Re: [netcavers] Fwd: MetroPlex caver Christmas party
http://i.imgur.com/X7BR2.jpg Tony.. is that you?
Re: [netcavers] Fwd: MetroPlex caver Christmas party
http://i.imgur.com/X7BR2.jpg Tony.. is that you?
Re: [netcavers] Fwd: MetroPlex caver Christmas party
http://i.imgur.com/X7BR2.jpg Tony.. is that you?
Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Bomber Gear site launch
I emailed the email listed at the crawldaddies website.. no response yet. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote: I was SUPEREXCITED to see this...I love Bomber Gear kneepads! However, I called them back in January '09 b/c there wasn't any caving gear available on their website, and they said knee/elbow pads would be ready by April of that year. So I'm a little bit cynical, but hopefully they will be up and running soon. Until then, Crawldaddies are an excellent substitute. :) Mallory
Re: [Texascavers] Re: fund-raising info about conservation projects
I'll admit, there is considerable pressure to donate to the United Way where I work. There is an assumed $2 donation monthly. Your name is on a lit. If you don't give, the admin assistant will nag you relentlessly. I don't mind giving, but the tactics used . lot left to be desired. I donated an hour a month. In return, I get an extra day off.. That nets a half day per year donation... is not bad to keep the monkey off your back. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Alex Sproul imoca...@comcast.net wrote: I have no idea what the CFC is. The Combined Federal Campaign is the gov't equivalent of the United Way, for all federal employees -- not a small consituency, and as Scott says, potentially worth significant bucks. Most managers exert signficant pressure on their employees to make a monthly commitment, because good statistics make *them *look good. Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R#Expected_lifespan In short, Mixon is right - you'll have to copy the contents of a CD-R/DVD-R pretty often. More so than 20 years though. I've read an article, can't remember where - that said a CD-R that could last 10 years was pretty good. Organizing cd/dvd's by age seems like a good idea for this. Who's got the time for that though? In the process of moving, I was able to get data off of CD-R's (single speed, gold backed) as late as 1996. Silver backed single speed CD-RW's written around this time were completely unreadable, causing me to lose some data from that era. Just don't be fooled that they'll last 20 or 30 years. In my personal experience, they don't. Glen On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: David Locklear said: I think the next hurdle is to develop a laptop that doesn't use batteries, and uses a crank and some kind of power saving device not affected by storage. Why not make your computer solar powered? I don't know the expected lifetime of solar panels, but ones stored dry and in the dark might last a long time. Take them and your archived computer out into the sun and let 'er rip. Presumably there will still be sunshine, unless the future is a Matrix sort of world. ;-) Actually, electricity will still likely be used and available in some form for a long time. Just provide a simple set of terminals on your computer and any power source of the future with the proper voltage and amperage should work. The bigger problem would be communicating anything 500 years into the future. What language would you use? Bill Mixon said: Anyway, there wouldn't be any convenient way to get the data out of the computer, even if you could read it on screen. It seems likely that some sort of scanning technology will be around for quite a while. Assuming the language on the screen could be understood, it shouldn't be too much trouble to scan it, or take the equivalent of movies of it, and then convert that into whatever the current digital format is. Again the bigger problem would be making the archived output meaningful. Pictures might be better than anything written. Mark You may reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data
My cd's were in a cd case, with about 100 others. It stayed zipped up in my about 98% of the time. That's a good article, I read it then but then, haven't ordered any. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote: Clover, Has she said anything about the gold archival CDs and DVDs? There's an interesting article on choosing archival media (written in 06, but with updates) at http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/10/30/how-to-choose-cddvd-archival-media Louise -- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:34:44 -0700 From: cclam...@swca.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data My sister in-law is an archival librarian with the State library in Austin. She was just railing on CDs DVDs and how archivally poor they are for permanent data storage, even when kept in the most pristine air light tight conditions in an archival library. She and the state library still swear by microfiche and other silver coated films for permanent archival data storage. Ah technology at its finest! Clover Clamons cclam...@swca.com -- *From:* John Greer [mailto:jgr...@greerservices.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2009 11:27 AM *To:* Texas Cavers *Subject:* Fw: [Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data For those interested, we burned data onto a permanent DVD for a friend a year ago. They left it open in the office under florescent lights. It is now defunct. Apparently everybody but us knew that florescent lights destroy CD/DVDs. John - Original Message - *From:* Glen Goldsmith glen.goldsm...@gmail.com *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2009 9:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Re: archiving your cave data http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R#Expected_lifespan In short, Mixon is right - you'll have to copy the contents of a CD-R/DVD-R pretty often. More so than 20 years though. I've read an article, can't remember where - that said a CD-R that could last 10 years was pretty good. Organizing cd/dvd's by age seems like a good idea for this. Who's got the time for that though? In the process of moving, I was able to get data off of CD-R's (single speed, gold backed) as late as 1996. Silver backed single speed CD-RW's written around this time were completely unreadable, causing me to lose some data from that era. Just don't be fooled that they'll last 20 or 30 years. In my personal experience, they don't. Glen
