Re: [Talk-ca] Wikidata in OpenStreetMap

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 11/11/2016 05:08 AM, Devon Fyson wrote:
> With respect to linking wikidata and OSM, all those properties should be
> added to wikidata if they don't already exist. Then link to it by simply
> adding the wikidata ID in OSM. Then if OSM ever wants to merge wikidata
> in, it can all be done automatically via the wikidata ID. Most of what
> is in that Ottawa example is already in wikidata and so it doesn't make
> sense to duplicate it.

I don't think James was advocating for adding stuff to OSM, but if he
was, yes then I'm totally with you - the Wikidata link should be
sufficient, and we don't want to copy stuff from Wikidata.

(Nor do we want to copy stuff from OSM *into* Wikidata because this
would then make parts of Wikidata ODbL licensed, something that Wikidata
certainly won't approve of.)

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-ca] Wikidata in OpenStreetMap

[Devon Fyson]

With respect to linking wikidata and OSM, all those properties should be
added to wikidata if they don't already exist. Then link to it by simply
adding the wikidata ID in OSM. Then if OSM ever wants to merge wikidata in,
it can all be done automatically via the wikidata ID. Most of what is in
that Ottawa example is already in wikidata and so it doesn't make sense to
duplicate it. See this discussion

on wikidata.
As for cross referencing existing OSM nodes with existing wikidata IDs, the
fastest way would be to use a script to search between the two databases
with a best fit algorithm then have user intervention to ensure quality.
(eg node 18886011 at 45, -75 is a capital with name 'Ottawa' and looks to
match Q1930 with a 90% fit, next match of ___ is a 50% fit). Even lower
hanging fruit would be to start with cross-referencing via the wikipedia
tags which could probably be fully automated. eg OSM → wikipedia → wikidata
to generate OSM → wikidata.
Devon

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:19 PM, John Marshall  wrote:

> Great work James. I'm in.
>
> John
>
> John Marshall
>
> On Nov 10, 2016 20:17, "James"  wrote:
>
>> Seeing as ID[1] and Mapbox[2] are pushing to incorporate wikidata into
>> OSM, I thought it would be a perfect little project when mappers have
>> nothing better to do or in their downtime.
>>
>> The wikidata link can help developers get vital information like the
>> current population, current mayor, flags, coat of arms,etc. The list goes
>> on. This is a lot of data that can't necessarily be encoded into OSM. This
>> would help simplify the use of OSM data for small developers.
>>
>> I've started a project on the OSMCanada Tasking Manager here:
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/40
>>
>> Join in for a more data rich Canada :)
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id-wikidata/
>> [2] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/geocoding-wikidata/
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Re: [Talk-ca] Wikidata in OpenStreetMap

[John Marshall]

Great work James. I'm in.

John

John Marshall

On Nov 10, 2016 20:17, "James"  wrote:

> Seeing as ID[1] and Mapbox[2] are pushing to incorporate wikidata into
> OSM, I thought it would be a perfect little project when mappers have
> nothing better to do or in their downtime.
>
> The wikidata link can help developers get vital information like the
> current population, current mayor, flags, coat of arms,etc. The list goes
> on. This is a lot of data that can't necessarily be encoded into OSM. This
> would help simplify the use of OSM data for small developers.
>
> I've started a project on the OSMCanada Tasking Manager here:
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/40
>
> Join in for a more data rich Canada :)
>
>
> [1] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id-wikidata/
> [2] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/geocoding-wikidata/
>
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[Talk-ca] Wikidata in OpenStreetMap

[James]

Seeing as ID[1] and Mapbox[2] are pushing to incorporate wikidata into OSM,
I thought it would be a perfect little project when mappers have nothing
better to do or in their downtime.

The wikidata link can help developers get vital information like the
current population, current mayor, flags, coat of arms,etc. The list goes
on. This is a lot of data that can't necessarily be encoded into OSM. This
would help simplify the use of OSM data for small developers.

I've started a project on the OSMCanada Tasking Manager here:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/40

Join in for a more data rich Canada :)


[1] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id-wikidata/
[2] https://www.mapbox.com/blog/geocoding-wikidata/
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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #329 11/01/2016-11/07/2016

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 329,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8289/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM?
who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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