Re: [Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread Alan Gauld

On 03/10/13 13:58, David wrote:


Python installation (?), to a general public mailing list ...


... which has 100's of readers all around the world.


Almost 4000...

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Re: [Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread David
On 3 October 2013 20:51, Walter Prins  wrote:
> Hi Carolynn,
>
> On 3 October 2013 03:01, carolynn fryer  wrote:
>>
>> I am at the point where I am just spinning my wheels.  I tried to get help
>> with logging on but so far I am just getting frustrated.
>
> Please note that you've sent an email regarding what appears to be possibly
> be specific issues related to your PC's (?) and logging on (?) and/or your
> Python installation (?), to a general public mailing list ...

... which has 100's of readers all around the world.
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Re: [Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Prins
Hi Carolynn,

On 3 October 2013 03:01, carolynn fryer  wrote:

> I am at the point where I am just spinning my wheels.  I tried to get help
> with logging on but so far I am just getting frustrated.
>
>
Please note that you've sent an email regarding what appears to be possibly
be specific issues related to your PC's (?) and logging on (?) and/or your
Python installation (?), to a general public mailing list concerned with
learning the Python programming language.  Please understand that the
people on this list are volunteers, willing to help people *learn Python*,
not solve arbitrary PC issues.

It is not a "I'll solve all obscure PC issues posted by random strangers on
the internet" list.   Given the voluntary nature of this list, some of the
contributors understandably don't take too kindly to people who appear vent
their frustrations on them out of the blue, and seem to demand solving of
their problems when they're already donating their valuable time for free.
So, please don't be offended if some of the responses appear to be harsh.

Usually, much more light and less heat can be generated by being less
emotive and providing just the facts for people to work with, for example:
- What version of Operating systems are you using (OK, Windows 7&8, but 32
bit or 64-bit?)
- What version(s) of Python did you install?  (2.7 or 3.3, 32 bit or 64-bit)
- What exactly did you do? (How are you running your Python interpreter and
what you are then doing that's not working?)
- What actually happened/didn't work?
- What did you expect to happen?

Here's a video that was produced by one of the contributors on this list
that details how to install Python on Windows 7.  Maybe following this can
help you resolve your (what sounds to me to be installation) issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnAsMQbCVXA

Walter
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Re: [Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Angel
On 2/10/2013 22:01, carolynn fryer wrote:


> the fact that I can not run anything without getting a syntax error.  I
> tried setting up a path for python environment variables and a few other 
> things but I am getting no where.

Welcome to the Python tutor mailing list.  I deleted all the irrelevant
parts of your post so that we could see how you described your problem.

You're running Windows 7 (or 8), and you've installed Python version
x.xx, which you downloaded from http://www.yyy./

After installation, which gave no errors, you tried typing in the
following 5 line Python program into the file  XX.PL, using the
JJJ.COM

text editor.

#!Q//QQ

import ZZZ
for zzz in x:
print ("xxx"



You ran this program from the CMD box, using the Windows command:

XXxx > pythonXZZ  myprogE.44

and you got the following output:

932873297843294327432 n  432983274329743
2974393287432
239873249734

You guess we might want to know the folloiwing environment variables:

PATH=lasjf;ljdsaf;ljfds;afjljlfdsjjfdsafds;
PYTHONBADPATH=ljfdsljsfdlfdsjlfdskjfds

You want to know how to correct the above explicit error.


Now, that message we could probably handle, obviously depending on the
details.

-- 
DaveA


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Re: [Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-10-02 19:01, carolynn fryer wrote:
> I am at the point where I am just spinning my wheels.  I tried to get help
> with logging on but so far I am just getting frustrated.
>  
> I have a problem that I brought up the first night in class but couldn't seem
> to get help then.  Sorry if I am at the point where I am totally frustrated
> and I need HELP. PLEASE.  I did not turn in homework because of the fact that
> I can not run anything without getting a syntax error.  I tried setting up a
> path for python environment variables and a few other things but I am getting
> no where.
>  
> Can you give me some suggestions why I can't run anything.  I have windows 7
> on my home computer, and windows 8 on my laptop and they are both doing the
> same thing.  So it has to be something I am doing or not doing.  I really do
> not like being behind/late in anything so that is making me even more
> frustrated.  I suppose I am even more frustrated and afraid to ask because I
> kink of got a slap in the face last time I took a course here and the
> instructor would not help.  But that was a way different situation, I simply
> could not understand his English and then he told me he did not have any
> patience.  Excuse me but I just about died when he, an INSTRUCTOR told me
> that.  I worked at Stanford for 25 years and to hear an instructor say those
> words was unthinkable.  Anyway you can maybe understand my reluctance to ask
> for help but I need help.  Any suggestions??  When I use one of the computers
> at school everything works just fine.  Except I can not get my own computer
> to log on when I am there.  So again that is why I said it is my system and
> something in my set up that I don't have.
>  
> Sorry for the long note, I was just letting out a little frustration.  LOL
> Thx for any suggestions, Carolynn Fryer
>  
> ps: I know this is not the proper way to get ahold of you but I could not
> find nor have time to find any other way.  The UCSC system is not very user
> friendly  

I genuinely have no idea what we are supposed to do with this unfocused
diatribe. It would be good if you could avoid copying tutor@ to your inane
UCSC-centric rants in future.

You have, however, given absolutely no information that could help anyone in
diagnosing your problem. I don't have the patience to wade through this
contextless rant. In future:

- Nobody on this list cares about what you have to say about UCSC;
- Please get to the point;
- Please include actual examples of error messages you face instead of just
  describing them.

Thanks.


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[Tutor] HELP I need help with Python Setup or to reach Marilyn Davis

2013-10-03 Thread carolynn fryer
I am at the point where I am just spinning my wheels.  I tried to get help with 
logging on but so far I am just getting frustrated.
 
I have a problem that I brought up the first night in class but couldn't seem 
to get help then.  Sorry if I am at the point where I am totally frustrated and 
I need HELP. PLEASE.
I did not turn in homework because of the fact that I can not run anything 
without getting a syntax error.  I tried setting up a path for python 
environment variables and a few other things but I am getting no where.
 
Can you give me some suggestions why I can't run anything.  I have windows 7 on 
my home computer, and windows 8 on my laptop and they are both doing the same 
thing.  So it has to be something I am doing or not doing.
I really do not like being behind/late in anything so that is making me even 
more frustrated.
I suppose I am even more frustrated and afraid to ask because I kink of got a 
slap in the face last time I took a course here and the instructor would not 
help.  But that was a way different situation, I simply could not understand 
his English and then he told me he did not have any patience.  Excuse me but I 
just about died when he, an INSTRUCTOR told me that.  I worked at Stanford for 
25 years and to hear an instructor say those words was unthinkable.  Anyway you 
can maybe understand my reluctance to ask for help but I need help.  Any 
suggestions??
When I use one of the computers at school everything works just fine.  Except I 
can not get my own computer to log on when I am there.  So again that is why I 
said it is my system and something in my set up that I don't have.
 
Sorry for the long note, I was just letting out a little frustration.  LOL
Thx for any suggestions, Carolynn Fryer
 
ps: I know this is not the proper way to get ahold of you but I could not find 
nor have time to find any other way.  
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