Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant

[John Donahue]

Alum is not the same as aluminum

John D.

Greg and April wrote:

>IIRC, aluminum soaps will thicken fuels, and that was a early way to make
>napalm.
>
>I'm not saying that alum would do this, but, it should be something to keep
>in mind, as, soap is a byproduct of biofuel production.
>
>You would not want a tank full of a flammable sticky gel that does not flow.
>
>Greg H.
>
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>- Original Message - 
>From: "Doug Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:06
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant
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>  
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>>Hi Wes:
>>
>>Thanks for the information.  I was wondering if you have determined if
>>adding alum has any impact on processing the WVO into BD.  My weak, old,
>>
>>
>and
>  
>
>>somewhat suspect knowledge of chemistry tells me that alum will
>>
>>
>dramatically
>  
>
>>alter the pH of unbuffered solutions and that some metals (not sure about
>>aluminium) will hasten oxidization rates in vegetable oils, shortening
>>
>>
>their
>  
>
>>shelf-life.  I don't know enough to figure out for myself if there would
>>
>>
>be
>  
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>>an impact on processing.  Any ideas?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Doug Turner
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "Wes Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 AM
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Alum as coagulant
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>>>After a few months of experimenting with Alum  (1 liter test batches) I
>>>  
>>>
>>have
>>
>>
>>>concluded that Alum is effective to congeal water and most of the black
>>>sludge in used cooking oil.
>>>By adding about 1 teaspoon of alum to a liter of dirty oil, stirring and
>>>leaving to settle for a day or two, there is an obvious clarity to the
>>>  
>>>
>oil
>  
>
>>>and a layer of sediment at the bottom of the container.
>>>To make this process even more attractive, by adding more oil after
>>>  
>>>
>>pouring
>>
>>
>>>the clarified oil off the top, the alum seems to be able to clarify the
>>>  
>>>
>>next
>>
>>
>>>couple of batches without adding more alum.
>>>Adding powdered bentonite seems to help, although I have not tried to
>>>separate the effects of each.  I would be interested to hear the
>>>  
>>>
>>experiences
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>>
>>>of others.
>>>Wes
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Re: [Biofuel] turbocharged vs supercharged diesels

[John Donahue]

Zeke Yewdall wrote:

>>to make the diesel even better... turbo the hell out of it but do not
>>
>>
>put a supercharger on it.
>
>This was in another thread going off another direction.  But my
>question is, why not supercharge a diesel engine.  There must be some
>reason, because you don't seem them too often (we have a supercharged
>2 cycle 2 cylinder direction injection diesel engine in a 1953
>bulldozer, but aside from that I haven't seen one).  Is it just that
>it is higher efficiency to use the heat of exhaust gases that would be
>wasted anyway, vs taking HP off the crankshaft to run a compressor? 
>But there is a big advantage in materials to a supercharger in that it
>doesn't have to withstand the heat of the exhaust and go through
>cooldown after working hard to avoid seizing the bearings, and I would
>think engine manufacturers would sieze on any cheaper way to get more
>power out of a diesel (since everyone in the US thinks they are
>slow...).
>
>I have no problem with turbodiesels, just wondering why that design
>won out over supercharging.
>  
>

On a two stroke Detroit Diesel engine the supercharger is referred to as
a scavenge pump
or blower.   Detroit Diesels being two stroke, simply can't run
without one.
The blower is used to blow out the exhaust and blow in a fresh air
charge all during the same stroke.
Its not even using a fraction as much hp as it does on  a  dragster
fueler engine.
Detroit Diesels use turbos to make more hp just as the other diesels do.

By the way Detroit Diesels were/are used in more, different types of
vehicles & machinery
and came in more, different configurations than any other diesel engine
in the world, and
no one can dispute that...

John Donahue

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Re: [Biofuel] Ch 7 10PM News out of Boise

[John Donahue]

Its much easier to just install 6" taller tires on the rear axel, that
way you will be going down hill all the time.

You'll get like 800mpg that way

Jeromie Reeves wrote:

>My wife came home from work today talking about Channel 7 news out of 
>Boise. It seams
>they had a segment with a person who installed a WVO processor in there 
>pick-up (at a
>cost of 3000$ USD) and got 300 MPG. They still needed to start the 
>vehicle on dino. Can
>anyone shed some light on this as a Google search came back with less 
>then nothing. I find it
>very hard to believe this is true (tho that never stopped the news before).
>
>Jeromie
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Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

[John Donahue]

This article is posted above



Bede wrote:

>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10345772
>
> A German has angered animal rights groups by inventing an organic fuel
>containing run-over cat remains.
>
>Inventor Christian Koch, 55, of Saxony, told the Bild newspaper he had gone
>"170,000km without a problem" in his car on the biofuel.
>
>A 50-litre tank used about 20 cats and cost a fifth of usual diesel to
>produce, he said.
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[Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

[John Donahue]

I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to
make fuel from common waste materials.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/

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[biofuel] Interesting news about crude reserves

[John Donahue]

Hi: I am a lurker in this group,  mostly just reading what others have 
to say.

I ran across this yesterday
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38645

Regarding the source of petroleum & reserves.



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Re: [biofuel] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.

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Please take note:  Dude most of these virus warning 
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Remember email headers are easy to spoof, you might even get a message 
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Re: [biofuel] Notify about your e-mail account utilization.

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I run Gentoo linux and also am not bothered much by these 
windows viruses.

Whenever I get a virus sent to me I save it to a special folder & open 
it in a hex editor to see what I can see.

Why on earth would a windows user open a *.pif, *.bat, *.exe, *.zip, etc 
attachment that was emailed to them?

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