RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008
John, Well I hope you mean TCR! If you don't then please put your name forward as a cook this year, we'd appreciate your input ;-) Cheers, Stefan (Chief TCR mug^h^h^h cook) -Original Message- From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Well...we all know which event will have better BBQ! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, "Alex Sproul" wrote: Allan said: October 10-12 is the correct date. No, it is not the traditional third weekend in October. I decided to change the date. Sometimes you just have to be flexible. Ack! So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend! -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Re: the BBC cave video
Locklear said: >Someone should set this video up at the ICS somewhere where >7 or 8 people can lounge around on a couch and watch it and it >should run all day and into the evening every day during the event. Geez, David! We did that in Indiana last year, and in Washington in 2006. We even showed it on a 10-foot freakin' screen! >I would love to watch this video on a 65" LCD TV with surround sound and >a bunch of comfy couches, and a popcorn machine. Go ahead. Spend the $110 for the player and the movie, strap your new 65" LCD on top of the car, and I'll meet you in Lake City with a microwave and some Orville Redenbacher Movie Theater Butter. Then you can put the HD player and the DVD in the auction. Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008
Well...we all know which event will have better BBQ! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, "Alex Sproul" wrote: Allan said: October 10-12 is the correct date. No, it is not the traditional third weekend in October. I decided to change the date. Sometimes you just have to be flexible. Ack! So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend! Que lastima! While it's true that Austin and Atlanta are about 1,000 miles apart, there is clearly some cross-pollination between the two events. I see Sherry and Emily Graham were at TCR last year, and though I missed the 2007 TAG, there are always a few Tejanos there. The conflict means I'll have to make a choice, and the energy crisis being as it is, I'll have to pragmatically choose the closer event. The same will be true for Becky Jones, a damn shame! Do I correctly assume that Liebman is still showing up? If he is, it's the only place. He didn't even show at OTR last year, which he can spit at from his back porch. Hopefully, Ediger can hop a ride down on a freight train. Y'all have fun now, y''hear? Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008
Allan said: >October 10-12 is the correct date. No, it is not the traditional third >weekend >in October. I decided to change the date. Sometimes you just have to be >flexible. Ack! So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend! Que lastima! While it's true that Austin and Atlanta are about 1,000 miles apart, there is clearly some cross-pollination between the two events. I see Sherry and Emily Graham were at TCR last year, and though I missed the 2007 TAG, there are always a few Tejanos there. The conflict means I'll have to make a choice, and the energy crisis being as it is, I'll have to pragmatically choose the closer event. The same will be true for Becky Jones, a damn shame! Do I correctly assume that Liebman is still showing up? If he is, it's the only place. He didn't even show at OTR last year, which he can spit at from his back porch. Hopefully, Ediger can hop a ride down on a freight train. Y'all have fun now, y''hear? Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] Shell - new EarthSky Clear Voices for Science podcast
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE : June 30, 2008 A leading scientist for Shell has spoken in a new EarthSky Clear Voices for Science podcast about the need for what he called "aggressive action" on the issue of CO2 and other emissions leading to global warming. Chief Technology Officer Jan van der Eijk told a reporter from Earthsky - whose science podcasts are heard on broadcast outlets around the world - that the "increase in energy demand and also the need to use all kinds of sources of energy will lead to an increase in CO2 emissions, and we all know that the CO2 emissions are related to global warming. That's a major concern and also something that calls for aggressive action." In this interview, Dr. van der Eijk described to EarthSky's Jorge Salazar "the three hard truths" of the world's energy use. The first, he said, is simply that Earth's population and energy needs will substantially grow. The second is that the easy-to-reach oil and gas will struggle to supply that growth. And the third hard truth relates to rising CO2 in our atmosphere . "What is important is that people start to realize that fossil energy is a finite resource, and that we need to find ways to use that energy in a more responsible manner," said van der Eijk. A second EarthSky Clear Voices for Science podcast- also released today - features Carl Mesters, Chief Scientist of Shell, on the subject of gas-to-liquid technology for use in transportation fuels. EarthSky will release 6 more interviews on global energy over the coming months, featuring such topics as biofuels from algae and cellulose, technologies for recovery of hard-to-reach oil, and research on carbon sequestration. "Bringing these interviews to our audience is part of our mission to be a clear voice for science," said Deborah Byrd, founder and lead producer of EarthSky. "These interviews will give our audience a unique look at the research, insights, concerns and hopes of oil company scientists." The podcasts are available here: Jan van der Eijk of Shell on '3 hard truths' Carl Mesters on gas-to-liquids technology
[Texascavers] for sale: trailor tow side mirror
One passenger side electronic telescoping rear view mirror, should fit any Ford 250 or 350 truck. Custom conversion upgrade. Brand new still in bubble wrap. 175$ retail, will sell for 125$. contact by phone or email -- Nancy Weaver Volunteer Co-ordinator ICS nan...@io.com 512.847.7422 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting – July 2, 2008
UT Grotto meeting – July 2, 2008 www.utgrotto.org The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M. on the University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Bill Mixon will be showing photos of Cave of the Crystals at Naica in Chihuahua. Come out to see exciting photos of formations that are bigger than life and are in an area that is difficult to even be exposed to. Contact Gary if you are interested in presenting any of your cave related adventures. v...@utgrotto.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Paging Christie Rogers
Christie, Please contact me offline with your new address and whatnot. Your TEXAS CAVER keeps bouncing back to me. Thanks, Mark Alman Editor
[Texascavers] new AMCS Activities Newsletter
Copies of the new AMCS Activities Newsletter 31, 168 pages, will be available at the UT Grotto meeting Wednesday night. $14 softbound, $24 hardbound. Check or exact money would be helpful. Also, a reminder that I can take a copy of Kunath's "50 Years of Texas Caving" book to any meeting on request; $50. -- Bill Mixon -- You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Allcavers] TSA Membership and General Caver Listing, As Of 6/30/8
All, As a public service at absolutely no cost to you, here's the latest TSA and General Caver Listings as of June 30th, 2008. The TSA received several renewals after the last broadcast and the periodic listing of this seems to be much appreciated. I've included membership dates for all cavers with a pulse, both TSA members and non-members. If you ever attended a caving function in the Lone Star state, you're on this list. If you could take the time to peruse the rather lengthy list below, you can see if you're paid up or not, or were ever a member. If you're currently not a member in good standing, please don't despair and wail and gnash your teeth. There's no reason to be a member of the unwashed masses. There's still hope! Join the TSA for a measly $20 (cheap!) at: http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/join.html While you're at it, join the NSS, the TCMA, the TCC, the TSS, and any other worthy group you see listed in the "Links" section. Also, if you know some of the folks listed below and they do not have email, please contact them and beg/threaten them to join or rejoin. Finally, if y'all could take this list to your respective Grotto meetings and encourage folks to join or re-up, that would be great! I will be posting this list monthly, from here on out, to let all know where they stand with the TSA, when their dues are about to expire, and to (hopefully) guilt all of you non-members into joining the TSA! Thanks! Sincerely, Mark Alman TC Editor and TSA Secretary TSA Membership and General Caver Listing - 6/30/8) TSA Year Exp. Month LASTNAMEFIRSTNAME Abercrombie Don Adams Leah Jane Adams Mary Addison Aaron Addison Anica 2006 12Albach Cindy 2006 12Albach Robert Alcorn Ardeth Alcorn William Alexander Brigitte Alexander E. Calvin Alexander Ed 2004 9 Alger Brian Alger Susan Allen Mary Allman Lynn 2008 10Alman Mark AlspaughMelanie 2008 11AndersonBruce 2008 11AndersonDonna AndersonDustin 2008 10AndersonMichael 2006 4 AndersonMichael S. 2005 10AndersonTerry AnguianoJavier 2007 10ApplemanLori 2010 5 Arburn Don 2009 5 Arburn Jenni Arendy Jonathan 2008 10Arens Katie Arnold Codre Arriens Tina 2008 10AtkinsonGerald AttoliniFranco Backman Oz Bacon Mike Baer Chloe Bailey Joyce E. Baker Chris Baker Cindy Baker Donna 2009 6 Baker Randy Baldauf Jim and Roz Bales Michael P. Balin Donna Ballengee Joe Ballinger Royce Bamberger J David Banahan Ben 2004 6 Barber Robin BariteauGloria BariteauRichard 2007 10Barker Barbe 2009 5 Barker Donald Barksdale Marcus 2009 1 Barnard Dale 2009 1 Baron Peter Baron Tina BarsottiNan (Austin) 2009 5 Bartholomew Roger Barwick Paul Bassham Elbert Batson Bobby Joe Bauknecht Jeff Bauknecht Mary Ann Baxter Slim Beach Anna Beard Kevin Beecher Ward 2008 10Bell Bill Bell David Bell Jeffrey 2005 10Belski Carol Belski Dave Bennett Carl Bennett John R. Bennett Marlo Bennett Melissa Bentley Brian P. Bentley Don 2008 10Bentley William (Bill) T. Berkeley-JonesCatherine Berner Fred Berner Lila BerronesLucile BerronesOscar 2009 4 Beveridge Aimee Biegert Carolyn Bigham Susan Bilbo Mike 2008 10BillingsSam 2009 8 Binney Frank Bisbal Leopoldo 2009 3 Bishop Darla 2009 3 Bishop Robert 2008 11Bisset John 2008 11Bisset Missy 2008 11Bisset Robert Bittinger Craig Bittinger Mike Bittinger Molly Bittinger Pat 2008 10Bittinger Stanley Blauveilt Rodney 2004 3 BlaylockLaura Blevins Alan BlodgettJim Blum Carmi Blum Eugene Boe
[Texascavers] TSA Membership and General Caver Listing, As Of 6/30/8
All, As a public service at absolutely no cost to you, here's the latest TSA and General Caver Listings as of June 30th, 2008. The TSA received several renewals after the last broadcast and the periodic listing of this seems to be much appreciated. I've included membership dates for all cavers with a pulse, both TSA members and non-members. If you ever attended a caving function in the Lone Star state, you're on this list. If you could take the time to peruse the rather lengthy list below, you can see if you're paid up or not, or were ever a member. If you're currently not a member in good standing, please don't despair and wail and gnash your teeth. There's no reason to be a member of the unwashed masses. There's still hope! Join the TSA for a measly $20 (cheap!) at: http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/join.html While you're at it, join the NSS, the TCMA, the TCC, the TSS, and any other worthy group you see listed in the "Links" section. Also, if you know some of the folks listed below and they do not have email, please contact them and beg/threaten them to join or rejoin. Finally, if y'all could take this list to your respective Grotto meetings and encourage folks to join or re-up, that would be great! I will be posting this list monthly, from here on out, to let all know where they stand with the TSA, when their dues are about to expire, and to (hopefully) guilt all of you non-members into joining the TSA! Thanks! Sincerely, Mark Alman TC Editor and TSA Secretary TSA Membership and General Caver Listing - 6/30/8) TSA Year Exp. Month LASTNAMEFIRSTNAME Abercrombie Don Adams Leah Jane Adams Mary Addison Aaron Addison Anica 200612 Albach Cindy 200612 Albach Robert Alcorn Ardeth Alcorn William Alexander Brigitte Alexander E. Calvin Alexander Ed 20049 Alger Brian Alger Susan Allen Mary Allman Lynn 200810 Alman Mark AlspaughMelanie 200811 AndersonBruce 200811 AndersonDonna AndersonDustin 200810 AndersonMichael 20064 AndersonMichael S. 200510 AndersonTerry AnguianoJavier 200710 ApplemanLori 20105 Arburn Don 20095 Arburn Jenni Arendy Jonathan 200810 Arens Katie Arnold Codre Arriens Tina 200810 AtkinsonGerald AttoliniFranco Backman Oz Bacon Mike BaerChloe Bailey Joyce E. Baker Chris Baker Cindy Baker Donna 20096 Baker Randy Baldauf Jim and Roz Bales Michael P. Balin Donna Ballengee Joe Ballinger Royce Bamberger J David Banahan Ben 20046 Barber Robin BariteauGloria BariteauRichard 200710 Barker Barbe 20095 Barker Donald Barksdale Marcus 20091 Barnard Dale 20091 Baron Peter Baron Tina BarsottiNan (Austin) 20095 Bartholomew Roger Barwick Paul Bassham Elbert Batson Bobby Joe Bauknecht Jeff Bauknecht Mary Ann Baxter Slim Beach Anna Beard Kevin Beecher Ward 200810 BellBill BellDavid BellJeffrey 200510 Belski Carol Belski Dave Bennett Carl Bennett John R. Bennett Marlo Bennett Melissa Bentley Brian P. Bentley Don 200810 Bentley William (Bill) T. Berkeley-Jones Catherine Berner Fred Berner Lila BerronesLucile BerronesOscar 20094 Beveridge Aimee Biegert Carolyn Bigham Susan Bilbo Mike 200810 BillingsSam 20098 Binney Frank Bisbal Leopoldo 20093 Bishop Darla 20093 Bishop Robert 200811 Bisset John 200811 Bisset Missy 200811 Bisset Robert Bittinger Craig Bittinger Mike Bittinger Molly
[Texascavers] the BBC cave video
The price of the high def ( HD ) version of the BBC cave video ( Planet Series ) has fallen to under 30 dollars. There are still dozens of them for sale here in Houston at Fry's. You can find a 20" HD TV at Sam's for $ 300, and the prices continue to drop. You can order the HD player online for $ 80. http://www.hddvdboxsets.com/hddvd2-352696011-B000IJV4BC-Toshiba_HD_A2_HD_DVD_Player.html So for just a little over $ 400, you can watch the cave video in high definition in your very own home. Someone should set this video up at the ICS somewhere where 7 or 8 people can lounge around on a couch and watch it and it should run all day and into the evening every day during the event. ( I will furnish the video and the video player ), but I don't yet have a flat screen tv. I am hoping to have one by then. I would love to watch this video on a 65" LCD TV with surround sound and a bunch of comfy couches, and a popcorn machine. ( Can anybody out there furnish a popcorn machine ? ) On a related note, Fry's also has the "Amazing Caves" DVD for only $ 14.99. This video could be set up running in a different area. Is anybody out there working on having a display set up like this. The past few NSS Conventions have attempted this, but I feel there is room for improvement. I should be able to help attend to the visitors in the viewing area after all the electronics are set up. Would anybody out there be willing to donate a HDMI cable during the event? At least 2 would be needed. You would eventually get them back. What about speakers for a surround sound system, or cables or the receiver? Could anybody out there donate those for a week? I don't know a thing about sound or surround sound for TV's. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn
I used to work for "an" historian at TPWD. I used to piss her off by asking if history was "truth" or "facts". in all truthiness, T. -Original Message- From: Stephen Fleming Sent: Jun 28, 2008 10:54 AM To: Chris Vreeland Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The Battle of the Little Big Horn On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Chris Vreelandwrote: The thing that gets to me is how in white history texts, the word "massacre" is used to describe ay event in which whites were killed by indians, and the word "battle" is used to describe any event in which indians were killed by whites, including army raids on sleeping encampments of women, children & the elderly. I've even seen evidence of this in the roadside historical markers in Texas. History is not recounted by the losers. Things done by the opponents are heinous; similar actions by the victors are heroic. http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/ - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com