Re: RTFM?

2001-05-15 Thread Gnanasekaran Thoppae

RTFM - Read The Friendly Manual!

-gnana

Sachin Phatak wrote:
> 
> RTFM - I've seen this abbr. in use.
> What does it stand for?
> 
> Sachin
> PS.
> I can see a few sniggering faces but how's a guy to know if he doen't ask?



RE: RTFM?

2001-05-15 Thread Ramsay Domloge

It's a crude term used by computer nerds in frustration meaning "Read the
fucking manual".

Usually means that you have asked a question that is covered in the basic
tutorials, or which is clearly documented somewhere or has already been
covered in previous discussions.


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Sent: 15 May 2001 12:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RTFM?


RTFM - I've seen this abbr. in use.
What does it stand for?

Sachin
PS.
I can see a few sniggering faces but how's a guy to know if he doen't ask?






Re: RTFM?

2001-05-15 Thread rday

Read The F'ing Manual

Roger





RE: RTFM?

2001-05-15 Thread William Kaufman

Please read the fine Jargon File, at http://www.tf.hut.fi/cgi-bin/jargon .


-- Bill K.


> -Original Message-
> From: Sachin Phatak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RTFM?
> 
> 
> RTFM - I've seen this abbr. in use.
> What does it stand for?
> 
> Sachin
> PS.
> I can see a few sniggering faces but how's a guy to know if 
> he doen't ask?
> 



Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Oscar Carrillo
That should've been RTFP. P=Post

Doesn't that just require a hyperlink? If you wanted to from your web page 
to google, you'd just have a hyperlink that goes "http://www.google.com/";

Unless you mean something different, that question begs the question:

Have you used a web browser before? ;-)

Oscar

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jerald Powel wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
> possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
> to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
> 
>  
> 
> forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...
> 
> to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).
> 
>   
> 
> It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile (RTFM), or 
> so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this. Surely not. Either way I 
> need to know. 
> 
>  
> 
> A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further direction after that 
> is of course appreciated!
> 
>   
> 
> Gerald.
> 
>  
> 
> P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Wilson, Allen
Have you tried using JavaScript. The window.location =
http://localhost:8080/app2 may work.

Allen

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From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:

 

forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).

  

It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 

 

A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!

  

Gerald.

 

P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this

 


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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel
Hi,
 Yes, I have tried all manner of things - client and server. The problem is that 
while the desired destination URL is oresent in the address bar, the session remains 
from the original. Hence a mutation with various error messages of the first can be 
seen.  
 
G.

Have you tried using JavaScript. The window.location =
http://localhost:8080/app2 may work.

Allen

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From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this




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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Keshav Sarin
Have you tried clearing the session before redirecting?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 03:41PM >>>
Hi,
 Yes, I have tried all manner of things - client and server. The
problem is that while the desired destination URL is oresent in the
address bar, the session remains from the original. Hence a mutation
with various error messages of the first can be seen.  
 
G.

Have you tried using JavaScript. The window.location =
http://localhost:8080/app2 may work.

Allen

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From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one
context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer
worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this




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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel
yes:
 
request.getSession().invalidate();
String page = "/app2/index.jsp?userid=aname"
response.sendRedirect(page);

//RequestDispatcher rd = request.getRequestDispatcher(page);
//rd.forward(request, response);
 
using the RequestDispatcher gets the same results. 
 
G. 

Keshav Sarin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you tried clearing the session before redirecting?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 03:41PM >>>
Hi,
Yes, I have tried all manner of things - client and server. The
problem is that while the desired destination URL is oresent in the
address bar, the session remains from the original. Hence a mutation
with various error messages of the first can be seen. 

G.

Have you tried using JavaScript. The window.location =
http://localhost:8080/app2 may work.

Allen

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From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one
context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer
worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this




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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread George Sexton
I generally don't think it is required to resort to things like this to
"get our attention". 

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From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
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Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:

 

forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).

  

It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 

 

A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!

  

Gerald.

 

P.S I am using Apache Tomcat 4.0.6, and have found no doco on this

 


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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel
in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body of the email. 

George Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I generally don't think it is required to 
resort to things like this to
"get our attention". 

-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread George Sexton
I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.

I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
your request for help.



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Subject: RE: RTFM


in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
of the email. 

George Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I generally don't think it
is required to resort to things like this to
"get our attention". 

-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel

Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was willing ot accept 
this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of hoping it stired more of an interest 
than a previous post onthe same topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I 
still dont have the answer!

I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.

I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
your request for help.



-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RTFM


in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
of the email. 

George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
is required to resort to things like this to
"get our attention". 

-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM



Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:



forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know. 



A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!



Gerald.



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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Justin Ruthenbeck
It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to 
accomplish.  The phrase "forward control from one context to another" is 
quite ambiguous:

* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from resources 
from multiple contexts?

* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a 
different app?

* Are you talking client side or server side?

* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing?  Often people ask 
questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to understand 
exactly what you're trying to do before going off and suggesting one of a 
hundred different possible answers.

justin

BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest any 
more.  It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you.  Your 
previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd be best 
to include copious information from the beginning (so you don't have to 
wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).

At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:

Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was 
willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of 
hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same 
topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have the 
answer!

I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.

I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
your request for help.


-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RTFM
in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
of the email.
George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
is required to resort to things like this to
"get our attention".
-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM


Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
to another, in the same browser window? i.e:


forward from http://locahost:8080/app1/...

to http://locahost:8080/app2/... in the same window (IE).



It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer worthwhile
(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely not. Either way I need to know.


A yes or no will suffice, is it possible? If it is, any further
direction after that is of course appreciated!


Gerald.



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RE: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel
OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the browser an app - 
app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply redirect to another app (app2 - 
different context) - to be loaded in the same browser window. By which means I forward 
I'm not fussed. Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or response.sendRedirect from a 
servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be loading in the address bar, 
but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image links/error messages etc. So it 
appears to looking in the right place...just for the wrong things! 
 
I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are fine.  Each app runs 
fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try to link the two togethertrouble. 
 
Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
 
G.  

Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to 
accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another" is 
quite ambiguous:

* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from resources 
from multiple contexts?

* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a 
different app?

* Are you talking client side or server side?

* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask 
questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to understand 
exactly what you're trying to do before going off and suggesting one of a 
hundred different possible answers.

justin

BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest any 
more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you. Your 
previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd be best 
to include copious information from the beginning (so you don't have to 
wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).


At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:

>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was 
>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of 
>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same 
>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have the 
>answer!
>
>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
>
>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
>was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
>your request for help.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: RE: RTFM
>
>
>in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
>of the email.
>
>George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
>is required to resort to things like this to
>"get our attention".
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: RTFM
>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
>possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
>to another, in the same browser window? i.e:


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Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerry Ford
Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it should 
work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess):  After your 
response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include an 
explicit return statement?

Jerry

Jerald Powel wrote:

OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the browser an app - app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply redirect to another app (app2 - different context) - to be loaded in the same browser window. By which means I forward I'm not fussed. Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or response.sendRedirect from a servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be loading in the address bar, but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image links/error messages etc. So it appears to looking in the right place...just for the wrong things! 

I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are fine.  Each app runs fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try to link the two togethertrouble. 

Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!

G.  

Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to 
accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another" is 
quite ambiguous:

* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from resources 
from multiple contexts?

* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a 
different app?

* Are you talking client side or server side?

* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask 
questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to understand 
exactly what you're trying to do before going off and suggesting one of a 
hundred different possible answers.

justin

BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest any 
more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you. Your 
previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd be best 
to include copious information from the beginning (so you don't have to 
wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).

At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:

 

Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was 
willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of 
hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same 
topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have the 
answer!

I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.

I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
your request for help.


-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RTFM
in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
of the email.
George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
is required to resort to things like this to
"get our attention".
-Original Message-
From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RTFM


Hi,

Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
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to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
   



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Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Apu Shah

also make sure you have crossContext="true" in your respective 
directives in server.xml


On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:40:33 -0800
Jerry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it
> should work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess):  After your 
> response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include an 
> explicit return statement?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Jerald Powel wrote:
> 
> >OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the
> >browser an app - app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply
> >redirect to another app (app2 - different context) - to be loaded in
> >the same browser window. By which means I forward I'm not fussed.
> >Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or response.sendRedirect from
> >a servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be loading in
> >the address bar, but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image
> >links/error messages etc. So it appears to looking in the right
> >place...just for the wrong things! 
> > 
> >I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are
> >fine.  Each app runs fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try
> >to link the two togethertrouble. 
> > 
> >Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
> > 
> >G.  
> >
> >Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to 
> >accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another"
> >is quite ambiguous:
> >
> >* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from
> >resources from multiple contexts?
> >
> >* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a 
> >different app?
> >
> >* Are you talking client side or server side?
> >
> >* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask 
> >questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to
> >understand exactly what you're trying to do before going off and
> >suggesting one of a hundred different possible answers.
> >
> >justin
> >
> >BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest
> >any more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you.
> >Your previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd
> >be best to include copious information from the beginning (so you
> >don't have to wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).
> >
> >
> >At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was 
> >>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of 
> >>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same
> >
> >>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have
> >the >answer!
> >>
> >>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
> >>
> >>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the
> >subject>was designed to generate additional interest and to work to
> >prioritize>your request for help.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
> >>To: Tomcat Users List
> >>Subject: RE: RTFM
> >>
> >>
> >>in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of
> >body>of the email.
> >>
> >>George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
> >>is required to resort to things like this to
> >>"get our attention".
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
> >>To: Tomcat Users List
> >>Subject: RTFM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
> >>possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one
> >context>to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
> >>
> >>
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Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Ben Souther
There is no need to set crossContext to true if you are doing this with 
response.sendRedirect  as you are just telling the browser to hit a different 
URL.




On Wednesday 14 January 2004 08:50 pm, you wrote:
> also make sure you have crossContext="true" in your respective 
> directives in server.xml
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:40:33 -0800
>
> Jerry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it
> > should work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess):  After your
> > response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include an
> > explicit return statement?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jerald Powel wrote:
> > >OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the
> > >browser an app - app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply
> > >redirect to another app (app2 - different context) - to be loaded in
> > >the same browser window. By which means I forward I'm not fussed.
> > >Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or response.sendRedirect from
> > >a servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be loading in
> > >the address bar, but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image
> > >links/error messages etc. So it appears to looking in the right
> > >place...just for the wrong things!
> > >
> > >I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are
> > >fine.  Each app runs fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try
> > >to link the two togethertrouble.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
> > >
> > >G.
> > >
> > >Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to
> > >accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another"
> > >is quite ambiguous:
> > >
> > >* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from
> > >resources from multiple contexts?
> > >
> > >* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a
> > >different app?
> > >
> > >* Are you talking client side or server side?
> > >
> > >* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask
> > >questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to
> > >understand exactly what you're trying to do before going off and
> > >suggesting one of a hundred different possible answers.
> > >
> > >justin
> > >
> > >BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest
> > >any more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you.
> > >Your previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd
> > >be best to include copious information from the beginning (so you
> > >don't have to wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).
> > >
> > >At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
> > >>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was
> > >>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of
> > >>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same
> > >>
> > >>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have
> > >
> > >the >answer!
> > >
> > >>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
> > >>
> > >>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the
> > >
> > >subject>was designed to generate additional interest and to work to
> > >prioritize>your request for help.
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
> > >>To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>Subject: RE: RTFM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of
> > >
> > >body>of the email.
> > >
> > >>George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
> > >>is required to resort to things like this to
> > >>"get our attention".
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
> > >>To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>Subject: RTFM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
> > >>possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one
> > >
> > >context>to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
> > >
> > >
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Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Apu Shah

yes, you are right. i was thinking of server side forwarding

RequestDispatcher rd =
getServletConfig().getServletContext().getRequestDispatcher("/app1");

rd.forward(req,resp);



On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:48:03 -0500
Ben Souther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is no need to set crossContext to true if you are doing this
> with response.sendRedirect  as you are just telling the browser to hit
> a different URL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 14 January 2004 08:50 pm, you wrote:
> > also make sure you have crossContext="true" in your respective
> >  directives in server.xml
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:40:33 -0800
> >
> > Jerry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it
> > > should work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess):  After your
> > > response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include
> > > an explicit return statement?
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Jerald Powel wrote:
> > > >OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in
> > > >the browser an app - app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to
> > > >simply redirect to another app (app2 - different context) - to be
> > > >loaded in the same browser window. By which means I forward I'm
> > > >not fussed. Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or
> > > >response.sendRedirect from a servlet in app1. But in the window,
> > > >app2 appeqars to be loading in the address bar, but app1 is in
> > > >fact loaded but with broken image links/error messages etc. So it
> > > >appears to looking in the right place...just for the wrong
> > > >things!
> > > >
> > > >I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are
> > > >fine.  Each app runs fine if loaded from new windows, but when I
> > > >try to link the two togethertrouble.
> > > >
> > > >Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
> > > >
> > > >G.
> > > >
> > > >Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying
> > > >to accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to
> > > >another" is quite ambiguous:
> > > >
> > > >* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from
> > > >resources from multiple contexts?
> > > >
> > > >* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in
> > > >a different app?
> > > >
> > > >* Are you talking client side or server side?
> > > >
> > > >* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people
> > > >ask questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to
> > > >understand exactly what you're trying to do before going off and
> > > >suggesting one of a hundred different possible answers.
> > > >
> > > >justin
> > > >
> > > >BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring
> > > >interest any more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can
> > > >most help you. Your previous post was not answered because it was
> > > >ambiguous, so it'd be best to include copious information from
> > > >the beginning (so you don't have to wait so long for a reply or
> > > >cause subject pollution).
> > > >
> > > >At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
> > > >>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I
> > > >was>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am
> > > >guilty of>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous
> > > >post onthe same>
> > > >>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont
> > > >have
> > > >
> > > >the >answer!
> > > >
> > > >>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
> > > >>
> > > >>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the
> > > >
> > > >subject>was designed to generate additional interest and to work
> > > >to prioritize>your request for help.
> > > >
> > > >>-Original Message-
> &

Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Ben Souther
There is no need to set crossContext to true if you are doing this with 
response.sendRedirect  as you are just telling the browser to hit a different 
URL.




On Wednesday 14 January 2004 08:50 pm, you wrote:
> also make sure you have crossContext="true" in your respective 
> directives in server.xml
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:40:33 -0800
>
> Jerry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it
> > should work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess):  After your
> > response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include an
> > explicit return statement?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jerald Powel wrote:
> > >OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the
> > >browser an app - app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply
> > >redirect to another app (app2 - different context) - to be loaded in
> > >the same browser window. By which means I forward I'm not fussed.
> > >Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or response.sendRedirect from
> > >a servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be loading in
> > >the address bar, but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image
> > >links/error messages etc. So it appears to looking in the right
> > >place...just for the wrong things!
> > >
> > >I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are
> > >fine.  Each app runs fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try
> > >to link the two togethertrouble.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
> > >
> > >G.
> > >
> > >Justin Ruthenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to
> > >accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another"
> > >is quite ambiguous:
> > >
> > >* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from
> > >resources from multiple contexts?
> > >
> > >* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a
> > >different app?
> > >
> > >* Are you talking client side or server side?
> > >
> > >* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask
> > >questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to
> > >understand exactly what you're trying to do before going off and
> > >suggesting one of a hundred different possible answers.
> > >
> > >justin
> > >
> > >BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest
> > >any more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you.
> > >Your previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd
> > >be best to include copious information from the beginning (so you
> > >don't have to wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).
> > >
> > >At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
> > >>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was
> > >>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of
> > >>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same
> > >>
> > >>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have
> > >
> > >the >answer!
> > >
> > >>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
> > >>
> > >>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the
> > >
> > >subject>was designed to generate additional interest and to work to
> > >prioritize>your request for help.
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
> > >>To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>Subject: RE: RTFM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of
> > >
> > >body>of the email.
> > >
> > >>George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
> > >>is required to resort to things like this to
> > >>"get our attention".
> > >>
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
> > >>To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>Subject: RTFM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
> > >>possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one
> > >
> > >context>to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
> > >
> > >
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Re: RTFM

2004-01-14 Thread Jerald Powel
no, I'm not returning anything from the servlet. 
 
I am now telling the servlet to forward to a JSP then use a javascript 
window.location.replace(page). SAME!
 Tell me, is a fully formed URL necessary here? e.g:
 
window.location.replace(http://lalala:8080/app2/index.jsp);
 
or 
 
response.sendRedirect("http://lalala:8080/app2/index.jsp";);
 
to switch between contexts? No that I can sucessfully forward to the destination app 
with ANY URL format!
 
thanks for your efforts
 
G.
 

Jerry Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay, from this detailed description---which sounds to me like it should 
work---here's my SWAG (silly wild-ass guess): After your 
response.sendRedirect() in the servlett, do you, um, well, include an 
explicit return statement?

Jerry

Jerald Powel wrote:

>OK, what I am trying to do is simple in theory. I have loaded in the browser an app - 
>app1/. From a servlet in app1 I want to simply redirect to another app (app2 - 
>different context) - to be loaded in the same browser window. By which means I 
>forward I'm not fussed. Currently I am using RequestDispatcher or 
>response.sendRedirect from a servlet in app1. But in the window, app2 appeqars to be 
>loading in the address bar, but app1 is in fact loaded but with broken image 
>links/error messages etc. So it appears to looking in the right place...just for the 
>wrong things! 
> 
>I have checked docBase for each context in server.xml - they are fine. Each app runs 
>fine if loaded from new windows, but when I try to link the two togethertrouble. 
> 
>Any thoughts please? I am ready to throw in the towel!
> 
>G. 
>
>Justin Ruthenbeck wrote:
>
>It'd difficult from your poast to figure out what you're trying to 
>accomplish. The phrase "forward control from one context to another" is 
>quite ambiguous:
>
>* Are you trying to create a response that includes output from resources 
>from multiple contexts?
>
>* While using one app, do you want to direct the user to pages in a 
>different app?
>
>* Are you talking client side or server side?
>
>* Can you give us the scenario you're addressing? Often people ask 
>questions that aren't phrased properly, so it's important to understand 
>exactly what you're trying to do before going off and suggesting one of a 
>hundred different possible answers.
>
>justin
>
>BTW: I would suggest trying not to be "guilty" of stiring interest any 
>more. It's not looked fondly upon by those who can most help you. Your 
>previous post was not answered because it was ambiguous, so it'd be best 
>to include copious information from the beginning (so you don't have to 
>wait so long for a reply or cause subject pollution).
>
>
>At 04:45 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
>
> 
>
>>Both! The answer to my query may well lie in my ignorance and I was 
>>willing ot accept this, hence the subject title. But I am guilty of 
>>hoping it stired more of an interest than a previous post onthe same 
>>topic, with different subject (no replies)...and I still dont have the 
>>answer!
>>
>>I guess it just shows how much perceptions can vary with Email.
>>
>>I read your first paragraph and formed the impression that the subject
>>was designed to generate additional interest and to work to prioritize
>>your request for help.
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:33 PM
>>To: Tomcat Users List
>>Subject: RE: RTFM
>>
>>
>>in traditional fashion, the subject was related to the contents of body
>>of the email.
>>
>>George Sexton wrote:I generally don't think it
>>is required to resort to things like this to
>>"get our attention".
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jerald Powel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:11 PM
>>To: Tomcat Users List
>>Subject: RTFM
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Now I have your attention, will someone tell me if it is
>>possible to forward control (either by JSP or Servlet) from one context
>>to another, in the same browser window? i.e:
>> 
>>
>
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Re: RTFM

2004-01-15 Thread Carlos Pereira
> no, I'm not returning anything from the servlet.
It's not "returning anything"! You must return after using sendRedirect,
otherwise your servlet will continue running. That's probably the problem,
as it redirects you to another page, but continues it's execution. Try
returning.

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RE: RTFM

2004-01-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>It is either so glaringly obvious that no one deems an answer
worthwhile
>(RTFM), or so really really difficult, and no one knows how do this.
Surely
>not. Either way I need to know.

Don't forget two more options: people don't care to read your message at
all, or they read it and don't care for the tone.  Either one is highly
likely with this message.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: RTFM

2004-01-15 Thread Januski, Ken
and let us know if it worked.

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> no, I'm not returning anything from the servlet.
It's not "returning anything"! You must return after using sendRedirect,
otherwise your servlet will continue running. That's probably the problem,
as it redirects you to another page, but continues it's execution. Try
returning.

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Re: RTFM and Ettiquette was: MY ATTITUDE

2003-02-14 Thread Paul Brinkley
At 05:59 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, Jeff Wishnie wrote:

Although I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment--do your homework 
before asking for help--lets not forget that given the
disorganized state of most opensource documentation, being pointed to the 
proper docs helps a lot.

Specifically, when someone asks a question that is answered in some docs, 
a useful answer would be something like:

"You'll find the web.xml format explained in Sun's Servlet 2.3 spec, 
available at java.sun.com"

Replying "Yo, just, RTFM" is rude and not helpful to anyone.

I'm pretty new to Tomcat as well and appreciate being pointed to the place 
where I can find an answer as much as being given told an
answer directly.

Having to manually repost a link to the documentation over and
over again gets tiresome.  The clever list member will quickly
make a handy list of links to post automatically in response,
but still has to go through the trouble of posting it repeatedly,
and it also clutters the list.

The solution that causes the least amount of distress to all
parties (that I can think of) is to teach netiquette to Internet
newcomers in some hard-to-avoid location.  It can be physical
(school courses, savvy parents, etc.) or virtual (a website, or
a tutorial in an Internet provider's software package).  That
netiquette must at the very least instruct newcomers how to find
online answers to a question:

1. Locate an official homepage for the topic, using a web search
   engine.
2a. Search archives of an official discussion forum, mailing
list, Usenet group, etc. for the answer.
2b. Search above for an FAQ.
3. Search the web in general.
4. Post to a forum, asking the question, asking for an FAQ if
   one couldn't be found by now, being polite and specific.

These should be done in the order given (2a and 2b can be in
either order as you like).  #4 absolutely, positively should be
a last-ditch option.  This is the only way we are going to
properly leverage computer automation, until NLU is achieved;
going to 4 before 1, 2, or 3 in effect requires everyone to have
their own personal research assistant, which is ludicrously
impractical in the long run.

Unfortunately, this is a culture change, and hence it will take
a while, possibly as much as a generation (25 years) or more.
Those of you with kids: start now...


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Re: RTFM and Ettiquette was: MY ATTITUDE

2003-02-17 Thread Erik Price


Paul Brinkley wrote:


The solution that causes the least amount of distress to all
parties (that I can think of) is to teach netiquette to Internet
newcomers in some hard-to-avoid location.


[...]


Unfortunately, this is a culture change, and hence it will take
a while, possibly as much as a generation (25 years) or more.
Those of you with kids: start now...


And those of you who refuse to do some legwork before posting to the 
list, please don't have kids.



Erik


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