Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-15 Thread Peter Miller 
I'll have another go over the weekend and check out Chrome as well.

Best wishes

Peter

On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 9:14:08 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
>
> > Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously imported moo.mp3 file 
> shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio tiddler from 
> tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not obviously 
> disabled.
>
> That's weird, can you reproduce that behaviour?
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Peter Miller  > wrote:
>
>> While appreciating that having large audio clips embedded in TiddlyWiki 
>> is not sensible, curiosity drives me to ask whether anyone has explored the 
>> possibility of recording audio inside TiddlyWiki?
>>
>
> There are JavaScript APIs in the browser for recording audio but 
> annoyingly they produce an uncompressed stream (just like a .WAV file), and 
> so are many times larger than an MP3 file.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>  
>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion 
>>> to the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 
>>>
>>> I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
>>> tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and 
>>> the file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the 
>>> previously imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the 
>>> Audio tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play 
>>> though not obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be 
>>> recognised as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can 
>>> record a 25 second clip, import and play it without problems.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Peter

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  wrote:

> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio 
> is 
> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to 
> students 
> during grading.
>

 I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do 
 other audio file formats work as expected?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  

>
>
> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>>
>> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>>
>> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>>
>> Embedded Audio
>>
>> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
>> . Embedding isn't suitable for 
>> large files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size 
>> of 
>> the TiddlyWiki  file.
>>
>> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
>>  contains an MP3 recording of 
>> the word "TiddlyWiki ". If you 
>> visit that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back 
>> the 
>> recording.
>>
>> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say 
>> how to embed audio.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-15 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Peter

> Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously imported moo.mp3 file
shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio tiddler from tiddlywiki.com
though it still refuses to play though not obviously disabled.

That's weird, can you reproduce that behaviour?

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Peter Miller  wrote:

> While appreciating that having large audio clips embedded in TiddlyWiki is
> not sensible, curiosity drives me to ask whether anyone has explored the
> possibility of recording audio inside TiddlyWiki?
>

There are JavaScript APIs in the browser for recording audio but annoyingly
they produce an uncompressed stream (just like a .WAV file), and so are
many times larger than an MP3 file.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


>
> Best wishes
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote:
>>
>> Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion
>> to the same file that Richard Smith used (see above).
>>
>> I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from
>> tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the
>> file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously
>> imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio
>> tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not
>> obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised
>> as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a
>> 25 second clip, import and play it without problems.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  wrote:
>>>
 I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as
 mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler
 shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is
 disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students
 during grading.

>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other
>>> audio file formats work as expected?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>>


 On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>
> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>
> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>
> Embedded Audio
>
> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki
> . Embedding isn't suitable for
> large files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size 
> of
> the TiddlyWiki  file.
>
> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3
>  contains an MP3 recording of
> the word "TiddlyWiki ". If you
> visit that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the
> recording.
>
> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say
> how to embed audio.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-15 Thread Peter Miller 
While appreciating that having large audio clips embedded in TiddlyWiki is 
not sensible, curiosity drives me to ask whether anyone has explored the 
possibility of recording audio inside TiddlyWiki?

Best wishes

Peter

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote:
>
> Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion 
> to the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 
>
> I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
> tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the 
> file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously 
> imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio 
> tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not 
> obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised 
> as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a 
> 25 second clip, import and play it without problems.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Peter
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
>>> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
>>> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
>>> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
>>> during grading.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other 
>> audio file formats work as expected?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:

 How may I embed audio in a tiddler?

 Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:

 Embedded Audio

 Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
 . Embedding isn't suitable for 
 large files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size 
 of 
 the TiddlyWiki  file.

 For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
  contains an MP3 recording of 
 the word "TiddlyWiki ". If you 
 visit that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the 
 recording.

 but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how 
 to embed audio.

 Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Miller 
Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion to 
the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 

I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the 
file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously 
imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio 
tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not 
obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised 
as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a 
25 second clip, import and play it without problems.

Best wishes

Peter

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  > wrote:
>
>> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
>> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
>> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
>> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
>> during grading.
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other 
> audio file formats work as expected?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>  
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>>>
>>> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>>>
>>> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>>>
>>> Embedded Audio
>>>
>>> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
>>> . Embedding isn't suitable for large 
>>> files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the 
>>> TiddlyWiki  file.
>>>
>>> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
>>>  contains an MP3 recording of 
>>> the word "TiddlyWiki ". If you visit 
>>> that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the 
>>> recording.
>>>
>>> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how 
>>> to embed audio.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Peter

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller  wrote:

> I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as
> mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler
> shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is
> disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students
> during grading.
>

I'm not familiar with "moo" files, can you provide a reference? Do other
audio file formats work as expected?

Best wishes

Jeremy.



>
>
> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:
>>
>> How may I embed audio in a tiddler?
>>
>> Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:
>>
>> Embedded Audio
>>
>> Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki
>> . Embedding isn't suitable for large
>> files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the
>> TiddlyWiki  file.
>>
>> For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3
>>  contains an MP3 recording of the
>> word "TiddlyWiki ". If you visit that
>> tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the recording.
>>
>> but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how
>> to embed audio.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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