Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 21:43 -0300, spg76 wrote:
 I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for media-flash.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

The label is rather overpowering, I think.

There should only be a readable capacity (4 GB), if it matches the
actual medium. I bet there's no way to know that and switch icons,
currently.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic Questions

2009-03-30 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 14:18 -0400, Andrew wrote:

 1. Define some guidelines for inclusion in the package. Possibly
 something as simple as being proposed on this list, shared on the
 wiki, ect... Essentially, not just a cool but random theme from
 GNOME-Look, but something actually from _this_ community.
 2. Set a deadline before Feature Freeze for themes to be submitted.
 Updates/fixes to the included these of course continue after being
 accepted.
 3. Define a decision making process. Possibly using the voting feature
 on Launchpad for the Ubuntu Artwork Team?
 4. Set a date for the new themes to be uploaded. Feature Freeze?
 Artwork Deadline?

I'm in support of all your points. But not in favour of voting. Rough
consensus or even dictatorship is better. Meritocracy not democracy,
please ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 21:43 -0300, spg76 wrote:
   
 I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for media-flash.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
 

 The label is rather overpowering, I think.
   

In what regard? I'm very willing to bet that Sebastien took it from a
real one. That's not to say the real one couldn't have been done better. :P

 There should only be a readable capacity (4 GB), if it matches the
 actual medium. I bet there's no way to know that and switch icons,
 currently.
   

Yeah. I guess something like XL or some insanely large # would work.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Ryan Prior
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 21:43 -0300, spg76 wrote:
  I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for media-flash.
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

 The label is rather overpowering, I think.

 There should only be a readable capacity (4 GB), if it matches the
 actual medium. I bet there's no way to know that and switch icons,
 currently.


Very good point, and absolutely agreed. Perhaps XL could be used instead?
=D

A feature suggestion for Gnome: allow for dynamic scriptable SVG icons!





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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread spg76
2009/3/30 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de

 The label is rather overpowering, I think.


As Cory said, I based the label on a card that I have. I searched for other
pictures of SD cards and all looked pretty much alike.
I could try make the colors a little more subtle. Also I don't know if I
should change the color of the card from black to blue because all the SD
cards that I saw have that color.

About the 4GB, I see your point and I like the XL idea. One other thing
that I could try it's an SD logo although I think this icon it's used for
all types of flash cards.
The Oxygen set have different types of flash cards (media-flash,
media-flash-memory-stick, media-flash-sd-mmc, media-flash-smart-media),
maybe we can do something like that but I don't know how this work on GNOME.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
spg76 wrote:
 The Oxygen set have different types of flash cards (media-flash,
 media-flash-memory-stick, media-flash-sd-mmc, media-flash-smart-media),
 maybe we can do something like that but I don't know how this work on GNOME.
   

We should be able to. I added some already.  Just add whatever I missed
to the flash section on the Submissions page and I'll do the rest.

If anyone wonders where we can do things like this (use specific icons
where generic ones are usually used) just look at sets like Tango or
GNOME. If there's a symlink for it we can change it to a real icon.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 10:23 -0300, spg76 wrote:
 2009/3/30 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de
 
 The label is rather overpowering, I think.
 
 As Cory said, I based the label on a card that I have. I searched for
 other pictures of SD cards and all looked pretty much alike.
 I could try make the colors a little more subtle. Also I don't know if
 I should change the color of the card from black to blue because all
 the SD cards that I saw have that color.

To Cory: What I meant with overpowering is that the label jumps right in
your face and only on the 3rd look one realises that is just the label
that sits on the actual object of interest. That's my impression, at
least.

Maybe use one of these as reference to avoid the issue:
http://accushop.at/images/product_images/original_images/SanDisk-SD-Card-2GB.jpg
http://www.etc-shop.de/images/produkte/1626-sd-1.jpg
http://www.navigations-zubehoer.de/media/images/sd_card_blankgb_big-medium.jpg


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[ubuntu-art] Note on wiki attachments

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
This is something I shoulda mentioned a while ago but just kinda went
with. There's a cleaner way to attach images.

Using the Breathe pages as a example, we currently do this:

||accessories-dictionary||{{https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=accessories-dictionary2.png}}[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=accessories-dictionary2.svg|SVG]]||SebastianPorta||
||

When we could do:

||accessories-dictionary||{{attachment:accessories-dictionary2.png}}[[attachment:accessories-dictionary2.svg|SVG]]||SebastianPorta||
||

The 2nd is much cleaner and protects against any system changes to
MoinMoin that might break the links. It even warns you of this. :P I'll
go through the Breath page today and change it over but just note this
for the future on whatever pages you are working on.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic Questions

2009-03-30 Thread Saleel
Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 14:18 -0400, Andrew wrote:

   
 1. Define some guidelines for inclusion in the package. Possibly
 something as simple as being proposed on this list, shared on the
 wiki, ect... Essentially, not just a cool but random theme from
 GNOME-Look, but something actually from _this_ community.
 2. Set a deadline before Feature Freeze for themes to be submitted.
 Updates/fixes to the included these of course continue after being
 accepted.
 3. Define a decision making process. Possibly using the voting feature
 on Launchpad for the Ubuntu Artwork Team?
 4. Set a date for the new themes to be uploaded. Feature Freeze?
 Artwork Deadline?
 

 I'm in support of all your points. But not in favour of voting. Rough
 consensus or even dictatorship is better. Meritocracy not democracy,
 please ;)
Agreed with both your points. Number 4 I feel should be slightly later 
than the official artwork deadline, in case some one is contributing to 
both. Someone will have to write up a draft of what the decision making 
process should look like, any volunteers? Or should we just start a new 
topic and brainstorm into it?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic Questions

2009-03-30 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 11:20 -0400, Saleel wrote:

 Agreed with both your points. Number 4 I feel should be slightly later 
 than the official artwork deadline, in case some one is contributing to 
 both. Someone will have to write up a draft of what the decision making 
 process should look like, any volunteers? Or should we just start a new 
 topic and brainstorm into it?

New topic, yes.

This should ideally be fuelled by those who already succeeded in having
their themes included, as they know how it can work and how much time it
all takes. And Kenneth, of course ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread spg76
I made a couple of alternates version and upload them to the wiki as
gnome-dev-media-sdmmc and gnome-dev-media-sdmmc2.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic Questions

2009-03-30 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 17:54 +0200 на 30.03.2009 (пн), Thorsten Wilms написа:
 This should ideally be fuelled by those who already succeeded in having
 their themes included, as they know how it can work and how much time it
 all takes. And Kenneth, of course ;)

I'll be glad to help ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
spg76 wrote:
 I made a couple of alternates version and upload them to the wiki as
 gnome-dev-media-sdmmc and gnome-dev-media-sdmmc2.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
   

I'm diggin' #2.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] gtk-media

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
Oliver Scholtz wrote:
 gtk-media:
 Will make only in 128 and let them all out if I finished. Time? Maybe 1
 week? So here are some difticults like replay etc. too. ;)

Any movement on these? I'm fine with what's there so far. I'd make the
record button red though and add the smaller sizes. These are really
close to being done so lets try to push through and finish them up. :)


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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Powder

2009-03-30 Thread Matthew Nuzum
Hello,

Just food for thought... I like that the list of extra themes in
Ubuntu this time around has changed. I'd like to toss out an idea for
a new one in Karmic... I could try to avoid stereotyping but it's not
worth the effort. I'll just start with a disclaimer saying that I know
it's a stereotype and I know it's not valid universally.

My suggestion is to include a theme that has a distinctly feminine
appeal. I'm not suggesting eye-burning pink (like is included in XP),
but choosing a human related palette that says to women, This is for
you.

Here are some of the thoughts behind my suggestion:

 * When going to the grocery store with my son and daughter they often
pick cereal based on the colour of the box. Yes, this is insane, but
my daughter knows that if the box is pink it's for girls and since
she's a girl she wants it. I disagree with this article on a few
fundamental (but overall minute) points, but just to show there is
evidence for this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/21/sciencenews.fashion

 * Most people who use a laptop with a glossy screen hate the glare
within a few hours. They spend uncountable time adjusting their screen
to get an angle with little glare. However most laptops have glossy
screens. Why? Because when you set a glossy and matte screen side by
side on the shelf the glossy screen looks better and sells quicker. It
has shelf appeal. This is directly related to the idea of fixing up
the front of a house before you try to sell it (only then it's called
curb appeal).

 * I've found that if I'm presenting to creative professionals I get
better results when I use the ubuntu studio theme. (the login screen
for intrepid with the brushes sells very well) They can tell when they
see it that it was designed for a designer.

My point is that you can impress people at a glance. We could make a
theme that would make a typical western women feel comfortable and
special, like she was using a computer designed for her. It might help
us reach people we don't currently reach.

Just an idea.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] gtk-media

2009-03-30 Thread Oliver
Am Montag 30 März 2009 21:16:46 schrieb Cory K.:
 Oliver Scholtz wrote:
  gtk-media:
  Will make only in 128 and let them all out if I finished. Time? Maybe 1
  week? So here are some difticults like replay etc. too. ;)

 Any movement on these? I'm fine with what's there so far. I'd make the
 record button red though and add the smaller sizes. These are really
 close to being done so lets try to push through and finish them up. :)


 -Cory K.


There are movements, yes. But I am over it only  if I have time. At moment I'm 
optimizing, because I see little things what must be corrected for have a 
nearly 100% harmony with all in white-tone and same shadows. The best way to 
see them is the submission-page! ;)
If I am happy with it I will contuine with seek forward, replay etc. This are 
more complicate Icons and will take a while of time. I think all the gtk-media 
Icons in perfekt state are ready in the second output of the PPA.
Maybe the Navigations-Buttons, too. ;) Here I will make (gtk-media finished) 
some scetchs for talk and decide about... so here we have many many 
possibilities for Arrows and Refresh. :/

PS: The red record icon I will make as #2 if I haved finished with all the 
rest.

Sincerely Oliver




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[ubuntu-art] Community Themes Brainstorm

2009-03-30 Thread John Baer
Key points put forward on this list are:

1) Define guidelines for inclusion 

2) Define milestones and deadlines dates

3) Define the decision process

I would add ...

4) Define the process to remove a submission

5) Define packaging and support requirements

Are there others?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-search2 Icon

2009-03-30 Thread Cory K.
Ryan Henningsen wrote:
 Regarding the system-search icon: system-search is not zoom-in. Their
 should be no plus signs at smaller sizes.
   

At present, this icon is not being used, but, could be used as zoom
icons if they were fixed up a bit. I've addressed my issues with other
replies.


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