Re: [Off Topic] sound car

2010-03-16 Thread mk360
First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse 
better :).

I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens... 
The model is realtek ALC 880.

Thanks again.
mk.
- Original Message - 
From: "Phill Whiteside" 
To: "mk360" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car


> Hi mk360,
>
> I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what 
> was
> said:
>
> (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound
> cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse.
> (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa
> *cwillu cwillu_at_work *
> (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as
> per the instructions and pulse will see it ?
> (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version 
> of
> alsa that's already included isn't working?
> (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work
> (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive -
> (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my 
> ubuntu
> becouse it was
> (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver
> from the manufacturer,
> (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file 
> all
> instructions are
> (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the 
> new
> ubuntu systems
> (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
> (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced
> (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do
> different things
> (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with
> ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ?
> (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is 
> what
> talks to applications
> (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already
> checked alsamixer levels?
> (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual
> installation looks quite involed !!
> (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa 
> that
> doesn't sound good..
> (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the
> volume was too low
> (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer
> levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually
> installing it ?
> (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should 
> be
> just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and 
> the
> sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. 
> If
> it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed
> properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be)
> rather than just applying a workaround
> (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the
> bugs don't actually get fixed
> (16:44:23) phillw: .
> (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p
> (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be
> back ;-)
>
> Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have
> another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360  wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it 
>> was
>> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the
>> manufacturer,
>> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions 
>> are
>> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems
>> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
>>
>>Here is the readme file:
>> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14
>>
>> Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec
>>
>> Support Codec list:
>>
>> AC97 Codec=
>>
>> ALC100,100P
>>
>> ALC200,200P
>>
>> ALC650D
>>
>> ALC650E
>>
>> ALC650F
>>
>> ALC650
>>
>> ALC655
>>
>> ALC653
>>
>> ALC658
>>
>> ALC658D
>>
>> ALC850
>>
>> ALC101
>>
>> ALC202
>>
>> ALC250
>>
>> ALC203
>>
>> HD Audio codec 
>>
>> ALC260
>>
>> ALC262
>>
>> ALC267
>>
>&g

Re: [Off Topic] sound car

2010-03-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi mk360,

I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what was
said:

(16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound
cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse.
(16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa
*cwillu cwillu_at_work *
(16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as
per the instructions and pulse will see it ?
(16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version of
alsa that's already included isn't working?
(16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work
(16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive -
(16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu
becouse it was
(16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver
from the manufacturer,
(16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all
instructions are
(16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new
ubuntu systems
(16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
(16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced
(16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do
different things
(16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with
ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ?
(16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is what
talks to applications
(16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already
checked alsamixer levels?
(16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual
installation looks quite involed !!
(16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa that
doesn't sound good..
(16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the
volume was too low
(16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer
levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually
installing it ?
(16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should be
just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and the
sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. If
it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed
properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be)
rather than just applying a workaround
(16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the
bugs don't actually get fixed
(16:44:23) phillw: .
(16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p
(16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be
back ;-)

Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have
another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was
> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the
> manufacturer,
> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions are
> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems
> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
>
>Here is the readme file:
> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14
>
> Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec
>
> Support Codec list:
>
> AC97 Codec=
>
> ALC100,100P
>
> ALC200,200P
>
> ALC650D
>
> ALC650E
>
> ALC650F
>
> ALC650
>
> ALC655
>
> ALC653
>
> ALC658
>
> ALC658D
>
> ALC850
>
> ALC101
>
> ALC202
>
> ALC250
>
> ALC203
>
> HD Audio codec 
>
> ALC260
>
> ALC262
>
> ALC267
>
> ALC268
>
> ALC259
>
> ALC269
>
> ALC270
>
> ALC272
>
> ALC275
>
> ALC660
>
> ALC660VD
>
> ALC661
>
> ALC662
>
> ALC663
>
> ALC665
>
> ALC670
>
> ALC861
>
> ALC861VD
>
> ALC880
>
> ALC882
>
> ALC883
>
> ALC885
>
> ALC888
>
> ALC889A
>
> ALC892
>
> Installation:
>
> This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org.
>
> For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit.
>
> For driver installation, please follow below steps.
>
> Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution)
>
> execute
>
> ./install
>
> Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install.
>
> Run commands need to add sudo at first words.
>
> Manual install:
>
> Step 1. unzip source code
>
> tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2
>
> Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
>
> (soundcore module, default turn on)
>
> Step 3. Complied source code
>
> a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx
>
> b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)<= for HDA options
>
> c. make
>
> d. make install
>
> e. alsaconf
>
> Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the
> distribution
>
> (Please refer to the attached modules.conf)
>
>
> snd- is the card ID.
>
> -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888
>
> --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 -
>
> snd-hda-intel
>
> -- AC97 controller -