Re: F20 display problems

2013-10-12 Thread Robert M. Albrecht

Hi,

there seems to be an upstream kernel bug which kills external displays 
on UEFI systems.


https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59841

cu romal


Am 13.10.13 07:15, schrieb Robert M. Albrecht:

Hi,

I installed F20 which is running fine in general. But there is one
topic, I don't understand if and where there is a problem.

I'm using a laptop.

- Booting and using mobile on battery is fine.
- Booting at home (power) is fine.
- Booting if office (docking station, power, external display) is messed
up.

Office:

- system lid closed: grub shows up on external display, after that
nothing happens. Internal and external display are black. No plymouth,
no gdm, ... remote login via ssh works

- system lod open: grub shows up on internal display, everything works.

If I disable the GNOMEs user-autologin and clode the lid I would expect
the system to boot up and show up on the external display, this does not
happen.

Autologin seems only to work, when LID is open.

Logging in via ssh and trying to figure out, what is happening seems to be

x.org does not bring up any errors and seems to get the correct external
display and resolutions:

[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "DEL", prod id 41047
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "2560x1440"x0.0  241.50  2560 2608
2640 2720  1440 1443 1448 1481 +hsync -vsync (88.8 kHz eP)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  148.50  1920 2008
2052 2200  1080 1082 1087 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080i"x0.0   74.25  1920 2008
2052 2200  1080 1084 1094 1125 interlace +hsync +vsync (33.8 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x720"x0.0   74.25  1280 1390
1430 1650  720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync (45.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x480"x0.0   27.00  720 736 798
858  480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968
1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720
840  480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752
800  480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846
900  400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296
1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040
1136 1312  768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048
1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896
1056  600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x800"x0.0   83.50  1280 1352
1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync (49.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  146.25  1680 1784
1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1200"x0.0  193.25  1920 2056
2256 2592  1200 1203 1209 1245 -hsync +vsync (74.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0  108.00  1152 1216
1344 1600  864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0  162.00  1600 1664
1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328
1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x576"x0.0   27.00  720 732 796
864  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync (31.2 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x480i"x0.0   27.00  1440 1478
1602 1716  480 488 494 525 interlace -hsync -vsync (15.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x240"x0.0   27.00  1440 1478
1602 1716  240 244 247 262 -hsync -vsync (15.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x288"x0.0   27.00  1440 1464
1590 1728  288 290 293 312 -hsync -vsync (15.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x720"x0.0   74.25  1280 1720
1760 1980  720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync (37.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x576i"x0.0   27.00  1440 1464
1590 1728  576 580 586 625 interlace -hsync -vsync (15.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080i"x0.0   74.25  1920 2448
2492 2640  1080 1084 1094 1125 interlace +hsync +vsync (28.1 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0   74.25  1920 2558
2602 2750  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (27.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0   74.25  1920 2448
2492 2640  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (28.1 kHz e)
(END)

I found this i

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2013-10-12 Thread Joerg Lechner
Possibly I described my problem with the LXDE Live CD unclearly or not 
correctly.I didn't install F20, I only run F20 via Live CD, just for fun, only 
to see "what is Fedora 20", and doing this the system time is permanently set 
to UTC (as Adam said). In this case, in my opinion independent from Anaconda or 
Windows philosophy, the system time should not be changed (only by a try out of 
F20). I think on users, who want only to try out Fedora 20, to decide is it 
fine or not. Bug 1018162.
 

 

 

-Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- 
Von: Adam Williamson 
An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases 

Verschickt: Sa, 12 Okt 2013 5:06 pm
Betreff: Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!


On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 03:46 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
> Hi,
> several times I started Fedora 20 with
> Fedora-Live-LXDE-i686-20-Beta-TC2.iso via CD. When I later on start
> Windows XP the time displayed by Windows is changed by approximately 2
> hours. Is this already known or is it worthwhile to write a bug?
> Kind Regards

This is usually the result of Linux and Windows having different
opinions about whether the system clock should be set to UTC or local
time. I believe the installer is currently intended to guess the system
clock should be set to local time if Windows is installed, or UTC if it
is not. If you have Windows installed but system clock set to UTC, it
will break, that's kinda expected. If you have Windows installed and
system clock set to local time and it's still going wrong, I think you
should file a bug against anaconda.
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F20 display problems

2013-10-12 Thread Robert M. Albrecht

Hi,

I installed F20 which is running fine in general. But there is one 
topic, I don't understand if and where there is a problem.


I'm using a laptop.

- Booting and using mobile on battery is fine.
- Booting at home (power) is fine.
- Booting if office (docking station, power, external display) is messed up.

Office:

- system lid closed: grub shows up on external display, after that 
nothing happens. Internal and external display are black. No plymouth, 
no gdm, ... remote login via ssh works


- system lod open: grub shows up on internal display, everything works.

If I disable the GNOMEs user-autologin and clode the lid I would expect 
the system to boot up and show up on the external display, this does not 
happen.


Autologin seems only to work, when LID is open.

Logging in via ssh and trying to figure out, what is happening seems to be

x.org does not bring up any errors and seems to get the correct external 
display and resolutions:


[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "DEL", prod id 41047
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "2560x1440"x0.0  241.50  2560 2608 
2640 2720  1440 1443 1448 1481 +hsync -vsync (88.8 kHz eP)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  148.50  1920 2008 
2052 2200  1080 1082 1087 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080i"x0.0   74.25  1920 2008 
2052 2200  1080 1084 1094 1125 interlace +hsync +vsync (33.8 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x720"x0.0   74.25  1280 1390 
1430 1650  720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync (45.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x480"x0.0   27.00  720 736 798 
858  480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 
1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 
840  480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752 
800  480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 
900  400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 
1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040 
1136 1312  768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 
1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 
1056  600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x800"x0.0   83.50  1280 1352 
1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync (49.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  146.25  1680 1784 
1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1200"x0.0  193.25  1920 2056 
2256 2592  1200 1203 1209 1245 -hsync +vsync (74.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0  108.00  1152 1216 
1344 1600  864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0  162.00  1600 1664 
1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328 
1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x576"x0.0   27.00  720 732 796 
864  576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync (31.2 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x480i"x0.0   27.00  1440 1478 
1602 1716  480 488 494 525 interlace -hsync -vsync (15.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x240"x0.0   27.00  1440 1478 
1602 1716  240 244 247 262 -hsync -vsync (15.7 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x288"x0.0   27.00  1440 1464 
1590 1728  288 290 293 312 -hsync -vsync (15.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x720"x0.0   74.25  1280 1720 
1760 1980  720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync (37.5 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x576i"x0.0   27.00  1440 1464 
1590 1728  576 580 586 625 interlace -hsync -vsync (15.6 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080i"x0.0   74.25  1920 2448 
2492 2640  1080 1084 1094 1125 interlace +hsync +vsync (28.1 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0   74.25  1920 2558 
2602 2750  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (27.0 kHz e)
[ 8.590] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0   74.25  1920 2448 
2492 2640  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (28.1 kHz e)

(END)

I found this in /var/log/messages, not sure if this is related:


Oct 13 07:08:25 localhost kernel: [  316.087969] [ cut here 
]
Oct 13 07:08:25 localhost ke

Re: Fedora 20 nfs

2013-10-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mike Chambers  wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 11:34 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Check 'remote-fs.target': this is the systemd target that controls
>> mounting anything considered a 'remote' filesystem, similar to the old
>> 'netfs' service.
>
> Looked and it is there, but not sure what to look for besides being
> there.  Any particular info that should be there?  Or can someone take a
> look after a fresh install that might know the program better to see if
> it's missing something?

Actually, you need to check the status of the mount unit itself.
(Which is required by remote-fs.target.)

They're named by switching out slashes for for dashes in the mount
point.  For instance, if you have a nfs share mounted on /mnt/foo,
it's mount unit is named "mnt-foo.mount" and you can find out what's
going on with it by running `systemctl status mnt-foo.mount`.  You can
run just plain `systemctl` for a list of units if you need to.

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Re: Sunday 13th of October: SSD cache test day

2013-10-12 Thread Rolf Fokkens

On 10/12/2013 10:58 PM, Reartes Guillermo wrote:

Maybe that can be enhanced to say "cset.uuid" instead of just "uuid" /
"set uuid"? (for which i confused it with dev.uuid shown by blkid,
since i never used bcache before).
cset.uuid can be obtained from the output of "bcache-show-super".

Cheers.

Thanks, I updated the text!

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Re: Fedora 20 nfs

2013-10-12 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

No problems here using the tweeked syscon/nfs:

# Optional arguments passed to rpc.nfsd. See rpc.nfsd(8)
RPCNFSDARGS="-V2"

The server is running  3.11.4.-301 64 bit.

There is a 15 second delay on clients the first time an NFS
share is mounted.

On 10/12/2013 08:05 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:

On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 11:34 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 09:47 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:

Did a test install of F20 64bit on my normal workstation/desktop.

Problem seems to be that after I setup nfs to mount, it won't do it
automatically on boot.  And this usually works just fine out of the box
up to F19.  I have to mount the directory manually once the system is
booted.

Is there a particular nfs service that isn't starting/working  that
would do this for me or something else?

Check 'remote-fs.target': this is the systemd target that controls
mounting anything considered a 'remote' filesystem, similar to the old
'netfs' service.


Looked and it is there, but not sure what to look for besides being
there.  Any particular info that should be there?  Or can someone take a
look after a fresh install that might know the program better to see if
it's missing something?

[mike@scrappy ~]$ more /lib/systemd/system/remote-fs.target
#  This file is part of systemd.
#
#  systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
#  under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published
by
#  the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or
#  (at your option) any later version.

[Unit]
Description=Remote File Systems
Documentation=man:systemd.special(7)
After=remote-fs-pre.target
DefaultDependencies=no
Conflicts=shutdown.target

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target





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Re: Fedora 20 nfs

2013-10-12 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 11:34 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 09:47 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Did a test install of F20 64bit on my normal workstation/desktop. 
> > 
> > Problem seems to be that after I setup nfs to mount, it won't do it
> > automatically on boot.  And this usually works just fine out of the box
> > up to F19.  I have to mount the directory manually once the system is
> > booted.
> > 
> > Is there a particular nfs service that isn't starting/working  that
> > would do this for me or something else?
> 
> Check 'remote-fs.target': this is the systemd target that controls
> mounting anything considered a 'remote' filesystem, similar to the old
> 'netfs' service.


Looked and it is there, but not sure what to look for besides being
there.  Any particular info that should be there?  Or can someone take a
look after a fresh install that might know the program better to see if
it's missing something?

[mike@scrappy ~]$ more /lib/systemd/system/remote-fs.target 
#  This file is part of systemd.
#
#  systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
#  under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published
by
#  the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or
#  (at your option) any later version.

[Unit]
Description=Remote File Systems
Documentation=man:systemd.special(7)
After=remote-fs-pre.target
DefaultDependencies=no
Conflicts=shutdown.target

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target



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Re: Let's stop using wiki for test results

2013-10-12 Thread Rolf Fokkens

Hi,

Tomorrow (sunday) there's an SSD cache Test day. I do like not using the 
wiki for testresults, but is this tool online available to be used for 
tomorrow's test day?


Rolf


On 10/11/2013 06:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:

On 10/11/2013 04:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

Well, 'we' didn't, really. Josef just thought it would be a useful thing
to have, so he wrote it, and someone running a test day wound up using
it. There was no strategic meeting or grand conspiracy or plan or
something. This is how stuff happens in tech, usually: stuff gets done
because people just...do it.


Not really but OK


  Now we have seen test days where we used
the wiki to track results and test days where we used josef's little
tool to track results, and people seem to like the tool, so maybe now
we'll make it more clear to people running test days that they have the
option of using the tool to track the results. That's really the sum
total of what's going on.


Anything beats the wiki really so if it's in ready enough shape we 
should just move to that one instead.


JBG


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Testcases for no-DHCP and IPv6

2013-10-12 Thread A.J. Werkman

Hi,

In testing Fedora from my experience, the idea emerges, that most 
development and testing is done in a network environment with an IPv4 
DHCP server running.


Testing in a network environment without DHCP and/or IPv6 only makes 
bugs come up, that are not found so easily when testing in the current 
testmatrix.


Wouldn't it be a good idea to setup testcases that address DHCP-less 
network environment and IPv6-only network environment.


DHCP-less network might be considered non-evident. But as Fedora can be 
used as DHCP-server, installing a Fedora DHCP-server, by definition I 
would say, is a case where a sysadmin is confronted with this situation.


IPv6 on the other end is the technology of the future. And as Fedora 
positions itself as 'cutting edge technology', I would consider the need 
for IPv6 testcases evident.



Koos.
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