Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-06 Thread Larry Foran

Kim,
  I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
most drivers.  I commute 30 miles to and from work each day.  I see
people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
while driving.  Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
into their driving time.
  Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care.  I can
see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
before people understand the gravity of their actions.

Larry

On 5/6/05, Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings Friends,
> 
> I find myself in need of doing a little preaching today.  Sorry, but for
> me, this is the best way I can deal with the horror of last night.
> 
> Last night a young women of 21 or so was driving down the highway talking
> on her cell phone and definitely driving with no care and attention to what
> she was doing.  I guess she thought that by staying mostly on the shoulder,
> it was safe to drive and talk.  Then she dropped her cell phone and reached
> for it.  A man, barely 10 years her senior who was riding his bicycle, died
> because of her actions.  Her life will never be the same, either.
> 
> As for me, I can not work to erase the memory of what I saw until he has
> had his day in court.
> 
> Please, turn your cell phones off while driving.  It was not just that she
> dropped that cell phone.  She did not see the cyclist, because she was
> distracted by her conversation.  He was plainly visible long before he was
> hit, I know, I watched the accident about to happen and it did.
> 
> Bright Blessings,
> Kim
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RE: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-06 Thread Tim Ferguson

Hello Kim, Larry and All,

I remember Keith posting not too long ago a mentioning about the people riding 
the scooters around where he lives in Japan. And that
other motorist were cognizant of their existence on the road and did not try to 
run them over. I live only three miles from where I
work and would love to drive a scooter but the way people drive in America, 
with total disregard for others, I don't think I would
live very long doing so.
Nine months ago one of my daughters best friends was killed in a car accident 
when she dropped her cell phone and bent over to pick
it up. When she raised up with it she hit a Dump Truck head on and instantly 
killing her. The truck driver was ok Physically but now
has a haunting memory of this 18 year old girl dying in front of him.
It's a shame on both occasion. Saving fuel and saving lives is hard to do with 
so much selfishness.

Best wishes,
Tim

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Kim,
  I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
most drivers.  I commute 30 miles to and from work each day.  I see
people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
while driving.  Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
into their driving time.
  Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care.  I can
see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
before people understand the gravity of their actions.

Larry

On 5/6/05, Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings Friends,
>
> I find myself in need of doing a little preaching today.  Sorry, but for
> me, this is the best way I can deal with the horror of last night.
>
> Last night a young women of 21 or so was driving down the highway talking
> on her cell phone and definitely driving with no care and attention to what
> she was doing.  I guess she thought that by staying mostly on the shoulder,
> it was safe to drive and talk.  Then she dropped her cell phone and reached
> for it.  A man, barely 10 years her senior who was riding his bicycle, died
> because of her actions.  Her life will never be the same, either.
>
> As for me, I can not work to erase the memory of what I saw until he has
> had his day in court.
>
> Please, turn your cell phones off while driving.  It was not just that she
> dropped that cell phone.  She did not see the cyclist, because she was
> distracted by her conversation.  He was plainly visible long before he was
> hit, I know, I watched the accident about to happen and it did.
>
> Bright Blessings,
> Kim

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RE: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-07 Thread ELVIN MIDDLETON




From: Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:36:14 -0500

Greetings Friends,

I find myself in need of doing a little preaching today.  Sorry, but for 
me, this is the best way I can deal with the horror of last night.


Last night a young women of 21 or so was driving down the highway talking 
on her cell phone and definitely driving with no care and attention to what 
she was doing.  I guess she thought that by staying mostly on the shoulder, 
it was safe to drive and talk.  Then she dropped her cell phone and reached 
for it.  A man, barely 10 years her senior who was riding his bicycle, died 
because of her actions.  Her life will never be the same, either.


As for me, I can not work to erase the memory of what I saw until he has 
had his day in court.


Please, turn your cell phones off while driving.  It was not just that she 
dropped that cell phone.  She did not see the cyclist, because she was 
distracted by her conversation.  He was plainly visible long before he was 
hit, I know, I watched the accident about to happen and it did.


Bright Blessings,
Kim

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Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-07 Thread Michael Redler

Well said, Larry.
 
Kim, I'm sorry that you are suffering from this experience. The events in 
people's lives, both good and bad, are felt by the people around them. Like a 
drop of water into a pool, everyone is effected and the waves never stop, they 
just get smaller with time and distance.
 
Mike

Larry Foran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kim,
I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
most drivers. I commute 30 miles to and from work each day. I see
people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
while driving. Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
into their driving time.
Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care. I can
see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
before people understand the gravity of their actions.

Larry

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Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-07 Thread Dean Thomas


free kit) while driving for this very reason, too many accidents happen 
this way. The most stupid ones are people sending an S.M.S. while driving.
And yet on a regular basis I will see a police officer driving along 
with a phone up to his/her ear.
How can people respect the law when it is quite obvious that the 
enforcers don't.


Dean.


Well said, Larry.

Kim, I'm sorry that you are suffering from this experience. The events in 
people's lives, both good and bad, are felt by the people around them. Like a 
drop of water into a pool, everyone is effected and the waves never stop, they 
just get smaller with time and distance.

Mike

Larry Foran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kim,
I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
most drivers. I commute 30 miles to and from work each day. I see
people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
while driving. Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
into their driving time.
Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care. I can
see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
before people understand the gravity of their actions.

Larry
 



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Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-07 Thread Brian Thomas


few years ago.  About 80% were caused by distractions outside the car 
(billboards, that woman walking down the street, etc.).  Of the 20% caused 
by distractions inside the car, the top two were eating in the car and 
adjusting the car stereo.  Cell phones were responsible for just over 10% 
the number of accidents caused by eating while driving.  If we're enacting 
laws, lets start with McDonald's drive-thrus and car stereos.


Brian
BRIAN THOMAS
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:22 AM
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Kim,
 I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
most drivers.  I commute 30 miles to and from work each day.  I see
people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
while driving.  Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
into their driving time.
 Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care.  I can
see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
before people understand the gravity of their actions.

Larry

On 5/6/05, Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greetings Friends,

I find myself in need of doing a little preaching today.  Sorry, but for
me, this is the best way I can deal with the horror of last night.

Last night a young women of 21 or so was driving down the highway talking
on her cell phone and definitely driving with no care and attention to 
what
she was doing.  I guess she thought that by staying mostly on the 
shoulder,
it was safe to drive and talk.  Then she dropped her cell phone and 
reached
for it.  A man, barely 10 years her senior who was riding his bicycle, 
died

because of her actions.  Her life will never be the same, either.

As for me, I can not work to erase the memory of what I saw until he has
had his day in court.

Please, turn your cell phones off while driving.  It was not just that she
dropped that cell phone.  She did not see the cyclist, because she was
distracted by her conversation.  He was plainly visible long before he was
hit, I know, I watched the accident about to happen and it did.

Bright Blessings,
Kim

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Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety

2005-05-07 Thread steve

It is indeed important to maintain perspective.  Personally, I don't like
to see people drive and talk on the phone at the same time -- it's a
visible sign of a disregard for their own safety and the safety of others
on the road.  But if you review the statistics and studies on the NHTSA
(National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) website, it's plain to
see that talking on a cell phone isn't the holy grail of driving abuse
that some make it out to be.  For example, the NHTSA estimates that driver
distraction from ALL sources contributes to 25 percent of all
police-reported traffic crashes.  They do say that cell phone usage can
present a significant cognitive distraction, but the study also admits
that cell phone usage may be no more of a distraction than talking to
someone else in the vehicle.  Furthermore, in a controlled study,
comparing eating and operating a cell phone to continuously operating a CD
player, it was found that the CD player operation was more distracting
than the other activities.  In a test track study conducted by NHTSA, the
results showed that manual dialing was about as distracting as
grooming/eating, but less distracting than reading or changing CDs.

This leads me to wonder, despite my great dislike for drivers who yap on
the phone while driving, if cell phone usage isn't the real culprit --
it's the drivers themselves.  Some people are prone to distraction, and if
it wasn't a cell phone they might be daydreaming, or flipping the radio
around, or chatting with someone else in the car.  What we might have to
consider is that people may be at fault, not cell phones, and while
banning cell phone usage while driving may placate the public screaming
for action, it may also be that those same people who would distract
themselves using a cell phone may find something else to take its place.

-Steve


> Actually, the DOT did a study of accidents caused by distracted drivers a
> few years ago.  About 80% were caused by distractions outside the car
> (billboards, that woman walking down the street, etc.).  Of the 20% caused
> by distractions inside the car, the top two were eating in the car and
> adjusting the car stereo.  Cell phones were responsible for just over 10%
> the number of accidents caused by eating while driving.  If we're enacting
> laws, lets start with McDonald's drive-thrus and car stereos.
>
> Brian
> BRIAN THOMAS
> - Original Message -
> From: "Larry Foran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cell phones and safety
>
>
> Kim,
>   I continue to be amazed by the disregard for others demonstrated by
> most drivers.  I commute 30 miles to and from work each day.  I see
> people reading books, talking on phones, and/or putting on makeup
> while driving.  Our society seems to think that multi-taksing extends
> into their driving time.
>   Talking on the phone take more attention than having a conversation
> with another passenger, but people still do not seem to care.  I can
> see that laws similar to drunk driving laws will need to be enacted
> before people understand the gravity of their actions.
>
> Larry
>
> On 5/6/05, Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Greetings Friends,
>>
>> I find myself in need of doing a little preaching today.  Sorry, but for
>> me, this is the best way I can deal with the horror of last night.
>>
>> Last night a young women of 21 or so was driving down the highway
>> talking
>> on her cell phone and definitely driving with no care and attention to
>> what
>> she was doing.  I guess she thought that by staying mostly on the
>> shoulder,
>> it was safe to drive and talk.  Then she dropped her cell phone and
>> reached
>> for it.  A man, barely 10 years her senior who was riding his bicycle,
>> died
>> because of her actions.  Her life will never be the same, either.
>>
>> As for me, I can not work to erase the memory of what I saw until he has
>> had his day in court.
>>
>> Please, turn your cell phones off while driving.  It was not just that
>> she
>> dropped that cell phone.  She did not see the cyclist, because she was
>> distracted by her conversation.  He was plainly visible long before he
>> was
>> hit, I know, I watched the accident about to happen and it did.
>>
>> Bright Blessings,
>> Kim
>>
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