Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Alexander,

on  Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:26:04 +0100GMT (25.11.2006, 00:26 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

ASK> Hello Peter Meyns & everyone else,

ASK> on 24-Nov-2006 at 21:06 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

>> What should I use for "C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local
>> Settings"? I'm sure there's something like %appdata.

ASK> Open a CMD window and type "set" to see all variables that are defined
ASK> on the system.

Thank you, this helped.

ASK> Amongst them you'll find the %USERPROFILE% variable with would point to
ASK> "c:\documents and settings\peter" in your example. You just have to
ASK> append the "\local settings" part.

Instead of %USERPROFILE% I found that %TEMP% works for what I
intended. It points to the user's local temp file, which is where The
Bat! leaves its rests.

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Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on  Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:04:21 +0700GMT (25.11.2006, 01:04 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:06:35 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 03:06 +0700 GMT),
TF> Peter Meyns wrote:

TF> [...]
PM>> | RD /S /Q C:\Temp
PM>> | MD C:\Temp
PM>> `-

PM>> I would like to have this generalized, so that it works on any
PM>> computer that my Voyager is allowed to run on.

TF> If you succeed, please do not run your Voyager on my machine. I
TF> wouldn't want you to delete and recreate my temp directories. You
TF> don't know what I have, and maybe would like to keep, in there. People
TF> work differently, and even if the temp directory "should" be empty, it
TF> isn't.

Ok, I see your point.

TF> ...

TF> Anyway. Do you know how to create a batch file that deletes the
TF> registry entry HKCU / Software / Rit / Voyager? This I would like to
TF> use.

I created a reg file named voyager_key_ex.reg with this contents:

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\Voyager]

and put it in the Voyager folder. For exiting Voyager I created
voyager_exit.bat in the root of the USB drive containing this:

Voyager\voyager.exe /exit
regedit /S Voyager\voyager_key_ex.reg

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Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on  Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:14:29 +0700GMT (25.11.2006, 16:14 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:04:32 +0100 GMT (25/11/2006, 20:04 +0700 GMT),
TF> Peter Meyns wrote:

PM>> and put it in the Voyager folder. For exiting Voyager I created
PM>> voyager_exit.bat in the root of the USB drive containing this:

PM>> Voyager\voyager.exe /exit

PM>> regedit /S Voyager\voyager_key_ex.reg

TF> What does the /S switch do?

It prevents the alert box "Do you really want to edit the registry" or
along that line.

TF> Peteres mail just answred my other question. Do you agree?

I haven't tried his scripts, because the ones I have do their job
accurately on three computers with Win98, Win2k and WinXP. Maybe his
scripts apply to more diverse systems - I don't know.

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Re: TB! 3.86.08: AV on mail checking

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Manuel,

on Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:43:36 +0100GMT, you wrote:

MD> TB! 3.86.08 is unusable here because of consistent AV on
MD> checking new mail, which hangs CC; does not happen with 3.86.07.
MD> ex_log.txt shows

MD> 2006-12-03 01:27 IMAP_Cmp:7 EAccessViolation Access violation at
MD> address 0069E6D2 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 000C
MD> 2006-12-03 01:27 IMAP_Cmp:7 EAccessViolation Access violation at
MD> address 0069E6D2 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 000C
MD> 2006-12-03 01:29 IMAP_Cmp:7 EAccessViolation Access violation at
MD> address 0069E6D2 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 000C
MD> 2006-12-03 01:29 IMAP_Cmp:7 EAccessViolation Access violation at
MD> address 0069E6D2 in module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 000C

MD> Seems some sort of IMAP issue, but a couple of POP account get also
MD> stuck.

MD> Running under Win2K SP4, with Bayes Filter and Avast plugins.

I get the same AV with the same addresses when I try to access my news
groups via MyGate. No IMAP here and the normal POP accounts work ok.
Maybe it is a Win2K issue, because it does not happen on my PC running
WinXP. It might also relate to OTFE that is enabled here, but not on
the PC. Do you use On-the-fly-encryption?

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3.86.10 Problem with MyGate

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

I still cannot use MyGate with this version. On the first attempt at
fetching messages it logs

!14.12.2006, 18:30:35: FETCH - Access violation at address 006F343A in
module 'theBat.exe'. Read of address 000C

and on following attempts tells me "Cannot connect to server". It only
happens on my notebook with Win2K/OTFE enabled, not on my PC with
WinXP/OTFE disabled.

Any other MyGate users here who can comment?

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Re: 3.86.10 Problem with MyGate

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Zygmunt,

on  Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:07:31 +0100GMT (14.12.2006, 19:07 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

ZW> On Thursday, December 14, 2006, at 18:51:38 [UTC+0100] (Thursday, December
ZW> 14, 2006 18:51 my local time) Peter Meyns wrote:

>> I still cannot use MyGate with this version. On the first attempt at
>> fetching messages it logs

ZW> Cannot confirm. As you can see in my signature, I use TB! with OTFE enabled.
ZW> I also use MyGate to subscribe several newsgroups. No problems here.

Thank you for your comment Zygmunt. So MyGate /should/ work with Win2K
and OTFE enabled. I still wonder why it doesn't here... hmm


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/dontstayontoplogo (was: 3.86.11 BETA)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Ian,

on  Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:54:49 +1100GMT (17.12.2006, 03:54 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

IAW> Unfortunately the magenta border persists...

IAW> The magenta border appears to be the extents of the defined graphic.
IAW> The normal splash image has the wing tips of the bat extend past the
IAW> "rectangle" into the transparent area. It is when you set The Bat! to
IAW> NOT have the splash logo stay on top that the magenta border is seen.

It is still ugly with the /dontstayontoplogo parameter set. However,
try it without it and you'll see that the splash screen doesn't stay
on top for long anyway. So I'd say the parameter is no longer needed.

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Re: 3.86.11 BETA - Acess Violation

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Victor,

on  Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:43:12 -0500GMT (18.12.2006, 16:43 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

VS> I'm getting the following with this beta:

VS> !12/18/2006, 10:27:24: FETCH - Access violation at address
VS> 006F382E in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 000C
VS> !12/18/2006, 10:28:24: FETCH - Could not connect to the server

VS> This happens strictly with the POP accounts for internal Exchange server. I 
get the messages above
VS> for these accounts and the connections just hang there in the
VS> connection center. TB can't be closed
VS> other than with /TERMINATE. Therefore I can't get email for these accounts. 
Total showstopper for
VS> me.

VS> 3.86.05 has no such problem and receives emails just fine.

The same thing happens here on my notebook for the messages from news
groups that I receive with the help of MyGate. For The Bat! this is
also a POP connection to an internal server. The notebook runs Win2K
SP4 and On-The-Fly-Encryption is enabled. On my PC (WinXP, no OTFE) it
does not occur.

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Peter

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Re: thebat_pro_3-95-01.msi & thebat_home_3-95-01.msi

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:40:59 +0200GMT (19.12.2006, 18:40 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Could you please test 
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-01.msi
MM> and 
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-95-01.msi
MM> which are based on 3.86.11?

I'm sorry, but I'm getting a 404.

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Re: thebat_pro_3-95-01.msi & thebat_home_3-95-01.msi

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:22:19 +0200GMT (19.12.2006, 21:22 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>>>I'm sorry, but I'm getting a 404.
MM> Can you download
MM> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-95-01.msi
MM> ? If yes, please let me know whether this version works properly.

The download worked ok now, but I don't have the time to try it today.
I'll get at it tomorrow or on Thursday.

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TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

yesterday I upgraded my girlfriend's TB!. She has an old notebook
running Win98SE with a P2 processor at 233 MHz. TB! starts normally
(the Christmas splash screen found her approval), but the main window
insists on having the focus. It cannot be minimized nor can other
windows like menus or a new message be used. They pop up and
immediately lose the focus. I found no way around this apart from
going back to 3.85.03.

The next surprise came when I started my Voyager on her machine. I had
found version 3.86.03 on Ritlabs' download page and installed it. It
works well on my WinXP PC. Under Win98SE it showed exactly the same
symptoms as 3.95.1, so I couldn't even complain about it until now,
because I couldn't write a new message. It pops up, but the focus gets
lost in a quarter of a second.

Does anyone here use Win98SE and see the same?

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Peter

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Re: TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:03:23 +0200GMT (21.12.2006, 19:03 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Thursday, December 21, 2006, 19:42:28, you wrote:

>>>yesterday I upgraded my girlfriend's TB!. She has an old notebook
>>>running Win98SE with a P2 processor at 233 MHz.
MM> Yes, The Bat! is currently incompatible with Win98, but we are going to fix 
this.

Thank you, that is good to know. :)

I think this particularly important for Voyager users who may not know
which machine they can use next. You should mention it on the download
page.

-- 
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Peter

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Re: TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vilius,

on  Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:46:54 +0200GMT (21.12.2006, 20:46 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

VŠ> Thursday, December 21, 2006, 8:03:23 PM, you wrote:

>> Yes, The Bat! is currently incompatible with Win98, but we are going to fix 
>> this.

VŠ> Again, I ask my self. When do RitLabs are going to drop support for
VŠ> legacy systems, and finally focus on long standing more important
VŠ> issues like IMAP or Unicode support?

I agree they should fix IMAP and Unicode issues, but they should *not*
drop support for Win98 - especially for Voyager. I don't know how many
systems run Win98 right now worldwide, but I guess it's a lot. Voyager
is meant to run on as many Windows machines as possible! So Win98
support is crucial.

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Re: TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Alexander,

on  Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:20:28 +0100GMT (21.12.2006, 21:20 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

ASK> on 21-Dez-2006 at 21:07 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

>> I agree they should fix IMAP and Unicode issues, but they should *not*
>> drop support for Win98 - especially for Voyager. I don't know how many
>> systems run Win98 right now worldwide, but I guess it's a lot. Voyager
>> is meant to run on as many Windows machines as possible! So Win98
>> support is crucial.

ASK> If you're going to use Voyager from a USB device on Win98 you'll need a
ASK> driver for the USB device first. :-)

True. I don't know how to overcome this except for having the driver
CD at hand. On my girlfriend's machine it is, of course, installed. :)

ASK> TB is way more complex than it used to be. I've nagged about the
ASK> performance of the newer versions compared to 3.0.x repeatedly. What
ASK> does it look like on a machine that is 8+ years old, running Win98?

3.85.03 looks and works quite the same as on XP. Everything is slower
though... ;)

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Re: 3.95.03

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:33:02 +0200GMT (22.12.2006, 20:33 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> [-] Bug with permanent main form activation under Win9x
MM> Please note that this version is not yet fully compatible with Win9x.

Thanks a lot! I'll try it on my girlfriend's machine over the
holidays. Runs fine on WinXP. Win2k test is due tomorrow. :)

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Re: 3.95.03

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:36:11 +0200GMT (22.12.2006, 22:36 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Friday, December 22, 2006, 22:23:21, you wrote:

>>>I'll try it on my girlfriend's machine over the
>>>holidays.
MM> I won't recommend - that this version is not yet fully compatible
MM> with Win9x. Please keep using 3.85 under Win9x until we resolve
MM> some issues to be fully compatible with Win9x.

Thank you Max, I'll heed the warning. Happy holidays to you and all
readers! :D

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Re: TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:37:24 +0200GMT (23.12.2006, 18:37 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Saturday, December 23, 2006, 19:26:09, you wrote:

>>>I hope this includes voyager and it's decendents.
MM> Voyager 3.86.03 is OK under Win98.

No, it isn't.

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Re: bayesit.msi

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Bob,

on  Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:39:36 -0700GMT (26.12.2006, 19:39 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

BR> Monday, December 25, 2006, 12:57:19 PM, Maxim wrote:

>>   BayesIt will be removed from The Bat! Home and Professional MSI.
>> This means that when you will install a new MSI of The Bat!, it will
>> remove BayesIt. To keep BayesIt preserved, please install
>> bayesit.msi before or after installing the new The Bat! MSI.
>>  

BR> ...

BR> My question has to do with the spam filtering plugin - I have started
BR> to use the free version of Spam Sniper for TB.  I have not used
BR> BayesIt.  Does one of you long time TB users have reasons for or
BR> against using either of those two plugins?

I have been using BayesIt for a while, until I found AntiSpamSniper. I
wouldn't want to go back. :)

AntiSpamSniper is more accurate and learns better. I use the free
version, as I don't need (or want to run the risk of) deleting the
spam on the server before downloading. I disabled BayesIt on my
previous installations each time. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.95.06 MSIs

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:44:54 +0200GMT (27.12.06, 14:44 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> [-] (#0006137) Fixed some incompatibilities with Win98 (on mail
MM> receive all temporary files go to desktop)
MM> [-] File Open/Save Dialogs didn't work under Win98 with 3.95.x
MM> [-] Windows 9x compatibility issues.

Got a chance to test it with Win98SE today, and it seems to work ok
now. Except one little quirk that appears above the main window upon
starting. See attached picture. The row above the main window
disappears after opening any menu or minimizing and maximizing again.

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Peter

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OS: Windows 98, v.4.10,Build 

win98_tb-start.png
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Re: Voyager 3.95.06

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:39:59 +0200GMT (28.12.2006, 14:39 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Please try Voyager 3.95.06 
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-95-06.exe

Works fine here at home. I'm looking forward to trying it under
Win98... :)

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Re: Voyager 3.95.06

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Mark,

on  Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:43:30 +0100GMT (29.12.2006, 16:43 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

M>> I have never tried Vogager. Is there a possibility of doing so without
M>> using OTFE?

MP> Didn't try it yet either. I've seen instructions to take over the settings
MP> from an existing TB-setup but don't know if there's a FAQ or Wiki explaining
MP> it.

No need for that! Just create a backup of The Bat! and use it after
the installation of Voyager. It is quite easy. :)

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Re: Voyager 3.95.06

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:05:04 +0100GMT I wrote:

MM>> Please try Voyager 3.95.06 
MM>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-95-06.exe

PM> Works fine here at home. I'm looking forward to trying it under
PM> Win98... :)

Runs well under Win98 except for the mini bug described in
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6136.

A happy new year to you all! :))

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Voyager: Cookies don't work any more

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

something has changed with Voyager's handling of %COOKIES. I used to
refer to the cookies.txt file by the relative path and it worked.

With the current version Voyager tells me, "Cannot open file
"tbcookies.txt"". When I put the full path in the template, it works.

But that's not an option! Voyager runs on different machines, so the
drive letter assigned to the Voyager USB stick isn't predictable, and
it differs depending on the respective computer. I cannot change my QT
any time I use Voyager on another computer.

Is there anything *I* can do to make Voyager understand the relative
path again, or is it just a bug?

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Re: Voyager: Cookies don't work any more

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Nick,

on  Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:08:04 -0600GMT (04.01.2007, 21:08 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> something has changed with Voyager's handling of %COOKIES. I used to
>> refer to the cookies.txt file by the relative path and it worked.

ND> Don't think I can confirm.

ND> I use the following in a QT:
ND> %COOKIE="%ProgramDir\smartbat\comments.txt":

ND> and it still works fine.

ND> Is that how you are referring to the relative path?

No, I didn't use %ProgramDir before. But now I do and it works fine.
That's what I was after. Thank you! :)

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Re: Voyager is adding nonsense-lines to global.ini

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Peter,

on  Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:44:06 +0100GMT (10.01.2007, 11:44 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

PH>  at work I am using Voyager which starts from an encrypted disc. I just
PH>  saw the file "global.ini" with a size of 160.000 bytes and found over
PH>  4000 - fourthousand - lines like this in it:

PH> MslOrder=L:\Voyager\images\default.msl
PH> L:\Voyager\images\pcwsmileys.msl
PH> ...
PH> . ... 4000 additional identical lines ...


PH>  I removed the lines and discovered that Voyager adds 4 to 6 lines EACH
PH>  time it exits!

PH>  - The line "L:\Voyager\images\default.msl" is not doubled.
PH>  
PH>  - The two lines "L:\Voyager\images\pcwsmileys.msl" and
PH>"L:\Voyager\images\rogues.msl" are additionally written to the .ini
PH>file as soon as Voyager exits, either 2 or 3 times, resulting in 4 to 6
PH>new lines each time.

PH> Confirmations?

Confirmed here.

PH> In addition I found a scrambled entry "ProtectDisableOpen= ..." in the
PH> global.ini file. It was spanned over 800 characters (10+ lines with word
PH> wrap turned on in the viewer). The last 4 entries were repeated several
PH> doozen times. I have no idea when this happened, because it is not
PH> reproducible with 3.95.06.

There are "only" five lines here, with "*.PIF,*.SCR,*.SHS,*.{*},"
repeated again and again. So, confirmed.

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Re: Voyager drive problem

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Martin,

on  Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:04:33 +0100GMT (13.01.2007, 14:04 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MS> I have installed Voyager 3.95.06 on a USB stick - runs quite well.

MS> The only problem: If I insert the USB stick into an other PC and the
MS> stick isn't implemented in Windows as drive "H:" Voyager doesn't start
MS> and exits with an error message.

That's strange. My Voyager is always assigned different drive letters
on different computers and it runs on any of them. hmm

You start it by double clicking voyager.exe in the file manager, don't
you? What does the error message state?

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Re: Voyager drive problem

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:14:04 -0500GMT (14.01.2007, 18:14 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> The only problem: If I insert the USB stick into an other PC and the
>> stick isn't implemented in Windows as drive "H:" Voyager doesn't start
>> and exits with an error message.

V> You must have something related to drive H: in your
V> global.ini
V> file that is in the Voyager directory.

V> Search for "H:" in that file.

But ignore the entries for .msl files, in case you have more than one.

(See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] here on TBBeta or
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6167)

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Re: Voyager drive problem

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Richard,

on  Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:33:08 +0100GMT (14.01.2007, 19:33 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MS>> So this brings me to the question: Isn't it possible to set this
MS>> plugin with a relative path? Or isn't it possible to use plugins
MS>> with Voyager at all?

RW> AntispamSniper is designed to be installed on both TB! and Voyager and,
RW> on top of that, it's a terrific programme (IMHO!).

I agree completely! There are no false positives and only a few false
negatives in The Bat! as well as in Voyager. :D

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Re: Antispamsniper (was Re: Voyager drive problem)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Alexander,

on  Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:55:34 +0100GMT (14.01.2007, 19:55 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

RW>>> AntispamSniper is designed to be installed on both TB! and Voyager
RW>>> and, on top of that, it's a terrific programme (IMHO!).

>> I agree completely! There are no false positives and only a few false
>> negatives in The Bat! as well as in Voyager. :D

ASK> I had to dump K9 because I'm using IMAP now and installed
ASK> Antispamsniper.

ASK> How much training does it take until it starts working?

Give it some training first manually. Feed it some 100 spam and ham
messages - that should suffice.

BTW, your message doesn't thread. Why's that?

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Re: Antispamsniper

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Martin,

on  Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:58:58 +0100GMT (16.01.2007, 09:58 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MS> I tried Antispamsniper - but with the USB stick something doesn't
MS> work.

MS> The installation process makes a new folder on my harddisk C:\ on the PC
MS> and there also the pluginfile *.tbp is stored.

MS> Then start Voyager on the USB stick - drive H:\ . In the Preference
MS> menu Protection - Anti-SPAM I add Antispamsniper - but then the path
MS> to the plugin is stored as C:\. Under MAIL on the stick there is a
MS> new folder "Antispamsniper".

MS> When I insert the USB stick into an other PC the plugin isn't found.

MS> What I am doing wrong?

You must install AntispamSniper to your USB stick. There is an option
"For use with Voyager" during the installation. Make sure that it is
checked. Then select "custom installation" and set the path to the
current drive letter of the USB stick.

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Re: Voyager hanging on mail check?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Nick,

on  Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:32:11 -0600GMT (18.01.2007, 20:32 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> I've been using Voyager 3.95.06 and over the last couple of days
>> noticed that TB!began hanging after a few mail checks

ND> I've been closely motoring this for the past couple of weeks and think
ND> I've come to a conclusion the problem is/was part local and part TB!.

ND> The reason TB! was hanging is that I was getting internet drops during
ND> its checks. That's the local portion of the problem. The TB! part is
ND> that once it hung up due the drop TB! never cleared itself, even with
ND> manual help in trying to abort the task. With that, there was no way
ND> to exit TB! without going into task manager and stopping it.

ND> ...

ND> So I'm calling it a non-beta issue and just a continuation of the long
ND> standing problem of TB! hanging if it runs into some kind of issue
ND> while connecting and the user being unable to affect it at that point.

Yes, it is indeed. The related BT entry is five years old.
(https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=235)

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Re: More On TBB and TBI

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Paul,

on  Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:31:17 -0500GMT (29.01.2007, 20:31 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

[thebat.tmp files]

PVN> I have been using TB since 1998 and have not ever seen a temporary
PVN> file in a message folder.

They don't appear in a message folder. Have a look at C:\Documents and
Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp - that's where they
accumulate... :(

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Automatic Update crashes TB! when not online

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

when I set The Bat! to automatically update at startup and there is no
connection available, it calls for Dr. Watson Post Mortem Debugger,
and, upon reclining, closes. The only way to start TB! again is to be
online first. This cannot be intentional behavior, or is it?

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Re: The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available

[Peter Meyns]

Hi 9Val,

on Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:15:59 +0200GMT, you wrote:

9> The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> Here is a short list of changes:
9> [-] Fixed a bug with OTFE

Seems to work well with OTFE. :)

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Re: Automatic Update crashes TB! when not online

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:10:53 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> when I set The Bat! to automatically update at startup and there is no
PM> connection available, it calls for Dr. Watson Post Mortem Debugger,
PM> and, upon reclining, closes. The only way to start TB! again is to be
PM> online first. This cannot be intentional behavior, or is it?

It is the same with 3.96.04. Windows wants to send the attached text
to Microsoft, but I don't let it. Maybe a more knowledgeable person
than me can make sense of it.

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<DATABASE>

<EXE NAME="thebat.exe" 
FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="batpgp65.dll" 
SIZE="176128" CHECKSUM="0x11040381" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8ckt - Build:09b2" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="PGP Plug-in For 
TheBat E-mail Client" 
COMPANY_NAME="Cyber Knight Templars" 
PRODUCT_NAME="PGP The Bat Plugin" 
FILE_VERSION="6.5.8ckt - Build:09b2" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="batpgp65.dll" 
INTERNAL_NAME="pgpTheBatPlugin" 
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" 
VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x2" 
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
LINK_DATE="05/29/2002 22:08:02" 
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/29/2002 22:08:02" 
VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) 
[0x409]" />

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="DelMSI.exe" 
SIZE="68088" CHECKSUM="0xF424054F" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Removes shortcuts and 
data files" COMPANY_NAME="Ritlabs 
S.R.L." PRODUCT_NAME="DelMSI" 
FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="delmsi.exe" 
INTERNAL_NAME="DelMSI" 
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright (C) 
1997-2006 RITLABS" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" 
VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x10004" 
VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" 
PE_CHECKSUM="0x185AB" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" 
UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" 
VER_LANGUAGE="Language Neutral [0x0]" 
/>

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="SSCE5132.dll" 
SIZE="145720" CHECKSUM="0x3EB39177" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="5.6" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Sentry 
Spelling-Checker Engine" 
COMPANY_NAME="Wintertree Software Inc." 
PRODUCT_NAME="Sentry Spelling-Checker 
Engine" FILE_VERSION="5.6" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="SSCE51XX.DLL" 
INTERNAL_NAME="SSCE" 
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998 
Wintertree Software Inc." 
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" 
VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x2" 
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" 
PE_CHECKSUM="0x2D8EA" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="

Voyager and anti-spam plugin

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

I use the AntispamSniper plugin with Voyager and it worked well until
recently. Now when I mark a false negative as junk, Voyager closes
with this error message:

,- [ Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ]
| Program: M:\Voyager\voyager.exe
| This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an
| unusual way.
| Please contact the application's support team for more information.
`-

When I restart Voyager I find the newly marked message in the junk
folder, where it belongs.

Any ideas?

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Re: Voyager and anti-spam plugin

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:22:57 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> I use the AntispamSniper plugin with Voyager and it worked well until
PM> recently. Now when I mark a false negative as junk, Voyager closes
PM> with this error message:

PM> ,- [ Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ]
PM> | Program: M:\Voyager\voyager.exe
PM> | This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an
PM> | unusual way.
PM> | Please contact the application's support team for more information.
PM> `-

PM> When I restart Voyager I find the newly marked message in the junk
PM> folder, where it belongs.

PM> Any ideas?

I just want to add, that the same error occurs on Win98. Is it Voyager
or AntispamSniper? Does anyone else use these together?

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Re: 3.96.05.1 (BETA)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:31:43 +0200GMT (13.02.2007, 19:31 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39605_1.rar

Starts and exits fine. No "Range check error" as of yet. Let's watch it! :)

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3.96.05.1 (BETA) crashes too

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:51:22 +0100GMT I wrote:

MM>>   http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39605_1.rar

PM> Starts and exits fine. No "Range check error" as of yet. Let's watch it! :)

I didn't have to watch long. It came out of nowhere. The Bat! was idle
except for the regular mail checking, and it simply closed down - error
report attached, instead of sent to MS... ;)

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<DATABASE>

<EXE NAME="thebat.exe" 
FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="batpgp65.dll" 
SIZE="176128" CHECKSUM="0x11040381" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8ckt - Build:09b2" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="PGP Plug-in For 
TheBat E-mail Client" 
COMPANY_NAME="Cyber Knight Templars" 
PRODUCT_NAME="PGP The Bat Plugin" 
FILE_VERSION="6.5.8ckt - Build:09b2" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="batpgp65.dll" 
INTERNAL_NAME="pgpTheBatPlugin" 
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" 
VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x2" 
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="6.5.8.0" 
LINK_DATE="05/29/2002 22:08:02" 
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/29/2002 22:08:02" 
VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) 
[0x409]" />

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="DelMSI.exe" 
SIZE="68088" CHECKSUM="0xF424054F" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Removes shortcuts and 
data files" COMPANY_NAME="Ritlabs 
S.R.L." PRODUCT_NAME="DelMSI" 
FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="delmsi.exe" 
INTERNAL_NAME="DelMSI" 
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright (C) 
1997-2006 RITLABS" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" 
VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x10004" 
VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" 
PE_CHECKSUM="0x185AB" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.86.11.0" 
LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" 
UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" 
VER_LANGUAGE="Language Neutral [0x0]" 
/>

    <MATCHING_FILE NAME="SSCE5132.dll" 
SIZE="145720" CHECKSUM="0x3EB39177" 
BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
PRODUCT_VERSION="5.6" 
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Sentry 
Spelling-Checker Engine" 
COMPANY_NAME="Wintertree Software Inc." 
PRODUCT_NAME="Sentry Spelling-Checker 
Engine" FILE_VERSION="5.6" 
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="SSCE51XX.DLL" 
INTERNAL_NAME="SSCE" 
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998 
Wintertree Software Inc." 
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" 
VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x2" 
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" 
PE_CHECKSUM="0x2D8EA" 
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" 
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.6.0.0" 
LINK_DATE

Re: Problem under Win98SE with Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:08:32 -0500GMT (18.02.2007, 14:08 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

V> I dont know if it is a bug or not...

V> So,  I first used my Voyager under Win98SE. First, it complained about
V> that  Unicode layer, good, installed. It started. When I tried to open
V> a mail in new window or make a search, the focus always jumped back to
V> the main window. Even I selected another application, the Voyager main
V> window has popped up.

V> Anyone experienced this? Under XP everything is ok.

I use Voyager on Win98SE from time to time, last time this morning,
but I never experienced a problem like this. Which version of Voyager
do you use? Here it is 3.95.06.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 3.96.09 BETA

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:48:04 +0200GMT (18.02.2007, 14:48 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39609.rar

MM> [*] Added better on-exit-exception loggers

Good thing! Hope we'll never need it... ;-)

Runs fine here so far. :)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
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Re: Problem under Win98SE with Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:00:17 -0500GMT (18.02.2007, 17:00 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> Which version of Voyager do you use? Here it is 3.95.06.

V> 3.86.03.  I  did  not  upgrade as 3.9x.x did not seem to be stable for
V> me...

Maybe you should give it a try. It works reliably here on XP, 2K and
98SE. What leads you to the assumption it were unstable, when you
didn't even try?

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Problem under Win98SE with Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:00:17 -0500GMT (18.02.2007, 17:00 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

V> 3.86.03.  I  did  not  upgrade as 3.9x.x did not seem to be stable for
V> me...

I must add, I quickly forget when everything works fine. hmm

Look for the thread starting with
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] here on TBBeta. I had
the same problem with 3.86.03 last December, and I learned from Maxim
that Voyager was incompatible with Win98 in that version. But it isn't
any more, so you better upgrade and all will be fine. :)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Problem under Win98SE with Voyager

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:24:52 -0500GMT (18.02.2007, 17:24 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> What leads you to the assumption it were unstable, when you didn't
>> even try?

V> Reading the BETA posts about the v3.9x series... I dont want  to have
V> AVs, etc.

I see. I only had those on my PC, not with Voyager. You should try
anyway. See my recent post.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: HTML mail

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:35:26 -0500GMT (20.02.2007, 20:35 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

V> I got an HTML mail with a link in it. Selected the text and the link,
V> Ctrl+V in a new mail... Just an empty box appeared. Bug or lack of
V> feature?

You forgot to Ctrl+C after selecting.? ;)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Plugin support crumbling? (was: Antispamsniper for The Bat! not working in 3.96.08 and 3.96.09)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Roger,

on  Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:38:08 +0200GMT (22.02.2007, 09:38 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

RP> At  my  installation  here,  ASS  worked  successfully  in TB versions up to
RP> 3.96.07, but fails in both 3.96.08 and 3.96.09. The problem seems to be that
RP> ASS  does  not  close properly after a mail download has completed, with the
RP> result thereafter that its staus is marked as "In error" and it will not run
RP> again.

RP> To  cure  the  problem I have to shut down and restart the computer and then
RP> reinstall ASS.

I didn't have any problems with ASS, free version, yet.

But I'm having problems with other plugins.

A while ago I used K9, which started, but didn't close any more with
The Bat! - I don't remember which version it was. I worked around it
with PowerPro.

Next was MyGate, which stopped starting with The Bat!, but when
started otherwise, it was closed along with The Bat!. Since a short
time ago - it may very well have been v3.96.08 - it neither starts nor
closes and I have to start and close it manually, respectively with a
PowerPro script. :( On Voyager 3.95.06 it doesn't start via plugin,
but at least it closes.

I think, Melanie is on the right trail. Something with the support of
plugins seems to go awry in the Vista versions of TB!...

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.10 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Plugin support crumbling?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Alexander,

on  Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:59:28 +0100GMT (23.02.2007, 19:59 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

ASK> on Friday, February 23, 2007 at 19:04 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

>> I didn't have any problems with ASS, free version, yet.

ASK> Now, if you look at that without the context...

ASK> LOL

Why should anyone not look at the context? I'm missing the joke, I'm
afraid... hmm

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.96.10 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



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Re: Drive

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Roland,

on Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:20:08 +0100GMT, you wrote:

RB> how is it possible to select a drive for the installation of
RB> 3.98.1 MSI? I have TheBat not on drive C but on drive D!

Choose "Custom" installation instead of "Default". Then you can
select the destination. You must have done it before, because
otherwise your TB! directory wouldn't be on drive D: now... :-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.1 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



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Re: Is Voyager a Beta?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Eddie,

on Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:46:45 +0100GMT, you wrote:

EC> Just two small questions: [1] is Voyager still a beta? If yes which
EC> one is the last stable version? And [2] could you please post me the
EC> direct link?

I don't know if we should consider Voyager a beta. The version that
works pretty well here on Win98, 2K, XP is 3.95.06. You can get it at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/voyager_install-3-95-06.exe

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.1 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Two thebat.exe processes...

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Vili,

on  Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:46:29 -0500GMT (27.02.2007, 20:46 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

V> Starting from the MSI release (I did not notice before), I have two
V> thebat.exe processes in TaskMan. Using Exchange and POP accounts...

V> Anyone else?

Not here. I have a lot of POP accounts, but no Exchange.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.1 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.96.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Voyager 3.98.6

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:46:16 +0200GMT (23.03.07, 16:46 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Could you please try Voyager 3.98.6 from
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-3-98-06.exe

Thanks, I did. I had an error message after installation similar to
the one Marek mentioned, but after that Voyager starts and runs quite
fine.

MM> [-] Windows 9x compatibility issues.

Yes indeed. Even the ugly extra menu bar at the top is gone now! :)
(https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6136)

But Voyager *still* writes to the registry regardless of the OS. :-(
(https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! Voyager v3.98.6
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP
OS: Windows 98,
v.4.10,Build 



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Re: Voyager 3.98.6

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:34:56 +0700GMT, you wrote:

TF>>> would expect Voyager to leave no traces.

PVN>> Me too.

TF> I think there is a bugreport in the BT somewhere. Can you locate it? I
TF> would like to add a comment.

It's here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5515

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.1 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: File saving

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Nick,

on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:39:13 -0700GMT, you wrote:

NA> I'm new to the List after a long absence from TB, and was wondering where I
NA> could obtain TB v3.98.10?

Welcome back. It is here:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39810.rar

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.10 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.98.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: File saving

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Nick,

on Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:28:11 -0700GMT (11.04.2007, 20:28 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

NA> Peter, is there some reason these newer Beta's are not posted on the RitLabs
NA> Beta site?

I don't know. Ritlabs' policies are not so easy to find out...

NA> BTW, is Marck and Allie still around?

Sure, although Allie resigned as a moderator.

NA> How have you been doing?

Fine, a lot of changes, but that's completely OT here... :D

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.98.10 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.98.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 3.99.3 MSIs

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:08:10 +0300GMT (24.04.2007, 14:08 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Could you please test 3.99.3 MSIs:

Installed fine over the previous version and works well so far.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.3 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Voyager 3.99.8

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on  Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:14:13 +0700GMT (01.06.2007, 15:14 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>> What's new in The Bat! Voyager 3.99.8 comparing to The Bat! Voyager 3.99.4?

TF> Does it still leave entries in the host computer's registry?

Yes, it does. :-(

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! Voyager v3.99.8
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP
OS: Windows XP, v.5.1,Build 2600



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Voyager with GnuPG/PGP

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Miroslav,

on  Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:24:32 +0200GMT (23.06.2007, 11:24 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MF> it's not really a beta related questions, but I become still mad.

MF> I would like to run Voyager with GnuPG or PGP. I have tested different
MF> instructions [1], but I cannot bring Voyager to work with PGP/GnuPG -
MF> Voyager doesn't recognize GnuPG.

MF> Does anybody use Voyager together with GnuPG/PGP and could help me?
MF> Perhaps there is a workaround...

Yes I do. I use GPG2GO - have a look at
http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/mbgpg2go/intro.html

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Voyager with GnuPG/PGP

[Peter Meyns]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Miroslav,

on  Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:11:44 +0200GMT (23.06.2007, 15:11 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

>> Yes I do. I use GPG2GO - have a look at
>> http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/mbgpg2go/intro.html

MF> I tried this, but unfortunately Voyager does not recognize the GnuPG
MF> files.

You are right. I forgot that GPG2GO only works from the command line.
It is indeed a bit cumbersome, but it works. I read that there is
GPGshell for removable devices available, but I haven't tried it yet.

- -- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! Voyager v3.99.8
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP
OS: Windows XP,
v.5.1,Build 2600
'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32)
Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org

iD8DBQFGfTZqAzZSBuEHdM4RA2MBAJ447L+FRjhHJzJOfcctG1abZv8B7gCgjEi0
GpQzLbXYcWcgrVJukRCuxkg=
=BjSg
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Voyager with GnuPG/PGP

[Peter Meyns]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: RIPEMD160

Hi Maxim,

on  Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:55:02 +0300GMT (23.06.2007, 16:55 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>>>I tried this, but unfortunately Voyager does not recognize the GnuPG
>>>files.
MM> Most probably if Voyager doesn't recognize GnuPG then The Bat!
MM> won't have recognized it as well.

That's right. But I wouldn't expect The Bat! to be installed on a
random machine, where I'm allowed to use Voyager...

MM> Did you make sure that gnupg executable is in the %PATH% environment 
variable?

I can't usually install gpg on a friend's machine, unless it's already
there, can I?

- -- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! Voyager v3.99.8
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP
OS: Windows XP,
v.5.1,Build 2600
'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32)
Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org

iD8DBQFGfULdAzZSBuEHdM4RAyjeAJwLe8MemzCUOb/QKTz3icJafU5+mgCg+hQQ
jWbIiJykhUcaPjgzC7ikJIo=
=Fj5j
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.09 beta

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:10:59 +0300GMT (27.06.2007, 18:10 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39909.rar

Running fine so far, but something is messed up with the Rogues
feature. When the last viewed message contained a Rogue picture and I
switch to another folder's message that has no X-Rogue assigned, the
previous pic doesn't go away but stays on every message until I find
one with a new X-Rogue header. It occurs only when switching folders.

Besides, the version number in Help -- About should definitely be
3.99.09 instead of the actual 3.99.9. And it should be marked as a
beta.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.09 beta

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Zygmunt,

on  Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:52:18 +0200GMT (27.06.2007, 19:52 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> Running fine so far, but something is messed up with the Rogues
>> feature. When the last viewed message contained a Rogue picture and I
>> switch to another folder's message that has no X-Rogue assigned, the
>> previous pic doesn't go away but stays on every message until I find
>> one with a new X-Rogue header. It occurs only when switching folders.

ZW> Confirmed, but this error disappeared after The Bat! restart.

Not here. hmm

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB 3.99.09 - Problems with minimisation

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Zygmunt,

on  Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:56:02 +0200GMT (27.06.2007, 19:56 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

ZW> Main window of The Bat! does not minimise to the Windows task bar. It is
ZW> minimised to the lower left corner of the screen, just above the task bar.

Not here. Maybe it is OTFE-related.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB 3.99.09 - Problems with minimisation

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Peter,

on  Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:31:54 +0200GMT (28.06.2007, 12:31 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

PH> I have to take that back and must confirm Zygmunts report.

PH> It is only visible if "Minimize to system tray" is not checked.

In that case, yes, confirmed here too.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: HTML Images wrong?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Steven,

on  Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:42:31 -0400GMT (28.06.2007, 14:42 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

SPV> When I send HTML formatted messages...

I'm sorry, I can't comment on this, but I can help you with one point:

SPV> By using Thunderbird's "View Message Source" command (I
SPV> wish I could find /that/ in The BAT!), I compared the
SPV> original message from The Bat! and the one from GMail...

You can get the message source in The Bat! by hitting .

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Rogue pics don't go away when I switch to another folder

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

when I view a message that contains an X-Rogue header and switch to
another folder, the picture will persist until I find a message with
another X-Rogue header. This occurs only when I switch to another
folder.

I created a BT entry: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6388

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Spam Filter

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Rick,

on  Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:18:33 -0400GMT (13.07.2007, 16:18 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

RG> I think I wall ask this here.
RG> What is the best spam plugin that will work with the current version?

I use AntispamSniper, free version, and I'm fully content with it.
There are a few false negatives every now and then, but there hasn't
been a false positive in quite a long time.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Dispatch messages on server...

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Graham,

on  Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:58:56 + (UTC)GMT (18.07.2007, 20:58 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

GF> Doesn't work for me with gmail accounts. I've tried all messages and all new
GF> messages - all that happens is a regular e-mail check, no listing of the my
GF> gmail account messages. Is this a gmail thing?

Maybe. I don't use gmail.

GF> WOuld it work ok on std POP (I'm using 3.99.9)

It does here. One freemailer and my domain provider.


-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Wrong cursor placement when replying

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Peter,

on  Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:29:25 +0200GMT (21.07.2007, 13:29 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

RO>> When you post a bugtrack entry, I'll confirm it.

PH> Done. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6396

I think it is the same as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6387.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.9 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Beta .10: icon is gone

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim and all,

in this version the icon is missing. When I minimize TB! there is no
way to restore it except for hitting +B, which is set here to
minimize or restore The Bat! as a global shortcut. I get an error
window though:

,- [ The Bat! ]
| Cannot create shell notification icon.
`-

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.10 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Intpack Update

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:14:43 +0300GMT (05.08.2007, 20:14 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>   We have updated the IntPack, could you please intall
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-5.msi

I installed it, and it seems to work well (so far) for the German
language. By the way, there is no translation for "Cannot create
shell notification icon." ;-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.10 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Rogues (was: The Bat! 3.99.11 BETA)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on  Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:41:49 +0200GMT (08.08.2007, 17:41 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> You should stop testing betas, if You have problem, they are buggy... I can
MM> understand, You will write about major problems, but rogues?

As long as they are offered AND don't work properly, they are, IMHO, a
considerable problem. Not necessarily a major problem, but, well,
considerable. :-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.11 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Cannot Create Shell Notification Icon

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Thu, 9 Aug 2007 20:09:48 +0300GMT (09.08.2007, 19:09 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Thursday, August 09, 2007, 20:07:35, you wrote:

>>>"Cannot Create Shell Notification Icon" has been with us for 3
>>>versions. I get it when I MINIMIZE the bat, still leaving the bat
>>>loaded. I must delete it from the Task manager 


>>>In v 13 I keep getting this error - the bat is minimized and the error 
>>>continues unless I access it with 

MM> Which settings are you using? How can I reproduce this problem?
MM> Please help. Thank you in advance.

See the thread starting with
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] here on TBBeta.
Should I add it to BT anyway?

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.11 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Cannot Create Shell Notification Icon

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:25:35 +0200GMT I wrote:

"Cannot Create Shell Notification Icon" has been with us for 3
versions. I get it when I MINIMIZE the bat, still leaving the bat
loaded. I must delete it from the Task manager 


In v 13 I keep getting this error - the bat is minimized and the error 
continues unless I access it with 

MM>> Which settings are you using? How can I reproduce this problem?
MM>> Please help. Thank you in advance.

PM> See the thread starting with
PM> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] here on TBBeta.
PM> Should I add it to BT anyway?

I did: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6410

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.13 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Cannot Create Shell Notification Icon

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Rick,

on  Thu, 9 Aug 2007 14:06:15 -0400GMT (09.08.2007, 20:06 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> See the thread starting with
>> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] here
>> on TBBeta.
>> Should I add it to BT anyway?

RG> I can't use that URL to pull up a thread so please add it

Why can't you? The Bat! usually handles MIDs well. *shrug*

You can search for the subject though in your TBBeta folder:

Beta .10: icon is gone

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.13 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: 3.99.13 BETA

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Hendrik,

on Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:51:35 +1100GMT (10.08.2007, 07:51 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

HO> "Maxim Masiutin" wrote on 10/08/2007 at 03:53:55 +1100 
HO> subject "3.99.13 BETA" :

>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39913.rar

HO> No logo is shown in taskbar and top of main window. Only the generic
HO> "Windows"-Logo is visible.

HO> Somebody else here with Win2000?

Yes, confirmed with Win2K. With XP the logo vanishes altogether when
there are unread messages.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.13 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Thanks

[Peter Meyns]

Hi 9Val,

on  Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:46:03 +0300GMT (13.08.2007, 18:46 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

9>   I'm  not  working on TB! for a long time and now I'm leaving RitLabs
9>   at all.

Sorry to see you go. It was always nice to work with you! I hope you
have found something really better. :)

9>   So...  I  would  like  to say "Thank you" for every beta-tester I've
9>   ever worked.

Thank you too! :))

9>   Special thanks to:
9>   
9>   Marek Mikus - "The best" tester and helper in development
9>   Boris Anders & Peter Ouwehand - perfect tracking of todo-lists
9>   MAU  - uuhh, irony and life-style I'd like to study  
9>   Mary   Bull  &  Charlene  Ferrara - could we exist without women?  
9>   Marck  D Pearlstone & Roelof Otten & Leif Gregory & Allie Martin for
9>   moderating (sometimes very stormy) list

9>   Thanks! And may be see you later  

That would be fine. All my best wishes for your future! :yes:

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.8 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.14 BETA

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:44:29 +0300GMT (15.08.2007, 21:44 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39914.rar

MM> [-] (#0006410) Minimizing TB! causes an error AND icons don't work properly

Works here now. Thanks!

MM> [-] (#0006409) "Flying" icon is not displayed in Systray when is at least 
one unread message

Also OK now.

Not yet fixed:

[The Bat 0006388]: Rogue pics don't go away when I switch to another folder
[The Bat 0006396]: Wrong cursor placement when replying to a message

These are the first ones I encountered, I'll see into it more deeply
tomorrow. :-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.14 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.14 BETA

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marck,

on  Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:20:47 +0100GMT (15.08.2007, 22:20 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MDP> An aside about running TB from the tooltray. Am I suffereing from some
MDP> kind of fuzzy memory, but didn't there used to be a system Hotkey for
MDP> summoning TB from the tooltray? Okay - yes, there really was one and I
MDP> use it extensively. It has vanished, no longer worts and doesn't even
MDP> appear on the Hotkey config screen.

Yes indeed. I also miss +B which was available up to 3.99.08.

MDP> Was the removal of this functionality a conscious decision? Did I miss
MDP> a note about it happening? Or was it an accidental casualty of the
MDP> recent change in component libraries? Whichever may be the cause, I'd
MDP> rather like it back.

I strongly support your wish!

MDP> Any confirmation? Denial? Ridicule? I'm open to any of them.

Confirmation. :)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.14 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Sometimes Rogue stays in its position, when I maximize main window from Normal state

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on  Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:06:07 +0200GMT (16.08.2007, 19:06 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Hello,
MM> today I have discovered interesting behaviour - when is main widnow in
MM> Normal state and is selected message which contains Rogue, Rogue is
MM> displayed correctly at the end of Message Header pane. But when I maximize
MM> main window, sometimes image stays on this position and is not moved to
MM> end of "longer" Message Header pane.

Not confirmed here. Here the pic moves when I change the window size.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.14 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: beta/17

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:26:14 +0300GMT (19.08.2007, 21:26 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39917.rar

MM> [-] (#0006388) Sender's photos didn't go away when the user switched to 
another folder

Confirm fixed. At last! :))

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.17 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

MyGate - invalid pointer operation

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

I have been using MyGate with The Bat! for years. It is still working,
but since 3.99.17 there is a disturbance. Some time during fetching
mails, an error window appears:

,- [ MyGate ]
| Invalid pointer operation
| 
| [OK]
`-

After that, MyGate's normal icon in the system tray is gone, but
hovering over the empty space where it used to be reveals the tooltip
"MyGate" and I can access it as normal. It still fetches posts from
newsgroups, showing the "fetch" icon, so the functionality is not
(yet) affected.

I'm just afraid that over all the Vista efforts the good old features
may get broken, which would be too bad for me in regard to MyGate. I
have so much gotten used to using The Bat! as a newsreader, that it
would be very bad if this possibility would cease.

So please, developers, don't let MyGate die. I know it isn't supported
any more by its author, nor is it your premium task to keep old
third-party plugins working, but in this case, please do! :)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.17 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: MyGate - invalid pointer operation

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Maxim,

on  Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:26:01 +0300GMT (20.08.2007, 19:26 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Monday, August 20, 2007, 18:51:42, you wrote:

>>>I have been using MyGate with The Bat! for years. It is still working,
>>>but since 3.99.17 there is a disturbance. Some time during fetching
>>>mails, an error window appears:

MM> We didn't change anything that might have affected MyGate. Could
MM> you please test now any previous version of The Bat! with MyGage?

I'm sorry, no, I can't right now. I'll be on a one-week holiday trip
from tomorrow on, but I'll have my notebook with me to watch the lists
via modem. :)

I did test most of the previous versions - always with MyGate - and
this minor error occurred only now.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.17 on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Right mouse button on SYSTRAY icon restores The Bat! main window

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:27:56 +0200GMT (23.08.2007, 14:27 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Hello,
MM> when  is  TB  minimized  and  I use RMB on systray icon for opening contect
MM> menu, TB main window is restored with opening context menu.

MM> Reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6443

It is a liitlle different on Win2K: when I right-click the icon of TB!
the context menu appears, but it doesn't go away when I click anywhere
else. I have to select anything from the menu to make it disappear.
Tested with .20 and .21.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB freezes when is not running and is opened from MSG/EML

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:54:47 +0200GMT (25.08.2007, 14:54 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Hello,
MM> I have associated MSG and EML to TB and closed it, so TB is not running.

MM> When I open MSG or EML file from disc, TB is opened, but freezes before
MM> opening message in viewer.

MM> Anybody can confirm?

Does not happen here. TB! asks for the password, then opens the
message and runs well in the background.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB freezes when is not running and is opened from MSG/EML

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:54:47 +0200GMT (25.08.2007, 14:54 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Hello,
MM> I have associated MSG and EML to TB and closed it, so TB is not running.

MM> When I open MSG or EML file from disc, TB is opened, but freezes before
MM> opening message in viewer.

MM> Anybody can confirm?

Does not happen here. TB! asks for the password, then opens the
message and runs well in the background.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Delete msgs on server broken?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

my PC at home and this notebook are both set to leave messages on the
server for 21 days. Now I found that the messages on the server date
back up to July 30. Obviously they aren't routinely deleted any more
since last Monday.

Has anyone else observed this?

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195,
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Issue with mailbox

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Indie_Dev,

on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:02:42 -0400GMT (26.08.2007, 20:02 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be
>> faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination.

I> Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly?

It is supposed to find lost folders. Sometimes it does, sometimes it
doesn't. Always worthwhile a try. Note, that the focus must be on the
folder pane for this shortcut to work.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled
Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Delete msgs on server broken?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:36:43 +0200GMT I wrote:

PM> my PC at home and this notebook are both set to leave messages on the
PM> server for 21 days. Now I found that the messages on the server date
PM> back up to July 30. Obviously they aren't routinely deleted any more
PM> since last Monday.

PM> Has anyone else observed this?

I have tried it on my home PC and deleting of messages works as it
should. I upgraded my notebook to v3.99.24 and tried there (yes, I
decreased the number of days for the test) and it doesn't work there.
The differences I'm aware of are WinXP Pro SP2, no OTFE, versus Win2K,
OTFE.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

CC: scrolling affects text

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

the Connection Centre shows strange behaviour: when I scroll down and
back, I get the text lines lined-out. See attachment. Has anyone also
seen that?

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM<>
 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: CC: scrolling affects text

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Hendrik,

on  Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:34:16 +1100GMT (03.09.2007, 06:34 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

HO> "Peter Meyns" wrote on 03/09/2007 at 03:16:13 +1100 
HO> subject "CC: scrolling affects text" :

>> the Connection Centre shows strange behaviour: when I scroll down and
>> back, I get the text lines lined-out. See attachment. Has anyone also
>> seen that?

HO> Confirmed

I created a BT entry: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6469

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Attached files not displayed in attachment pane (3.99.24)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Hendrik,

on  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:34:36 +1100GMT (05.09.2007, 04:34 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

HO> "Maxim Masiutin" wrote on 31/08/2007 at 04:57:47 +1100 
HO> subject "3.99.24" :

>>   We have put 3.99.24 to
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

>>   If we will find major bugs there, we will update the version at the page.

HO> If there is an eml file attached to an new message and if this eml
HO> file contains an attachment it is not displayed.

HO> Steps to reproduce:
HO> 1.) select the "0001.EML" tab at the bottom of this massage
HO> 2.) the attachement pane is displayed, but the attached file
HO> "Document.odt" is not visible

HO> Confirmations?

Confirmed, when I use the 0001.EML tab at the bottom. When I open
it from the attachment pane, Document.odt is shown and opens in
OpenOffice (now that is a huge smiley!).

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Connection Centre again

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

when I receive a large message, the Connection Centre displays
nonsense about the data transfer and the estimated time. My
attachments show CC and NOD32 while downloading the same mail. The
display of CC is totally worthless.

I wouldn't have seen this at all, if I hadn't to work with a 56k modem
ATM... hmm

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600,
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM<><>
 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Connection Centre again

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:30:29 +0200GMT I wrote:

PM> when I receive a large message, the Connection Centre displays
PM> nonsense about the data transfer and the estimated time.

One more quirk with CC:

I use TB! for news groups with MyGate, and there the Connection Centre
shows each currently incoming post with the size of 3077 kB.

Maybe that's what scrolling down and up again is useful for: you won't
see this nonsense any more. ;-)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Connection Centre again

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Marek,

on  Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:22:28 +0200GMT (05.09.2007, 21:22 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM> Wednesday, September 5, 2007, Peter Meyns wrote:

>> when I receive a large message, the Connection Centre displays
>> nonsense about the data transfer and the estimated time. My
>> attachments show CC and NOD32 while downloading the same mail. The
>> display of CC is totally worthless.

>> I wouldn't have seen this at all, if I hadn't to work with a 56k modem
>> ATM...  

MM> as I think, TB receives no data from NOD32, when is NOD32 downloading them,
MM> because AFAIK it sends data to program when they are completed and clean.

Thank you. This may well be the case and it's a plausible explanation.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Message lost when aborting a send

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Roger,

on  Sun, 9 Sep 2007 05:43:58 +0200GMT (09.09.2007, 05:43 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MM>> if You have autosave message enabled in editor Preferences, You can check
MM>> "Folder | Browse deleted messages" in Outbox to view all previously stored
MM>> message versions.
RP> In my version I cannot find any item called 'autosave'.

It is under Options » Preferences » Viewer/Editor » Editor preferences

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB v4 outlook....

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Martin,

on  Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:28:04 +0200GMT (15.09.2007, 15:28 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

MS> I use a separate news client. When I want to send mails it always is a
MS> little bit messy - and more when you have to use more than one
MS> e-mail-client on a computer. So I manually have to copy paste to send
MS> a mail from news. What happens when there is an attachment. Okay, I
MS> have to save it and add it. Not very nice.

You can use The Bat! as a news reader already with the MyGate plugin.
It is no longer developed by its author, but it works. You can get it
here:
http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlink&cid=27

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB v4 outlook....

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Paul,

on  Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:30:54 -0400GMT (15.09.2007, 18:30 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

PM>> You can use The Bat! as a news reader already with the MyGate plugin.
PM>> It is no longer developed by its author, but it works. You can get it
PM>> here:
PM>> http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlink&cid=27

PVN> Opera works great too and is a more appropriate choice IMO.

I don't know. I am only subscribed to 6 or 7 news groups with a daily
average of 80 to 150 posts. That works well with The Bat! and MyGate,
even with a 56k modem, which I am temporarily forced to use. :)

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Problems with Bugtracker and Beta website

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Volker,

on  Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:59:04 +0200GMT (21.09.2007, 11:59 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

VA> What happened to the TB! bugtracker and Beta website?

VA> 

=>> "Not Found
VA>The requested URL /bt/ was not found on this server.

VA>Apache/1.3.39 Server at www.ritlabs.com Port 80"

Confirmed. I get a 404 too.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: SPF for thebat.net

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on  Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:00:02 +0700GMT (08.10.2007, 18:00 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

TF> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:50:15 -0400 GMT (08/10/2007, 22:50 +0700 GMT),
TF> Peter Gannushkin wrote:

>>> Is thebat.net blocking itself?

PG>> That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm
PG>> not sure why.

TF> Then why did Ritlabs choose Gmail? I was planning to use that address
TF> for my five TB! mailing lists. Looks like the attempt is futile.

You can work around it by filtering your sent mail to the list folder.
You won't know however, if or when your message made it to the list.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.24 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.99.27 without ASLR

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Henk,

on  Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:07:55 +0200GMT (26.10.2007, 08:07 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-27.msi
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-27.msi
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-27.msi
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-27.msi

HMdB> With this version Antispamsniper stopped working  

Confirmed. Plus: there is an additional pair of ASS icons (mark as
spam/not spam) in my toolbar.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

The Bat! v3.99.27 :beta: on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600
plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled
AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM



 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html