RE: [U2] sql server & universe

2005-11-23 Thread Tony Gravagno
I fully agree with Dave.  One of the purposes of data typing is to catch
data errors - we tend to miss that when using MV.  Another purpose is to
define memory blocks that are right-sized for the data you need, so that no
memory is wasted and/or it can be used more effiiciently.  Understand your
data and ensure the typing corresponds.  Don't just leave the doors
unlocked (unlimited data sizes) because you don't like to pull out your
keys (data types/sizes) to open the doors.

Something else, I've found it convenient to use different dict definitions
which are used by SQL than those which are used by MV reports.  This allows
the SQL definitions to be tweaked without affecting existing and stable
reports.  Ever increase the size of a dict item by one character and had
someone screaming a week later that reports were running down the page
instead of across?  ;)

And Daniel, if you have a customer who is selling widgets for a billion
dollars each, give them whatever the hell they want! lol

T

David Tod Sigafoos wrote:
> Your best bet is to make your dictionaries match the
> data.  Not sure I would actually make the fields lenght
> 999 but instead write a routine to examine the data and
> let you know the best size to make it.  If 13 char is the
> longest(in this case) then smudge to 14 if you think the
> data will change to that. 
> 
> Daniel wrote:
...
>> we have a customer using SQL Server 2000 making queries
>> to a UV 10.1.11 server
>> and the length of the data is 12 or higher (like if the
>> widget price was 9.99), this will cause the SQL
>> Server query to fail with a "data value overflowed the
>> data type used by the provider" error.
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RE: [U2] sql server & universe {Unclassified}

2005-11-22 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
David, 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tod
Sigafoos
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:06
> To: Daniel Perttula
> Subject: Re: [U2] sql server & universe
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> SQL is pretty insistent on data being what it is defined as 
> (a feature for some .. a drawback for others)
> 
> Your best bet is to make your dictionaries match the data.  
> Not sure I would actually make the fields lenght 999 but 
> instead write a routine to examine the data and let you know 
> the best size to make it.  

Doesn't HS.SCRUB do this for you?  Then you can describe the data
correctly in Attribute 10.

Or

Leave that attribute blank [except for fields which need correct
description like DATE, or DECIMAL 12,2] and describe everything else on
the SQL side as VARCHAR(255)

HTH

Mike


> If 13 char is the longest(in this case) then smudge to 14 if you 
> think the data will change to that.
> 
> Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 3:40:56 PM, you wrote:
> 
> DP> Hello all - quick question for the SQL gurus out there, we have a 
> DP> customer using SQL Server 2000 making queries to a UV 10.1.11 
> DP> server. We've noted that SQL Server errors out if the data in any 
> DP> field matches or exceeds the field length specified in the field 
> DP> dictionary. For example if we have a
> DP> dictionary:
> 
> DP> WIDGET.PRICE
> DP> <1> A
> DP> <2> 100
> DP> <3> WIDGET PRICE
> DP> <4>
> DP> <5>
> DP> <6>
> DP> <7> MD2
> DP> <8>
> DP> <9> R
> DP> <10> 12
> 
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RE: [U2] sql server & universe

2005-11-22 Thread gerry-u2ug
my guess is that a numeric of size 999 will barf just as bad and on every value.
simply specify the sql data type as something reasonable like DECIMAL,19,2

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Subject: [U2] sql server & universe


Hello all - quick question for the SQL gurus out there, we have a customer
using SQL Server 2000 making queries to a UV 10.1.11 server. We've noted
that SQL Server errors out if the data in any field matches or exceeds the
field length specified in the field dictionary. For example if we have a
dictionary:

WIDGET.PRICE
<1> A
<2> 100
<3> WIDGET PRICE
<4>
<5>
<6>
<7> MD2
<8>
<9> R
<10> 12

and the length of the data is 12 or higher (like if the widget price was
9.99), this will cause the SQL Server query to fail with a "data
value overflowed the data type used by the provider" error. We are
considering bumping the field lengths for all of our ODBC field dictionaries
up to 999 or higher just to avoid these errors. Are there any negatives to
doing this, specifically could it cause problems for SQL Server? Or is there
another way to handle this (like a query option or switch or ??)

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Dan

Daniel Perttula
Mortgage Builder Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 850-8060 x 111
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Re: [U2] sql server & universe

2005-11-22 Thread David Tod Sigafoos
Daniel,

SQL is pretty insistent on data being what it is defined as (a feature
for some .. a drawback for others)

Your best bet is to make your dictionaries match the data.  Not sure I
would actually make the fields lenght 999 but instead write a routine
to examine the data and let you know the best size to make it.  If 13
char is the longest(in this case) then smudge to 14 if you think the
data will change to that.

Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 3:40:56 PM, you wrote:

DP> Hello all - quick question for the SQL gurus out there, we have a customer
DP> using SQL Server 2000 making queries to a UV 10.1.11 server. We've noted
DP> that SQL Server errors out if the data in any field matches or exceeds the
DP> field length specified in the field dictionary. For example if we have a
DP> dictionary:

DP> WIDGET.PRICE
DP> <1> A
DP> <2> 100
DP> <3> WIDGET PRICE
DP> <4>
DP> <5>
DP> <6>
DP> <7> MD2
DP> <8>
DP> <9> R
DP> <10> 12

DP> and the length of the data is 12 or higher (like if the widget price was
DP> 9.99), this will cause the SQL Server query to fail with a "data
DP> value overflowed the data type used by the provider" error. We are
DP> considering bumping the field lengths for all of our ODBC field dictionaries
DP> up to 999 or higher just to avoid these errors. Are there any negatives to
DP> doing this, specifically could it cause problems for SQL Server? Or is there
DP> another way to handle this (like a query option or switch or ??)

DP> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!
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