Re: [Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-17 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 12-02-16 16:42, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:
> On 12-02-16 10:08, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
>> Energy should now probably be spent in making sure that Xerial, the
>> next LTS release is well tested and has the packages we want. The
>> debian import freeze is later this month, so now is the last time to
>> act.
> 
> The DebianImportFreeze is scheduled for February 18th according to the
> release schedule [0].
> 
> Almost everything from Debian unstable is in xenial already, some
> desired packages are still in proposed which may need some help to get
> into the release before the freeze:
> 
>  - gdal (1.11.3+dfsg-3)
>This should get into xenial, has fix for segfault with SQLite 3.10.0.
> 
>  - grass (7.0.3-1)
>This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.
> 
>  - libgdal-grass
>This should get into xenial, required for GRASS 7.0.3.
> 
>  - netcdf (1:4.4.0-1)
>This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.
> 
>  - netcdf-fortran (4.4.3-1)
>This should get into xenial, latest upstream release and
>required for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.
> 
>  - netcdf-cxx (4.2.1-3)
>This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.
> 
>  - netcdf-cxx-legacy (4.2-4)
>This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.
> 
>  - netcdf4-python (1.2.2-2)
>This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.
> 
>  - python-cligj (0.4.0-1)
>This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.

The above have found their way from proposed into release, the below has
not. The ImportFreeze is today, so I doubt these will get into xenial
before the release.

>  - fiona (1.6.3-2)
>Not really important, but includes support for GDAL 2.0.
> 
> Special mention for ossim (1.8.20.3+ds-2) which is required for OTB 5.2.
> 
> Ubuntu chose to diverge from Debian for its GCC 5 transition, but now
> wants the Debian maintainers to carry the Breaks/Replaces changes only
> required for Ubuntu before merging the new ossim package. [1]
> 
> I've so far refrained from doing so, because I think the burden should
> be on Ubuntu to carry that change because they chose to ignore the
> maintainers in Debian when doing their GCC 5 transition.
> 
> To get OSSIM 1.8.20-3 into xenial someone else may need to prepare
> ossim (1.8.20.3+ds-2ubuntu1) [2] with the Breaks/Replaces changes
> required for Ubuntu if the Ubuntu people cannot be bothered to deal with
> the issues they created.
> 
> [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ossim/+bug/1529157
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Re: [Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-12 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 12-02-16 10:08, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
> Energy should now probably be spent in making sure that Xerial, the
> next LTS release is well tested and has the packages we want. The
> debian import freeze is later this month, so now is the last time to
> act.

The DebianImportFreeze is scheduled for February 18th according to the
release schedule [0].

Almost everything from Debian unstable is in xenial already, some
desired packages are still in proposed which may need some help to get
into the release before the freeze:

 - gdal (1.11.3+dfsg-3)
   This should get into xenial, has fix for segfault with SQLite 3.10.0.

 - grass (7.0.3-1)
   This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.

 - libgdal-grass
   This should get into xenial, required for GRASS 7.0.3.

 - netcdf (1:4.4.0-1)
   This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.

 - netcdf-fortran (4.4.3-1)
   This should get into xenial, latest upstream release and
   required for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.

 - netcdf-cxx (4.2.1-3)
   This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.

 - netcdf-cxx-legacy (4.2-4)
   This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.

 - netcdf4-python (1.2.2-2)
   This should get into xenial, rebuilt for NetCDF-C 4.4.0.

 - python-cligj (0.4.0-1)
   This should get into xenial, latest upstream release.

 - fiona (1.6.3-2)
   Not really important, but includes support for GDAL 2.0.

Special mention for ossim (1.8.20.3+ds-2) which is required for OTB 5.2.

Ubuntu chose to diverge from Debian for its GCC 5 transition, but now
wants the Debian maintainers to carry the Breaks/Replaces changes only
required for Ubuntu before merging the new ossim package. [1]

I've so far refrained from doing so, because I think the burden should
be on Ubuntu to carry that change because they chose to ignore the
maintainers in Debian when doing their GCC 5 transition.

To get OSSIM 1.8.20-3 into xenial someone else may need to prepare
ossim (1.8.20.3+ds-2ubuntu1) [2] with the Breaks/Replaces changes
required for Ubuntu if the Ubuntu people cannot be bothered to deal with
the issues they created.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ossim/+bug/1529157
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Re: [Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-12 Thread Angelos Tzotsos

On 02/12/2016 11:08 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Bas Couwenberg  wrote:

On 2016-02-11 17:32, Alex Mandel wrote:

Can someone remind me. Do we have a timeline for getting newer GDAL and
QGIS into ubuntugis-unstable?

We mostly need people to do it. Currently osgeo live is more up to
date than ubuntugis. I'm in favor of copying everything from the last
release to -stable and from the upcoming release to -unstable. I can
do this if noone objects.

This only affects trusty. Given that wily has rather recent packages
already I don't think we should focus on providing packages there.
Energy should now probably be spent in making sure that Xerial, the
next LTS release is well tested and has the packages we want. The
debian import freeze is later this month, so now is the last time to
act.

Kind Regards,
Johan
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+1

Sorry I did not make the copy already...

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Re: [Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-12 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Bas Couwenberg  wrote:
> On 2016-02-11 17:32, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>
>> Can someone remind me. Do we have a timeline for getting newer GDAL and
>> QGIS into ubuntugis-unstable?

We mostly need people to do it. Currently osgeo live is more up to
date than ubuntugis. I'm in favor of copying everything from the last
release to -stable and from the upcoming release to -unstable. I can
do this if noone objects.

This only affects trusty. Given that wily has rather recent packages
already I don't think we should focus on providing packages there.
Energy should now probably be spent in making sure that Xerial, the
next LTS release is well tested and has the packages we want. The
debian import freeze is later this month, so now is the last time to
act.

Kind Regards,
Johan
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Re: [Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-11 Thread Bas Couwenberg

On 2016-02-11 17:32, Alex Mandel wrote:

Can someone remind me. Do we have a timeline for getting newer GDAL and
QGIS into ubuntugis-unstable?


Speaking about GDAL only, it seems unlikely to happen before Debian 
makes the switch to GDAL 2.0.


The packaging is available in the Debian GIS git repository, but only 
last week the final blockers for the transition in Debian were resolved.


Debian will transition to 1.11.4 before switching to 2.0.2, because of 
NEW queue delays for the 2.0 packages.


UbuntuGIS doesn't have the NEW queue issue, but is likely to have other 
reverse dependencies of GDAL that don't support 2.0 yet (because those 
packages aren't in Debian, or because the GDAL 2.0 patches haven't found 
their way into UbuntuGIS yet).


Someone needs to do a round of rebuilds in UbuntuGIS to assess the level 
of support for GDAL 2.0.


Kind Regards,

Bas
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[Ubuntu] GDAL 2.0, QGIS updates

2016-02-11 Thread Alex Mandel
Can someone remind me. Do we have a timeline for getting newer GDAL and
QGIS into ubuntugis-unstable?

Seems to me -stable should be where the LTS version of QGIS gets put.

Thanks,
Alex
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