Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

2015-03-23 12:45 GMT+05:30 Aruna S :

> Hi Jaisen,
>
> As someone who's a newcomer to mapping, I've just been introduced to some
> wonderful possibilities. Thanks so much for documenting the process so
> extensively, makes for very good reading and learning material. Koorachundu
> is a beautiful village.
>
>
>
Thank you Aruna,

I was busy with the hurries at the year-ending, so couldn't reply prompt.
Sorry for that.

You are always welcome. :)


>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Yogesh योगि <
> yog...@karnatakaeducation.org.in> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Jaisen,
>>
>> On Saturday 21 March 2015 07:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala wrote:
>> > Hai,
>> >
>> > I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
>> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>> >
>> > Here is the link:
>> >
>> >
>> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>>
>> One of the fine examples of using OSM at the grassroots level.
>> Well documented with nice pictures, will certainly help other local
>> governments engaged in similar efforts. :) Loved the Malayalam map and
>> GNOME being used in Malayalam. :) :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Sent from an Electronic Device
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

2015-03-23 9:49 GMT+05:30 Yogesh योगि :

>  Hi Jaisen,
>
> On Saturday 21 March 2015 07:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala wrote:
> > Hai,
> >
> > I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> >
> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>
> One of the fine examples of using OSM at the grassroots level.
> Well documented with nice pictures, will certainly help other local
> governments engaged in similar efforts. :) Loved the Malayalam map and
> GNOME being used in Malayalam. :) :)
>
>
Thank you Yogesh..

All the tools used were free software in this venture, except the operating
systems deployed at O/o village panchayat - which were windows. :(

It was not our fault, but the mandatory software programs we have to use at
our office which are developed and deployed by Information Kerala Mission,
only work on M$ Windows :( So we can't change them to GNU/Linux and make
theme more productive. But one system which we use to connect to internet
is free from those tags, and which runs on Debian GNU/Linux with GNOME,
with locale: Malayalam :)


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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Aruna S]

Hi Jaisen,

As someone who's a newcomer to mapping, I've just been introduced to some
wonderful possibilities. Thanks so much for documenting the process so
extensively, makes for very good reading and learning material. Koorachundu
is a beautiful village.



On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Yogesh योगि <
yog...@karnatakaeducation.org.in> wrote:

>  Hi Jaisen,
>
> On Saturday 21 March 2015 07:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala wrote:
> > Hai,
> >
> > I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
> >
> > Here is the link:
> >
> >
> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>
> One of the fine examples of using OSM at the grassroots level.
> Well documented with nice pictures, will certainly help other local
> governments engaged in similar efforts. :) Loved the Malayalam map and
> GNOME being used in Malayalam. :) :)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yogesh K S
> Sent from an Electronic Device
>
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Yogesh योगि]

Hi Jaisen,

On Saturday 21 March 2015 07:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala wrote:
> Hai,
>
> I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>
> Here is the link:
>
> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/

One of the fine examples of using OSM at the grassroots level.
Well documented with nice pictures, will certainly help other local
governments engaged in similar efforts. :) Loved the Malayalam map and
GNOME being used in Malayalam. :) :)




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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

Hai,

Thank you Alex. I got some new insights from the shared post. Thank you
once again. :)


2015-03-22 9:25 GMT+05:30 Alex Barth :

> This is a very impressive initiative, thank you for sharing. It is a
> living example of what Mikel is talking about in yesterday's post:
>
> "For government, OpenStreetMap is more than just data, it's a
> transformation"
>
> http://openstreetmap.us/2015/03/government-and-openstreetmap/
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

Hai Shravan and Arun Ganesh,

Yes, definitely you people can join us. we really want to improve the
OpenStreetMap in our area. And experienced hands could contribute a lot in
this regard. But the Village Panchayat is unable to fund for it right now.
We are in search of some other ways to meet the expenses. If somebody come
forward to help us in this regard, we will manage the rest of everything.
Thank you..

2015-03-22 9:27 GMT+05:30 shravan :

> Jaisen,
>
> This is amazing. I would like to join in too!
>
> Thanks,
> Shravan
>
>
On 22 March 2015 at 00:53, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hai,
>>>
>>> I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
>>> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>>>
>>> Here is the link:
>>>
>>> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>>>
>>
>> Cannot believe I completely missed this thread. This is an amazing story!
>> Jaisen, what plans next? I'd love to join in.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Valuable comments expected.
>>>
>>> 2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :
>>>
 Hai,

   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
 offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
 conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
 and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)

 A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00
 am on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
 Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
 Koorachundu.

 A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at
 3.00 pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their
 experience during this programme.

 We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
 they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
 during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
 closing ceremony too.

 Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
 inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.

 We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
 coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
 those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.

 If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
 smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
 for this venture. :)

 Best.

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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[shravan]

Jaisen,

This is amazing. I would like to join in too!

Thanks,
Shravan


On 22 March 2015 at 00:53, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala 
> wrote:
>
>> Hai,
>>
>> I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
>> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>>
>> Here is the link:
>>
>> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>>
>
> Cannot believe I completely missed this thread. This is an amazing story!
> Jaisen, what plans next? I'd love to join in.
>
>
>>
>> Valuable comments expected.
>>
>> 2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :
>>
>>> Hai,
>>>
>>>   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
>>> offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
>>> conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
>>> and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)
>>>
>>> A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00
>>> am on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
>>> Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
>>> Koorachundu.
>>>
>>> A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at
>>> 3.00 pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their
>>> experience during this programme.
>>>
>>> We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
>>> they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
>>> during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
>>> closing ceremony too.
>>>
>>> Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
>>> inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.
>>>
>>> We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
>>> coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
>>> those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.
>>>
>>> If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
>>> smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
>>> for this venture. :)
>>>
>>> Best.
>>>
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Alex Barth]

This is a very impressive initiative, thank you for sharing. It is a living
example of what Mikel is talking about in yesterday's post:

"For government, OpenStreetMap is more than just data, it's a
transformation"

http://openstreetmap.us/2015/03/government-and-openstreetmap/

On Saturday, March 21, 2015, Jaisen Nedumpala  wrote:

> Hai,
>
> I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>
> Here is the link:
>
> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>
> Valuable comments expected.
>
> 2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala  >:
>
>> Hai,
>>
>>   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
>> offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
>> conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
>> and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)
>>
>> A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00
>> am on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
>> Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
>> Koorachundu.
>>
>> A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at
>> 3.00 pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their
>> experience during this programme.
>>
>> We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
>> they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
>> during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
>> closing ceremony too.
>>
>> Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
>> inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.
>>
>> We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
>> coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
>> those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.
>>
>> If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
>> smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
>> for this venture. :)
>>
>> Best.
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Arun Ganesh]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala 
wrote:

> Hai,
>
> I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
> mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.
>
> Here is the link:
>
> http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/
>

Cannot believe I completely missed this thread. This is an amazing story!
Jaisen, what plans next? I'd love to join in.


>
> Valuable comments expected.
>
> 2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :
>
>> Hai,
>>
>>   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
>> offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
>> conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
>> and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)
>>
>> A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00
>> am on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
>> Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
>> Koorachundu.
>>
>> A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at
>> 3.00 pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their
>> experience during this programme.
>>
>> We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
>> they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
>> during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
>> closing ceremony too.
>>
>> Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
>> inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.
>>
>> We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
>> coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
>> those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.
>>
>> If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
>> smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
>> for this venture. :)
>>
>> Best.
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

Hai,

I have written a blog post, about the background, and the need of the
mapping experiments held at Koorachundu Village Panchayat.

Here is the link:

http://blog.smc.org.in/mapping-efforts-in-an-unsurveyed-land-koorachundu/

Valuable comments expected.

2014-07-16 8:52 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :

> Hai,
>
>   I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
> offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
> conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
> and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)
>
> A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00 am
> on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
> Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
> Koorachundu.
>
> A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at 3.00
> pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their experience
> during this programme.
>
> We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and
> they will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers
> during the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the
> closing ceremony too.
>
> Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
> inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.
>
> We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
> coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
> those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.
>
> If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
> smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
> for this venture. :)
>
> Best.
>
> --
> ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
>  - ജയ്സെനോവ് നെടുമ്പാലോവിച്ച് പഹയനോവ്സ്കി -
> ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
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> «´¨`·* . Jaisenov. *..´¨`»
> (¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
> ¸.·´^.`'·.¸ ¸.·'´
>  ( `·.¸`·.¸
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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

Hai,

  I have discussed the idea with the president and secretary, and they
offered their whole-hearted support for this plan. They suggested to
conduct this programme in the next week, starting from 21/7/2014 (Monday)
and finish the work on 25/7/2014 (Friday). (Sorry for this short notice.)

A very simple inaugural and introductory function is scheduled at 11.00 am
on 21/7/2014 (Monday).
Venue: The panchayat meeting room, O/o Koorachundu Village Panchayat,
Koorachundu.

A simple closing ceremony will also be there on 25/7/2014 (Friday) at 3.00
pm in the evening, everyone who participated can share their experience
during this programme.

We have the contact details of resource persons for all the wards, and they
will participate in the inaugural meeting and will help the mappers during
the physical survey in the field. They will also participate in the closing
ceremony too.

Special note: No need to worry if anybody can't reach here for the
inaugural function, they can join us any time before 25/7/2014.

We are on the way to arrange the lodging facilities, for those who are
coming from distant places. So please send me a personal mail off-list,
those who love to help us and want to participate during this period.

If any one can arrange a few extra handheld GPS receivers, and/or spare
smartphones with GPS receivers will be considered as their kind blessing
for this venture. :)

Best.

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Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

2014-07-08 11:46 GMT+05:30 Devdatta Tengshe :


>  Hi Jaisen,
> You have raised a lot of important points, and I appreciate that you have
> though of using OpenStreetMap for this.
>
>
Thank you for your response. I am sorry, that I couldn't respond to this
until now, because my 11 months old little daughter didn't allow me these
days to think about anything other than her, when I am at my home. :)


> Please note that I'm talking from my background of working on GIS projects
> with a lot of government organisations rather than just a strictly
> OpenStreetMapper. So others can chime in if I'm wrong.
>
> I have seen far too often that government Institutions give more
> importance to the map rather than the actual data. They do not understand
> that the map is just a representation of the data, and the data is far more
> important, as
>   a)it is not limited by the scale of the map, and can be of a
> much higher resolution and accuracy.
>   b) can be used for other processes & analysis.
>

Yes, it is.


>
> This is why I believe that databases like OpenStreetmap can be useful.
>
> However, I can foresee multiple challenges in achieving what you want.
>
> 1) Firstly, Government Institutions need data which is authoritative and
> certifiable. Will your panchayat and other institutions accept a map that
> is not from any legally recognised Authority?
>

Ok. Let me clarify what I think. Let us check that.

The term "certify" means, "Attest or confirm in a formal statement"
and a "Certificate" is, "An official document attesting a fact, in
particular"
and "Authoritative" means "Able to be trusted as being accurate or true;
reliable:"

Ref: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/

Now let us check, who has the authority and who is authorised to certify
here:

1. Grama Sabhas and Village Panchayats are constitutional bodies, whose
authority is guaranteed by the Articles 243-243O in PART IX of the
constitution of India.

Ref: (1): http://www.constitution.org/cons/india/p09.html
(2)
http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/Const.Pock%202Pg.Rom8Fsss%2813%29.pdf

2. Now we will check, the relevent portions in the Kerala Panchayat Raj
Act, 1994:

"Section 166. Powers, duties and functions of village panchayat. - (1) It
shall be the duty of the village panchayat to meet the requirements of the
village panchayat area in respect of the matters enumerated in the Third
Schedule:

Provided that it shall be the duty of the village panchayat to render
services to the inhabitants of the village panchayat area in respect of the
matters enumerated as mandatory functions in the Third Schedule."

Now what is there in the Third Schedule?

"THIRD SCHEDULE - Functions of Village Panchayats

B. General Functions - 1. Collection and updating of essential statistics."

Now let us check, whether there any relation with statistics with maps.
Just search in any of the search engines, with the key "statistics related
map". Google image search will return a lot of results. Those are the proof
for "Maps are helpful for presenting statistics, and for presenting updated
statistics, over time" So, mapping can be justified, because it help to
carry out the fuction of village panchayat "Collection and updating of
essential statistics". [Am I apprears to be an interpretation factory?:) ]

Now, what is the relevant powers of the president of a village panchayat?

"Section 156. Function of President and Vice-President. - Save as otherwise
expressly provided by or under this act, the executive power for the
purpose of carrying out the provisions of this act and the resolution
passed by a panchayat shall vest in the President thereof who shall be
directly responsible for the due fulfilment of the duties imposed upon the
panchayat by or under this act."

So the president is the executive authority of a village panchayat.

Now, let us also check the relevant powers of the secretary of a village
panchayat too:

"Section 182. Powers and functions of the Secretary. - Subject to the
provisions of this Act and the rules grade there under, Secretary the as
executive officer of the panchayat shall, -

 (v) discharge all the duties and exercise all the powers specifically
imposed or conferred on the Secretary by or under this Act."

So the secretary is the executive officer to a village panchayat. Now, just
have a look at the following section too, in the KPR Act, Which I think is
relevant in this case:

"Section 250: Protection of Acts done in good faith

(1) No suit prosecution or other legal proceedings shall lie against the
president, vice-president, any member, secretary, any officer or employee
of a panchayat for anything which is in good faith done or purported or
intended to be done in pursuance of this Act or any rule or bye-law made
thereunder."

That is the legal protection guaranteed by the KPR act. In my previous
mail, I erroneously used the term "good will" instead of "good faith".
(Occured due to incorrect translation -

Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Devdatta Tengshe]

Hi Jaisen,
You have raised a lot of important points, and I appreciate that you have
though of using OpenStreetMap for this.

Please note that I'm talking from my background of working on GIS projects
with a lot of government organisations rather than just a strictly
OpenStreetMapper. So others can chime in if I'm wrong.

I have seen far too often that government Institutions give more importance
to the map rather than the actual data. They do not understand that the map
is just a representation of the data, and the data is far more important,
as
  a)it is not limited by the scale of the map, and can be of a
much higher resolution and accuracy.
  b) can be used for other processes & analysis.

This is why I believe that databases like OpenStreetmap can be useful.

However, I can foresee multiple challenges in achieving what you want.

1) Firstly, Government Institutions need data which is authoritative and
certifiable. Will your panchayat and other institutions accept a map that
is not from any legally recognised Authority?

2) You have mentioned the following 7 different priorities for the mapping.
Out of these 2, 3, 5, 6 & 7 can be created either from satellite Data, or
Ground Survey (The Ground survey can be done with a simple Android Phone).
Generally it will not be possible to generate data for points 1, 2 & 4
satellite Data or Ground Survey, since they are not features on the Ground,
but boundaries in some map or described in some document. In certain cases,
there might be boundary markers on the ground.

If you need Authentic Data for these, you need the source data. Do you have
the Ward Boundary, Panchayat Boundary and Forest Area Boundary from the
concerned departments?

Once these questions have been answered, maybe something can be worked out.

Regards,
Devdatta Tengshe


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Jaisen Nedumpala 
wrote:

>
> The location is here:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/11.5475/75.8735
>
>
> 2014-07-07 6:36 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :
>
> Hi,
>> I am Jaisen Nedumpala, roaming here for quite a while as a
>> contributor of OpenStreetMap, mainly focused on the mapping of Kozhikode
>> district. Right now, I am working as the assistant secretary to the
>> Koorachundu village panchayat, in Kozhikode district.
>>
>> What I am going to describe here is not purely a community issue,
>> much related with my official duties too. But a village panchayat itself is
>> a community, which:
>>
>> 1. enjoy an official status,
>> 2. have its own powers and duties,
>> 3. full legal recognition and
>> 4. authority over a defined local geographical area.
>>
>> So I think, it might not be wrong to raise this issue here, in the
>> hope that, this would be considered as an act of goodwill.
>>
>> Here we have an immediate requirement to map the village panchayat
>> area, that might be helpful for the panchayat elections, which will be held
>> in the year 2015. After the elections this map would be the base map for
>> all the future practical purposes.
>>
>> State Election Commission (SEC-Kerala) realises that, systematically
>> prepared maps can be used as a base map for administrative, scientific and
>> academic purposes as an official document. Such a map would be useful as a
>> base document for future delimitation of wards or bifurcation of Local Self
>> Government Institutions. So SEC-K has issued an order to prepare maps for
>> all Local Self Government Institutions of Kerala, which is available here
>> in this link:
>>
>> http://lsg.kerala.gov.in/news/files/More_Details_352.pdf
>> (Language: Malayalam.)
>>
>> As per the order, the duties are assigned as follows:
>>
>> 1. Prepare maps for village panchayats, municipalities and municipal
>> corporations (Local Self Government Institutions - LSGIs) with their
>> external boundaries and mark geographical and man-made features such as
>> small and big rivers, streams, roads, forests, raliway line etc. in those
>> maps. Then pass down these maps to the LSGIs. The maps for village
>> panchayats will be in A3 size (municipality: A2 size, municipal
>> corporation: A1 size) and in defined scale, both in hard and soft copies,
>> and will be issued to LSGIs within 15/07/2014. --Duty assigned to the
>> Department of Survey and Land Records.
>>
>> 2. After obtaining the map from the Department of Survey and Land
>> Records, The engineer in charge of public works at the LSGI, should draw
>> the existing ward boundaries (which were fixed in 2010) and notable
>> geographical marks, under the supervision of secretary of LSGI, after field
>> verification. This job should be done within 29/07/2014 (within 9 working
>> days after receiving the maps from Survey and Land Records) in case of
>> village panchayats. --Duty assigned to the secretary and Engineer of LSGI.
>>
>> 3. After obtaining back the map with ward boundaries and notable
>> geographical marks from LSGIs, the Department of Survey and Lan

Re: [Talk-in] About having a mapping party in Koorachundu Village Panchayat - Kozhikode district - Kerala - Reg.

[Jaisen Nedumpala]

The location is here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/11.5475/75.8735


2014-07-07 6:36 GMT+05:30 Jaisen Nedumpala :

> Hi,
> I am Jaisen Nedumpala, roaming here for quite a while as a contributor
> of OpenStreetMap, mainly focused on the mapping of Kozhikode district.
> Right now, I am working as the assistant secretary to the Koorachundu
> village panchayat, in Kozhikode district.
>
> What I am going to describe here is not purely a community issue, much
> related with my official duties too. But a village panchayat itself is a
> community, which:
>
> 1. enjoy an official status,
> 2. have its own powers and duties,
> 3. full legal recognition and
> 4. authority over a defined local geographical area.
>
> So I think, it might not be wrong to raise this issue here, in the
> hope that, this would be considered as an act of goodwill.
>
> Here we have an immediate requirement to map the village panchayat
> area, that might be helpful for the panchayat elections, which will be held
> in the year 2015. After the elections this map would be the base map for
> all the future practical purposes.
>
> State Election Commission (SEC-Kerala) realises that, systematically
> prepared maps can be used as a base map for administrative, scientific and
> academic purposes as an official document. Such a map would be useful as a
> base document for future delimitation of wards or bifurcation of Local Self
> Government Institutions. So SEC-K has issued an order to prepare maps for
> all Local Self Government Institutions of Kerala, which is available here
> in this link:
>
> http://lsg.kerala.gov.in/news/files/More_Details_352.pdf
> (Language: Malayalam.)
>
> As per the order, the duties are assigned as follows:
>
> 1. Prepare maps for village panchayats, municipalities and municipal
> corporations (Local Self Government Institutions - LSGIs) with their
> external boundaries and mark geographical and man-made features such as
> small and big rivers, streams, roads, forests, raliway line etc. in those
> maps. Then pass down these maps to the LSGIs. The maps for village
> panchayats will be in A3 size (municipality: A2 size, municipal
> corporation: A1 size) and in defined scale, both in hard and soft copies,
> and will be issued to LSGIs within 15/07/2014. --Duty assigned to the
> Department of Survey and Land Records.
>
> 2. After obtaining the map from the Department of Survey and Land Records,
> The engineer in charge of public works at the LSGI, should draw the
> existing ward boundaries (which were fixed in 2010) and notable
> geographical marks, under the supervision of secretary of LSGI, after field
> verification. This job should be done within 29/07/2014 (within 9 working
> days after receiving the maps from Survey and Land Records) in case of
> village panchayats. --Duty assigned to the secretary and Engineer of LSGI.
>
> 3. After obtaining back the map with ward boundaries and notable
> geographical marks from LSGIs, the Department of Survey and Land Records
> will prepare the final maps of LSGI within 12/9/2014 using AutoCAD software
> program. --Duty assigned to the Department of Survey and Land Records.
>
> Main Points to note:
> 
>
> 1. LSGIs should have a systematically prepared base map for
> administrative, scientific and academic purposes as an official document.
> Such a map will be useful as a base document for future delimitation of
> wards or bifurcation LSGIs.
>
> 2. To become authentic, it must be prepared by the Department of Survey
> and Land Records, after receiving the official inputs from the LSGI
> authorities.
>
> 3. The maps for village panchayats will be in A3 size (municipality: A2
> size, municipal corporation: A1 size) and will be in defined scale.
>
> 4. Department of Survey and Land Records will prepare the final map after
> obtaining the inputs from LSGIs, using AutoCAD software program.
>
> Problems I could see:
> --
>
> 1.KILA and SEC-K jointly published a hand book covering LSGI elections
> and related subjects, originally titled in Malayalam, which can be
> translated as "Good governance through legal awareness - Hand book for
> People's Representatives and officials at LSGIs" in 2013. In its pages no:
> 12 and 13, it is said that ward delimitation should be done using the
> cadastral map prepared and issued by the Information Kerala Mission, and if
> they didn't prepare such a map for a particular village panchayat, then
> that should be prepared with the help of Survey Department.
>
> In case of Koorachundu village panchayat, Information Kerala Mission
> didn't prepare a cadastral map, so we approached the Department of Survey
> and Land Records regional and district authorities long before, but any
> action is still pending.
>
> In the hand book, it says about preparing a cadastral map, but in the
> order of SEC-K mentioned above, the word "cadastral" is not there. No clu