Re: [Talk-ca] Trans Canada Trail relation

[Adam Glauser]

Response inline.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
>Ya, just list that local trail with it's local name, as a relation but as a 
>local
> or regional route. You should see physical signs saying "Laurel Trail"  and/or
> 'Iron Horse Trail'.  Just map these 2 trails as 'routes' and if they are 
> cycle-able,
> the preference is to list it as a cycle-route, in that area of the country.  
> IMO. ...
> if the Trail is a 'Route'  then a 'route' can go on any surface type.  But 
> the actual
> gravel/paved segments should be labeled as they physically are (and physically
> named) on the ground.

Okay, that part make sense to me, and that's what I've been (slowly)
doing for the Avon Trail, as I hike/bike parts of it.
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/143047)

As for the Trans Canada Trail aspect:


>On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Richard Weait  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Adam Glauser  wrote:
>>> I was cleaning up some areas where the TCT shares its path with roads
>>> and other existing trails (here http://osm.org/go/ZXnePd73--, if you are
>>> interested).
>>>
>>> It appears that there used to be a relation, which was part of a mass
>>> deletion recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837).
>>>  Should this relation be resurrected, a new one created, or something
>>> else?
>>
>> Hey, Sam! Adam found something with our fingerprints on it!  ;-)
>>
>> Adam, the history here
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837/history
>>
>> shows that this was deleted deliberately by andrzej as the relation
>> had no members.
[...]
>>
>> Earlier in the history Sam (acrosscanadatrails) says I asked him to
>> remove his earlier work.  I don't recall the details of the
>> conversation, but I probably did.  That Adam found part of the
>> relation in Ontario.  Sam's earlier additions in that history
>> discussed trail portions in BC.
>>
>> Sam do you recall the details?  Should this relation be replaced,
>> without members or 'fixed' with members added?


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
>No 'Trans Canada Trail' relation is needed.    (until the
> copyright is fixed, see MEGA detail below).

Okay, I had some trouble following the "MEGA detail".  I understand
the bit about not really being able to tag a TCT relation as
'route=hiking' or 'route=cycling', as it is a mixed use trail, with
different uses in different parts.  I'm sure we can come up with some
way of overcoming that obstacle.

I think that the copyright to which Sam refers, and the earlier
discussion Richard mentioned are related, as seen in this thread
(http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg01053.html).
 If I follow that correctly, the .gpx traces from www.tctrail.ca are
copyrighted and should not be used to add to OSM.  However, my own
surveys should be perfectly fine, unless I'm missing something.

Given that I'm not referring to copyrighted data, and aside from the
question about how to tag the relation, is there some other problem
with highlighting the trails/roads/etc. that comprise the TCT in my
area?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Nts tile names

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi Again,

Actually, i think with my latest modifications to the CanVec data status
import chart, As long as the folder where these .osm.zip files can be found
is listed, the actual file name is irrelevant.   Especially if these zip
files are stored on different servers, as long as the link still works it
should be fine.

I think all the relevant details, are already listed in the chart.

And for the big (always pressing) question about how to deal with updates of
canvec data.  I think that it would just be a matter of local preference.

I will be able to (and planning on) creating a more smarter script that will
be able to look at the download directory and check the date  but for
now, this manual way is fine :-)   (does anyone know how todo that? (not
using ibuntu) :)

Cheers,
Sam

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Sam Vekemans
wrote:

> Thanks,
> Does anyone know how to create a little java program that can take
> details from the .xml file, and the .htm file and rename the folder
> with select details?
> I dont know how todo that in DOS (if its possable) either.
>
> Sam
>
> On 9/21/09, Brent Fraser  wrote:
> > Sam,
> >
> >Each CanVec tile has a date in its XML metadata (in the
> >  tag).  Perhaps it might be useful.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Brent Fraser
> >
> > Sam Vekemans wrote:
> >> Thanks,
> >> I even have access to it on my mobile :)
> >> 'year valid' is what we need (doesnt need to be exact).
> >>
> >> In other news, i found the pictorial representation of the country in
> >> NTS tile #'s. It'll be handy later.
> >>
> >> Great find!
> >> cheers,
> >> Sam
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/19/09, Frank Steggink  wrote:
> >>> Sam Vekemans wrote:
> 
>  On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Frank Steggink <
> stegg...@steggink.org
>  > wrote:
> 
>  Hi Sam,
> 
>  Yes, i think there is a limit to the number of rows that
>  GoogleSpreadsheet will allow.. so im not sure how to deal with
>  that yet. .. it's a work in progress :-)
> 
>  Split up per province, or per 8x4 degree sheet?
>  By the way, I noticed you've started correcting the rows I've
>  merged. I've completed them now. An in case you didn,'t know, here
>  [1] is a NRCan site where you can find all tile names. Could be
>  useful for the spreadsheet, but adding them might be a very big
>  task, or you need to export the data from Google, and import them
>  later ;) Not sure if that is possible.
> 
>  hi, can you attach the link again? I think it was missed.
> 
>  Cheers,
>  Sam
> >>> Oops, forgot to insert the actual link :)
> >>> It's here: http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/topo_metadata/topo_metadata_e.php
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Feature Request: search source key/value pairs

[Sam Vekemans]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Sam Vekemans <
> acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I don't know if its technically possible, but it would be great if
>> there was a toggle switch that could include only select source
>> key/value pairs,
>> ie.  in the BS_1250009_0_Navigational_aidRULES.txt dataset, having it
>> that it would only create an .osm file for the 'navigational light'
>> source key=
>> CODE, value=1250020
>> so then the script would run through the rules.txt file and would only
>> look at the above, CODE/value, and place "man_made=lighthouse", as the
>> only feature in the .osm file and omit the rest.   (omitting the
>> values 1250030 and 1250010)
>>
>> Sorry, I'm not sure how to submit a ticket on the redmine website yet.
>>
>
> Click the "New Issue" link at
> http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/show/geo
>
>
>>
>> If not technically possible, then maybe it's possible with an add-on
>> java .jar  program?
>>
>
> This is the idea behind the "-t" option. Make your rules.txt file only
> include the tags you want (in this case, just the navigational light), then
> run shp-to-osm with the -t option. This will only include the primitives
> that are tagged in the output OSM file(s).
>

YES, i get it :-)
Sorry, a little daft,  but it took a moment to click in.   That's simply
BRILLIANT!!!.

And for the imports list & talk-ca list.
This change will require a slight 'lengthening' of the number of Rules.txt
file in the folder, i AM prepared to handle it all myself, but if anyone
wants to help (Richard) please let me know what rules.txt file you want to
work on.  And everyone else, what features do you want to see shown as
independent .osm files?
... and the fixing process is rather easy.  It just requires the changing of
the details in the column of the CanVec Map features chart, to indicate the
new filename of the rules.txt file.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Am70fsptsPF2clAwc29KaXlGaGFwS1piUkxZWjc0ekE&hl=en


Thanks again,
Cheers,
Sam
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[Talk-ca] Feature Request: search source key/value pairs

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi,
I don't know if its technically possible, but it would be great if
there was a toggle switch that could include only select source
key/value pairs,
ie.  in the BS_1250009_0_Navigational_aidRULES.txt dataset, having it
that it would only create an .osm file for the 'navigational light'
source key=
CODE, value=1250020
so then the script would run through the rules.txt file and would only
look at the above, CODE/value, and place "man_made=lighthouse", as the
only feature in the .osm file and omit the rest.   (omitting the
values 1250030 and 1250010)

Sorry, I'm not sure how to submit a ticket on the redmine website yet.

If not technically possible, then maybe it's possible with an add-on
java .jar  program?

(note to imports talk list)  I really want to keep it as this simple
java program that can be used on the command line, and can
(apparently) be used in ibunto also, so then most everyone can be able
to modify the rules.txt file and add in their own SHP file.  ... as
apposed to creating the python or perl script where it requires that
extra technical knowledge to run.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Trans Canada Trail relation

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi Adam, Richard, talk-ca list.
cc: i...@tctrail.ca, Tim Hoskin, National Trails Coordinator for TCT,  Jane
Craig, Communications Coordinator for TCT, and Margaret Mofford, Secretary,
Trans Canada Trail

***


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Adam Glauser  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was cleaning up some areas where the TCT shares its path with roads
> and other existing trails (here http://osm.org/go/ZXnePd73--, if you are
> interested).
>
> It appears that there used to be a relation, which was part of a mass
> deletion recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837).
>  Should this relation be resurrected, a new one created, or something
else?

Hey, Sam! Adam found something with our fingerprints on it!  ;-)

Adam, the history here

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837/history

shows that this was deleted deliberately by andrzej as the relation
had no members.  The discussion andrzej referenced in his delete
comment (How very polite, by the way!) asked about the validity of
relations or ways with no members as a data quality / validity
question.  So I think andrzej deletion should stand for now.

Earlier in the history Sam (acrosscanadatrails) says I asked him to
remove his earlier work.  I don't recall the details of the
conversation, but I probably did.  That Adam found part of the
relation in Ontario.  Sam's earlier additions in that history
discussed trail portions in BC.

Sam do you recall the details?  Should this relation be replaced,
without members or 'fixed' with members added?

Best regards,
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Ya, just list that local trail with it's local name, as a relation but as a
local or regional route. You should see physical signs saying "Laurel
Trail"  and/or 'Iron Horse Trail'.  Just map these 2 trails as 'routes' and
if they are cycle-able, the preference is to list it as a cycle-route, in
that area of the country.  IMO. ... if the Trail is a 'Route'  then a
'route' can go on any surface type.  But the actual gravel/paved segments
should be labeled as they physically are (and physically named) on the
ground.   No 'Trans Canada Trail' relation is needed.(until the
copyright is fixed, see MEGA detail below).
In Capital Region District (Victoria) the Galloping Goose is an excellent
example of how to map a regional route. (note that surface is not defined,
because it is mixed)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/19895


***

Thanks Adam for pointing that out.

In short, I fixed up the wiki to show about Trans Canada Trail
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trans_Canada_Trail


In long, unfortunately this week is the Trans Canada Trail AGM, where i am
unable to attend in person.  Where my aim was to address this VERY issue.

And unfortunately, (for some reason) Tim Hoskin was unable (and still is) to
email me directly.  (He probably did email me, but it didn't go through at
his end.  Actually back in May he probably emailed me, but it didn't go
through.  Leaving me to the assumption that my email was not received. It
would have helped a great deal to have heard from him at that time, then i
would have made plans to actually go to Ottawa, as i would have a 'fuller'
understanding of the Trans Canada Trail and its history, where they plan on
being in the future.

I do have a nice LONG letter that i am thinking of sending to the Trans
Canada Trail, along with my proxy vote (and voting 'no'), as i feel that the
Trans Canada Trail is not providing alternate routes, and has no plans on
listing the bi-pass route and temporary alternates, and is not technically
navigable for 1 user, which is not what the original intention of the Trans
Canada Trail is. (from my understanding). ... but i am hesitant to send it
along, as i don't know if it will make a difference, and instead might just
frustrate people more than I already have.

Basically, what it is, is that i have a hard time understanding what this
"Trans Canada Trail" actually IS.   I cannot say that it is a "bicycle
route", nor can i say that it is a "hiking route" nor is it a "snowmobile
route", or a "equestrian route"  as it is in fact a 'Greenway'.  (so in
short, listing it as a 'NCN' would not be correct)

Here is Charles-Andre's answer to me.  (which i needed clarification on),
and i attached my original email to.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Charles-Andre Roy 
Date: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: Across Canada Trails - or TCT 'route' across Canada
To: Sam Vekemans 


Hi again Sam,

For your question about our vision for the trail is quite simple. We are
focusing on multi-purpose greenway trail that support some combination of
walking/hiking, cycling, horseback riding, skiing, canoe and snowmobiling
wherever possible and appropriate. Our objective is to link all across
Canada from coast to coast to coast.

Now, h

Re: [Talk-ca] Nts tile names

[Sam Vekemans]

Thanks,
Does anyone know how to create a little java program that can take
details from the .xml file, and the .htm file and rename the folder
with select details?
I dont know how todo that in DOS (if its possable) either.

Sam

On 9/21/09, Brent Fraser  wrote:
> Sam,
>
>Each CanVec tile has a date in its XML metadata (in the
>  tag).  Perhaps it might be useful.
>
> Best Regards,
> Brent Fraser
>
> Sam Vekemans wrote:
>> Thanks,
>> I even have access to it on my mobile :)
>> 'year valid' is what we need (doesnt need to be exact).
>>
>> In other news, i found the pictorial representation of the country in
>> NTS tile #'s. It'll be handy later.
>>
>> Great find!
>> cheers,
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/09, Frank Steggink  wrote:
>>> Sam Vekemans wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Frank Steggink >>> > wrote:

 Hi Sam,

 Yes, i think there is a limit to the number of rows that
 GoogleSpreadsheet will allow.. so im not sure how to deal with
 that yet. .. it's a work in progress :-)

 Split up per province, or per 8x4 degree sheet?
 By the way, I noticed you've started correcting the rows I've
 merged. I've completed them now. An in case you didn,'t know, here
 [1] is a NRCan site where you can find all tile names. Could be
 useful for the spreadsheet, but adding them might be a very big
 task, or you need to export the data from Google, and import them
 later ;) Not sure if that is possible.

 hi, can you attach the link again? I think it was missed.

 Cheers,
 Sam
>>> Oops, forgot to insert the actual link :)
>>> It's here: http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/topo_metadata/topo_metadata_e.php
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [Talk-ca] Nts tile names

[Brent Fraser]

Sam,

   Each CanVec tile has a date in its XML metadata (in the 
 tag).  Perhaps it might be useful.

Best Regards,
Brent Fraser

Sam Vekemans wrote:
> Thanks,
> I even have access to it on my mobile :)
> 'year valid' is what we need (doesnt need to be exact).
> 
> In other news, i found the pictorial representation of the country in
> NTS tile #'s. It'll be handy later.
> 
> Great find!
> cheers,
> Sam
> 
> 
> On 9/19/09, Frank Steggink  wrote:
>> Sam Vekemans wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Frank Steggink >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> Yes, i think there is a limit to the number of rows that
>>> GoogleSpreadsheet will allow.. so im not sure how to deal with
>>> that yet. .. it's a work in progress :-)
>>>
>>> Split up per province, or per 8x4 degree sheet?
>>> By the way, I noticed you've started correcting the rows I've
>>> merged. I've completed them now. An in case you didn,'t know, here
>>> [1] is a NRCan site where you can find all tile names. Could be
>>> useful for the spreadsheet, but adding them might be a very big
>>> task, or you need to export the data from Google, and import them
>>> later ;) Not sure if that is possible.
>>>
>>> hi, can you attach the link again? I think it was missed.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sam
>> Oops, forgot to insert the actual link :)
>> It's here: http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/topo_metadata/topo_metadata_e.php
>>
>> Frank
>>
> 
> 

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Re: [Talk-ca] Trans Canada Trail relation

[Richard Weait]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Adam Glauser  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was cleaning up some areas where the TCT shares its path with roads
> and other existing trails (here http://osm.org/go/ZXnePd73--, if you are
> interested).
>
> It appears that there used to be a relation, which was part of a mass
> deletion recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837).
>  Should this relation be resurrected, a new one created, or something else?

Hey, Sam! Adam found something with our fingerprints on it!  ;-)

Adam, the history here

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837/history

shows that this was deleted deliberately by andrzej as the relation
had no members.  The discussion andrzej referenced in his delete
comment (How very polite, by the way!) asked about the validity of
relations or ways with no members as a data quality / validity
question.  So I think andrzej deletion should stand for now.

Earlier in the history Sam (acrosscanadatrails) says I asked him to
remove his earlier work.  I don't recall the details of the
conversation, but I probably did.  That Adam found part of the
relation in Ontario.  Sam's earlier additions in that history
discussed trail portions in BC.

Sam do you recall the details?  Should this relation be replaced,
without members or 'fixed' with members added?

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [Talk-ca] canvec2osm v0.9.1 sample areas ready

[Richard Weait]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Sam Vekemans
 wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm happy to report that all there are now a bunch of areas available to
> load and copy over to OSM ... and check for errors.

Just having a look at Sam's converted files for 092o06 (Anvil Mountain)

I see an issue that I spotted in my own converted files last night.  I
plan look further at the details later today but your help earlier is
welcome.

To see the symptoms:

- load the six wooded area files into josm.
- select wooded-0 as the active layer
- select all object on the layer
- zoom in to the four selected areas, just west of the mid-point of the tile

What I see:

I see four 'inner' ways selected, but not their two respective 'outer' ways.

What I expected to see:

I expected all members ways of the same relation to be in the same layer.

josm 1788 (old) does not throw an error for this.  Newer josm throws a
warning "relation with no outer way" IIRC.

I fear that this error breaks relations in a way that requires them to
be manually reconstructed (if they are accepted by the API)

I do not yet know if this behaviour is a function of the canvec rules
files, or of shp-to-osm --maxnodes.
Your thoughts?

Additionally, in my converted files last night, I found that the
combined wooded areas from a recent conversion did not include all of
the data that was converted with older tools (shp-to-osm 0.2?  and
canvec rules 0.22?)  I need to look into this further and will report
back.

Best regards,
Richard

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[Talk-ca] Trans Canada Trail relation

[Adam Glauser]

Hi everyone,

I was cleaning up some areas where the TCT shares its path with roads 
and other existing trails (here http://osm.org/go/ZXnePd73--, if you are 
interested).

It appears that there used to be a relation, which was part of a mass 
deletion recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/146837). 
  Should this relation be resurrected, a new one created, or something else?

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[Talk-ca] canvec2osm v0.9.1 sample areas ready

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi all,
I'm happy to report that all there are now a bunch of areas available to
load and copy over to OSM ... and check for errors.

http://www.inthosedays.com/acrosscanadatrails/openstreetmap/


   - 011 
area/
   - 021 
area/
   -  030 
area/
   - 031 
area/
   - 040 
area/
   - 062 
area/
   - 092 area vancouver island lower
mainland/
   -

The details are all available on the Canada Data Import Chart, so please
indicate on there what files your working on copying over, so then everyone
knows who is doing what :-)
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Am70fsptsPF2dG1ZN1YwMmZCVDhDOHZpbUNmOGlvWGc&hl=en
If you dont already have editing access, just ask.


And so if you have any tile ares that you would like converted, just ask and
i'll put it next on my list. :)

I would recommend just opening up the .osm.zip file and copying over what
you like.   I would keep in mind however, that the point of making these
files available is to FIND BUGS.  'cause as soon as one is found, all the
other files that went through the conversion script will be OLD... :-(

Version 0.9.0  doesnt contain the README.txt file, but version 0.9.1 does.
You can read it here
http://www.inthosedays.com/acrosscanadatrails/openstreetmap/canvec2osm%20conversion%20script/README.txt

Cheers,
Sam

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Re: [Talk-ca] [Local-chapters] Statement of purpose for local chapters

[Sam Vekemans]

Re: talk-us discussion

Having 1 member living in the state of incorporation is key, and 20
members i nice to have. There is a need to search internally to find
mappers who are also lawyers and have experience setting up
non-profits.

Also, phone teleconference works, provided people know about it, and
what # to call :-)

I'd (really) recommend setting up a talk-nz and a talk-au list with
osm.org so that everyone is on board and on the same page. (im on the
other lists and can see that there is a rift, or maybe its just me :)

In Canada we have the OSGeoBC & Ottawa & Quebec list, where some are
OSMrs, we all need to be on the same page :)

re: big .osm files
I need to than Ian Dees (again) because since SHP-to-osm-5.0.jar you
can add the "-maxnodes 2000" switch where it will make nice small
.osm0 .osm1 .osm2 .osm3 etc. files that can be happely imported with
JOSM.

Hope that helps,
Sam


On 9/21/09, John Smith  wrote:
> 2009/9/21 Sam Vekemans :
>> Thanks John,
>> This sounds a bit better worded than before. And looks like something
>> that i'd recommend for Canada to start thinking about next year.
>
> We're starting to come up with ideas where a local non-profit is
> essential, fund raising for sat imagery etc, the draft stuff for local
> chapters that already exist isn't final and who knows how long it will
> take to finalise the new local chapters stuff so we're most likely
> going to incorporate sooner rather than later as it is hindering our
> progress.
>
> You are welcome to borrow from the rest of the document we've cooked
> up so far, not sure how much use it will be to you or most others as
> it's essentially the model rules the NSW state govt publishes modified
> with a statement of purpose etc.
>
> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZf0jIYShBc0ZGNicXR6OXZfMGdoOGsycGZi&hl=en
>
>> Btw, im also following along on the talk-us list, as there seems to be
>> a more active interest.
>
> Any chance of a summary so we don't have to reinvent the wheel where
> possible?
>
>> Fortunataly, the process im going through is a 'data conversion' where
>> i make the .osm files available, rather than 'blanket importing
>> myself' i think its a good work-around, and should be adopted for
>> other imports.
>
> This is what happened with Aussie post codes, except a couple of them
> are exceptionally large > 40,000 points and so you can't easily do
> much with them in JOSM.
>


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Re: [Talk-ca] [Local-chapters] Statement of purpose for local chapters

[Sam Vekemans]

Thanks John,
This sounds a bit better worded than before. And looks like something
that i'd recommend for Canada to start thinking about next year.

I'll post on the Canada wiki a spot for a list of all those interested
in taking part in the creation.

Btw, im also following along on the talk-us list, as there seems to be
a more active interest.

Also, for example, with the latest 'data import' from France & the EU,
having a local chapter would make it a bit easier, so its not just 1
person making the decisions of what tags to use.

Where as, for the Canada CanVec data import (im working on), if it was
an 'OSM Canada Foundation' decision to designate myself as the primary
decision maker, then it would be a bit more democratic that way.

Fortunataly, the process im going through is a 'data conversion' where
i make the .osm files available, rather than 'blanket importing
myself' i think its a good work-around, and should be adopted for
other imports.

OTOH, So having me 'designated' might be able to permit me to
'blanket-import', ONLY if the local foundation voted for it.

Cheers,
Sam

On 9/20/09, John Smith  wrote:
> I borrowed and extended the Australian Wikimedia chapter's statement
> of purpose, I thought others might find it useful as well.
>
> Statement of Purpose
> OpenStreetMap Australia Inc. is an independent, not-for-profit
> organisation, whose primary aim is to promote equal access and the
> opportunity to participate in the collaborative creation of Free
> Geospatial Data, especially data relating directly within the borders
> of Australia.
>
> The purpose of the organisation is to:
>
>1. organise and participate in educational and social events that
> promote the development of Free Geospatial Data and related tools to
> add, edit and manipulate geospatial data.
>2. increase public awareness of the OpenStreetMap Foundation.
>3. facilitate participation in the projects hosted by the
> OpenStreetMap Foundation (OSM-F)
>4. develop resources to assist Australians in the creation and
> maintenance of Free Geospatial Data
>
> Free Geospatial Data is geospatial data which can be freely studied,
> applied, copied and/or modified, by anyone, for any purpose. See
> freedomdefined.org/Definition for a more detailed definition.
>
> OpenStreetMap Foundation is a non-profit organisation incorporated in
> the UK. It is the service provider of the openstreetmap projects
> listed in full on the official OpenStreetMap Foundation site, the most
> prominent being OpenStreetMap.org.
>
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