Re: Thunderbird problem
Hello Larry Thank you for your reply. I found Thunderbird became more and more difficult to use after version 60.4.0 and so, I eventually went back to that version. It works well with my 64 bit laptop apart from the editing problems I mentioned previously. I agree WE is becoming less and less useful but I often find We works with somethings that other screen readers cannot cope with. I am intending to keep it on my machines so long as it is useful. Best wishes Mike - G0VMG Mike Gurney On 30/10/2022 16:50, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Mike, Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as time goes on. As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have to select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end combo ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all of this at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not chosen to upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. As it is, I have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any significant use of Thunderbird. Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or html file, but what a PITA. Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp scripts, and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not like the reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I will have to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM Eloquence with NVDA, and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of same with either screen reader for some reason. Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite sure that is just about all it is worth . Have a great day, Larry On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote: Hello Everyone Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue. For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to edit or modify the text I am writing. Writing continuously there isn't any difficulties. However, if I need to cursor up to check what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line. I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly keeps reading them. Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then copying it across. Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also becoming a problem. With thanks Mike. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Thunderbird problem
Mike, Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as time goes on. As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have to select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end combo ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all of this at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not chosen to upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. As it is, I have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any significant use of Thunderbird. Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or html file, but what a PITA. Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp scripts, and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not like the reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I will have to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM Eloquence with NVDA, and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of same with either screen reader for some reason. Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite sure that is just about all it is worth . Have a great day, Larry On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote: Hello Everyone Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue. For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to edit or modify the text I am writing. Writing continuously there isn't any difficulties. However, if I need to cursor up to check what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line. I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly keeps reading them. Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then copying it across. Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also becoming a problem. With thanks Mike. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4
Hi, Are you opening messages in tabs or windows? Also what happens if you disable apps? Press insert-7 to toggle the app status to off. Note: the 7 is on the QWERTY keyboard, not the number pad. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:24 AM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4 Members Recently up graded my win 7 home premium 64 bit machine and we from version 9.2 to 9.4 and find the following problems In Thunderbird we repeats the first line unless I set we to read nothing when opening a message. If I set it to read the first 24 lines or the entire page and hit the escape key to close the message we goes silent and upon restart I get a Thunderbird not responding note and enter closes Thunderbird.I get the same result if I set we to read nothing and do an read to end command unless I hit the control key to silence we pryer to closing the message. I do find IE 11 better with version 9.4. Please help. Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Thunderbird Problem
Hi Robert, there isn't another window open obscuring the message window? I have seen this with Eset nod32 when there is an alert. Just an idea. Joe On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:10:13 -0600 robert martin via Talk wrote: Good Morning, When typing a message in Thunderbird it appears to put a word on each line so that to read the message I have to cursor down the page. Also this seems to complicate reading to end at least sometimes. Interestingly when I look at a message that has been sent it appears to have more or less correct formatting. I suspect I've pushed some button somewhere that has created this problem. It seems to me that I've had this problem at least once before when I first started using Thunderbird but I can't remember the solution. Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer a solution Regards, Bob Martin ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joe%40vi-ability.demon.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Joe Paton ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com