Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR/Wiki updates

2008-11-27 Thread mr
They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to look like
Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..

2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have added a few of Sebastian's  app icons to BZR and the wiki.

* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Applications

 I have taken them down from the submissions page
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions) as further
 refinement will happen in the Updates section and BZR.

 Sebastien: I'd like to focus on a distributor logo and the category
 icons for now if you don't mind. Ok?


 -Cory K.





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[ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread Cory K.
mr wrote:
 They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to look
 like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..

Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You don't
have to use them. :)

If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say I'd
like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;)

I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that actually
work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to avoid
the peanut gallery. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] BZR/Wiki updates

2008-11-27 Thread spg76
2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sebastien: I'd like to focus on a distributor logo and the category
 icons for now if you don't mind. Ok?


 -Cory K.


OK. When I have time, I'll try to give it a shot to some of those icons.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread mr
no need for insults

2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mr wrote:
  They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to look
  like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..

 Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You don't
 have to use them. :)

 If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say I'd
 like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;)

 I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that actually
 work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to avoid
 the peanut gallery. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread SorinN
..to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know why you like to tease peoples ? I see that before.
If he ..top-post,  tell him normally something like : - hey man please
don't top post, we try to keep clean here.

It's enough.
Don't forget Ubuntu is all in all about humanity ..to us and to
others. Than mean sometimes to retain first impulse and to use our
good resources,

2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mr wrote:
  2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  mr wrote:
   They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to look
   like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..
 
  Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You
  don't
  have to use them. :)
 
  If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say I'd
  like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;)
 
  I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that
  actually
  work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to avoid
  the peanut gallery. ;)
 
 
 
  no need for insults

 It wasn't personal. Please don't top-post.

 -Cory K.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/11/27 SorinN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ..to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I don't know why you like to tease peoples ? I see that before.
 If he ..top-post,  tell him normally something like : - hey man please
 don't top post, we try to keep clean here.

 It's enough.
 Don't forget Ubuntu is all in all about humanity ..to us and to
 others. Than mean sometimes to retain first impulse and to use our
 good resources,

 2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  mr wrote:
   2008/11/27 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
   mr wrote:
They are nice but some look like a Mac, I don't want icons to
 look
like Mac's because I chose Ubuntu not Mac..
  
   Drawing in a realistic style will always get that comparison. You
   don't
   have to use them. :)
  
   If you're not working on the set or have nothing technical to say
 I'd
   like everyone to just keep it to themselves. ;)
  
   I only post to the list to keep the few people around here that
   actually
   work on things informed. I could move it to a different list to
 avoid
   the peanut gallery. ;)
  
  
  
   no need for insults
 
  It wasn't personal. Please don't top-post.
 
  -Cory K.
 
 
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I agree with SorinN. Cory, evidently you are a very upfront, confrontational
guy, and that's good, but there comes to a point where you are just plain
rude.
Which was fine when you were one voice among many on this list, but you
became defacto community leader for this list, and the only member to openly
support you on this list was me, and then Kenneth Wilmer in irc.
In this particular case your best response would be:

Although this project uses this list to announce additions, please note
this is not an official ubuntu project and is created by likeminded people
for likeminded people, a subset of the ubuntu art community. Feel free to
begin your own project with your own goals, their are probably many
community members which watch this list, which feel the same way

You seem to have forgotten the appointed role as community leader.
You shouldn't make people frightended to speak, or frightened to reply for
fear of not matching your fascistly applied posting rules.
Top posting is annoying yes, but should you be so cold in your advice?
You should consider your role aswell as chastising people for not meeting
theirs.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread Dylan McCall

 Michael Stephenson wrote:
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-September/007923.html
  As de-facto community lead atm I wanna give this effort a big +1.
 
  Sounds like you were taking the position as community leader at that
  point to me, considering it wasn't you announcing Kyu-do

 I understand your whole opinion now hinged on that one line,
 half-hearted, joking at the time comment. Something most wouldn't have
 known for sure. After that, I had started to think about it, but quickly
 realized it would be a waste of my time now. In the end, I'm not leader
 here. I'm just some ass with an opinion like everyone else. :P Nobody is
 lead because nobody can follow IMO. The few that can know who they are
 and we all talk to each other off-list. Sorry. May sound like a shitty
 opinion but but I just have too many examples. Too many wasted emails.

 For one start you should have made your role clear after basically
 announcing leadership, I just follow this list, here and there when I have
 time to read and at the time in the development cycle when things seem most
 pertinent, and that was a pertinent line at a pertinent time (and the rest
 of your posting behaviour reflected it at the time, understandably).
 But that doesn't change the fact that your are the most authoritative figure
 on this list, and being quite nasty to every new comer on this list isn't
 exactly inviting.


 Much wasted time trying to do, *something*.

 I'm still in favor of a moderated list for people who actually have some
 kinda cred to back up their opinion.

 You seem to find that you being a dick to people is a medium to keep away
 people who are serious about creating art, like that is some massive
 contribution. Admittedly I am ridiculously inept at anything artistic. But
 there are surely alot of very artistic people who think well I can't code,
 so I can contribute artistically then join to the ubuntu art list, feel
 your wrath and then keep quiet rather than disrupt your precious order.

 I'm just saying Cory You'll catch alot more Bees with honey than Vinegar

 Now please don't hurt me

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May I be the first to suggest that blabbering on about how mean it
was of Cory to point out to someone that top posting is considered bad
practise has actually caused far more harm to the thread than his
so-called attack?

Back on topic, folks. And thanks for pointing out the matter of
top-posting so quietly :)

And in a completely hypocrytical move, I'll go on about the humanity
to others thing. I personally think it is best for people to speak
their minds rather than holding secrets about what they think of
people. Now that you know I do that, isn't it delightful that I
haven't spouted a dislike for anyone here? I think it is a more
humane, ethical treatment than the alternative sugar-coating. After
all, I would prefer if people did that for me instead of secretly
hating me. So if that is my definition of humane, why isn't it allowed
in our world?
I, for one, really appreciate Cory's frank manner. I know where I
stand with him (*hides*), I know that he isn't personally attacking
mr, and I know that he doesn't like people top posting. Cory told us
all that with as few words as possible so that I may get on with
things efficiently instead of plowing through some syrupy dramatic
epic about how he feels saddened and betrayed by mr's posting
ettiquette, can understand that mr does not realize the pain he causes
yet he wishes dearly, from the bottom of his heart, for the good of
all the universe and for mr himself, that it would stop.
...Oh, and since when is please don't top-post mean?

-Dylan

PS: I still don't get what people have against Tango except that it
looks distinctive and is widely adopted.

PPS: Tom Koson, is that a joke (hahahaa) or are you hoping to
unsubscribe from the mailing list? If you want to unsubscribe, try the
link at the bottom of each message.

PPPS: As my Slashdot signature says: My opinions are mine; this post
is 'in my opinion'. Qualify it yourself. It speaks volumes about why
I nearly fail so many English courses.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art opinions

2008-11-27 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
Dylan McCall wrote:
 Michael Stephenson wrote:

And so did many others.

So to resolve this matter, I propose that we BOTH-POST.

That's right, we will neither top-post or bottom-post. The reply will
be in the middle of the email and we'll have quotes both at the top and
at the bottom.

This way everybody can be happy.

/joke


Seriously now, this has gone too far and is now impeding the
functioning of this mailing list.

It is not two or three guys' fascist opinion that you should not
top-post. Personally, I've been using mailing lists for 15 years on the
Internet and 5 more on the modem BBSs we used to communicate before that.

The commonly accepted netiquette has *always* been Quote on top, reply
at the bottom.

Practically every top-poster that writes to this list is reigniting
this flame by complaining, instead of simply complying with this one
simple thing that is being asked of them.

And you ask now why some of us appear rude? Well the 100th time you ask
for something reasonable and instead of OK dude you get called a
fascist, that awakes the rude monster inside.

That was my 2 cents.


Jimmy


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