Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
I just would like to correct my incomplete PyQT pricing list from above and mislead none. If you intent to write commercial programs you have to pay: 400 EURO for PyQT AND3000 EURO for QT !!! - On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, andré palma andre...@gmail.com wrote: Neven Goršić wrote: Thank you all. It was not easy to decide what to learn/use, so I Google some more. I have found that PyQT is more stable, faster, more consistent and more expensive :). 400 EURO is too much for playing around with some GUI, but GPL licence resolves that issue. The cons are C++ oriented documentation, editor and some structures ... Neven --- On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:10 AM, johnf jfabi...@yolo.com mailto:jfabi...@yolo.com wrote: On Wednesday 04 March 2009 04:56:37 pm Alan Gauld wrote: Kent Johnson ken...@tds.net mailto:ken...@tds.net wrote I've heard good things about Dabo, never tried it myself though. http://dabodev.com/ I looked at Dabo but decided not to try it since it was yet another framework. Although it's based on wxPython they have layered their own widgets on top which is what the GUI Builder uses. (PythonCard fell into the same hole) Yes, it's true that Dabo has wrapped (subclassed) most of the controls. The purpose of course was to provide developer ease of use. If you are building a real business app then I doubt there is anything better in the python world. I personally have used both VB and Delphi and see Dabo on the same level. With one exception - we have a beta GUI builder. Everything that has been done in Dabo is the very same things that all developers would be required to do if they access a database and associate fields to controls. BTW there is nothing stopping a Dabo developer from directly using wx controls. Dabo prevents nothing. So Alan, I don't see my work as falling into any hole. But the web pages and writeup looked good and the forum seemed to be active and not all negative. Alan G Hey, i've found your discussion interesting. I'm developing my final course project and i'm using a toll called Glade to create my application. It has a IDE that let you to create your windows, with text boxes, combo boxes ... everything! And the really good thing: it is totally open source =) It's quit simple to do applications with glade. You just have to create your GUI with it IDE and then you just need to link the signals to de functions that actually preform actions. GLADE: http://glade.gnome.org/ http://www.pygtk.org/articles/pygtk-glade-gui/Creating_a_GUI_using_PyGTK_and_Glade.htm (examples how to use glade and pyGTK) and if you look for it in youtube there is a lot of a good video tutorials -- John Fabiani ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org mailto:Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
2009/3/16 Neven Goršić neven.gor...@gmail.com: I just would like to correct my incomplete PyQT pricing list from above and mislead none. If you intent to write commercial programs you have to pay: 400 EURO for PyQT AND 3000 EURO for QT !!! actually, QT is moving to LGPL, so in the near future you may be able not to pay anything even for writing some proprietary programs anyway, you're still free to use the GPL version to play around with it and to develop free software apps -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
2009/3/16 Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com: 2009/3/16 Neven Goršić neven.gor...@gmail.com: I just would like to correct my incomplete PyQT pricing list from above and mislead none. If you intent to write commercial programs you have to pay: 400 EURO for PyQT AND 3000 EURO for QT !!! actually, QT is moving to LGPL, so in the near future you may be able not to pay anything even for writing some proprietary programs Qt is available now under LGPL. PyQt is still GPL / Commercial AFAICT. anyway, you're still free to use the GPL version to play around with it and to develop free software apps Yes, but be careful with the playing around - Both the Qt and PyQt Commercial Licenses prevent you from developing code using the GPL versions and subsequently selling that code under the commercial license. You must purchase a commercial license at the start of your development. http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/license Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
Thank you all. It was not easy to decide what to learn/use, so I Google some more. I have found that PyQT is more stable, faster, more consistent and more expensive :). 400 € is too much for playing around with some GUI, but GPL licence resolves that issue. The cons are C++ oriented documentation, editor and some structures ... Neven --- On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:10 AM, johnf jfabi...@yolo.com wrote: On Wednesday 04 March 2009 04:56:37 pm Alan Gauld wrote: Kent Johnson ken...@tds.net wrote I've heard good things about Dabo, never tried it myself though. http://dabodev.com/ I looked at Dabo but decided not to try it since it was yet another framework. Although it's based on wxPython they have layered their own widgets on top which is what the GUI Builder uses. (PythonCard fell into the same hole) Yes, it's true that Dabo has wrapped (subclassed) most of the controls. The purpose of course was to provide developer ease of use. If you are building a real business app then I doubt there is anything better in the python world. I personally have used both VB and Delphi and see Dabo on the same level. With one exception - we have a beta GUI builder. Everything that has been done in Dabo is the very same things that all developers would be required to do if they access a database and associate fields to controls. BTW there is nothing stopping a Dabo developer from directly using wx controls. Dabo prevents nothing. So Alan, I don't see my work as falling into any hole. But the web pages and writeup looked good and the forum seemed to be active and not all negative. Alan G -- John Fabiani ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
Neven Gorsic neven.gor...@gmail.com wrote I read also that none of them are even near as good as Delphi or VB. Is it really so? I had a look around various GUII building tools for wxPython but none of them were near Delphi/VB standard. I've never used pyQT or even vanilla Qt so the idea of learning yet another GUI toolkit kept me away from that. FWIW The only Gui builder I got to work even half way decently was the one in SPE. But in practice I still just hand crank them... Its really not that much harder for the small scale stuff I do. If I had a big GUI project I suspect I'd build it in Delphi and call out to Python using COM or somesuch. Alan G. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
There is a not-free GUI builder, wxDesigner, that isn't too bad (except for costing money). http://www.roebling.de The GLADE GUI builder for Gtk is very nice, however. http://www.pygtk.org/ For windows: http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/ Cheers ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Neven Goršić neven.gor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I am about to begin to learn GUI programming with Python. What are pros and cons for PyQT and wxPython? I read that PyQT has PyQT Designer which makes GUI programming easier. Is it owned and supported by Nokia? What about wxPython? Boa Constructor is not developed any more ... Is there any program like QT Designer? I've heard good things about Dabo, never tried it myself though. http://dabodev.com/ Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] wxPython vs PyQt
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 04:56:37 pm Alan Gauld wrote: Kent Johnson ken...@tds.net wrote I've heard good things about Dabo, never tried it myself though. http://dabodev.com/ I looked at Dabo but decided not to try it since it was yet another framework. Although it's based on wxPython they have layered their own widgets on top which is what the GUI Builder uses. (PythonCard fell into the same hole) Yes, it's true that Dabo has wrapped (subclassed) most of the controls. The purpose of course was to provide developer ease of use. If you are building a real business app then I doubt there is anything better in the python world. I personally have used both VB and Delphi and see Dabo on the same level. With one exception - we have a beta GUI builder. Everything that has been done in Dabo is the very same things that all developers would be required to do if they access a database and associate fields to controls. BTW there is nothing stopping a Dabo developer from directly using wx controls. Dabo prevents nothing. So Alan, I don't see my work as falling into any hole. But the web pages and writeup looked good and the forum seemed to be active and not all negative. Alan G -- John Fabiani ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
