[tw] Re: Converting script to plugin

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!
I figured out the solution to the second problem and it solved the
first problem as well. Seems all I had to do was put the code inside a
macro.

I am curious though, why did the story.findContainingTiddler(place);
throw an error? Also, I noticed that sometimes, it is used as
story.findContainingTiddler(this);. Can someone explain the reason?

w

On Aug 26, 7:13 pm, whatever  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I made a script which outputs the result on a nested slider (1)
> floating panel. I transcluded it into the toolbar, so I have a
> pulldown menu. It works as it should. However, I want to include it
> into a plugin I'm working on. So I removed the 

[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Can you describe your solution in more detail? Perhaps share the
setup? I think this will be interesting to many people.

w

On Aug 26, 10:43 pm, skye riquelme  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Actually I finally resolved my problem.. the bookmarklet code now reads
> -
>
> javascript:void(window.open('http://mydomain/bookmarking/en.html#txtFonte:[['+location.href+']]%20txtTitle:[['+document.title+']]%20txtDominio:[['+window.location.hostname+']]
> %20txtCitado:[['+window.getSelection()+']]','','width=400,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes'));
>
> Note that the javascript starts with void(...)...seems that makes all
> the difference
>
> The target of this script is a very simple TW sitting on my server. The TW
> is "armed" with UploadPlugin and UploadTiddlerPlugin (and therefor
> PasswordPlugin as well) from BidiXTW works greatfor me!!
>
> Thanks
> Skye
>
> Em domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 16h22min24s UTC-3, whatever escreveu:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi!
>
> > Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb,
> > TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting
> > BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make
> > it work (2).
>
> > (1)http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/
> > (2)
> >http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded...
>
> > w
>
> > On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme  wrote:
> > > Hi All,
>
> > > I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store
> > my
> > > favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using
> > > UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine
> > > TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date
> > is
> > > a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and
> > title
> > > to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my
> > > references on-line
>
> > > My code is siimply -
>
> > javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('
> >http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');
>
> > > The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected
> > > page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and
> > gives
> > > the message "[object Window]".after confirming the save in the new
> > > windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather
> > > annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message
> > to
> > > the open page...and how to stop this happening?
>
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Skye

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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh

TableEditor 1.2.10 http://qmowcy2.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

   - Works with UndoPlugin 0.2.1 by Eric Shulman.
  - Changes made to each cell are now undoable through UndoPlugin.
  - But this can generate a long undo history after changing many 
  cells. Not sure if it's going to cause any trouble...
  - Added visual feedback on the 'S'/'U' button while in manual 
   save/upload mode.
  - The 'S'/'U' button is active only when save/upload is needed.
  
Vincent

On Friday, August 24, 2012 7:06:46 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:
>
>  > Hmmm...I thought a cell starting with an equal sign (=) still gets 
> auto-updated if there are cell references in its expression. Is it not 
> working that way? Or you are talking about some other cases?
>
> Thought exactly the same, but a equal sign with a letter only shows 'Err: 
> ReferenceError: A is not defined', with a letter it does show the number 
> after the equal sign but doesn't change with row changes. 
>
>
> In the same vain I would actually remove the 'S'ave button, since it 
>>> anyway only replicates the saveChanges button accessible with every 
>>> editable TW. On the other hand  I already added the 'done' button to the 
>>> tiddler view toolbar, because this way it is possible to use TableEditor 
>>> together with Eric's UndoPlugin.
>>>
>>> That is great! I have been wondering how to work with the UndoPlugin! 
>> Can you tell me how to do it? 
>>
>
> At the moment UndoPlugin doesn't recognizes a change to a table cell if 
> TableEditor's auto save isn't enabled. It only recognizes once the 'done' 
> (e.g. the button used in edit mode for saving changes to a tiddler and 
> immediately switching to view mode) is used. This button can by copied from 
> the editbar to the viewbar slice in the ToolbarCommands shadowed tiddler, 
> so that this 'done' button appears in the toolbar of a tiddler in view mode 
> too. And therefore can be used to save a tiddler after a couple cells 
> changed - which now is recognized by UndoPlugin and enabled to revert the 
> table tiddler to its state before the 'done' button was used. 
>
> Since with each 'done' the tiddler refreshes and, with large tables. jumps 
> to the top of the tiddler (in my case  where I display tiddler's content 
> with a scrollbar and so keep the tiddler header always visible and 
> accessible at the top), I use it only after a couple of cells changed, 
> because of the disruption of the jump caused by saving a tiddler.
>  
>
> I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
>> a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
>> button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what "upon a cut 
>> would be changed into a paste" means. What I am thinking is something that 
>> is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
>> place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
>> that we already see in a lot of pages.
>>
>> I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
> addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
> actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
> this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
> that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
> 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
> that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.
>
>
>  Regards.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh

wolfgang,

On Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:25:50 AM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:
>
>
> I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
>>> a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
>>> button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what "upon a cut 
>>> would be changed into a paste" means. What I am thinking is something that 
>>> is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
>>> place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
>>> that we already see in a lot of pages.
>>>
>>> I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
>> addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
>> actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
>> this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
>> that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
>> 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
>> that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.
>>
>> After working a bid more with TableEdtor I actually don't think the 
> ability to cut and paste columns that much of a priority anymore. Though 
> this really is one of the hardest things to do with TW table syntax, With 
> TableEditor its actually not such a feast to accomplish anymore..-  If the 
> need arises - then the cell contents can always be cut and pasted 
> individually fairly easily and quickly too now. Also concerning how rare 
> such a need really is.. ..and for not to bloat TableEditor unnecessarily 
> with abilities not that often needed.
>
> Sounds reasonable. Will think about it. Thanks a lot.
 

> But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a 
> refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted. Though 
> gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example whenever 
> cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell).
>
> Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and '>', 
the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the formatters do 
their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that function. 
Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I tested here (with 
your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1): Chrome/Ubuntu 12.04, FF 
14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7, Safari/Win7. I 
guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the plugins you are using 
and I am not. If you can find it then I can try to fix it.
 

> Regards.
>

Cheers,

Vincent 

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Re: [tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Yeh


On Friday, August 24, 2012 7:06:46 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:
>
>  > Hmmm...I thought a cell starting with an equal sign (=) still gets 
> auto-updated if there are cell references in its expression. Is it not 
> working that way? Or you are talking about some other cases?
>
> Thought exactly the same, but a equal sign with a letter only shows 'Err: 
> ReferenceError: A is not defined', with a letter it does show the number 
> after the equal sign but doesn't change with row changes. 
>
> If you start a cell with an equal sign =, then TableCalculator assumes an 
expression in that cell and extracts cell contents if cell references are 
included, then evaluates it through user-defined functions or Javascript. 
If the case you mentioned, a cell containing =A, that letter A is not 
immediately followed by a number, so its not considered as a cell 
reference, and the A is not a user-defined function, so the TableCalculator 
passes it to Javascript for evaluation. But this A is most likely not 
defined in your (or any other's) Javascript session, therefore the 'A is 
not defined' error message is returned.

I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this column', but 
this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It seems 
possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet...
 

>
> In the same vain I would actually remove the 'S'ave button, since it 
>>> anyway only replicates the saveChanges button accessible with every 
>>> editable TW. On the other hand  I already added the 'done' button to the 
>>> tiddler view toolbar, because this way it is possible to use TableEditor 
>>> together with Eric's UndoPlugin.
>>>
>>> That is great! I have been wondering how to work with the UndoPlugin! 
>> Can you tell me how to do it? 
>>
>
> At the moment UndoPlugin doesn't recognizes a change to a table cell if 
> TableEditor's auto save isn't enabled. It only recognizes once the 'done' 
> (e.g. the button used in edit mode for saving changes to a tiddler and 
> immediately switching to view mode) is used. This button can by copied from 
> the editbar to the viewbar slice in the ToolbarCommands shadowed tiddler, 
> so that this 'done' button appears in the toolbar of a tiddler in view mode 
> too. And therefore can be used to save a tiddler after a couple cells 
> changed - which now is recognized by UndoPlugin and enabled to revert the 
> table tiddler to its state before the 'done' button was used. 
>
> Since with each 'done' the tiddler refreshes and, with large tables. jumps 
> to the top of the tiddler (in my case  where I display tiddler's content 
> with a scrollbar and so keep the tiddler header always visible and 
> accessible at the top), I use it only after a couple of cells changed, 
> because of the disruption of the jump caused by saving a tiddler.
>  
>
I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the 'done' 
button to the toolbar in view mode. 

>
> I also think there are too many buttons around the table and should figure 
>> a way to rearrange them. It sounds like a good idea to replace the delete 
>> button with a cut button, but I don't quite understand what "upon a cut 
>> would be changed into a paste" means. What I am thinking is something that 
>> is invisible most of the time and visible when the mouse is over a certain 
>> place (the corner of a table, for example), just like the pull-down menus 
>> that we already see in a lot of pages.
>>
>> I thought of changing the 'x' of the delete button to a 'c' with the 
> addition of the 'cutting' ability to this button, - And which upon an 
> actual cutting of a column would change the 'c' into a 'p' for pasting in 
> this button available below every column. Which would bring the limitation 
> that actually only one column could be deleted/cutted at a time (since all 
> 'c' button change to 'p' after having it used for a cut). Therefore agree 
> that popup menus visible upon hovering would be really a better way.
>
>
>  Regards.
>

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[tw] Re: SiteInfo and GettingStarted in TiddlySpace

2012-08-26 Thread Handoko Suwono
Still can't find the missing content. My space is astroiseur @tiddlyspace 
and I did include tiddlyace. Am still exploring how it will affect my space.

Handoko -

On Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:43:45 PM UTC+7, PMario wrote:
>
> If you use the default theme and didn't include othere spaces, 
> GettingStarted shouldn't be changed if you change SiteInfo tiddler. 
>
> Some spaces transclude the SiteInfo tiddler into the GettingStarted 
> like so <>, which is called a transclusion. This may 
> happen, but not with the default theme. 
>
> The Information isn't lost, it may be just hidden. ... 
>
> Can you point us to the space, so we can have a look? 
>
> -m 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread skye riquelme
Hi All

Actually I finally resolved my problem.. the bookmarklet code now reads 
- 

javascript:void(window.open('http://mydomain/bookmarking/en.html#txtFonte:[['+location.href+']]%20txtTitle:[['+document.title+']]%20txtDominio:[['+window.location.hostname+']]
  
%20txtCitado:[['+window.getSelection()+']]','','width=400,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes'));
 


Note that the javascript starts with void(...)...seems that makes all 
the difference

The target of this script is a very simple TW sitting on my server. The TW 
is "armed" with UploadPlugin and UploadTiddlerPlugin (and therefor 
PasswordPlugin as well) from BidiXTW works greatfor me!!

Thanks
Skye

Em domingo, 26 de agosto de 2012 16h22min24s UTC-3, whatever escreveu:
>
> Hi! 
>
> Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb, 
> TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting 
> BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make 
> it work (2). 
>
> (1) http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/ 
> (2) 
> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded74e628a5c4/3f274e1edbb1fc9b
>  
>
> w 
>
> On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme  wrote: 
> > Hi All, 
> > 
> > I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store 
> my 
> > favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using 
> > UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine 
> > TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date 
> is 
> > a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and 
> title 
> > to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my 
> > references on-line 
> > 
> > My code is siimply - 
> > 
> javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('
> http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');
>  
>
> > 
> > The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected 
> > page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and 
> gives 
> > the message "[object Window]".after confirming the save in the new 
> > windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather 
> > annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message 
> to 
> > the open page...and how to stop this happening? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance 
> > Skye 
>

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[tw] Re: Help with javascript new.window

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!

Are you using a server-side solution for your setup (TiddlyWeb,
TiddlySpace...) or a normal TW on a net-share? I tried getting
BookmarksPlugin (1) to work with TiddlyWeb, but I couldn't quite make
it work (2).

(1) http://bookmarksplugin.tiddlyspace.com/
(2) 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/342ded74e628a5c4/3f274e1edbb1fc9b

w

On Aug 24, 9:20 pm, skye riquelme  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am a great fan of TiddlySnip, but have difficulties in having it store my
> favoriites to an on-line TW (in principle this is possible using
> UploadPlugin recently that cant be done from a local TW to an onçine
> TW). So, I have started playing with an alternative. What I have to date is
> a bit o javascript in a bookmerklet that passes the selected url and title
> to a TW on my server.so far so good. Its working and storing my
> references on-line
>
> My code is siimply -
> javaascript:var%20address=location.href;var%20title=document.title;window.open('http://mydomain.org/bookmarking/marking.html#txtFonte:[['+address+']]%20txtTitle:[['+title+']]','','width=300,height=400,toolbar=yes,titlebar=yes');
>
> The only problem is that when I hit the bookmarklet from a selected
> page. a new window opensAND the selected page goes blanck and gives
> the message "[object Window]".after confirming the save in the new
> windowI can backup to the original page but thats rather
> annoying. Why is this code opening a new window AND passing this message to
> the open page...and how to stop this happening?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Skye

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[tw] Converting script to plugin

2012-08-26 Thread whatever
Hi!

I made a script which outputs the result on a nested slider (1)
floating panel. I transcluded it into the toolbar, so I have a
pulldown menu. It works as it should. However, I want to include it
into a plugin I'm working on. So I removed the 

[tw] Re: SiteInfo and GettingStarted in TiddlySpace

2012-08-26 Thread PMario
If you use the default theme and didn't include othere spaces,
GettingStarted shouldn't be changed if you change SiteInfo tiddler.

Some spaces transclude the SiteInfo tiddler into the GettingStarted
like so <>, which is called a transclusion. This may
happen, but not with the default theme.

The Information isn't lost, it may be just hidden. ...

Can you point us to the space, so we can have a look?

-m

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