Re: Problem booting/install Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

   When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
   and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped 
   displaying:
  
   ISOLINUX 6.02
  
   There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
  
   So the question is what can be wrong?
  
   I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
   can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
  
   
   I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
   
   Are I the onlyone having this problem?
   
  
  Probably no! See
  
  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
 
 That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in boot, and
 anyway its cause was definitely identified and definitely does not exist
 in RC1.
 
  or
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
 
 This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the reporter is
 booting from USB, not a DVD.
 
 I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny disc thing
 (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that on :) Did anyone else?

So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just confirmed
that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the Workstation x64 live
image from Alpha boots on my laptop when written to a DVD-R. As
described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.

I will note for posterity that since joining Fedora I've tested every
single bleeding milestone this way *except F21 Alpha* and of course
that's the single solitary one which decided to break.

I further note that the effect of the wording of the 'Default boot and
install' matrix and 'QA:Testcase_Boot_default_install' is to hedge
between optical and USB media - on a very strict reading, we don't
require optical media testing to occur (only *either* optical media *or*
USB media), but that wasn't actually the intent. We really should be
testing both. The criteria clearly require that both should work at
Alpha.

So, yeah, that's a bit of a brown paper bag :| The bug report is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141496 , and I've nominated
it as a Beta blocker, obviously. I'll put a big warning in Common Bugs.

It is pretty amusing that it seems that like five people have noticed
this so far, and none of the press coverage mentions it. Useful anecdata
for the 'optical media vs. USB' debate if nothing else =)
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Installing nvidia driver on Fedora 21 crashes my system

2014-09-30 Thread Napoleon Quashie
I have been using Fedora 21 since the alpha release and overall it has
worked wonderfully (it has never one crashed and I use it every day), even
to the extent of noticing a reduction in the memory consumed and processor
usage when I have all my usual application up and running. One thing though
is, I find my screen is kind of jerky when I scroll and this has never
happened with other Fedora releases.

I therefore tried to install nvidia. I have always followed the steps from
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/. It
basically boils down to:

Install RPMFusion

*yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kernel-devel acpid*

yum install kernel-PAE-devel
mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img
dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)

*reboot*

However, after reboot, I get the rather interesting message:

Oh no something has gone wrong

 A problem has occured and the system can't recover.

 Please logout and try again.

 I've never had any issues installing nvidia in the past on any Fedora
release. Hoping for some solutions on how to fix this. Thanks in the
meantime.
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Re: Installing nvidia driver on Fedora 21 crashes my system

2014-09-30 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX


On 09/30/2014 03:38 AM, Napoleon Quashie wrote:
I have been using Fedora 21 since the alpha release and overall it has 
worked wonderfully (it has never one crashed and I use it every day), 
even to the extent of noticing a reduction in the memory consumed and 
processor usage when I have all my usual application up and running. 
One thing though is, I find my screen is kind of jerky when I scroll 
and this has never happened with other Fedora releases.


I therefore tried to install nvidia. I have always followed the steps 
from 
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/. It 
basically boils down to:


Install RPMFusion
*yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kernel-devel acpid*
yum install  kernel-PAE-devel
mv  /boot/initramfs-$(uname  -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname  -r)-nouveau.img
dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname  -r).img $(uname  -r)
*reboot*
However, after reboot, I get the rather interesting message:

Oh no something has gone wrong

A problem has occured and the system can't recover.

Please logout and try again.

I've never had any issues installing nvidia in the past on any Fedora 
release. Hoping for some solutions on how to fix this. Thanks in the 
meantime.




Installing the Nvidia driver has always been a bit tricky at best.
This is complicated by the recent tendency to boot the wrong kernel.

I run a 64 bit system so my current routine is:
(install rpmfusion)
yum install xorg-x11-dev-nvidia
 edit /boot/g*2/*cfg - replace rhgb quiet with nomodeset
reboot, taking care to boot the correct entry.

So far this works for me.  If the kernel is updated, I usually have
to remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia, reboot, and install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
all over.

The Nvidia driver is so much nicer than Nouveau it's worth the fuss
to get it installed.

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Re: Installing nvidia driver on Fedora 21 crashes my system

2014-09-30 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:38:12AM +0100, Napoleon Quashie wrote:
 I have been using Fedora 21 since the alpha release and overall it has
 worked wonderfully (it has never one crashed and I use it every day), even
 to the extent of noticing a reduction in the memory consumed and processor
 usage when I have all my usual application up and running. One thing though
 is, I find my screen is kind of jerky when I scroll and this has never
 happened with other Fedora releases.
 
 I therefore tried to install nvidia. I have always followed the steps from
 http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/. It
 basically boils down to:
 
 Install RPMFusion
 
 *yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kernel-devel acpid*
 
 yum install kernel-PAE-devel
 mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img
 dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)
 
 *reboot*
 
 However, after reboot, I get the rather interesting message:
 
 Oh no something has gone wrong
 
  A problem has occured and the system can't recover.
 
  Please logout and try again.
 
  I've never had any issues installing nvidia in the past on any Fedora
 release. Hoping for some solutions on how to fix this. Thanks in the
 meantime.

nVidia drivers only work with certain kernels, and it looks to me like that's
your issue. I run the nvidia drivers, but I don't use RPMFusion. For me the 
workflow looks like this (starting from nouveau):

 1 - sudo yum update
 2 - reboot and download nVidia drivers
 3 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log in again
 4 - sudo init 3
 5 - install nVidia drivers (this will autobackup your x conf)
 6 - sudo init 5 (will work if the kernel matches what nVidia provides)
 7 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log out of that terminal
 8 - ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to the GUI and your day

If you get the same error after completing step 6, then you just have to wait
until nVidia provides new drivers for updated kernels. If you have to recover,
follow these steps (assuming you're starting from a failed step 6):

 1 - ctrl-alt-f2
 2 - sudo init 3
 3 - uninstall the nvidia drivers (run with --uninstall), this will ask you if
 you want to restore your previous settings, pick yes
 4 - sudo init 5 (this should bring you back to the GUI)
 5 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log out of that terminal
 6 - ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to the GUI

With running the nVidia blobs you're at the mercy of nVidia for support and 
which kernel the driver works with. If you use RPMFusion, you're also at the
mercy of the RPMFusion packagers. AIUI they do a pretty good job of keeping 
the packages up to date, but I prefer to just do it myself and remove that 
extra level.

If you get a working kernel, you can always '-X kernel*' when you do a yum
update to not include kernel updates. Though, if the kernel update has security
fixes, skipping it is probably a bad idea and you should just wait on nVidia to
publish new drivers.

Hope that helps. If you still want to use the RPMFusion repos, then you could 
probably get help filing a bug [0] with them, in #rpmfusion on freenode, or 
mailing their list [1]. But this doesn't look or feel like a bug with *Fedora*
but rather that the nVidia drivers don't support the kernel you have.

[0] http://rpmfusion.org/ReportingBugs
[1] http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users

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Re: Installing nvidia driver on Fedora 21 crashes my system

2014-09-30 Thread Reynold


On 09/30/2014 09:24 AM, Mike Ruckman wrote:

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:38:12AM +0100, Napoleon Quashie wrote:

I have been using Fedora 21 since the alpha release and overall it has
worked wonderfully (it has never one crashed and I use it every day), even
to the extent of noticing a reduction in the memory consumed and processor
usage when I have all my usual application up and running. One thing though
is, I find my screen is kind of jerky when I scroll and this has never
happened with other Fedora releases.

I therefore tried to install nvidia. I have always followed the steps from
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2014/fedora-20-nvidia-guide/. It
basically boils down to:

Install RPMFusion

*yum install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kernel-devel acpid*

yum install kernel-PAE-devel
mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img
dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)

*reboot*

However, after reboot, I get the rather interesting message:

Oh no something has gone wrong

A problem has occured and the system can't recover.

Please logout and try again.

I've never had any issues installing nvidia in the past on any Fedora

release. Hoping for some solutions on how to fix this. Thanks in the
meantime.

nVidia drivers only work with certain kernels, and it looks to me like that's
your issue. I run the nvidia drivers, but I don't use RPMFusion. For me the
workflow looks like this (starting from nouveau):

  1 - sudo yum update
  2 - reboot and download nVidia drivers
  3 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log in again
  4 - sudo init 3
  5 - install nVidia drivers (this will autobackup your x conf)
  6 - sudo init 5 (will work if the kernel matches what nVidia provides)
  7 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log out of that terminal
  8 - ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to the GUI and your day

If you get the same error after completing step 6, then you just have to wait
until nVidia provides new drivers for updated kernels. If you have to recover,
follow these steps (assuming you're starting from a failed step 6):

  1 - ctrl-alt-f2
  2 - sudo init 3
  3 - uninstall the nvidia drivers (run with --uninstall), this will ask you if
  you want to restore your previous settings, pick yes
  4 - sudo init 5 (this should bring you back to the GUI)
  5 - ctrl-alt-f2 and log out of that terminal
  6 - ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to the GUI

With running the nVidia blobs you're at the mercy of nVidia for support and
which kernel the driver works with. If you use RPMFusion, you're also at the
mercy of the RPMFusion packagers. AIUI they do a pretty good job of keeping
the packages up to date, but I prefer to just do it myself and remove that
extra level.

If you get a working kernel, you can always '-X kernel*' when you do a yum
update to not include kernel updates. Though, if the kernel update has security
fixes, skipping it is probably a bad idea and you should just wait on nVidia to
publish new drivers.

Hope that helps. If you still want to use the RPMFusion repos, then you could
probably get help filing a bug [0] with them, in #rpmfusion on freenode, or
mailing their list [1]. But this doesn't look or feel like a bug with *Fedora*
but rather that the nVidia drivers don't support the kernel you have.

[0] http://rpmfusion.org/ReportingBugs
[1] http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users

I have been using Fedora 21 Alpha workstation since it was released and 
have an NVIDIA driver ( 343.13 - BETA 64bit) installed that is working 
fine. I'll try to run through the steps I did to install the driver.


using yum or dnf update
#install kernel-devel gcc
download NVIDIA driver
#chmod +x NVIDIA.run (make driver executable)
#vi /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist.conf and insert blacklist nouveau (less 
quotes)
#vi /etc/sysconfig/grub and insert rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau (less 
quotes) and the end of the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX

refresh grub #grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
#remove xorg-x11-drv-nouveau.x86_64
reboot to init 3 (for instance in grub menu with version highlighted hit 
e to edit and insert init 3 at the end of the linux line and then F10

cd to where you downloaded NVIDIA driver
#./NVIDIA.run
let NVIDIA install 32 bit compatibility and update xconfig utility
reboot system or init 5 and you will find a properties page for the 
NVIDIA driver


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Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:41 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
 All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply
 with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers
 policy. [1] (This is already mentioned at the very bottom of the
 policy.)

That sounds workable, so long as someone's actually making sure we *do*
comply with those. Has anyone checked that yet? I'd rather not throw it
in the criteria and then have to fudge it immediately :)

We used to have polish criteria for the desktop, and then we'd
inevitably find issues late in Final testing and no-one would want to
block release for them, it got to be a bit absurd, which is why we
dropped those criteria a couple of releases back. I'm fine with having
them, but it needs a concerted effort to actually live up to them, and
to really consider them to block the release.

 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  We don't really have criteria relating to a11y or complex input methods;
  this isn't Workstation-y in particular, but something that might be
  interesting?
 
 a11y is a good target not just for release criteria, because it is
 absolutely essential for a few users, but also for a test plan, since an
 a11y regression is quite likely to be missed by developers.
 
  Appearance is something we'd want to enforce if it were actually done,
  but I get the impression the Qt variant of Adwaita isn't actually
  written yet.
 
 This may be too subjective for a release criterion. How would we phrase
 it? Qt apps must not look terrible doesn't seem quite right

The Tech Spec I was reading as I wrote my mail (sorry if I didn't make
that clear) states that GNOME and KDE must use a unified appearance.
That's what I was referring to.

 [1]
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Guidelines/Applications_and_Launchers
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Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 09:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:41 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
  All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply
  with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers
  policy. [1] (This is already mentioned at the very bottom of the
  policy.)
 
 That sounds workable, so long as someone's actually making sure we *do*
 comply with those. Has anyone checked that yet? I'd rather not throw it
 in the criteria and then have to fudge it immediately :)

Further note: the agreed upon core desktop experience *really* needs
to be a link pointing to a formal definition of what that includes.
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Re: Problem booting/install Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just restart again
and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension 3100 it just stoped 
displaying:
   
ISOLINUX 6.02
   
There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.
   
So the question is what can be wrong?
   
I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and see if I
can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.
   

I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.

Are I the onlyone having this problem?

   
   Probably no! See
   
   https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
  
  That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in boot, and
  anyway its cause was definitely identified and definitely does not exist
  in RC1.
  
   or
   
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
  
  This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the reporter is
  booting from USB, not a DVD.
  
  I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny disc thing
  (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that on :) Did anyone else?
 
 So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just confirmed
 that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the Workstation x64 live
 image from Alpha boots on my laptop when written to a DVD-R. As
 described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.

For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least to
be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone *did*
test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system). We're
continuing to investigate.
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Re: Problem booting/install Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso

2014-09-30 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:20:58 -0700
Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  
 When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just
 restart again and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension
 3100 it just stoped displaying:

 ISOLINUX 6.02

 There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.

 So the question is what can be wrong?

 I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and
 see if I can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.

 
 I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
 
 Are I the onlyone having this problem?
 

Probably no! See

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
   
   That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in
   boot, and anyway its cause was definitely identified and
   definitely does not exist in RC1.
   
or

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
   
   This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the
   reporter is booting from USB, not a DVD.
   
   I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny
   disc thing (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that
   on :) Did anyone else?
  
  So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just
  confirmed that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the
  Workstation x64 live image from Alpha boots on my laptop when
  written to a DVD-R. As described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.
 
 For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least
 to be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone
 *did* test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system).
 We're continuing to investigate.

I did test the install DVD on a supermicro 1u server I have in the
basement. It doesnt pxe boot at all. It booted and installed fine.

Dennis
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Re: Yumex

2014-09-30 Thread Tim Lauridsen
Yumex should work fine in F21, could be a problem with Policykit, please
make a bugzilla report and I will help you track down the issue.

My plan is to replace yumex 3.0.x, with the 4.x version based on dnf at F22,

http://www.yumex.dk/2014/09/yum-extender-407-released-dnf.html

Tim


On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Reynold reynoldli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to use yumex on fedora 21 alpha workstation. Every time I try
 to install a package with it I get this error message:

 Backend not running as expected

 Yum Extender will terminate
-- exit code : 1

 I would like to know if yumex will run on fedora 21 or if it will be
 dropped in the future. If anyone knows of this error and can lead me to a
 fix please reply. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 09:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 That sounds workable, so long as someone's actually making sure we
 *do*
 comply with those. Has anyone checked that yet? I'd rather not throw
 it
 in the criteria and then have to fudge it immediately :)

I don't think all apps are currently in compliance. There were some
issues with high contrast support, last I checked, but those apps may
all have been dropped already. And the LibreOffice apps' names are too
long.

The thinking behind these requirements is not the release is blocked
until the app is fixed, but the release is blocked until the app is
fixed OR the app is dropped -- there's flexibility to choose the best
approach on a per-app basis. If Weather or Music is still missing a high
contrast icon, we'd probably just drop the app and move on with our
lives. If the issue is with a more important app outside our control
(e.g. if LibreOffice were to regain a dependency on OpenJDK Policy
Editor), then the blocker criterion is good incentive for the problem to
be fixed.


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Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy

On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 
 1. The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
 existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can
 boot into both Windows and Fedora.
 
 This one is simply dropping the UEFI get-out clause from the current
 Final criterion. I am a big solid +1 to this. If no-one has any
 objections let's get this one implemented this week.

Agreed.

 
 2. The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
 existing OS X installation, install and configure a bootloader that will
 boot Fedora; if the boot menu presents OS X entries, they should boot OS
 X.
 
 (so far as I could see on a quick skim back through the thread, this was
 the most recent version of the OS X proposal). I am +1 to this too, it
 seems reasonable. We could perhaps insert that the Fedora install
 process should not render the OS X install unbootable from the EFI boot
 manager?

If you want to, I won't oppose it. But it's really corner case to make it 
unbootable from the built-in boot manager, to the degree the installation is 
probably damaged which then triggers the corruption criterion. So we could just 
cross this land mine if we ever get to it, and call it corruption and pull that 
card out to block on.


 3. The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
 existing GNU/Linux installation, install and configure a bootloader that
 will boot both systems, within the limitations of the upstream
 bootloader.
 Within the limitations? [show] Purpose of this clause is to not require
 us to fix upstream bootloader bugs or design limitations.
 
 This is the complex one we're still struggling with. I think the above
 is possibly a little broad and could do with either limiting to
 stock-ish installs of 'commonly-used' or 'popular' distributions, or
 some more vaguely-worded wiggle room clause. I don't want to have to
 come up with some kind of criterion judo to justify us not slipping
 Final release three weeks to fix, I don't know, dual-boot with an xfs
 install of Fermi or something (no disrespect intended, Fermi users…)

I understand the logic. I just think that if we step on Fermi's tail and it's 
self-evidently our fault, we should block on that. I mean, the only way this 
gets better is if distros agree to standardize on something: either on a 
handful of layouts (probably fat chance at that) or on a self-describing system 
that allows arbitrary yet sane layouts. But right now distros are comfortable 
stepping on each others tails (sometimes their own).

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F-21 Branched report: 20140930 changes

2014-09-30 Thread Fedora Branched Report
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Validation results categories: just have Alpha, Beta and Final?

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. So as I've been playing with relval, I've been wondering why
we have 'TC' and 'RC' results page categories. That is, we have a
top-level 'Test Results' category, then we have a category for each
release which is a member of that category (e.g.
Category:Fedora_20_Test_Results ) , and then under that we have:

Fedora 20 Alpha RC Test Results
Fedora 20 Alpha TC Test Results
Fedora 20 Beta RC Test Results
Fedora 20 Beta TC Test Results
Fedora 20 Final RC Test Results
Fedora 20 Final TC Test Results

I'm not sure there's any real reason to split them between TC and RC
like that. I'd think it'd be more likely someone would want to see all
the Alpha validation pages, not *just* the TC or RC pages.

What do people think? Should we just have:

Fedora 20 Alpha Test Results
Fedora 20 Beta Test Results
Fedora 20 Final Test Results

? It wouldn't be too difficult to convert existing results to this
layout, I don't think. Thanks!
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Re: Proposed Server release criteria for F21 Beta and Final

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Hi, folks. So, I drew up a rough draft of the Server release criteria
 for Beta and Final as I suggest they might be. We could kick it around
 at tomorrow's meeting if desired. Here we go:

So, here's the second draft of the Beta criteria, with input from
today's meeting incorporated. TC1 is rolling now or soon, so I'd like to
put these into effect ASAP - if no-one has objections, I'll probably
push them out live tomorrow.

For now I suggest we stuff the FreeIPA requirements into the criteria
explicitly denoted as a temporary measure, and for Final or F22 we
implement the plan to have role requirements defined somewhere else for
the criteria to reference.

- CUT HERE ---

=== Remote logging ===

It must be possible to forward system logs to a remote system using
Server packages.

=== Firewall configuration ===

Release-blocking roles must be able to report their status in regard to
the system firewall as described in the
[[Server/Technical_Specification#Firewall|technical specification]].

=== Roles ===

Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration interfaces
must meet the core functional
[[Server/Technical_Specification#Role_Definition_Requirements|Role
Definition Requirements]] to the extent that supported roles can be
successfully started, stopped, brought to a working configuration, and
queried.

=== Cockpit management interface ===

It must be possible to log in to the default Cockpit instance and use it
to:

* View the system's logs
* View the system's running services
* Enrol the system to a FreeIPA or Active Directory domain

=== Domain controller role ===

'''Note''': role requirements are not expected to live in the Release
Criteria in future. The inclusion of requirements for the Server
product's initial role is a one-time exception for Fedora 21.

With the Domain Controller role active and correctly configured:

* Multiple clients must be able to enrol and unenrol in the domain
* Client systems must be able to authenticate users with Kerberos
* The FreeIPA configuration web UI must be available and allow
at least basic configuration of user accounts and permissions

- CUT HERE ---

How does that sound to everyone? Good enough for a go? Thanks!

We also need test cases to back these criteria. I can work on those, but
help would certainly be appreciated. Creating test cases is a basic use
of mediawiki templating, but it's pretty easy, and explained at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_test_case_creation . You can also
simply take a look at the source of a simple existing test case, like
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Server_cockpit_default or
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_kickstart_firewall , and base
your test case off of that. I'm available on IRC for any questions, and
remember any little detail things can be fixed up later, don't sweat
them too much. If you do take a cut at creating a test case, please mail
the list so I or someone else can check it does the little things right!
Thanks :)
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Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:41 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
 All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply
 with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers
 policy. [1] (This is already mentioned at the very bottom of the
 policy.)

So Beta TC1 request is filed now, and I'd like to get the criteria in
place (and then test cases) ASAP. I'm therefore proposing to make this a
Beta criterion tomorrow or so if no objections are filed. (We can always
adjust later). We can then write a test case for it.

 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  We don't really have criteria relating to a11y or complex input methods;
  this isn't Workstation-y in particular, but something that might be
  interesting?
 
 a11y is a good target not just for release criteria, because it is
 absolutely essential for a few users, but also for a test plan, since an
 a11y regression is quite likely to be missed by developers.

I'd just want to be sure we're actually in shape to enforce any
requirements we decide to set. If anyone has a realistic criterion / set
of criteria for a11y stuff they'd like to propose, we can certainly look
at including that. This has to be stuff we can *actually stand behind*
for F21 Beta / Final (as appropriate).

It's generally expected that all release criteria are backed by test
cases, there are conventions/templates for both associating criteria
with test cases (the References sub-note for all criteria is expected to
cite at least one associated test case) and test cases with criteria
(test cases that enforce release criteria are expected to include a
template which produces an admon/info notice explaining which release
criterion they enforce, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_kickstart_firewall for an
example).

So, I'd certainly be intending that we create test cases (or
appropriately extend existing ones with the template and categorization,
where they exist) for any criteria we add.
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Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Adam Williamson
adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Appearance is something we'd want to enforce if it were actually done,
 but I get the impression the Qt variant of Adwaita isn't actually
 written yet.

There's no need for such a thing.  Qt renders apps with native GTK
widgets when run in a GTK environment like GNOME.

The only caveat is Qt 4 only supports GTK 2, so the vast majority of
Qt apps will get rendered with GTK2 at the present time.  As stuff
moves to Qt 5, it will start getting rendered with GTK 3 when run in
GNOME.

So unless you consider GTK2 Adwaita ugly, a criterion for this should
be okay.  ;-)

-T.C.
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Re: Validation results categories: just have Alpha, Beta and Final?

2014-09-30 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 05:29:07PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Hi, folks. So as I've been playing with relval, I've been wondering why
 we have 'TC' and 'RC' results page categories. That is, we have a
 top-level 'Test Results' category, then we have a category for each
 release which is a member of that category (e.g.
 Category:Fedora_20_Test_Results ) , and then under that we have:
 
 Fedora 20 Alpha RC Test Results
 Fedora 20 Alpha TC Test Results
 Fedora 20 Beta RC Test Results
 Fedora 20 Beta TC Test Results
 Fedora 20 Final RC Test Results
 Fedora 20 Final TC Test Results
 
 I'm not sure there's any real reason to split them between TC and RC
 like that. I'd think it'd be more likely someone would want to see all
 the Alpha validation pages, not *just* the TC or RC pages.
 
 What do people think? Should we just have:
 
 Fedora 20 Alpha Test Results
 Fedora 20 Beta Test Results
 Fedora 20 Final Test Results
 
 ? It wouldn't be too difficult to convert existing results to this
 layout, I don't think. Thanks!
 -- 
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It makes sense to me. I'm a +1 to having less pages tracking the same thing - 
you know, until we have a proper TCMS that isn't a wiki :P

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Fedora 20 updates-testing report

2014-09-30 Thread updates
The following Fedora 20 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 152  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-5897/nrpe-2.15-2.fc20
  46  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-9474/pipelight-0.2.7.3-3.fc20
  21  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10458/torque-3.0.4-5.fc20
  21  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10451/geary-0.6.3-1.fc20
  21  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10468/icecream-1.0.1-8.20140822git.fc20
  17  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10790/squid-3.3.13-2.fc20
   5  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11353/xen-4.3.3-2.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11415/nginx-1.4.7-3.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11376/nodejs-qs-0.6.6-3.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11421/nodejs-send-0.3.0-4.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11462/suricata-2.0.4-1.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11430/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.1.fc20
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11744/seamonkey-2.29.1-1.fc20
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11641/qemu-1.6.2-9.fc20
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11630/rubygem-bundler-1.7.3-1.fc20
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11697/openstack-glance-2013.2.4-1.fc20
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11727/mediawiki-1.23.4-1.fc20
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11850/fish-2.1.1-1.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11886/golang-1.3.2-1.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11892/openstack-neutron-2013.2.4-4.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11895/check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11924/ctags-5.8-16.fc20


The following Fedora 20 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11014/squashfs-tools-4.3-8.fc20
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11482/libdvdnav-5.0.1-1.fc20,libdvdread-5.0.0-1.fc20
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11519/tracker-0.16.4-3.fc20
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11843/dash-0.5.8-1.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11928/sudo-1.8.11-1.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11884/emacs-24.3-25.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11932/selinux-policy-3.12.1-188.fc20
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11857/cheese-3.10.2-2.fc20


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 20 updates-testing

atril-1.8.1-1.fc20
autotrash-0.1.5-2.fc20
caja-1.8.2-1.fc20
check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc20
cheese-3.10.2-2.fc20
ctags-5.8-16.fc20
dreamchess-0.2.1-5.RC1.fc20
emacs-24.3-25.fc20
engrampa-1.8.1-1.fc20
golang-1.3.2-1.fc20
ibus-table-1.9.1-1.fc20
ibus-table-others-1.3.5-1.fc20
jss-4.2.6-35.fc20
mock-1.1.41-3.fc20
nfs-ganesha-2.1.0-7.fc20
openstack-neutron-2013.2.4-4.fc20
openstack-sahara-2014.1.0-14.fc20
perl-Digest-SHA3-0.22-1.fc20
perl-Excel-Writer-XLSX-0.78-1.fc20
perl-Tangerine-0.05-1.fc20
python-bugzilla2fedmsg-0.2.0-1.fc20
python-drat-0.4.1-1.fc20
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.3.2-1.fc20
python-ldap-2.4.17-1.fc20
rubygem-apipie-bindings-0.0.10-2.fc20
salt-2014.1.11-1.fc20
scons-2.3.4-1.fc20
selinux-policy-3.12.1-188.fc20
sigil-0.8.0-1.fc20
sudo-1.8.11-1.fc20
vdr-scraper2vdr-0.1.4-1.fc20

Details about builds:



 atril-1.8.1-1.fc20 (FEDORA-2014-11901)
 Document viewer

Update Information:

- update to 1.8.1 release

ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 29 2014 Wolfgang Ulbrich chat-to...@raveit.de - 1.8.1-1
- update to 1.8.1 release




 autotrash-0.1.5-2.fc20 (FEDORA-2014-11888)
 Automatically take-out the trash

Update Information:

Version Bump of Initial Fedora package

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1144000 - Review Request: autotrash - Automatically take-out the 
trash
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144000




Fedora 21 updates-testing report

2014-09-30 Thread updates
The following Fedora 21 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  18  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10766/mod_gnutls-0.5.10-13.fc21
  18  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10767/squid-3.4.7-2.fc21
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11677/rubygem-bundler-1.7.3-1.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11940/krb5-1.12.2-9.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11896/check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11915/fish-2.1.1-1.fc21


The following Fedora 21 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11103/cronie-1.4.12-1.fc21
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11161/anaconda-21.48.7-1.fc21
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11127/python-blivet-0.61.2-2.fc21
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11108/python-backports-ssl_match_hostname-3.4.0.2-4.fc21
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11279/qtwebkit-2.3.3-18.fc21
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11214/xdg-utils-1.1.0-0.28.rc2.fc21
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11698/util-linux-2.25.1-1.fc21
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11636/dnsmasq-2.72-1.fc21
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11707/samba-4.1.12-1.fc21
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11810/dash-0.5.8-1.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11856/sudo-1.8.11-1.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11866/dracut-038-30.git20140903.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11923/emacs-24.3-27.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11862/shared-mime-info-1.3-15.fc21
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11940/krb5-1.12.2-9.fc21


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 21 updates-testing

atril-1.8.1-1.fc21
autotrash-0.1.5-2.fc21
caja-1.8.2-1.fc21
check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc21
dracut-038-30.git20140903.fc21
dreamchess-0.2.1-5.RC1.fc21
emacs-24.3-27.fc21
engrampa-1.8.1-1.fc21
fish-2.1.1-1.fc21
geary-0.8.0-2.fc21
gtk2-2.24.24-4.fc21
gtk3-3.14.1-1.fc21
hadoop-2.4.1-3.fc21
hbase-0.98.3-2.fc21
krb5-1.12.2-9.fc21
libev-4.19-1.fc21
mingw-id3lib-3.8.3-33.fc21
mingw-poppler-0.26.5-1.fc21
mock-1.1.41-3.fc21
nfs-ganesha-2.1.0-7.fc21
nodejs-chai-1.9.2-1.fc21
nodejs-mbtiles-0.6.0-1.fc21
nodejs-sqlite3-3.0.2-1.fc21
nodejs-tilelive-mapnik-0.6.12-2.fc21
oozie-4.0.1-2.fc21
pdns-3.4.0-1.fc21
perl-B-Lint-1.18-1.fc21
perl-Digest-SHA3-0.22-1.fc21
perl-EV-4.18-1.fc21
perl-Excel-Writer-XLSX-0.78-1.fc21
perl-Inline-0.77-1.fc21
perl-Inline-C-0.64-1.fc21
perl-Inline-Struct-0.11-1.fc21
perl-Set-Tiny-0.02-1.fc21
perl-Tangerine-0.05-1.fc21
perl-Test-Modern-0.012-1.fc21
python-bugzilla2fedmsg-0.2.0-1.fc21
python-drat-0.4.1-1.fc21
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.3.2-1.fc21
python-ldap-2.4.17-1.fc21
rcs-5.9.3-1.fc21
rrdtool-1.4.9-1.fc21
rubygem-apipie-bindings-0.0.10-2.fc21
salt-2014.1.11-1.fc21
scons-2.3.4-1.fc21
selinux-policy-3.13.1-84.fc21
shared-mime-info-1.3-15.fc21
sigil-0.8.0-1.fc21
stellarium-0.13.0-3.fc21
sudo-1.8.11-1.fc21
vdr-scraper2vdr-0.1.4-1.fc21

Details about builds:



 atril-1.8.1-1.fc21 (FEDORA-2014-11909)
 Document viewer

Update Information:

- update to 1.8.1 release

ChangeLog:

* Mon Sep 29 2014 Wolfgang Ulbrich chat-to...@raveit.de - 1.8.1-1
- update to 1.8.1 release




 autotrash-0.1.5-2.fc21 (FEDORA-2014-11867)
 Automatically take-out the trash

Update Information:

Version Bump of Initial Fedora package

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1144000 - Review Request: autotrash - Automatically take-out the 
trash
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144000




 caja-1.8.2-1.fc21 (FEDORA-2014-11920)
 File manager for MATE

Update Information:

- 

Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2014-09-30 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 340  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19963/openstack-glance-2013.1.4-1.fc19
 152  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-5896/nrpe-2.15-2.fc19
 103  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7496/readline-6.2-8.fc19
 101  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-6774/claws-mail-3.10.1-1.fc19,claws-mail-plugins-3.10.0-1.fc19,libetpan-1.5-1.fc19
  92  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7939/lzo-2.08-1.fc19
  54  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-9162/xulrunner-31.0-1.fc19
  46  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-9427/pipelight-0.2.7.3-3.fc19
  33  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-9830/glibc-2.17-21.fc19
  33  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-9703/cups-1.6.4-10.fc19
  21  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10491/torque-3.0.4-4.fc19
  21  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10366/icecream-1.0.1-8.20140822git.fc19
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10640/libreoffice-4.1.6.2-8.fc19
  18  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10714/curl-7.29.0-23.fc19
  17  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10794/squid-3.3.13-2.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11348/kdelibs-4.11.5-5.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11370/nginx-1.4.7-3.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11428/perl-Data-Dumper-2.154-1.fc19
   5  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11483/xen-4.2.5-2.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11464/krfb-4.11.5-4.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11495/nodejs-send-0.3.0-4.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11399/nodejs-qs-0.6.6-3.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11565/nss-softokn-3.17.1-2.fc19,nss-util-3.17.1-1.fc19,nss-3.17.1-1.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11522/python-2.7.5-14.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11544/drupal6-6.33-1.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11541/libvncserver-0.9.10-0.6.20140718git9453be42.fc19
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11649/rubygem-bundler-1.7.3-1.fc19
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11745/seamonkey-2.29.1-1.fc19
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11582/mediawiki-1.23.4-1.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11838/fish-2.1.1-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11855/golang-1.3.2-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11929/check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc19


The following Fedora 19 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 288  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22326/fedora-bookmarks-15-5.fc19
 214  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-3245/testdisk-6.14-2.fc19.1,ntfs-3g-2014.2.15-1.fc19
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10986/kde-workspace-4.11.12-1.fc19
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10971/man-db-2.6.3-8.fc19
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10968/squashfs-tools-4.3-8.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11348/kdelibs-4.11.5-5.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11443/firefox-32.0.2-1.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11394/thunderbird-31.1.1-1.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11522/python-2.7.5-14.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11565/nss-softokn-3.17.1-2.fc19,nss-util-3.17.1-1.fc19,nss-3.17.1-1.fc19
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11671/koji-1.9.0-5.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-11828/dash-0.5.8-1.fc19


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 19 updates-testing

check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc19
golang-1.3.2-1.fc19
ibus-table-1.9.1-1.fc19
ibus-table-others-1.3.5-1.fc19
mock-1.1.41-3.fc19
python-bugzilla2fedmsg-0.2.0-1.fc19
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.3.2-1.fc19
salt-2014.1.11-1.fc19

Details about builds:



 check-mk-1.2.4p5-2.fc19 (FEDORA-2014-11929)
 A new general purpose Nagios-plugin for retrieving data

Update Information:

Do not require any other shell than bash since that's the default shell for the 
Fedora / RHEL distributions
New upstream release providing many security fixes.
New upstream release providing many security fixes.