RE: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread John Dulaney
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:58:41 +
> From: johan...@gmail.com
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: Who can close BZs?
> 
> 
> On 12/06/2013 03:56 PM, Karel Volný wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel napsal(a):
> >> Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close 
> >> another persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a member of 
> >> the action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a 
> >> non-trivial bz?
> >
> > well, anyone with the appropriate permissions (even some robots)?
> >
> > while a formal policy could be nice, I guess it is better not to 
> > complicate the rules ... anyone helping to clean the mess in bugzilla 
> > is welcome; if someone has a few spare cycles and notices something 
> > could be closed, why not to do it instead of the overloaded developer?
> >
> > - if you think that some bug has been closed improperly, let's talk 
> > about that concrete case and not about policies
> >
> 
> FYI I'm pretty sure RH bugzilla admin frown upon giving Fedora QA 
> community members those privileges...
> 
> JBG

As an aside, I had those priveleges for years before I started working
at Red Hat.

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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 22:22, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> and engineers tend not to be fans of efficiency
>> over unnecessary discussion. 
> 
> As you may have guessed, I trapped myself between two different drafts
> of that clause :) Should read 'tend to be fans...', of course.
> 

It's not a coincidence.


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Re: New test case: SMB browsing

2013-12-06 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 18:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 01:35 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> > > Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few
> > > days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases.
> > > Here's the first:
> > > 
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb
> > 
> > wiki says: "Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the
> > desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click
> > Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click
> > Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in
> > the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares"
> > 
> > I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the
> > maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better
> > browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc.
> 
> It's not about what's the best tool: it's a desktop polish test case.
> The point is to answer the question 'does this fairly commonly used
> function work right out of the box?' So testing with smb4k would be
> outside the scope of this test.
> 
> What would make sense would be to write a separate test for smb4k. Or,
> heck, a whole set of test cases! We've been wanting to have more test
> cases for more applications for a long time. But it wouldn't make sense
> as a 'desktop validation' test unless smb4k comes installed out of the
> box and Fedora users are all used to using that, not Dolphin, to browse
> SMB shares.

What you mean with "comes installed out of the box" ? , should be
install , I not mean that is , as default in KDE-desktop, it is a great
tool, you mean be default or yum install smb4k is enough ?   

> If you do write one or more test cases for smb4k, add this to the
> bottom:
> 
> [[Category:Package_smb4k_test_cases]]
> 
> and then when you send out an update for the smb4k package, the test
> cases will be listed in Bodhi as good tests to run to test the
> update. :)

Many thanks for this tips , I will read carefully and take action, but
don't know when, I'm pretty busy  

> > > it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's
> > > currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the
> > > 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at
> > > https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to
> > > figure out why.
> > 
> > I will try do the test case with the smb4k ...
> 
> It's broken at a much lower level, it's something firewalld is doing
> wrong I believe.

With smb4k you can change the defaults, and choose other kind of
authentications, for example I need an old authentication to access a
NAS server with a old Samba (which can't change it).  
I will try debug it :) but perhaps just can do the tests Monday
afternoon .

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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 12:45 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
> >
> > It'd be a bug then. Working here:
> > http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png
>
> Like I said, it's transient. That's one reason I didn't report it yet:
> hard to nail down.
>
> But now I'm looking out for it, I've seen it several times just today.
> For me it always seems to be control-center applets, though. If I just
> hit super and type 'user', sometimes, the 'Users' panel isn't shown in
> the results. Typing extra letters doesn't help - so typing 's' to make
> it 'users' doesn't make it show up - but deleting the 'r' so it's now
> 'use' makes it show Displays, Mouse & Touchpad, and Online Accounts (but
> not Users!), and then typing the r again - so we're back to 'user' -
> makes Users show up (and the other three go away; they were matching on
> the word "use", I guess).
>
>
For me, after yum installing it because I thought that I had to after
typing a search couldn't find it and now can, I found it hidden in
utilities.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 12:45 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
> 
> It'd be a bug then. Working here:
> http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png

Like I said, it's transient. That's one reason I didn't report it yet:
hard to nail down.

But now I'm looking out for it, I've seen it several times just today.
For me it always seems to be control-center applets, though. If I just
hit super and type 'user', sometimes, the 'Users' panel isn't shown in
the results. Typing extra letters doesn't help - so typing 's' to make
it 'users' doesn't make it show up - but deleting the 'r' so it's now
'use' makes it show Displays, Mouse & Touchpad, and Online Accounts (but
not Users!), and then typing the r again - so we're back to 'user' -
makes Users show up (and the other three go away; they were matching on
the word "use", I guess).

Doesn't happen 100% of the time, though, and I can't find any useful
debugging output in any logs when it does happen :/
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Re: New test case: SMB browsing

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 01:35 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> > Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few
> > days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases.
> > Here's the first:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb
> 
> wiki says: "Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the
> desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click
> Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click
> Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in
> the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares"
> 
> I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the
> maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better
> browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc.

It's not about what's the best tool: it's a desktop polish test case.
The point is to answer the question 'does this fairly commonly used
function work right out of the box?' So testing with smb4k would be
outside the scope of this test.

What would make sense would be to write a separate test for smb4k. Or,
heck, a whole set of test cases! We've been wanting to have more test
cases for more applications for a long time. But it wouldn't make sense
as a 'desktop validation' test unless smb4k comes installed out of the
box and Fedora users are all used to using that, not Dolphin, to browse
SMB shares.

If you do write one or more test cases for smb4k, add this to the
bottom:

[[Category:Package_smb4k_test_cases]]

and then when you send out an update for the smb4k package, the test
cases will be listed in Bodhi as good tests to run to test the
update. :)

> > it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's
> > currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the
> > 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at
> > https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to
> > figure out why.
> 
> I will try do the test case with the smb4k ...

It's broken at a much lower level, it's something firewalld is doing
wrong I believe.
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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.

It'd be a bug then. Working here:
http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/misc/dejadup-de-activities.png

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Re: New test case: SMB browsing

2013-12-06 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 15:41 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: 
> Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few
> days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases.
> Here's the first:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb

wiki says: "Attempt to browse SMB shares on the local network with the
desktop's normal method for doing so. For GNOME, open Files, click
Browse Network under Network in the left-hand pane, and double-click
Windows Network. For KDE, open Dolphin, click Network under Places in
the left-hand pane, and expand or click on Samba Shares"

I don't believe :) that you don't include in this test smb4k, I'm the
maintainer of it . Can I include it ? smb4k (smb for kde) is much better
browser, IMO, that kde network of dolphin and have more options etc.

> it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's
> currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the
> 'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at
> https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to
> figure out why.

I will try do the test case with the smb4k ...

> For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm
> thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases,
> like we have 'optional' install test cases - ones that it is good to run
> and check, but we don't block the release on at any milestone. This
> would be one of them. Another I'm planning to write is 'set up a printer
> and print a test page' - I'm thinking along those kinds of lines. There
> are probably other kinds of network browsing we can cover too.
> 
> Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks!
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Re: New test case: SMB browsing

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 6, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 
> For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm
> thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases,
> like we have 'optional' install test cases 

It's a good idea. For what it's worth, Apple has promoted SMB as the default 
protocol for file sharing on OS X 10.9 released in October.

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New test case: SMB browsing

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. I've been doing some polish testing on F20 in the last few
days, and thought it'd make sense to write up my tests as test cases.
Here's the first:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_network_smb

it's a test case for browsing SMB shares. Note that I'm fairly sure it's
currently broken if you have firewalld enabled, even if you allow the
'samba-client' service; I have a bug reported at
https://bugzilla.redha.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038959 where we're trying to
figure out why.

For now the test case is just sitting in the wiki, but for F21 I'm
thinking of proposing adding a set of 'optional' desktop test cases,
like we have 'optional' install test cases - ones that it is good to run
and check, but we don't block the release on at any milestone. This
would be one of them. Another I'm planning to write is 'set up a printer
and print a test page' - I'm thinking along those kinds of lines. There
are probably other kinds of network browsing we can cover too.

Thoughts, queries, corrections, improvements etc? Thanks!
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Re: Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/07/13 07:04, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
>
> On 12/06/2013 01:54 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 12:53 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:10 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
 I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of
 nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to?
>>> Given that you don't provide any information on where it is you're
>>> making this choice, we can't possibly tell you...
>> More strongly, telling us who you're getting them from would also tell
>> you who to report it to.
>>
>> - ajax
>>
>>
> I thought the rpmfusion is where all the nvidia drivers come from.
>

It is probably the most common place.  But you could also download and install 
directly from nVidia.

But, since you have indicated you're talking about rpmfusion, they have their 
own mailing lists and bugzilla system for reporting problems and asking for 
help.

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Re: Re: Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves


On 12/06/2013 01:54 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 12:53 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:10 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:

I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of
nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to?

Given that you don't provide any information on where it is you're
making this choice, we can't possibly tell you...

More strongly, telling us who you're getting them from would also tell
you who to report it to.

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I thought the rpmfusion is where all the nvidia drivers come from.

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Re: springframework - there is no package for F20

2013-12-06 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 06.12.2013 04:48, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 05:49 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:05 +0100, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
>>> Are there any chances to have this packages [1] for Fedora 20? I know
>>> it's only about release number but I don't feel comfortable with
>>> packages not targeted at my current system release.
>>>
>>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035257
>>>
>>
>> Hi Mateusz,
>>
>> The package failed to build from source (FTBFS) during the mass
>> rebuild[1], and therefore isn't available in the F20+ repositories.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=993376
>>
>> The maintainer should've fixed this up, but hasn't done it yet. You'll
>> have to wait until he does. You can help the maintainer out by
>> co-maintaining the package. It's one of the ways you get sponsored as a
>> fedora packager if you aren't one already:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group#Become_a_co-maintainer
>>
>>
> 
> I've made a first attempt to fix, but it still doesn't build.  This one
> will need a committed maintainer I think.
> 
> 

Thanks, for quick bug fix action. I'll test tomorrow if everything works
after upgrading to fc20 package.

It looks like there is another package related to Java named snappy-java
that FTBFS [1]. I'm not posting it as new thread because it is very
similar to springframework issue.

I'm not using this packages directly, they are pulled as dependencies
when installing FreeIPA server.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=993357



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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> and engineers tend not to be fans of efficiency
> over unnecessary discussion. 

As you may have guessed, I trapped myself between two different drafts
of that clause :) Should read 'tend to be fans...', of course.
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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 16:03 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 03:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 15:28 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> >
> >> All of the above is fine.  However, your are exhibiting profound
> >> arrogance in stepping in for real fedora managers/developers.  Do your
> >> RFEs and your own bzs, but, leave other peoples bz reports alone.
> >
> > You are assuming a policy that does not exist. I don't believe there is
> > any rule or policy which Chris' closure of your bug violated.
> >
> > As someone said upthread, Fedora is intentionally not hedged around with
> > *too* many hard and fast rules. There are various statuses in FAS which
> > translate into 'editbugs' privileges - which allow you to close others'
> > bugs - and it's generally not considered a problem for people with
> > editbugs privileges to do something like this.
> >
> > If Chris' change had actually been completely wrong, that might have
> > been a problem, and the appropriate thing to do would be to reverse it,
> > and then keep an eye out to make sure he wasn't repeatedly doing silly
> > things, or just trolling, or something. At the point where someone
> > exhibits a pattern of bad behaviour, then is the time when we get
> > together as a group and say 'hmm, maybe something should be done about
> > this'. But no, there is no rule that says 'Chris can't close a bug Clyde
> > filed against anaconda'.
> >
> 
> It is ungentlemanly

This seems an entirely irrelevant consideration, this is not a
gentlemen's club.

>  and discourteous.  What is wrong with a 
> person-to-person discourse first.

Bug trackers are not forums. They are tools for tracking bugs. This bug
was correctly tracked. 'Discourse' is not required.

>   There are no rules for that either, 
> just well-accepted social norms.

In my experience, the norm with bugtrackers is just what Chris did. We
try to make Fedora a welcoming environment, but it is also an
engineering project, and engineers tend not to be fans of efficiency
over unnecessary discussion. As I keep saying: you would get much more
traction with your complaint if Chris' decision had been _wrong_. Since
it's correct, I'm not sure anyone's going to see much of a problem with
it. Correctness is highly valued in collaborative development
communities like Fedora.
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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel

On 12/06/2013 03:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 15:28 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:


All of the above is fine.  However, your are exhibiting profound
arrogance in stepping in for real fedora managers/developers.  Do your
RFEs and your own bzs, but, leave other peoples bz reports alone.


You are assuming a policy that does not exist. I don't believe there is
any rule or policy which Chris' closure of your bug violated.

As someone said upthread, Fedora is intentionally not hedged around with
*too* many hard and fast rules. There are various statuses in FAS which
translate into 'editbugs' privileges - which allow you to close others'
bugs - and it's generally not considered a problem for people with
editbugs privileges to do something like this.

If Chris' change had actually been completely wrong, that might have
been a problem, and the appropriate thing to do would be to reverse it,
and then keep an eye out to make sure he wasn't repeatedly doing silly
things, or just trolling, or something. At the point where someone
exhibits a pattern of bad behaviour, then is the time when we get
together as a group and say 'hmm, maybe something should be done about
this'. But no, there is no rule that says 'Chris can't close a bug Clyde
filed against anaconda'.



It is ungentlemanly and discourteous.  What is wrong with a 
person-to-person discourse first.  There are no rules for that either, 
just well-accepted social norms.


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Re: Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 12:53 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:10 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of 
> > nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to?
> 
> Given that you don't provide any information on where it is you're
> making this choice, we can't possibly tell you...

More strongly, telling us who you're getting them from would also tell
you who to report it to.

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Re: Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:10 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of 
> nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to?

Given that you don't provide any information on where it is you're
making this choice, we can't possibly tell you...
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Re: Updates in Fedora 20 TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:12 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> Thank you for the answer to this problem.
> On 12/06/2013 01:02 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> > Package systemd-libs-208-9 is not signed is the error message I am 
> > receiving in Fedora 20 TC5 install.

The package really isn't signed. It'll be fixed in tomorrow's repo.
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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 15:28 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:

> All of the above is fine.  However, your are exhibiting profound 
> arrogance in stepping in for real fedora managers/developers.  Do your 
> RFEs and your own bzs, but, leave other peoples bz reports alone.

You are assuming a policy that does not exist. I don't believe there is
any rule or policy which Chris' closure of your bug violated.

As someone said upthread, Fedora is intentionally not hedged around with
*too* many hard and fast rules. There are various statuses in FAS which
translate into 'editbugs' privileges - which allow you to close others'
bugs - and it's generally not considered a problem for people with
editbugs privileges to do something like this.

If Chris' change had actually been completely wrong, that might have
been a problem, and the appropriate thing to do would be to reverse it,
and then keep an eye out to make sure he wasn't repeatedly doing silly
things, or just trolling, or something. At the point where someone
exhibits a pattern of bad behaviour, then is the time when we get
together as a group and say 'hmm, maybe something should be done about
this'. But no, there is no rule that says 'Chris can't close a bug Clyde
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Re: how to fix updates in fedora 20? yum problem

2013-12-06 Thread Antonio Olivares


> -Original Message-
> From: nonamed...@gmail.com
> Sent: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 14:24:18 -0600
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: how to fix updates in fedora 20? yum problem
> 
> On 12/06/2013 02:17 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I believe this has been reported, but where is the workaround for this:
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://fedora.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
>> http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
>> [root@localhost ~]#
>> 
>> I have two machines running beta and tc5 using installation cd which
>> gets latest packages.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
>> 
>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on
>> your desktop!
>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium
>> 
>> 
> 
> Bugzilla is here - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1039052
> 
> Fix is here -
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22841/yum-3.4.3-120.fc20
> 
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That did the trick!  Thank you very much!

I got the file from here:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=483265

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Re: No updates in Fedora TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:39:26 -0700
Lawrence E Graves  wrote:

> I have just downloaded Fedora TC5 and the install went fine until I
> done yum -y update and got the message there are no updates. Please
> advise.

Thats completely normal at this point. 

updates-testing is disabled by default. 

The only updates you will see show up are things that fix accepted
blocker or freeze exceptions that have been pushed stable. At this
point there's very few of those going out. 

The next flood of updates you will see is once we have a go on final
release, the updates repo will be populated and all the stuff waiting
for stable now that was not a blocker or fe will go into the updates
repo. 

Or if you re-enable the updates-testing repo you will see more updates
flowing. 

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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel

On 12/06/2013 03:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:


On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel  
wrote:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038885


Closed the first time because it's not an F20 bug. As mentioned in bug 864198 
it's intended behavior. Also closed because the summary about it not installing 
the boot loader on btrfs doesn't make sense because that's not the problem nor 
how it would work if it did work, and the description has nothing to do with 
the actual problem or getting it fixed.

I'd always intended to create a clearly described and explicit rawhide RFE 
tracking bug for the issue, and it was impossible to clean up and change your 
bug into that without requiring the reader to read 7 comments that have nothing 
to do with actually progressing the real problems. So that's why I closed it a 
2nd time, after creating the tracker bug, for which there will eventually be 
other bugs it depends on, not just the grubby bug. There are issues with grub2 
and os-prober that also need to be addressed for certain use cases.

The rationale for the change is thoroughly discussed in several blocker 
reviews. It's not some arbitrary change, it was made based on several release 
criteria being violated. Yes it would have been better to fix that old grubby 
bug that was also an F20 blocker for a month. But it's worse to throw razor 
blades at hapless users, excusing it with the suggestion they don't really 
matter when those with secret decoder ring hacks to work around the problem can 
easily do so. You can still use kickstart to make the layout as you wish.

The real issue is that grub-mkconfig isn't confused about /boot being located 
on btrfs subvolumes. Why? It seems a possible answer for grubby's confusion is 
located in grub.

Chris Murphy



All of the above is fine.  However, your are exhibiting profound 
arrogance in stepping in for real fedora managers/developers.  Do your 
RFEs and your own bzs, but, leave other peoples bz reports alone.


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Re: No updates in Fedora TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 16:45:11 +,
  Sérgio Basto  wrote:

TOP POSTING TC5 is before alfa , you mean Fedora final candidate RC5 ?
or what ever ?
when is not specific means that you are talking about pre alfa composes.
please be more specific .
Thanks,


No he means final TC5. We haven't started doing final RCs yet because there 
are open blocker bugs. There are TCs and RCs for each of alpha, beta and 
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Re: how to fix updates in fedora 20? yum problem

2013-12-06 Thread nonamedotc

On 12/06/2013 02:17 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:

Dear all,

I believe this has been reported, but where is the workaround for this:








http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://fedora.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
-1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
[root@localhost ~]#

I have two machines running beta and tc5 using installation cd which gets 
latest packages.


Best Regards,


Antonio


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Bugzilla is here - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1039052

Fix is here - 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22841/yum-3.4.3-120.fc20


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how to fix updates in fedora 20? yum problem

2013-12-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear all,

I believe this has been reported, but where is the workaround for this:


 One of the configured repositories failed (Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates),
 and yum doesn't have enough cached data to continue. At this point the only
 safe thing yum can do is fail. There are a few ways to work "fix" this:

 1. Contact the upstream for the repository and get them to fix the problem.

 2. Reconfigure the baseurl/etc. for the repository, to point to a working
upstream. This is most often useful if you are using a newer
distribution release than is supported by the repository (and the
packages for the previous distribution release still work).

 3. Disable the repository, so yum won't use it by default. Yum will then
just ignore the repository until you permanently enable it again or use
--enablerepo for temporary usage:

yum-config-manager --disable updates

 4. Configure the failing repository to be skipped, if it is unavailable.
Note that yum will try to contact the repo. when it runs most commands,
so will have to try and fail each time (and thus. yum will be be much
slower). If it is a very temporary problem though, this is often a nice
compromise:

yum-config-manager --save --setopt=updates.skip_if_unavailable=true

failure: repodata/repomd.xml from updates: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
-1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.rit.edu/fedora/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.pnl.gov/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://fedora.osuosl.org/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
-1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
-1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.mit.edu/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.ptd.net/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://archive.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.umd.edu/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.metrocast.net/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirrors.servercentral.net/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.fdcservers.net/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.cogentco.com/pub/linux/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.itc.virginia.edu/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: 
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://mirror.nexcess.net/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 
-1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
http://fedora.mirror.lstn.net/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] 
repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates
ftp://mirror.lstn.net/fedora/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno -1] 
repomd.xml does not match 

Re: Updates in Fedora 20 TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves

Thank you for the answer to this problem.
On 12/06/2013 01:02 PM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
Package systemd-libs-208-9 is not signed is the error message I am 
receiving in Fedora 20 TC5 install.




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Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves
I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of 
nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to?


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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy

On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel  
wrote:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038885

Closed the first time because it's not an F20 bug. As mentioned in bug 864198 
it's intended behavior. Also closed because the summary about it not installing 
the boot loader on btrfs doesn't make sense because that's not the problem nor 
how it would work if it did work, and the description has nothing to do with 
the actual problem or getting it fixed. 

I'd always intended to create a clearly described and explicit rawhide RFE 
tracking bug for the issue, and it was impossible to clean up and change your 
bug into that without requiring the reader to read 7 comments that have nothing 
to do with actually progressing the real problems. So that's why I closed it a 
2nd time, after creating the tracker bug, for which there will eventually be 
other bugs it depends on, not just the grubby bug. There are issues with grub2 
and os-prober that also need to be addressed for certain use cases.

The rationale for the change is thoroughly discussed in several blocker 
reviews. It's not some arbitrary change, it was made based on several release 
criteria being violated. Yes it would have been better to fix that old grubby 
bug that was also an F20 blocker for a month. But it's worse to throw razor 
blades at hapless users, excusing it with the suggestion they don't really 
matter when those with secret decoder ring hacks to work around the problem can 
easily do so. You can still use kickstart to make the layout as you wish.

The real issue is that grub-mkconfig isn't confused about /boot being located 
on btrfs subvolumes. Why? It seems a possible answer for grubby's confusion is 
located in grub.

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Updates in Fedora 20 TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves
Package systemd-libs-208-9 is not signed is the error message I am 
receiving in Fedora 20 TC5 install.


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 19:37, Simon G. wrote:
> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1039052
> and 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/yum-3.4.3-120.fc20?_csrf_token=88c0eb78b5fd4d9eb03e957cc9042ad6c25c3f7c

I simply can not accept that something like yum can be broken!
And please do not top-post, my mind hurt!


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Simon G.
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1039052
and 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/yum-3.4.3-120.fc20?_csrf_token=88c0eb78b5fd4d9eb03e957cc9042ad6c25c3f7c

2013/12/6 poma :
> On 06.12.2013 12:12, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>> I installed quite a number of packages with the
>> yum that came with TC5.  Plenty of complaints
>> about mirrors but eventually everything asked for
>> was installed.   Seems like reasonable behavior
>> when the mirrors aren't widely populated.
>
> Exactly.
> It seems to me that this is mentioned mass times, but it happens that
> people forget the simplest things.
> So it's good that someone is always yelling so that all of us don't fall
> asleep.
> Haha
>
>
> poma
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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 18:31, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 10:56 AM, Karel Volný wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel  napsal(a):
>>> Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close another
>>> persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a member of the
>>> action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a
>>> non-trivial bz?
>>
>> well, anyone with the appropriate permissions (even some robots)?
>>
>> while a formal policy could be nice, I guess it is better not to
>> complicate the rules ... anyone helping to clean the mess in bugzilla is
>> welcome; if someone has a few spare cycles and notices something could
>> be closed, why not to do it instead of the overloaded developer?
>>
>> - if you think that some bug has been closed improperly, let's talk
>> about that concrete case and not about policies
>>
>> K.
>>
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038885

Throughout "history" you can see who did what,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=1038885
It seems that an "expert" closed report to open the same as that.
Hah


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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel

On 12/06/2013 10:56 AM, Karel Volný wrote:


Hi,

Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel  napsal(a):

Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close another
persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a member of the
action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a
non-trivial bz?


well, anyone with the appropriate permissions (even some robots)?

while a formal policy could be nice, I guess it is better not to
complicate the rules ... anyone helping to clean the mess in bugzilla is
welcome; if someone has a few spare cycles and notices something could
be closed, why not to do it instead of the overloaded developer?

- if you think that some bug has been closed improperly, let's talk
about that concrete case and not about policies

K.



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systemd-208-9.fc20 package in f20 unsigned

2013-12-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. 

systemd-208-9.fc20 was pushed into the base fedora 20 repos last night
(as it fixed a blocker bug for the upcoming release). 

However, it was not signed properly, so Fedora 20 prerelease users
will see an error about the package not being signed. 

This has already been corrected and the signed package will be in
tomorrow's branched compose. Please wait for that compose to update, or
if you need to test that the blocker is fixed, you can use
--nogpgcheck to upgrade to the new package. 

Thanks, 

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Update problems

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves
Tried updating Fedora 20 TC5 and this is the results: Package 
systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64.rpm is not signed


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Re: No updates in Fedora TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Sérgio Basto
TOP POSTING TC5 is before alfa , you mean Fedora final candidate RC5 ?
or what ever ? 
when is not specific means that you are talking about pre alfa composes.
please be more specific .
Thanks, 



On Sex, 2013-12-06 at 09:39 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote: 
> I have just downloaded Fedora TC5 and the install went fine until I done 
> yum -y update and got the message there are no updates. Please advise.
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No updates in Fedora TC5

2013-12-06 Thread Lawrence E Graves
I have just downloaded Fedora TC5 and the install went fine until I done 
yum -y update and got the message there are no updates. Please advise.


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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson


On 12/06/2013 03:56 PM, Karel Volný wrote:


Hi,

Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel napsal(a):
Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close 
another persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a member of 
the action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a 
non-trivial bz?


well, anyone with the appropriate permissions (even some robots)?

while a formal policy could be nice, I guess it is better not to 
complicate the rules ... anyone helping to clean the mess in bugzilla 
is welcome; if someone has a few spare cycles and notices something 
could be closed, why not to do it instead of the overloaded developer?


- if you think that some bug has been closed improperly, let's talk 
about that concrete case and not about policies




FYI I'm pretty sure RH bugzilla admin frown upon giving Fedora QA 
community members those privileges...


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Re: F20 KDE popups (SOLVED)

2013-12-06 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 02:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> It seems I am getting a popup msg (in the top middle of the msg it has
> the topic "Local system message service) with various warnings/msgs from
> my log(s),and the popups appear in the top/middle of my screen, one on
> top of the other.  And you have to click on them to get rid of them.
> 
> How the heck do you turn that off?  It is very annoying to say the
> least.


Founded out how to turn it off..

System Settings/Application and System Notifications



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Re: Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Karel Volný


Hi,

Dne pátek, 6. prosince 2013 16:19:35 CEST, Clyde E. Kunkel  napsal(a):
Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close 
another persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a 
member of the action developer or bugzappers group close a bz, 
especially a non-trivial bz?


well, anyone with the appropriate permissions (even some robots)?

while a formal policy could be nice, I guess it is better not to complicate the 
rules ... anyone helping to clean the mess in bugzilla is welcome; if someone 
has a few spare cycles and notices something could be closed, why not to do it 
instead of the overloaded developer?

- if you think that some bug has been closed improperly, let's talk about that 
concrete case and not about policies

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Who can close BZs?

2013-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Is there a policy or other guidance on who is allowed to close another 
persons bz?  For example, can a person who is not a member of the action 
developer or bugzappers group close a bz, especially a non-trivial bz?


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread poma
On 06.12.2013 12:12, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> I installed quite a number of packages with the
> yum that came with TC5.  Plenty of complaints
> about mirrors but eventually everything asked for
> was installed.   Seems like reasonable behavior
> when the mirrors aren't widely populated.

Exactly.
It seems to me that this is mentioned mass times, but it happens that
people forget the simplest things.
So it's good that someone is always yelling so that all of us don't fall
asleep.
Haha


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F-20 Branched report: 20131206 changes

2013-12-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Dec  6 07:15:02 UTC 2013

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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:41:30 +0100
Joachim Backes  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> anybody sees this too if including the updates-testing repo to "yum
> update":
> 
>

Happened with me but still updated.


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

I installed quite a number of packages with the
yum that came with TC5.  Plenty of complaints
about mirrors but eventually everything asked for
was installed.   Seems like reasonable behavior
when the mirrors aren't widely populated.

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Re: Fedora 20 Final blocker - Please add symfony packages.

2013-12-06 Thread Remi Collet
Le 28/11/2013 03:25, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> Hi, folks. We have just over one week to the Fedora 20 Go/No-Go meeting,
> and a big happy pile of blocker bugs - everyone's having fun! In order
> to be able to complete testing in time for the go/no-go meeting

Please consider for F20Final:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1021749
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22356

Having a broken PHPUnit in F20 will make most of the PHP packages FTBFS.

Note: retiring a package before the new one is pushed is just a VERY bad
idea (despite comment#34 on bz)


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/06/2013 11:18 AM, Dan Horák wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:12:48 -0800
> Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 11:10 +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
>>
 Hi Igor,

 thank you, did help :-)
>>>
>>> are you sure this is a problem in yum itself and not in the mirror
>>> infrastructure?
>>
>> If downgrading yum helps, then it does rather suggest yum's involved
>> in the problem.
> 
> there was both a yum downgrade and "yum clean all" done, it's not clear
> what step fixes the problem

Dan,

First I did "yum clean all", but that did not help !!

Joachim Backes

> 
> 
>   Dan
> 


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:12:48 -0800
Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 11:10 +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
> 
> > > Hi Igor,
> > > 
> > > thank you, did help :-)
> > 
> > are you sure this is a problem in yum itself and not in the mirror
> > infrastructure?
> 
> If downgrading yum helps, then it does rather suggest yum's involved
> in the problem.

there was both a yum downgrade and "yum clean all" done, it's not clear
what step fixes the problem


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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 11:10 +0100, Dan Horák wrote:

> > Hi Igor,
> > 
> > thank you, did help :-)
> 
> are you sure this is a problem in yum itself and not in the mirror
> infrastructure?

If downgrading yum helps, then it does rather suggest yum's involved in
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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:53:09 +0100
Joachim Backes  wrote:

> On 12/06/2013 10:45 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 10:41 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> anybody sees this too if including the updates-testing repo to
> >> "yum update":
> >>
> >> sudo yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
> >> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> >> updates-testing/20/x86_64/metalink   |  27 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://mirrors.n-ix.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://mirror1.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://mirror2.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://ftp.byfly.by/pub/fedoraproject.org/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://mirror.1000mbps.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> >> 00:00
> >> http://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> >> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> >> Trying other mirror.
> >>
> >> .. And so on.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Joachim Backes
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)
> >> Kernel-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
> >>
> >> Joachim Backes 
> >> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes
> > 
> > Confirm! You can fix this by:
> > # yum --disablerepo=updates,updates-testing downgrade yum
> > # yum clean all
> > # yum makecache
> > 
> > and sure -1 karma in [0]bodhi
> > 
> > [0]https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22706/yum-3.4.3-119.fc20
> > 
> 
> Hi Igor,
> 
> thank you, did help :-)

are you sure this is a problem in yum itself and not in the mirror
infrastructure?


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Re: deja-dup

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 18:37 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 22:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > If it happened to you, Adam, as well, I wonder if it might be a bug?
> > Does if happen to others? Being somewhat ignorant, I thought the
> > problem was me and how I installed it, which is why I brought it up.
> > It would be interesting to find out the randomness of this thing.
> > 
> 
> Well, it does happen. It's probably due to latency in the search
> results. If you hit in "de" and wait a bit, it does show up. 

in the cases I recall seeing, that wasn't it. It just never showed.
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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/06/2013 10:45 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 10:41 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> anybody sees this too if including the updates-testing repo to "yum update":
>>
>> sudo yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
>> Loaded plugins: langpacks
>> updates-testing/20/x86_64/metalink   |  27 kB
>> 00:00
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://mirrors.n-ix.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://mirror1.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://mirror2.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://ftp.byfly.by/pub/fedoraproject.org/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://mirror.1000mbps.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
>> 00:00
>> http://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
>> Trying other mirror.
>>
>> .. And so on.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Joachim Backes
>>
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>> Kernel-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
>>
>> Joachim Backes 
>> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes
> 
> Confirm! You can fix this by:
> # yum --disablerepo=updates,updates-testing downgrade yum
> # yum clean all
> # yum makecache
> 
> and sure -1 karma in [0]bodhi
> 
> [0]https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22706/yum-3.4.3-119.fc20
> 

Hi Igor,

thank you, did help :-)

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Re: F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 10:41 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> anybody sees this too if including the updates-testing repo to "yum update":
> 
> sudo yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> updates-testing/20/x86_64/metalink   |  27 kB
> 00:00
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://mirrors.n-ix.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://mirror1.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://mirror2.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://ftp.byfly.by/pub/fedoraproject.org/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://mirror.1000mbps.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
> 00:00
> http://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
> Trying other mirror.
> 
> .. And so on.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Joachim Backes
> 
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> Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)
> Kernel-3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64
> 
> Joachim Backes 
> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

Confirm! You can fix this by:
# yum --disablerepo=updates,updates-testing downgrade yum
# yum clean all
# yum makecache

and sure -1 karma in [0]bodhi

[0]https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22706/yum-3.4.3-119.fc20

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F20: Updates-testing mirrors inoperable?

2013-12-06 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi all,

anybody sees this too if including the updates-testing repo to "yum update":

sudo yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
Loaded plugins: langpacks
updates-testing/20/x86_64/metalink   |  27 kB
00:00
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://mirrors.n-ix.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://mirror1.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://mirror2.atrpms.net/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/dl.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://ftp.byfly.by/pub/fedoraproject.org/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://mirror.1000mbps.com/fedora/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.
updates-testing  | 4.6 kB
00:00
http://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/fedora.redhat.com/linux/updates/testing/20/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno -1] repomd.xml does not match metalink for updates-testing
Trying other mirror.

.. And so on.

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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F20 KDE popups

2013-12-06 Thread Mike Chambers
It seems I am getting a popup msg (in the top middle of the msg it has
the topic "Local system message service) with various warnings/msgs from
my log(s),and the popups appear in the top/middle of my screen, one on
top of the other.  And you have to click on them to get rid of them.

How the heck do you turn that off?  It is very annoying to say the
least.

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