rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread piruthiviraj natarajan
I have been using rawhide primarily for more than a year and every time
something goes wrong I got to get back to an installer image which is so
old that with almost all the component packages to be replaced with the
next update. I have tried almost about 15 live images from the nightly
composes repository
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=allview=treemethod=livecdorder=-idand
none of them finished a installation in the last 3-4 months. I know
its
not tested by the QA but I know there must be some image out the zillions
of live images built there must have worked for someone else and If there
is some way to add karma to the live images which works I would not have to
waste my bandwidth downloading all the non-working images.

All I ask here please give an option to add karma to the nightly composes
so that people would know which images will work. If this is not the right
place for this discussion please guide me where I should.

thanks,

Piruthiviraj Natarajan
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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 08:05 +0530, piruthiviraj natarajan wrote:
 I have been using rawhide primarily for more than a year and every
 time something goes wrong I got to get back to an installer image
 which is so old that with almost all the component packages to be
 replaced with the next update. I have tried almost about 15 live
 images from the nightly composes
 repository 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=allview=treemethod=livecdorder=-id
  and none of them finished a installation in the last 3-4 months. I know its 
 not tested by the QA but I know there must be some image out the zillions of 
 live images built there must have worked for someone else and If there is 
 some way to add karma to the live images which works I would not have to 
 waste my bandwidth downloading all the non-working images. 
 
 
 All I ask here please give an option to add karma to the nightly
 composes so that people would know which images will work. If this is
 not the right place for this discussion please guide me where I
 should.

we've always had the idea that we should be doing automated testing of
the nightly composes, and for a short time we even did, using the AutoQA
'rats' tests. These haven't worked for some time, but I believe we're
hoping to revive that with Taskotron once it's up and running.

Then maybe we can (finally) populate israwhideworkingyet.com , or
whatever it was the original zygote of the AutoQA idea was called :)

I'm not sure manual 'voting' on installer images is a good way to go,
since there's such a huge variety of possible experiences with the
installer.

I've been using today's nightly to do some test installs, FWIW, and it
gets most of the way through but then explodes with a keyboard layout
configuration problem. I'll look into that tomorrow.
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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

On 01/27/2014 06:35 PM, piruthiviraj natarajan wrote:
I have been using rawhide primarily for more than a year and every 
time something goes wrong I got to get back to an installer image 
which is so old that with almost all the component packages to be 
replaced with the next update. I have tried almost about 15 live 
images from the nightly composes repository 
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=allview=treemethod=livecdorder=-id 
and none of them finished a installation in the last 3-4 months. I 
know its not tested by the QA but I know there must be some image out 
the zillions of live images built there must have worked for someone 
else and If there is some way to add karma to the live images which 
works I would not have to waste my bandwidth downloading all the 
non-working images.


All I ask here please give an option to add karma to the nightly 
composes so that people would know which images will work. If this is 
not the right place for this discussion please guide me where I should.


thanks,

Piruthiviraj Natarajan



I've had good luck lately installing Rawhide from a local rsync copy of
/usr/bin/rsync -vaH --numeric-ids --delete --delete-after 
--delay-updates --progress --stats 
mirrors1.kernel.org::fedora/development/rawhide/x86_64/os /z/rawhide



This requires about 50 gb of space to hold the files on one's server.  
The rest is done with dnsmasq and pxeboot.

The trick is to use the pxeboot files from Heisenbug.

The result:  I can install rawhide with some 3000+ packages at local 
network speeds


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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:50:34 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 we've always had the idea that we should be doing automated testing of
 the nightly composes, and for a short time we even did, using the
 AutoQA 'rats' tests. These haven't worked for some time, but I
 believe we're hoping to revive that with Taskotron once it's up and
 running.
 
 Then maybe we can (finally) populate israwhideworkingyet.com , or
 whatever it was the original zygote of the AutoQA idea was called :)
 
 I'm not sure manual 'voting' on installer images is a good way to go,
 since there's such a huge variety of possible experiences with the
 installer.
 
 I've been using today's nightly to do some test installs, FWIW, and it
 gets most of the way through but then explodes with a keyboard layout
 configuration problem. I'll look into that tomorrow.

In addition to what Adam said... if they don't work for you, please
please report a bug on it? If they aren't working for months on end for
you it's unlikely to just randomly be fixed, you need to let someone
know to fix it. ;) 

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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread piruthiviraj natarajan
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:

 On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:50:34 -0800
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

  we've always had the idea that we should be doing automated testing of
  the nightly composes, and for a short time we even did, using the
  AutoQA 'rats' tests. These haven't worked for some time, but I
  believe we're hoping to revive that with Taskotron once it's up and
  running.
 
  Then maybe we can (finally) populate israwhideworkingyet.com , or
  whatever it was the original zygote of the AutoQA idea was called :)
 
  I'm not sure manual 'voting' on installer images is a good way to go,
  since there's such a huge variety of possible experiences with the
  installer.
 
  I've been using today's nightly to do some test installs, FWIW, and it
  gets most of the way through but then explodes with a keyboard layout
  configuration problem. I'll look into that tomorrow.

 In addition to what Adam said... if they don't work for you, please
 please report a bug on it? If they aren't working for months on end for
 you it's unlikely to just randomly be fixed, you need to let someone
 know to fix it. ;)



Thanks for the answers. I shall certainly file a bug report for the
non-working images.

@Adam

 I'm not sure manual 'voting' on installer images is a good way to go,
 since there's such a huge variety of possible experiences with the
 installer.

I understand your concern, but something(voting) is better than nothing
right?
but if there is better solution as you have mentioned is coming right up in
a short while that is very much welcome.

Debian releases CD images every week for their testing repository and they
rarely fail to finish an installation  on multiple systems I have tested.
I think Fedora rawhide images has to be sturdy as well which will allow
more people to test rawhide.
Not trying to insinuate any disrespect for the hardworking fedora devs, but
just stating the info.
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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 08:05:45 +0530,
  piruthiviraj natarajan piruthivi...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been using rawhide primarily for more than a year and every time
something goes wrong I got to get back to an installer image which is so
old that with almost all the component packages to be replaced with the
next update. I have tried almost about 15 live images from the nightly
composes repository


While your complaint about the images is valid, it might be that you can 
work around the problems by not doing a reinstall to fix issues. Using 
a live image as a rescue system might allow you to fix things.

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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 19:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:50:34 -0800
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  we've always had the idea that we should be doing automated testing of
  the nightly composes, and for a short time we even did, using the
  AutoQA 'rats' tests. These haven't worked for some time, but I
  believe we're hoping to revive that with Taskotron once it's up and
  running.
  
  Then maybe we can (finally) populate israwhideworkingyet.com , or
  whatever it was the original zygote of the AutoQA idea was called :)
  
  I'm not sure manual 'voting' on installer images is a good way to go,
  since there's such a huge variety of possible experiences with the
  installer.
  
  I've been using today's nightly to do some test installs, FWIW, and it
  gets most of the way through but then explodes with a keyboard layout
  configuration problem. I'll look into that tomorrow.
 
 In addition to what Adam said... if they don't work for you, please
 please report a bug on it? If they aren't working for months on end for
 you it's unlikely to just randomly be fixed, you need to let someone
 know to fix it. ;) 

There is a lot of active development and churn going on in Rawhide right
now, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is broken quite often, with
different bugs in each case. But if you're hitting the same bug
repeatedly over a long time, yup, file it.

Also, I guess it can't hurt to send an impromptu note to test@ if you do
a successful install from a nightly, and say 'hey, I did an install with
nightly 2014-xx-xx and it worked!', or whatever - that could be a handy
pointer for others.
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Re: rawhide - nightly composes

2014-01-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 08:53 +0530, piruthiviraj natarajan wrote:

 Debian releases CD images every week for their testing repository and
 they rarely fail to finish an installation  on multiple systems I have
 tested. 
 I think Fedora rawhide images has to be sturdy as well which will
 allow more people to test rawhide.
 Not trying to insinuate any disrespect for the hardworking fedora
 devs, but just stating the info. 

Rawhide is more like a cross between sid and experimental than it is
like testing :)
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re: Nightly-Composes???

2012-06-06 Thread Rob Healey
Dennis:

 note, im planning to use live-media-creator and not livecd-tools for
 Fedora 18 through today we can not use live-media-creator in koji.

Then what is the solution or the planned solution for this issue?  Do not
take away something without having a working replacement

Is this not the first rule in KISS?

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Re: Nightly Composes?

2012-06-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 19:30 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
 On 06/04/2012 07:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
  I usually wait a week or so around release, since I don't want people
  looking for f17 to grab them. 
  
  I'll update and look at doing a batch tomorrow. 
 
 Anaconda newUI may be a significant customer of nightly builds for F18 
 rawhide.
 See  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120604 .
 
 Significant excerpts from QA minutes, recorded by Adam Williamson:
 
   + clumens plans to merge the new anaconda UI into
 Rawhide as soon as custom partitioning is implemented
 and broadly works. He estimates one month for that
 
   + If newUI lands in anaconda significantly before F18
 branch point, we will ask releng to do rawhide
 nightlies until branching

That's slightly unclear, I apologize: what we'll ask for in that case is
a nightly boot.iso for the Rawhide tree, which hasn't happened as a
matter of course since No Frozen Rawhide. nightly live images happen
until branched point as a matter of course.
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re: Nightly-Composes...

2012-06-05 Thread Rob Healey
Dear Kevin:

Since there is a break in the compose process, when will there will a fix
and a good live cd build be available?  I would love to be able to run
fc18/ Rawhide, but I would love to have a goodworking installable FC18 Live
CD to re- install from if there is a failure some time down the road...

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:30:01 -0500
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 20:02:49 -0600,
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
 
 I'll update and look at doing a batch tomorrow.

 Note that there is an issue with building initramfs when you have
 device-mapper-multipath installed. I think that will get pulled into
 the normal spins and might end up causing them to be unbootable. (I
 haven't actually tested this yet.)

ok. I ran the compose. They all failed.

Looks like scriptlets or livecd-creator issues...

kevin

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Re: Nightly Composes?

2012-06-04 Thread John Reiser
On 06/04/2012 07:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 I usually wait a week or so around release, since I don't want people
 looking for f17 to grab them. 
 
 I'll update and look at doing a batch tomorrow. 

Anaconda newUI may be a significant customer of nightly builds for F18 rawhide.
See  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120604 .

Significant excerpts from QA minutes, recorded by Adam Williamson:

+ clumens plans to merge the new anaconda UI into
  Rawhide as soon as custom partitioning is implemented
  and broadly works. He estimates one month for that

+ If newUI lands in anaconda significantly before F18
  branch point, we will ask releng to do rawhide
  nightlies until branching

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Problem with the link column on http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/

2011-08-03 Thread Joachim Backes
Pressing any taskinfo URL in the Link column of the page
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/;
produces following error:

Error
An error has occurred while processing your request.
ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 3247016 Task info

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/koji-web/lib/kojiweb/publisher.py, line 16, in
publish_object
return old_publish_object(req, object)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py, line
425, in publish_object
return publish_object(req,util.apply_fs_data(object, req.form, req=req))
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/util.py, line 554,
in apply_fs_data
return object(**args)
  File /usr/share/koji-web/scripts/index.py, line 486, in taskinfo
taskID = int(taskID)
ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 3247016 Task info
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This happens for all items listed in the Fedora spin column

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Re: Problem with the link column on http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 13:30 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
 Pressing any taskinfo URL in the Link column of the page
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/;
 produces following error:
 
 Error
 An error has occurred while processing your request.
 ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 3247016 Task info
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/koji-web/lib/kojiweb/publisher.py, line 16, in
 publish_object
 return old_publish_object(req, object)
   File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/publisher.py, line
 425, in publish_object
 return publish_object(req,util.apply_fs_data(object, req.form, req=req))
   File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/util.py, line 554,
 in apply_fs_data
 return object(**args)
   File /usr/share/koji-web/scripts/index.py, line 486, in taskinfo
 taskID = int(taskID)
 ValueError: invalid literal for int(): 3247016 Task info
 ---
 This happens for all items listed in the Fedora spin column

The links are bad. Just delete the 'Task info' string from the end, so
the URL terminates in the last digit of the build ID.
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Fc16 livecd nightly composes...

2011-06-28 Thread Rob Healey
Dear Adam and Bruno:

Thank you for making this such a quick reply!

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 15:06 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
 Greetings:

 Does anyone know when there might be a workable livecd for nightly
 desktop composes?

 I would like to run fc16 again, and I would like to have a working
 livecd before I install the livecd of fc16?

Well, today I fixed the particular problem that the compose failed on
most recently, so I guess we'll see what happens with tomorrow's
compose.

I guess that I will have to wait and see just like the rest, huh?  Thank
you, once again...

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nightly composes...

2011-05-04 Thread Rob Healey
Greetings All:

Since F15-Beta has been created now, are the nightly composes of FC16 or
still FC15?

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Re: nightly composes...

2011-05-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 4 May 2011 17:00:10 -0700
Rob Healey robheal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings All:
 
 Since F15-Beta has been created now, are the nightly composes of FC16
 or still FC15?

They will stick with the f15 branch until after f15 is released... then
change over to rawhide/f16 probibly the week after. 

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Re: Livecd from http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ not operable

2011-02-06 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 15:34 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
 I downloaded desktop-x86_64-20110205.18.iso from
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ and
 burned a livecd. But after booting, I cannot login because the gdm
 screen is continously blinking without any chance to click on the login
 button.

Downgrade gdm I think to .4 or something and/or check koji to see if a
newer build has been done to fix it.

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Re: Livecd from http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ not operable

2011-02-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/06/2011 10:08 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 15:34 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
 I downloaded desktop-x86_64-20110205.18.iso from
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ and
 burned a livecd. But after booting, I cannot login because the gdm
 screen is continously blinking without any chance to click on the login
 button.

 Downgrade gdm I think to .4 or something and/or check koji to see if a
 newer build has been done to fix it.


Latest rawhide does not fix.  See:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674978
GDM in autologon error loop

Alternative to reverting is to temporarily remove /etc/gdm/custom.conf.

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Re: rawhide gnome nightly composes 05-02-2011

2011-02-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 14:27:24 +0200,
  Johan Scheepers johans...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 Good day,
 
 Please, is the latest live cd fixed for   * not installing on hard disk*.?

No. Add yourself as a cc to the bug if you want to follow the status of this
issue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672265
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kde livecd from nightly-composes?

2010-11-13 Thread Rob Healey
Greetings all:

I am so grateful that someone has been able to get the KDE livecd working
from http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/kde !

There are two different architectures available on the website, but the
x86_64 iso is NOT truly 64bit!  So I decided to download and burn the
opposite one thinking that maybe someone got the file names switched!  Wrong
again!!!

Is there a way to create a 64bit livecd on a 64bit machine using setarch on
a 32bit install?  I have downloaded and installed the livecd from the
website above, but it is not really a 64bit iso.  Since there is no 64bit
iso right now, is there a way to create my own?

I tried using setarch x86_64 livecd-creator ... , but it does not know what
architecture I have typed ...

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Re: kde livecd from nightly-composes?

2010-11-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 00:40:20 -0800,
  Rob Healey robheal...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are two different architectures available on the website, but the
 x86_64 iso is NOT truly 64bit!  So I decided to download and burn the
 opposite one thinking that maybe someone got the file names switched!  Wrong
 again!!!

Kevin is aware of it and thought he might have found the problem. So it might
be fixed shortly.

 Is there a way to create a 64bit livecd on a 64bit machine using setarch on
 a 32bit install?  I have downloaded and installed the livecd from the
 website above, but it is not really a 64bit iso.  Since there is no 64bit
 iso right now, is there a way to create my own?
 
 I tried using setarch x86_64 livecd-creator ... , but it does not know what
 architecture I have typed ...

I thought the default was to build as the same arch as the system you are on.
You need to do setarch to build i386 on x86_64.
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Re: [SoaS] [soas] problems with nightly composes build system?

2010-07-23 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 16:01 -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
 I have discovered that there is a problem with the fedora-logo package 
 in f14(rawhide) livecd-creator builds
 
 With:
 
  fedora-livecd-soas.ks
  and
  fedora-livecd-desktop.ks
 
 If you add these lines to build;
 
  # strip fedora trademarks until we've approval
  -fedora-logos
  generic-logos
 
 The CD will boot correctly
 without these lines you get a selinux line and then a blank screen when 
 booting the CD
 
 It looks like a fedora problem.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115

There was a fedora-logos issue affecting the recent rawhide acceptance
test runs.  I wonder if this is the same (or similar) to your issue.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614488 -
syslinux-vesa-splash.jpg installed to wrong location

I was waiting for the next acceptance run to confirm this fix.  Thanks
for noting, it appears this issue is on the F14Alpha list now.

Thanks,
James




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Re: [SoaS] [soas] problems with nightly composes build system?

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I have discovered that there is a problem with the fedora-logo package 
in f14(rawhide) livecd-creator builds

With:

 fedora-livecd-soas.ks
 and
 fedora-livecd-desktop.ks

If you add these lines to build;

 # strip fedora trademarks until we've approval
 -fedora-logos
 generic-logos

The CD will boot correctly
without these lines you get a selinux line and then a blank screen when 
booting the CD

It looks like a fedora problem.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115

Tom Gilliard
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