Re: [Texascavers] GPS Recomendation
Me too--I just bought one last week from Amazon for $295, now it appears to be selling for $267: http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMap-60Cx-Handheld-Navigator/dp/B000CSWHCY/ref=dp_return_1?ie=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics Someone I know that works for ESRI (the company that sells ArcGIS) told me that this is his tool of choice. He said that the Garmin Colorado series models were inferior if you plan to use them on the trail--the antennas are not as powerful as the ones in the GPSMAP 60 series. It has an amazing antenna, a color display, a built-in altimeter and a built-in compass. It accepts MicroSD cards for more memory. I love it. Diana On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Don Arburn wrote: I love my Garmin CSX 60 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Thomas Sitch wrote: Dear Friends, The time has come for me to ask for your help. The last time I was seriously doing any orienteering was in the military, and before that digging through USGS drawers at the local sporting goods store hoping to find the topo maps I wanted. I now find myself starting a business where I need a nice hand held GPS, and I obviously want it to do double duty on caving trips and karst walks. I'm looking to spend around $300, but can go higher if there's a really good model I should own. What do you recommend? Which models have served their owners well, and which ones have looked pretty and then broken down with the slightest abuse? My Best Regards, ~~Thomas * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] GPS Recomendation
I second the love for the 60 CSx. The downside: it doesn't come with any maps, aside from basic highways. The upside: you don't have to buy maps from Garmin. There's a software called Mapwel (free demo, full version for $45) that lets you make your own maps from any image: http://www.mapwel.biz/ On my last trip to Big Bend, I just pulled down a bunch of topos from the USGS seamless server (http://seamless.usgs.gov/index.php), poked around in Mapwel for about 5 minutes, and loaded them onto the GPS. It worked great. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Don Arburn wrote: > I love my Garmin CSX 60 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Thomas Sitch wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > The time has come for me to ask for your help. > > The last time I was seriously doing any orienteering was in the military, > and before that digging through USGS drawers at the local sporting goods > store hoping to find the topo maps I wanted. > > I now find myself starting a business where I need a nice hand held GPS, > and I obviously want it to do double duty on caving trips and karst walks. > > I'm looking to spend around $300, but can go higher if there's a really > good model I should own. > > What do you recommend? Which models have served their owners well, and > which ones have looked pretty and then broken down with the slightest abuse? > > My Best Regards, > > ~~Thomas > >
RE: [Texascavers] GPS Recomendation
Gotta agree with Don on this one. I've owned a few Garmin units from the el cheepo etrex to the Vista HCx but the best mid grade unit on the market now is probably the GPSMAP 60CSx. They have the new high sesitivity reciever for awesome accurcy even in valleys and under heavey foliage, more buttons and less digital menue navigation, color screen, and USB plus serial ports on the back. You dont get much better in the hobbyist consumer market that this. The next step up is the Trimble company products that start at arround $1200 and go up. Wes~ List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:52:55 -0700 From: dreadfl...@yahoo.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] GPS Recomendation Dear Friends, The time has come for me to ask for your help. The last time I was seriously doing any orienteering was in the military, and before that digging through USGS drawers at the local sporting goods store hoping to find the topo maps I wanted. I now find myself starting a business where I need a nice hand held GPS, and I obviously want it to do double duty on caving trips and karst walks. I'm looking to spend around $300, but can go higher if there's a really good model I should own. What do you recommend? Which models have served their owners well, and which ones have looked pretty and then broken down with the slightest abuse? My Best Regards, ~~Thomas _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage2_042009
Re: [Texascavers] GPS Recomendation
I love my Garmin CSX 60 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Thomas Sitch wrote: Dear Friends, The time has come for me to ask for your help. The last time I was seriously doing any orienteering was in the military, and before that digging through USGS drawers at the local sporting goods store hoping to find the topo maps I wanted. I now find myself starting a business where I need a nice hand held GPS, and I obviously want it to do double duty on caving trips and karst walks. I'm looking to spend around $300, but can go higher if there's a really good model I should own. What do you recommend? Which models have served their owners well, and which ones have looked pretty and then broken down with the slightest abuse? My Best Regards, ~~Thomas
[Texascavers] GPS Recomendation
Dear Friends, The time has come for me to ask for your help. The last time I was seriously doing any orienteering was in the military, and before that digging through USGS drawers at the local sporting goods store hoping to find the topo maps I wanted. I now find myself starting a business where I need a nice hand held GPS, and I obviously want it to do double duty on caving trips and karst walks. I'm looking to spend around $300, but can go higher if there's a really good model I should own. What do you recommend? Which models have served their owners well, and which ones have looked pretty and then broken down with the slightest abuse? My Best Regards, ~~Thomas
texascavers Digest 24 Apr 2009 17:23:24 -0000 Issue 747
texascavers Digest 24 Apr 2009 17:23:24 - Issue 747 Topics (messages 10558 through 10574): emailing Crash 10558 by: Jim Kennedy help load TSS/TSA store stuff this afternoon in Austin 10559 by: Jim Kennedy TCMA auction donations 10560 by: Jim Kennedy Mini-Speleobooks at TSA Spring Convention 10561 by: Jim Kennedy Breaking news: Schedule for Sunday at the TSA Convention 10562 by: Diana Tomchick epic survey during ICS 10563 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Re: J2 progress report 10564 by: Preston Forsythe 10565 by: Herman Miller Epic cave survye trip FULL 10566 by: Andy Gluesenkamp Worldâs largest cave reportedly discovered in Vietnam : 10567 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern : 10568 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 10574 by: Louise Power World's largest cave room found in Vietnam 10569 by: Lee H. Skinner 10570 by: vivbone.att.net First Trip 10571 by: Association for Mexican Cave Studies 10572 by: Minton, Mark 10573 by: Don Arburn Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Cavers, Some of you have taken to using my cr...@oztotl.com eddress for non-bat related things. I have been having some problems with it lately, and not getting messages. I was able to look into the matter and found many unread messages that didn't automatically forward to my work eddress like they were supposed to. So if you sent something to me at oztotl.com in the past few months and I didn't respond, I apologize. To be safe, always send things to me at jkenn...@batcon.org, whether or not it is work related. Thanks for your understanding. -- Crash Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment to it are confidential and protected by law and intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the email. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return email and delete it completely from your email system. If you have printed a copy of the email, please destroy it immediately. Thank you --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Cavers, We are looking for a couple more volunteers to help carry all the tents/tables/books/map and photo display panels from the 3rd floor of Building 18A at the Pickle Research Campus in NW Austin this afternoon at 4:30. No special requirements needed to pass gate security and enter the campus. If you are going to be later than 4:30, it would be a good idea call me at 512-663-2287 to see how far along we are so you don't drive up there and find out everything is done already. We also need some able-bodied workers willing to help unload the truck and carry everything back upstairs after the event on Sunday. Hint, hint! -- Crash Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment to it are confidential and protected by law and intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the email. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return email and delete it completely from your email system. If you have printed a copy of the email, please destroy it immediately. Thank you --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Cavers, This is a reminder to bring your Auction donations with you this weekend, and give them to Jim Kennedy or any other TCMA Director before Saturday evening. That's when we'll sell off your stuff and try to make enough money to pay off the remainder of the Punkin and Deep caves property. See you there, and bring cash or your checkbook! -- Crash Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment to it are confidential and protected by law and intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the email. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender via return email and delete it completely from your email system. If you have printed a copy of the email, please destroy it immediately. Thank you --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- FYI, Speleobooks will have a limited selection of cave and bat items for sale at the TSS/TSA sales tents this weekend at TSA Spring Convention. For a larger selection, shop online at www.speleobooks.com. -- Crash Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachment t
RE: [Texascavers] Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern :
Hi Jerry, What a wonderful gift for the Caverns. When I worked there as a seasonal in 1977 and 1978, I was fortunate enough to receive a photo of the entrance (pre-development) made from Ray Davis's original negative. It shows two men standing up hill from the entrance with nets--presumably to catch bats. As you know, he was the first photographer of the Caverns. I really treasure it. In addition, I have an autographed copy of Jim White's book, "Jim White's Own Story," which I bought for $1.00 at an antiques store in Portland, OR. On a nature walk I was leading one summer, an older gentleman told me that he could remember Jim White sitting on the porch of the store in White City selling and autographing the book. Great memories! Louise From: jerryat...@aol.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:53:08 -0400 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com; bel...@valornet.com; ca...@caver.net; carl.kun...@suddenlink.net Subject: [Texascavers] Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern : Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern By STELLA DAVIS/Carlsbad Current-Argus Wednesday, April 22, 2009 CARLSBAD, N.M.(AP) — Wearing white gloves, Carlsbad Caverns National Park Superintendent John Benjamin carefully drew items out of a box. Like a child at Christmas who has received that prized gift, he finds it difficult to hold back the excitement he feels each time he picks up a boxed item. The objects of his excitement were well-preserved letters, diaries of daily life at the park from 1929 though 1949, and never-before-seen photos, prints by renowned artists and yellowed Carlsbad Current-Argus newspapers chronicling the park's rise to greatness as a national treasure and Col. Tom Boles, the park's first superintendent. "This is stupendous. There is so much here. It exceeds our wildest expectations," Benjamin said. "Everything in these two boxes is original. They are not copies. We have a lot in our archives about the early years of the park, but nothing like this. These things are priceless." For 40 years, the items were stored in the attic of Jim McGuire's Alabama home. McGuire's mother, Margaret McGuire, was the only child of Boles. For years, McGuire said he intended to donate the items to the park but never got around to it. Then, in January, McGuire's son, Bo, a student at Arizona State University, decided to stop at the park on his way home to Alabama to see the caverns. "I had always heard about the caverns and how my grandfather played a hand in its development. It was a family legend," Bo McGuire said. "I had never been to the caverns, so I thought it was time I visited. I was not disappointed. It was wonderful. What was really great was that everyone at the park still knew my great-grandfather's name. When I went up to the information desk at the park, I introduced myself and explained who I was related to. The lady at the desk told me to wait. She then put me in touch with David Kayser (park cultural resource manager). I put him in touch with my dad, who took it from there." Jim McGuire said he inherited the memorabilia from his mother. His grandfather died at the age of 92 in 1973 in Carlsbad. McGuire said after his son put him in contact with Kayser, plans were made to donate the memorabilia. "We are taking our son back to school in Arizona (after the spring break) and decided to stop in Carlsbad to donate the items my grandfather had accumulated during the time he was superintendent. I know this is where they belong. The park will take very good care of them." Jim McGuire's wife, Susan, said Bo was named Ashley Boles McGuire, but has always been called Bo in honor of his great-grandfather. "This is an exciting day for our family, especially for Bo. His dad has told him a lot about his grandfather and the work he did as the park's first superintendent. He finally was able to come here to see for himself his great-grandfather's legacy." As the McGuire family chatted with park historians, other Park Service employees left their desks to see what all the excitement was about. They, too, were amazed at the collection. Benjamin, still brimming with excitement, reached for a framed photo with cracked glass. "Oh boy, look at this. Do you know who this is? This is truly priceless." The man sitting behind a desk in the photo autographed to Boles is Horace Albright, a conservationist who was a co-founder and second director of the National Park Service. The 1929 photo was taken shortly after Albright was appointed National Park Service director. Albright and Boles were friends. During Albright's four-year term as director, he fought successfully for establishment of three national parks: the Great Smoky Mountains, the Grand Tetons and Carlsbad Caverns. In 1981, Albright was awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, for being instrumental in convincing Congress to p
Re: [Texascavers] RE: First Trip
I allow them! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:13 AM, "Minton, Mark" wrote: Terry, Check out the latest AMCS Photo of the Week, It was taken on the first trip to Mexico in November 1962 by TR Evans, Terry Raines, James Reddell, and William Russell. There was no photo attached to your email. :-( However, attachments aren't allowed on Texascavers... Mark - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] RE: First Trip
Terry, >Check out the latest AMCS Photo of the Week, It was taken on the first trip to >Mexico in November 1962 by TR Evans, Terry Raines, James Reddell, and William >Russell. There was no photo attached to your email. :-( However, attachments aren't allowed on Texascavers... Mark - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] First Trip
Attn Cavers, Check out the latest AMCS Photo of the Week, It was taken on the first trip to Mexico in November 1962 by TR Evans, Terry Raines, James Reddell, and William Russell. If you haven't received it, email photow...@amcs.org Enjoy, Terry - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] World's largest cave room found in Vietnam
I believe it is techically the largest "passage", not the largest room. After all, it is 5km long, plus they compared it to Deer Cave which carries that distinction. It is the Sarawak Chamber in Gook Luck Cave in the same park as Deer Cave, which is the largest chamber. details, details. This way we get to have so many types of "Big", and more winners!! -- Original message from "Lee H. Skinner" : -- > An English potholing team has discovered a cave believed to be the > biggest in the world, in the Phong Nha-Ke Bang World Natural Heritage > site, according to officials of central Quang Binh province. > > The English explorers told the provincial authorities at a meeting on > April 22 that the cave, called Son Doong, is some 200m high, 140-150m > wide and over 5km long, located in an area extremely difficult to > access, about 6 hours’ walk from the Ho Chi Minh trail, an official was > quoted as saying. > > Son Doong has replaced the Deer cave in Malaysia to become the world’s > largest cave. > > Read the complete article at: > > http://is.gd/uiin > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
[NMCAVER] World's largest cave room found in Vietnam
An English potholing team has discovered a cave believed to be the biggest in the world, in the Phong Nha-Ke Bang World Natural Heritage site, according to officials of central Quang Binh province. The English explorers told the provincial authorities at a meeting on April 22 that the cave, called Son Doong, is some 200m high, 140-150m wide and over 5km long, located in an area extremely difficult to access, about 6 hours’ walk from the Ho Chi Minh trail, an official was quoted as saying. Son Doong has replaced the Deer cave in Malaysia to become the world’s largest cave. Read the complete article at: http://is.gd/uiin ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
[Texascavers] Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern :
Family donates historical items to Carlsbad Cavern * (http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2009/apr/22/bc-nm-topic-priceless-donation/?print) By STELLA DAVIS/Carlsbad Current-Argus * Wednesday, April 22, 2009 CARLSBAD, N.M.(AP) — Wearing white gloves, Carlsbad Caverns National Park Superintendent John Benjamin carefully drew items out of a box. Like a child at Christmas who has received that prized gift, he finds it difficult to hold back the excitement he feels each time he picks up a boxed item. The objects of his excitement were well-preserved letters, diaries of daily life at the park from 1929 though 1949, and never-before-seen photos, prints by renowned artists and yellowed Carlsbad Current-Argus newspapers chronicling the park's rise to greatness as a national treasure and Col. Tom Boles, the park's first superintendent. "This is stupendous. There is so much here. It exceeds our wildest expectations," Benjamin said. "Everything in these two boxes is original. They are not copies. We have a lot in our archives about the early years of the park, but nothing like this. These things are priceless." For 40 years, the items were stored in the attic of Jim McGuire's Alabama home. McGuire's mother, Margaret McGuire, was the only child of Boles. For years, McGuire said he intended to donate the items to the park but never got around to it. Then, in January, McGuire's son, Bo, a student at Arizona State University, decided to stop at the park on his way home to Alabama to see the caverns. "I had always heard about the caverns and how my grandfather played a hand in its development. It was a family legend," Bo McGuire said. "I had never been to the caverns, so I thought it was time I visited. I was not disappointed. It was wonderful. What was really great was that everyone at the park still knew my great-grandfather's name. When I went up to the information desk at the park, I introduced myself and explained who I was related to. The lady at the desk told me to wait. She then put me in touch with David Kayser (park cultural resource manager). I put him in touch with my dad, who took it from there." Jim McGuire said he inherited the memorabilia from his mother. His grandfather died at the age of 92 in 1973 in Carlsbad. McGuire said after his son put him in contact with Kayser, plans were made to donate the memorabilia. "We are taking our son back to school in Arizona (after the spring break) and decided to stop in Carlsbad to donate the items my grandfather had accumulated during the time he was superintendent. I know this is where they belong. The park will take very good care of them." Jim McGuire's wife, Susan, said Bo was named Ashley Boles McGuire, but has always been called Bo in honor of his great-grandfather. "This is an exciting day for our family, especially for Bo. His dad has told him a lot about his grandfather and the work he did as the park's first superintendent. He finally was able to come here to see for himself his great-grandfather's legacy." As the McGuire family chatted with park historians, other Park Service employees left their desks to see what all the excitement was about. They, too, were amazed at the collection. Benjamin, still brimming with excitement, reached for a framed photo with cracked glass. "Oh boy, look at this. Do you know who this is? This is truly priceless." The man sitting behind a desk in the photo autographed to Boles is Horace Albright, a conservationist who was a co-founder and second director of the National Park Service. The 1929 photo was taken shortly after Albright was appointed National Park Service director. Albright and Boles were friends. During Albright's four-year term as director, he fought successfully for establishment of three national parks: the Great Smoky Mountains, the Grand Tetons and Carlsbad Caverns. In 1981, Albright was awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, for being instrumental in convincing Congress to pass legislation that established the National Park Service in 1916. Albright left the Park Service in 1933 to join the United States Potash Company in Carlsbad and served as president until he retired in 1956. However, he continued to remain active in park and conservation issues. He died in a Los Angeles nursing home at the age of 97. Bob Hoff, Carlsbad Caverns historian, said Boles left the park to take a position at Hot Springs National Park in Arkansas. He officially retired from the Park Service in February 1951 and moved back to Carlsbad to join the publicity department of the United States Potash Company as a part-time employee. Hoff said that during Bole's tenure with the potash company, he invited photographer Ansel Adams to come to Carlsbad to photograph the underground mine. He said it was a natural progression for Boles to take Adams to the caverns to photograph the splendors there and put the caverns on the map as a place to see. Benjamin said som
[Texascavers] World’s largest cave reportedly discovered in Vietnam :
World’s largest cave discovered in Vietnam An English potholing team has discovered a cave believed to be the biggest in the world, in the Phong Nha-Ke Bang World Natural Heritage site, according to officials of central Quang Binh province. The English explorers told the provincial authorities at a meeting on April 22 that the cave, called Son Doong, is some 200m high, 140-150m wide and over 5km long, located in an area extremely difficult to access, about 6 hours’ walk from the Ho Chi Minh trail, an official was quoted as saying. Son Doong has replaced the Deer cave in Malaysia to become the world’s largest cave. The local people knew of its existence several years ago but have been unable to access it. During their one-month trip, the English explorers discovered another 20 caves, raising the total number in Phong Nha-Ke Bang National Park to 150. The English mission handed over all the information on their discoveries to Phong Nha-Ke Bang National Park and promised to return in the future for further exploration with more advanced technology. The Deputy Director of Quang Binh’s Foreign Affairs Department, Vu Ngoc Quy, said that the English explorers have returned to Phong Nha-Ke Bang several times since their first arrival in 1995. Their research has considerably contributed to preserving the World Natural Heritage site. The teams spokesman Haward Limbirt described the newly-discovered cave as having overwhelming beauty and grandeur and warned that the local administration should not exploit the cave to attract tourists but reserve it for scientific research. _http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Worlds-largest-cave-discovered-in-Vietnam/20 094/103785.vov_ (http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Worlds-largest-cave-discovered-in-Vietnam/20094/103785.vov) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003)
