[Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil
Finding a good use for used engine oil, has been on my mind for a while, I came across this revolting (sorry) bit of info that someone posted on ebay as he was selling his Mercedes. He had apparently fueled it occasionally with filtered waste motoroil, which he had obtained free, or so he claimed, from service stations.The poor thing wouldn't go faster than 60 mph when fed this gourmet fuel I've been part of our forum now for a while, and surprisingly the subject hasn't come up so I've checked around, and there is an interesting piece of machinery www.clarustechnologies.com/manufacturing_services/oilcat/index.html this item apparently filters wasteoil and mixes it a preset low percentage in with the fuel, supposedly with no ill effects. Seems like a good idea to me except for the price of course, any comments or ideas.(Ihope the link works) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil
Hello everyone! Finding a good use for used engine oil, has been on my mind for a while, I came across this revolting (sorry) bit of info that someone posted on ebay as he was selling his Mercedes. I know that people put 1 quart per tank into their truck as a means of disposing of their used engine oil ;) -- Patrick Campbell ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil
No, no,no. First of all: Engine oil and especially used engine oil is not formulated to combust in an ordinary diesel engine. Secondly: Engine oil contains lots of additives to improve its properties, but these are there to help the oil lubricate. Some of these additives contain metals which are dangerous both from environmental and health point of view and not in the least to the engine itself. Third: A good base oil consists from long hydrocarbon chains, which are not easily combusted. These chains may leave deposits inside the engine. These deposits may be harmful to the function of the engine. The best way of dealing with used engine oil, is to burn it in a burner for high viscosity oils, and then handle the waste ashes in safe way , or just recycle the oil by cleansing it. Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: stephan torak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stephan torak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil Hello everyone! Finding a good use for used engine oil, has been on my mind for a while, I came across this revolting (sorry) bit of info that someone posted on ebay as he was selling his Mercedes. He had apparently fueled it occasionally with filtered waste motoroil, which he had obtained free, or so he claimed, from service stations.The poor thing wouldn't go faster than 60 mph when fed this gourmet fuel I've been part of our forum now for a while, and surprisingly the subject hasn't come up so I've checked around, and there is an interesting piece of machinery www.clarustechnologies.com/manufacturing_services/oilcat/index.html this item apparently filters wasteoil and mixes it a preset low percentage in with the fuel, supposedly with no ill effects. Seems like a good idea to me except for the price of course, any comments or ideas.(Ihope the link works) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil
I take all my used oil, be it engine, or transmission oil to our local dump, now renamed recycling centre lol, well it's a step in the right direction I guess. They have a large tank you just pour it in. It's then reprocessed to be used again - a far better more efficient environmental approach to what is a finite resource, better I think than burning it. Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stephan torak Sent: 15 April 2005 09:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stephan torak Subject: [Biofuel] biofuel, waste engine oil Hello everyone! Finding a good use for used engine oil, has been on my mind for a while, I came across this revolting (sorry) bit of info that someone posted on ebay as he was selling his Mercedes. He had apparently fueled it occasionally with filtered waste motoroil, which he had obtained free, or so he claimed, from service stations.The poor thing wouldn't go faster than 60 mph when fed this gourmet fuel I've been part of our forum now for a while, and surprisingly the subject hasn't come up so I've checked around, and there is an interesting piece of machinery www.clarustechnologies.com/manufacturing_services/oilcat/index.html this item apparently filters wasteoil and mixes it a preset low percentage in with the fuel, supposedly with no ill effects. Seems like a good idea to me except for the price of course, any comments or ideas.(Ihope the link works) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[biofuel] Waste engine oil
Jon, I am aware of a local transport company which undertakes its own (and external) vehicle servicing. The company filters the used engine oil, blends it with diesel and uses the blend in its fleet vehicles (with resultant economies in its diesel consumption). Unfortunately I have no more detail of the process. Allison -Original Message- From: J Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:25 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Waste engine oil Hi everyone, I have been reading about bio diesel on the web over the past few months and have joined this group to learn more. I am in business as a mechanic who is thinking of making and using Bio-Diesel for my work and own domestic vehicles. I have a particular question that is bugging me. I have checked the archives, searched for information and scratched my head about it.. As a mechanic, my chemistry knowledge is next to zero.. so forgive me if I am missing a point or the answer has been posted before. so here goes my question/questions As a mechanic, I accumulate gallons of waste engine oil from servicing customers cars. At the moment I pay a company to take this oil away to be recycled... can the bio-diesel process be used to convert this into diesel? or another process? or can anyone think of good uses for it rather than paying to have it removed? many thanks Jon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Waste engine oil
I have heard that there are companies who can recycle this oil for use as more engine lubricating oil. It is not suitable as a fuel due to the harmful (when burnt) additives. Some years ago a neighbour begged me for my can of used oil after I had serviced my car. I later noticed that he had 'creosoted' the garden fence with it! Hmm... look out pussy cat :-) Donaldiesel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Waste engine oil
Allison Yeah - this works, but the emissions are bad bad. Please dont be tempted. Lubricating oil is for lubricating. There are many additives in it designed to improve its job of lubricating. These are harmful when released into the atmosphere by burning. Regards Donaldiesel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Waste engine oil
It's possible that one could filter the waste motor oil with fine enough filtration - 2 microns or less - to get rid of all the additives. (And, presumably, the funky-when-burned combustion and friction byproducts.) I've heard that one danger associated with using extra-fine filtration on engine oil is that all or most of the beneficial additives are larger than 2 microns, so they'd get filtered out. Which would be a good thing in this case. But I'd consult with a lubrication engineer, or the tech support line at a major motor oil company. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allison Yeah - this works, but the emissions are bad bad. Please dont be tempted. Lubricating oil is for lubricating. There are many additives in it designed to improve its job of lubricating. These are harmful when released into the atmosphere by burning. Regards Donaldiesel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Waste engine oil filter machine
This is my first post even tho I have been recieving for many months, as I have read of the varous efforts to filter the Bio diesel, my thoughts keep going back to a friend of my Dads, who had a machine that was built in the 1880s by a rail road company, Any way this machine was a oil reclaimer, And the basis of how it worked was, the oil (used motor oil) was put in to the vessel, (looked like an old coal furnace) probly held 100 to 200 gallons of oil, the oil was heated to about 350 F for a period of time, and then a valve was shut to stop the venting after the heat was removed, and another valve was opened up and ran the oil to the filtering part of the unit, which consited of a few layers of brown wraping paper (simular to what a brown paper grocery sack is made of) layed over some type of screen grate, a layer of fullers earth (which to my under standing is bentinite clay) and air presure (aprox 100 psi) was added to force the hot oil through the clay/paper filter. (the one time I saw it, the fuller earth was about 1 thick), (he said diesel oil was very hard to remove the carbon out of or to make it look clear, gas engine oil was fairly easy to clean) now he resold the oil to engine rebuilders in the 1960's through the 1970's, as they wanted a none detergent oil to break in the motors, he said that he had the reclaimed oil sent in and tested and said it met virgin oil requirments at the time, (He gave me the impresion that the heating and the filtering would remove many of the oil additives, but rember there were a lot less additives 25 to 40 years ago) My next point I know of a few trucking companies that would dump there used oil in to there diesel tanks and extend the fule or dispose of the used oil by using it as fule, but my thought has all way been if cleaned/reclamed motor oil was added to diesiel in small percentages, that there would be few if any problems and or if you do like the bio fule people do start and stop on regular diesel, Just my thoughts [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Waste engine oil
Hi everyone, I have been reading about bio diesel on the web over the past few months and have joined this group to learn more. I am in business as a mechanic who is thinking of making and using Bio-Diesel for my work and own domestic vehicles. I have a particular question that is bugging me. I have checked the archives, searched for information and scratched my head about it.. As a mechanic, my chemistry knowledge is next to zero.. so forgive me if I am missing a point or the answer has been posted before. so here goes my question/questions As a mechanic, I accumulate gallons of waste engine oil from servicing customers cars. At the moment I pay a company to take this oil away to be recycled... can the bio-diesel process be used to convert this into diesel? or another process? or can anyone think of good uses for it rather than paying to have it removed? many thanks Jon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Waste engine oil
You could buy a shop heater designed to burn on waste motor oil. Not sure about whether you could run a diesel engine on it, but an excellent question. (Sadly, I think the answer is no, or I would've heard about folks driving on it otherwise.) Craig J Mitchell wrote: Hi everyone, I have been reading about bio diesel on the web over the past few months and have joined this group to learn more. I am in business as a mechanic who is thinking of making and using Bio-Diesel for my work and own domestic vehicles. I have a particular question that is bugging me. I have checked the archives, searched for information and scratched my head about it.. As a mechanic, my chemistry knowledge is next to zero.. so forgive me if I am missing a point or the answer has been posted before. so here goes my question/questions As a mechanic, I accumulate gallons of waste engine oil from servicing customers cars. At the moment I pay a company to take this oil away to be recycled... can the bio-diesel process be used to convert this into diesel? or another process? or can anyone think of good uses for it rather than paying to have it removed? many thanks Jon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
