got you upgraded.
If not I have thoughts on how to look into the update server side of
things to check on things. (among other things) But that is more work
anyway :-)

O.K., now getting the "upgrade to 2.2" notices. Question: Do I need to 
go to 2.2 (from 2.0.14), then 2.3, in two steps, or can I go directly to 
2.3? (Assuming manually selecting the upgrade, not an automatic process.)

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Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Larry wrote:

O.K., now getting the "upgrade to 2.2" notices. Question: Do I need to
go to 2.2 (from 2.0.14), then 2.3, in two steps, or can I go directly to
2.3? (Assuming manually selecting the upgrade, not an automatic process.)


If you accept the in-dialog upgrade from SeaMonkey, "for now" you do 
need to go to 2.2. (This won't always be the case though, I just don't 
have the new ->2.3 upgrade ready yet)


If you go to our website and download/install 2.3 you should be just 
fine, and don't need to do 2.2's upgrade first.


The choice is up to you.

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Refreshing SM windows after keyboard unlock

[Rickles]

OS: WinXP Pro SP3 with updates
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110813 Firefox/6.0 
SeaMonkey/2.3


Long-time user of SM products to replace 'the other guys' stuff.

Upgraded from SM2.0.14 to 2.3 couple of days ago.  Since then, wife has 
complained about something I've just verified and found reproduceable: 
If a prevously active SM window doesn't have focus when the Win screen 
saver unloads so you can see the desktop, the SM window is effectively 
blank.  Just very few random components visible.  If you pass your mouse 
icon over the empty areas, the expected icons/windowpane elements 
reappear.  If you go to the top of the window and click, all elements 
reappear and everything works.


At first I thought it was down to the screen saver options, but now I 
can reproduce it at will:


Leave SM browser or mailnews with focus; Lock the keyboard.  Unlock the 
keyboard and everything is fine.


Now click on the desktop and then lock the keyboard.  Unlock the 
keyboard and the SM window which did have focus but lost it when you 
clicked the desktop, isn't re-drawn, at least not immediately.  It makes 
no difference how long you let the PC sit between lock-unlock actions, 
behavior the same.


System performance monitoring show no apps trying to hog resources and 
so load the system down.  The upgrade to SMv2.3 is the only software
to be installed in a long time, and it's only since that install that 
this has manifested.


Not a show-stopper, but definitely an annoyance.
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Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice

[Larry]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Larry wrote:

O.K., now getting the "upgrade to 2.2" notices. Question: Do I need to
go to 2.2 (from 2.0.14), then 2.3, in two steps, or can I go directly to
2.3? (Assuming manually selecting the upgrade, not an automatic process.)


If you accept the in-dialog upgrade from SeaMonkey, "for now" you do
need to go to 2.2. (This won't always be the case though, I just don't
have the new ->2.3 upgrade ready yet)

If you go to our website and download/install 2.3 you should be just
fine, and don't need to do 2.2's upgrade first.

The choice is up to you.


Thank you. Exactly what I needed to know.

What a great news group!
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Seamonkey 2.3 & Ebay

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Has anyone successfully created an Ebay listing using
Seamonkey 2.3 under Windows/XP ?  I had already removed
the Flash plugin to overcome the stalling problem
reported earlier, but was unable to use the Basic
dialogue box to upload images as it kept telling
me I had no images selected.  I then re-installed
the Flash plugin to try the standard uploader, but
this now stalls after telling me that it has
successfully uploaded four images.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Tab group behavior a little off?

[Arnie Goetchius]

Rickles wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Rickles wrote:

==snipped==
>>
>> I'm sticking with 2.0.14 until this is fixed so that clicking Home will
>> 'Replace existing tabs' with the Home Group of tabs and not just add the
>> tabs as is now the case.
> Glad to see it's not a fault in my profile or add-on clash issue, but
> it's been 4-1/2 years on the go without resolution or even a bit more
> investigation??  Once I get signed up to BugZilla I'll vote and add my
> confirmation/description.  Maybe it'll help.

You can follow the bug here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=616601

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Cookies deleted ?

[Anne]

Since installing SeaMonkey 2.3, all my cookies have apparently been
deleted - I keep having to log in again which is frustrating,
especially when  I don't remember passwords.
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Re: Screen showing add-ons

[Jens Hatlak]

Ken wrote:

Hi guys. Have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7.

Does a screen listing add-ons, etc., really have to open every time I
turn on SM?


Normally the Add-ons Manager should only appear when a new add-on has 
been installed (for 2.0, which you are using; does not apply to later 
versions). This is independent of whether you installed it yourself or 
an add-on update was found and installed automatically, though.


If the Add-ons Manager window really appears every time you start SM, 
that's either a bug in 2.0 (which then won't be fixed since as I said 
the behavior changed after 2.0) or due to some add-on you have installed.


HTH

Jens

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Re: 2.3 Password manager won't find a password

[Herrmann Hofer]

Jay O'Brien wrote:

I want to be able, as I am
now, to search for a password to see where else I have used a
particular password. It is extremely simple in 2.0.14 and doesn't
require any extra plugins.


You've got several choices:
I would recommend 
.
But you could also go to 
, but this might 
disappear in future releases.


Regards!
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