Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Hi Arthur, Interesting. I have had higher zoom levels than Z19 for Brisbane locations (see my earlier comment). The tiles are still not rendering past Z19 for me today though. I've dug a little deeper and in the folder of the screenshot I've just attached you'll see that the 20_xx_xx.tags file don't have a corresponding png file. Within those .tag files is a single line of text that notes tile-info=no-tile (nothing helpful on Google - will idle in josm-dev for a while). Those tag files go right down to Z21 in my folder so hopefully the earlier MSDN link is the issue and those (refreshed?) tiles start appearing soon. The 20_ indicates the zoom level. 19_ and lower all have png files. Link: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6959/wsp4.png Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Hi Jason, I spent the first half of this year using potlatch 3 in Birmingham England and was always able to get down to Z20 Z21. I came back to Australia in September and have been stuck on Z19 for Australian mapping but still get to Z21 in England. I do a lot of houses and buildings and it is very difficult at the Z19 level as many of the house details are too close together to enable the two nodes to sit side by side. Regards - Arthur (geesona) On 06/12/13 09:59, Jason Ward wrote: Hi folks, I'm at a bit of a loss right now and wonder if any of you have experienced the same issue. For about a week on 2 different machines I have only had access to zoom level 19. I've pretty much run down every google result possible (remove tile cache, remove attribution file et al) and am still having the issue. I've even looked up the JOSM bug tracker and sat in the JOSM dev chat room before posting here. The reason I'm starting here is to check if it's a localised Bing problem or whether one of you smart people knows whether something has changed that would cause this issue. I note that other parts of the globe are not affected as I can view London at a Zoom of 20 (I think). Help! I've done a local street survey for house numbering and I'm reluctant to do any tracing until I can resolve this. Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Hi folks, I'm at a bit of a loss right now and wonder if any of you have experienced the same issue. For about a week on 2 different machines I have only had access to zoom level 19. I've pretty much run down every google result possible (remove tile cache, remove attribution file et al) and am still having the issue. I've even looked up the JOSM bug tracker and sat in the JOSM dev chat room before posting here. The reason I'm starting here is to check if it's a localised Bing problem or whether one of you smart people knows whether something has changed that would cause this issue. I note that other parts of the globe are not affected as I can view London at a Zoom of 20 (I think). Help! I've done a local street survey for house numbering and I'm reluctant to do any tracing until I can resolve this. Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Hi Jason, There seems to be two layers in Bing in South Australia. A high resolution three or four year old layer and a lower resolution layer only about twelve months old. This may be related to what you are seeing. On 6 Dec 2013, at 9:29 am, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: For about a week on 2 different machines I have only had access to zoom level 19. I've pretty much run down every google result possible (remove tile cache, remove attribution file et al) and am still having the issue. I've even looked up the JOSM bug tracker and sat in the JOSM dev chat room before posting here. The reason I'm starting here is to check if it's a localised Bing problem or whether one of you smart people knows whether something has changed that would cause this issue. I note that other parts of the globe are not affected as I can view London at a Zoom of 20 (I think). ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Hi Alex, The age is an interesting point but not what I am experiencing I think. As an example, and to your point, I accept that the Higher Resolution imagery is older than the lower resolution imagery. My house roof solar panels installed in June 2011 are there in the Low res images. When I zoom closer they are not, indicating that they are, at least in my area, at least 24 months old. The actual problem is that I can only get the Low res images (Zoom 19 in JOSM) to show in the application and tracing is not possible, for housing at least, with these map tiles (because JOSM just keeps zooming the Level 19 tiles to give a pixelated effect). I'd point out too that I have completed tracing in the not too distant past - literally just before this problem started to occur using Bing imagery See here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/248814095 as an example and while I had no idea about Bing Zoom Levels before needing to run this problem down I am confident that I would not have completed this tracing at the current Zoom 19. Extra / New Info. The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!) Something has happened recently. I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I am confuzzled. Cheers, Jason Cheers, Jason On 6 December 2013 09:54, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: Hi Jason, There seems to be two layers in Bing in South Australia. A high resolution three or four year old layer and a lower resolution layer only about twelve months old. This may be related to what you are seeing. On 6 Dec 2013, at 9:29 am, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: For about a week on 2 different machines I have only had access to zoom level 19. I've pretty much run down every google result possible (remove tile cache, remove attribution file et al) and am still having the issue. I've even looked up the JOSM bug tracker and sat in the JOSM dev chat room before posting here. The reason I'm starting here is to check if it's a localised Bing problem or whether one of you smart people knows whether something has changed that would cause this issue. I note that other parts of the globe are not affected as I can view London at a Zoom of 20 (I think). ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Jason Ward wrote: Extra / New Info. The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!) Something has happened recently. I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I am confuzzled. Not just Australia either - someone on IRC mentioned that the highest zoom Bing tiles in Essex, England had disappeared earlier today. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Ah. Okay. I'll jump on a few more IRC channels and keep an eye out then. Thanks Andy. Cheers, Jason On 6 December 2013 10:50, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Jason Ward wrote: Extra / New Info. The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!) Something has happened recently. I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I am confuzzled. Not just Australia either - someone on IRC mentioned that the highest zoom Bing tiles in Essex, England had disappeared earlier today. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Its a bit of a stretch but they could be scaling back high load services (ie. High Res map tiles) to non Bing products to ensure their 3D Maps release runs buttering smooth. http://www.bing.com/blogs/site_blogs/b/search/archive/2013/12/05/maps3d.aspx but in this day and age that'd be an extraordinary step to take (and an indicator of not being confident in your own ability to scale). Anyway. It just a guess. If enough people notice then we should ultimately arrive at a reason why. Thanks again for the heads up Andy. Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
