Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Mark Partous

Hello MAU,

Monday, December 2, 2013, 6:33:26 PM, you wrote:

M> I use Second Copy since many years ago for all my backups and
M> synchronizations (whether for email, photos, databases or whatever) and
M> has always been 100% reliable. Not like built-in 'backup & restore'
M> functionality in many applications.

I also use it for TB!, but for documents I prefer "Beyond Sync".

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread MAU
Hello MFPA,

> my Gmail account ignores the settings I have in TB! about leaving on
> or deleting from server.

That's right. Gmail just does what you select in Settings->Forwarding
and POP/IMAP->POP Download->2.When messages are accessed with POP:

I have it set to "delete Gmail's copy". That way, I can see end send 
email from my phone or tablet, but received messages will only be 
deleted when I access my account from TB!. 

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread MAU
Hello Chris,

> I would rather use Second Copy to move the latest master copy across
> to other PC's.

+1 100%

I use Second Copy since many years ago for all my backups and
synchronizations (whether for email, photos, databases or whatever) and
has always been 100% reliable. Not like built-in 'backup & restore'
functionality in many applications.

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:58:36 + GMT (02-Dec-13, 21:58 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

>> My solution is to leave all messages on the server, so
>> that each computer downloads all messages. I use POP
>> only.

> Does this work with the "@thebat.net" email account you use for
> posting to this list? I ask because "@thebat.net" is a "managed" 
> Gmail account, and my Gmail account ignores the settings I have in TB!
> about leaving on or deleting from server. I've not actually checked 
> for my "@thebat.net" address but assumed the same would happen, sinnce
> the backend is all google.

I have 13 email accounts. I don't check all of them on all machines.
This "@thebat.net" account is one that I check only on this machine
(my home computer).

Therefore, I cannot answer your question. What I described works for
the accounts I share between computers.

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 2 December 2013 at 1:19:26 PM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:


> My solution is to leave all messages on the server, so
> that each computer downloads all messages. I use POP
> only.

Does this work with the "@thebat.net" email account you use for
posting to this list? I ask because "@thebat.net" is a "managed" 
Gmail account, and my Gmail account ignores the settings I have in TB! 
about leaving on or deleting from server. I've not actually checked 
for my "@thebat.net" address but assumed the same would happen, sinnce 
the backend is all google.

> I BCC all outgoing messages to myself.

A cunning plan.

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Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Chasonek,

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:19:56 -0800GMT Chasonek wrote:

C>   I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this.
C>   I do most of my work at home on my desktop computer, then I need
C>   to  move all the TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
C>   the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I get home.
C>   I am hoping to do this with a very painless operation.

For me the easiest way ist POP and IMAP on the desktop PC and IMAP on all other
devices like smartphones (yes, I use two of them), tablets and laptops.

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Fred
> I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this. I do most of my work
> at home on my desktop computer, then I need to move all the TheBat!
> information to the laptop, when I am on the road, then when I get back to
> the desktop when I get home. I am hoping to do this with a very painless
> operation.

Hi, Chasonek.

What I do (for a similar situation, except that the laptop is used most of
the time, while the desktop is used only occasionally) is similar to what
MFPA has suggested.

Upon installing The Bat on the newer machine, I made a backup on the older
machine, copied it over to the newer machine, and imported. (And, whenever
I've changed settings, I do the same sort of thing, but export and import
just the settings.)

However, my requirements are not terribly stringent, requiring that both
The Bat installations have exactly the same message bases, so I keep them
"more or less" synchronized by:

1. Keeping incoming mail on the server (for a week).

2. When sending an email, I routinely send myself a BCC, so that I end up
having a copy on both machines of what I sent (at least the BCC).

3. To avoid excessive BCC clutter, I don't send a BCC to myself for a
simple email (a quick thank you, for example) or for a list post (such as
this email I am typing "as we speak").

So, as long as I download email on each machine at least once a week, I
don't miss any incoming mail (including BCC's of my own messages).

Works for me - YMMV. (As I said, my requirements for having identical
message bases is not stringent - the two bases only have to be similar.)

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Chris Wilson
> Hello Group,
>   I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this.
>   I do most of my work at home on my desktop computer, then I need
>   to  move all the TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
>   the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I get home.
>   I am hoping to do this with a very painless operation.

>   



02 December 2013


I believe the "Synchronize" menu allows this, but if it works like
backup and restore I would rather use Second Copy to move the latest
master copy across to other PC's. Frankly, I wouldn't trust
"Synchronize" unless a raft of current users said it was 100%
trustworthy, after some disasters with Backup and Restore. I have to
say that I am a bit perturbed that Ritlabs see fit to release V6.* at
the moment it seems so far from prime time. It doesn't inspire
confidence, to be frank. Was it to meet the perceived Christmas
marketplace?

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chasonek,

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:19:56 -0800 GMT (02-Dec-13, 15:19 +0700 GMT),
Chasonek wrote:

> Hello Group,
>   I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this.
>   I do most of my work at home on my desktop computer, then I need
>   to  move all the TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
>   the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I get home.
>   I am hoping to do this with a very painless operation.

I'm in a similar situation: I do most of my work on the office
computer, then work on my home computer, and then travel and use my
laptop.

My solution is to leave all messages on the server, so that each
computer downloads all messages. I use POP only.

One computer is the main computer for each account, for example the
office computer for the business account, the home computer for the
private account. The main computer for each account is set to "leave
messages on server for 14 days". (The laptop is just a backup for
travelling, it does not delete any messages from the server.)

So all incoming mails are on all computers. How about outgoing mails?

I BCC all outgoing messages to myself. Therefore, if I send a message
from computer A, it will be received back on computer A and I filter
only incoming messages. It will also be received by computers B and C.
So the whole conversations are complete on each computer.

I never look at or use the Sent folder. I have no need to move the
whole message base back and forth, as each computer has the whole
message base.

Others might suggest IMAP.

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Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Monday 2 December 2013 at 8:19:56 AM, in
, Chasonek wrote:


> Hello Group,   I was hoping that there was a simple
> answer to this.   I do most of my work at home on
> my desktop computer, then I need   to  move all the
> TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
> the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I
> get home.   I am hoping to do this with a very
> painless operation.  



If you are using TB! Professional, the licence includes TB! Voyager, 
which may suit your needs.

Otherwise (if you have TB! installed on your laptop as well as on your 
desktop), you could create a backup on your desktop pc and "restore" 
it on your laptop before you go, and the reverse after you get back. 

If you use POP, make sure you don't download or create messages on
your desktop pc while the "live" mailbase is on your laptop, or those
messages may be lost when you restore the backup you created from your
laptop at the end of the trip.

If you are using IMAP, the messagebase is on the server rather than 
your PC so you only need to copy across the account settings to your 
laptop's copy of TB! or Voyager.


By the way, it is easier for people to help you if they know which TB!
and Windows versions you are using, and whether you use POP or IMAP.

To report the TB! and Windows versions you are using, I would suggest
adding the following to the templates you use with this list:-

Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-
%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %-
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION%-


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SV: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Mogens Holst
Have you considered placing all your bat-files in Dropbox?

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Emne: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

Hello Group,
  I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this.
  I do most of my work at home on my desktop computer, then I need
  to  move all the TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
  the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I get home.
  I am hoping to do this with a very painless operation.

  

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Desktop To Laptop And Back Again

2013-12-02 Thread Chasonek
Hello Group,
  I was hoping that there was a simple answer to this.
  I do most of my work at home on my desktop computer, then I need
  to  move all the TheBat! information to the laptop, when I am on
  the road, then when I get back to the desktop when I get home.
  I am hoping to do this with a very painless operation.

  

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