Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:35:37 +, Christoph Böhme wrote: > >> I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment and >> again I would not use OSM for that. >> >> Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map. > > There could be a feature request for this, right? Is there a problem > and reason why not to include time tables in OSM? In my opinion time tables are not geographical data. That's why I would not stick them in a database of a project that aims to collects geo data. Also (and more importantly), the data model of OSM is INHO completely unsuitable to handle time tables. It would, of course, be possible to devise some clever way of encoding bus stops in tags, but that would be very difficult to edit and even more difficult to query. Therefore, I think it is a better idea to create a different database for this type of information and simply link it to the bus stops in OSM. > I would love to see OSM transit map with time tables so that I could > check when some bus/tram should arrive at my stop. Yes, that would be really cool, but it does not mean that all the data has to come from the same database. Christoph > Cheers. > > ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:35:37 +, Christoph Böhme wrote: > I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment and again > I would not use OSM for that. > > Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map. There could be a feature request for this, right? Is there a problem and reason why not to include time tables in OSM? I would love to see OSM transit map with time tables so that I could check when some bus/tram should arrive at my stop. Cheers. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:56 +, Christoph Böhme wrote: > However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach Is it possible to make it using only opnestreetmap data, so that it open and legal? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
Valent Turkovic schrieb: > http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html > > Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time > Bus Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation > tracks and this would be the next step, if possible. Technically it is easily possible: All stops imported during the NaPTAN import have a tag called naptan:NaptanCode. This tag can be used to request real-time information (e.g. via text messages). In the West Midlands area this information can also be accessed via http://netwm.mobi/. So, theoretically you could simple display an overlay with bus stops in OpenLayers (like Novam [1] does) and automatically query netwm.mobi when the user clicks on a stop and display the netwm's output in a popup. However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach :-) Cheers, Christoph > Cheers. > > > > -- > pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, > http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > > ___ > Talk-transit mailing list > Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
Valent Turkovic schrieb: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:56 +, Christoph Böhme wrote: > > > However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach > > > Is it possible to make it using only opnestreetmap data, so that it > open and legal? The problem is that you need real-time data from the bus route operators to know where their busses are. Since this data is constantly changing Openstreetmap is -- in my opinion -- not the right place for it. It would also be handy to have the timetables in a database as well; I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment and again I would not use OSM for that. Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map. Cheers, Christoph > > -- > pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, > http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > > ___ > Talk-transit mailing list > Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
[Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time Bus Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation tracks and this would be the next step, if possible. Cheers. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
