Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions

[Maarten Deen]

Cartinus wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 07:44:54 Maarten Deen wrote:
>> I've searched the wiki and I have used the tag myself, but there seems to
>> be no documentation for restriction= ?
>
> 

Thanks, I knew it was somewhere, but the wiki search seems to be seriously
flawed:

does not bring up any results.

I see now it does work with the Google search, but then what's the point for
wikipedia to have its own search.

Regards,


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Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions

[Cartinus]

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 07:44:54 Maarten Deen wrote:
> I've searched the wiki and I have used the tag myself, but there seems to
> be no documentation for restriction= ?





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Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions

[Teemu Koskinen]

On Tue, 26 May 2009 08:44:54 +0300, Maarten Deen  wrote:

> I've searched the wiki and I have used the tag myself, but there seems  
> to be
> no documentation for restriction= ?
>
> How do you tag a restriction on a crossing between a major and a minor  
> road
> where the major road is only allowed to go straight on and the minor  
> road has
> no restrictions?
>
> Or in general: where the two roads do not have the same restriction.
>

Split the major road at the crossing, then add two relations. Both  
relations will have the two parts of the major road and the node at the  
crossing. Both will have restriction=only_straigh_on, and the major road's  
parts will have roles to and from.

The first relation would look like this:

type=restriction
restriction=only_straight_on

 from : major road part 1
via  : node at the crossing
to   : major road part 2


And the other would be:

type=restriction
restriction=only_straight_on

 from : major road part 2
via  : node at the crossing
to   : major road part 1

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[OSM-talk] Turn restrictions

[Maarten Deen]

I've searched the wiki and I have used the tag myself, but there seems to be
no documentation for restriction= ?

How do you tag a restriction on a crossing between a major and a minor road
where the major road is only allowed to go straight on and the minor road has
no restrictions?

Or in general: where the two roads do not have the same restriction.

Regards,
Maarten



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[OSM-talk] script to cut a big OSM map into letter or A4 size papers

[maning sambale]

Hi,

There used to be a osm pdf atlas.  Is there a script somewhere that can:

1. download mapnik tiles of a certain bounding box like a small city
at z17 or 18;
2. cut the image into printable size like an A4 or letter size paper.

Being almost road complete (except for a few private footways).  I
find walking with a plain map, pen and paper  to be the best way to
add more detail like POIs, housenumber, etc.
If I could make a rough "streetatlas", a workable target would be to
map POIs and street numbers for like 4-pages-per-week.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

[Paul Johnson]

Ivan Garcia wrote:
> Hi, could you tell me by looking at this picture [1] how to tag this in
> OSM ?
> 
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8Y0T3EnBVPw/SJcJ13KnOII/BCg/ot4X2My6CvA/s400/vietnam%2Balley.jpg
> 
> It's an alley where only people/motorbikes can go.

access=no
foot=yes
bicycle=yes (I assume bicycles are allowed)
motorcycle=yes



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[OSM-talk] Revert a changeset

[Teemu Koskinen]

Could somebody revert the node changes in changeset 1315063, someone
accidentally moved big part of Hämeentie (a major street in Helsinki).
There are over a hundred moved nodes, and they are in middle of hundreds
of unmoved nodes, so it would be hard to try to move them back by hand.

The changes to the two relations are ok, so if it's possible, keep those.

Regards,
Teemu Koskinen

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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Importing selected Tracks from Garmins Current.gpx

[Dave G]

Sorry I meant to post that to "talk"


-- Forwarded message --
From: Dave G <9gerk...@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/5/26
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Importing selected Tracks from Garmins Current.gpx
To: Mike Harris 


I had a bit of trouble getting the GPSBabel radius filter to work until I
read this post:

http://www.rediguana.co.nz/gav/tag/gpx/

The woraround is a bit long-winded but now it works fine

(I'm using Linux but GPSBabel is cross-platform)

I have a GPSBabel download script that I use on a Garmin Etrex yellow
for downloading tracks for OSM

I'm happy to share if it helps/gives you some ideas

Dave


2009/5/26 Mike Harris 

Use GPSU to break the tracks - http://www.gpsu.co.uk/
>
>
> Mike Harris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ingo Lantschner [mailto:listen2...@lantschner.name]
> Sent: 24 May 2009 21:31
> To: talk@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Importing selected Tracks from Garmins Current.gpx
>
> Hi all,
> I am using a nüvi 550 from Garmin. This device stores all tracks in one
> file
> called Current.gpx. While this file can be imported into OSM I could not
> find a way to select the traces. So within a few days you are getting more
> and more traces when uploding this file.
>
> For now I edited the XML by hand. But I wonder, if there is not a tool,
> which can be used to select the tracks from f.e. today or the last week.
> (GPSBable did not do that, it even does not work with selecting by a radius
> - at least not here)
>
> Thanks for any hints, Ingo
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[OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

[Ivan Garcia]

Hi, could you tell me by looking at this picture [1] how to tag this in OSM
?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8Y0T3EnBVPw/SJcJ13KnOII/BCg/ot4X2My6CvA/s400/vietnam%2Balley.jpg

It's an alley where only people/motorbikes can go.

Best Regards.
Ivan.
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Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM max upload changeset size

[Shaun McDonald]

On 24 May 2009, at 20:02, Sam Vekemans wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm wondering what the max size per edit session that JOSM can  
> handle is?
> Whats the standard rule? Every 10mins? Or will josm accept any size,
> it would just take longer?
> What is a happy back-end servers size, that doesnt bog it down?
>

There is a maximum of 50,000 items in each changeset. It really  
depends on the complexity  of the changeset. If it is just node and  
way changes it will be a lot quicker than large relations. It is also  
dependant on the number of other editors in your area. So if you have  
many people in the area editing at the same time, then it is much  
better to upload more often.

> Is there a max default/timeout that JOSM squaks at?
> Could JOSM check for area edits before upload starts?
>

File > Update Data, however you currently don't get changes to items  
moved out of your editing area nor items that have been deleted. There  
is talk of this changing.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-talk] Importing selected Tracks from Garmins Current.gpx

[Mike Harris]

Use GPSU to break the tracks - http://www.gpsu.co.uk/ 


Mike Harris

-Original Message-
From: Ingo Lantschner [mailto:listen2...@lantschner.name] 
Sent: 24 May 2009 21:31
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Importing selected Tracks from Garmins Current.gpx

Hi all,
I am using a nüvi 550 from Garmin. This device stores all tracks in one file
called Current.gpx. While this file can be imported into OSM I could not
find a way to select the traces. So within a few days you are getting more
and more traces when uploding this file.

For now I edited the XML by hand. But I wonder, if there is not a tool,
which can be used to select the tracks from f.e. today or the last week.
(GPSBable did not do that, it even does not work with selecting by a radius
- at least not here)

Thanks for any hints, Ingo
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap software for vehicles fleet management system

[Ivan Garcia]

Basically the application that we are trying to migrate into
OpenStreetMap/OpenSource is this one

http://www.vnskeye.com/Products.htm

Hi Marcus, how do your protocols could be integrated into OSM?

Thks.
Ivan.

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:

> On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:57:36 +0200, Ivan Garcia 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > does anybody knows of any open source software or web application that is
> > useful to be used for a vehicles fleet management system ?  (all vehicles
> > carry a GPS unit) and the maps should be based on OpenStreetMap.
> >
> > Otherwise, we are looking forward to start it from zero with the help of
> > the
> > community, and contribute to OSM all the data gathered by the fleet in
> > south
> > east Asia.
> >
> > Best Regards.
> > Ivan Garcia.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know such software in the non-commercial world. But if you
> write your own, I may help with protocolls.
>
> One of the things I'm
> writing for Traveling Salesman is a web-service to collect traffic
> information. A next step for me would then be to make a general
> protcoll that can carry much more data (like vehicle-positions,
> routes or voice-chat between multiple vehicles in a convoy).
> So we may make the protocolls between cars, servers and desktop-
> clients open and general enough so they can be supported by and
> usefully for many others here.
>
> Marcus
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap software for vehicles fleet management system

[marcus.wolschon]

On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:57:36 +0200, Ivan Garcia 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> does anybody knows of any open source software or web application that is
> useful to be used for a vehicles fleet management system ?  (all vehicles
> carry a GPS unit) and the maps should be based on OpenStreetMap.
> 
> Otherwise, we are looking forward to start it from zero with the help of
> the
> community, and contribute to OSM all the data gathered by the fleet in
> south
> east Asia.
> 
> Best Regards.
> Ivan Garcia.


Hi,

I don't know such software in the non-commercial world. But if you
write your own, I may help with protocolls.

One of the things I'm
writing for Traveling Salesman is a web-service to collect traffic
information. A next step for me would then be to make a general
protcoll that can carry much more data (like vehicle-positions,
routes or voice-chat between multiple vehicles in a convoy).
So we may make the protocolls between cars, servers and desktop-
clients open and general enough so they can be supported by and
usefully for many others here.

Marcus

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[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap software for vehicles fleet management system

[Ivan Garcia]

Hi,

does anybody knows of any open source software or web application that is
useful to be used for a vehicles fleet management system ?  (all vehicles
carry a GPS unit) and the maps should be based on OpenStreetMap.

Otherwise, we are looking forward to start it from zero with the help of the
community, and contribute to OSM all the data gathered by the fleet in south
east Asia.

Best Regards.
Ivan Garcia.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0 broken non-ASCII input on Mac OS X?

[Richard Fairhurst]

Woll Newall wrote:
> Potlatch 1.0 seems to have broken the input of non-ASCII characters 
> in tags.
>
> I'm running Potlatch inside the Safari browser on Mac OS X.
> 
> Before Potlatch 1.0 I could type in Japanese characters into the 
> tags, but now the Japanese hiragana and katakana entries in the 
> Kotoeri input menu are disabled when I'm in Potlatch (so only 
> ASCII text can be entered, even in Japanese input mode).

Entering non-ASCII text (e.g. é î å ë) works fine for me here, using Safari
4 on OS X 10.4. I think we'd have heard by now if there was a universal
problem!

Though I wouldn't know Kotoeri from Coco the clown, I've just played around
for five minutes, enabled it in System Preferences -> International, and
have managed to successfully select the Hiragana and Katakana entries from
the input menu while using Potlatch. The Kana palette then allows me to
enter characters - not the ones I'd expect, but this is probably because
I've started the browser with en-GB as the language and Flash Player tends
to be sensitive to that.

There's a new mailing list called potlatch-dev where such issues are best
discussed. :)

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

[Shaun McDonald]

On 24 May 2009, at 14:22, OJ W wrote:

> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John McKerrell  
>  wrote:
>> I thought people were sometimes using similar values to the landuse
>> tags, i.e. building=commercial building=retail ?
>
> or office, apartments, mixed_use ...
>
> currently it looks like the vast majority of buildings are just
> generic "building=yes":
>
> http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/building/
>

Personally I think it would be much nicer if every building was just  
building=yes or true. That way people will be able to some more  
interesting renderings. For example shading certain types of building  
different colours.

Shaun

> mixed with a few "building=greenhouse/half-cylindrical plastic sheet
> covred plant growning housey things"
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Re: [OSM-talk] New Proposed Feature: Tagging the age and duration of existence of features

[Lester Caine]

Peter Dörrie wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I made a proposal for tagging "the 4th dimension". Hope you like it ;)
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/4th_Dimension

I've put a note on that talk page, but I think this needs to be opened 
up a bit, since it IS quite an important area.

Should the database ONLY contain currently existing mapping information? 
That is the area that is getting a 'no' on the 4th_Dimension page 
although it is not actually WORDED in that way! (Hence my comment there 
about a poll not being appropriate - it's the wrong question?)

There are two types of history being generated as we go along, the 
history of when information is added and updated, but also now, the 
history of CHANGES to an area, which from my own point of view is MORE 
important than simply mapping the current situation. Roads and other POI 
that exist in today's map have been recorded, and the information is 
accurate. Should we then simply wipe that history because an area has 
been flattened and remodelled? Surely it is not beyond the whit of man 
to simply hide that material from those users who do not want to see it 
- deleting it just seems like an act of vandalism :(

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