[ubuntu-art] [PROPOSAL] yet another lsplash proposal
well.. I wanted to show some variation in contrast that is possible with blender (can you tell I luv blender?), so I modified jmak's yummy lsplash graphic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/LSplashProposal/YALSPI don't think this is the direction that was wanted, but hey it looks nice and glassy anyway let me know if I should bang out some more variations. - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art.ubuntu.com
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:00:33 +0200 "Luka Čehovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > deep sleep and postpone its upgrade till post-Edgy (i think). If > someone is willing to do some research on alternative CMSs he/she is > more than welcome to post the results here on ML It can't be the lack of a CMS.. there are 1000's of CMS's to choose from, and we're already running Zope on Launchpad. Why don't we plonk one of the image cartridges ontop and get ready to go again? - Niel > > i hope that the reason for closing the AUC is now a bit more clear ... > > Cheers, > -Luka > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] art.ubuntu.com
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:18:54 +0100 Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe if we don't want to provide a community type art page as > described we could link to the gnome-look pages for people to put > their wallpapers up there. they have a much better set of tools for > dealing with anonymous submissions. I agree. If I remember correctly, the argument was that art.ubuntu.org was a "lesser" version of the existing gnome-look project, and a great deal of submissions ended up there. AFAIK AUC is being revamped (by Matthew Nuzum maybe?) regards - Niel > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > Jane Silber wrote: > > Hi folks - > > > > I just noticed that art.ubuntu.com was shut down. I understand the > > priority of getting the wiki in order and applaud your efforts > > there. But what's the matter with leaving a place where community > > people can contribute wallpapers? Those submissions don't > > necessarily need to be part of the process of selecting what goes > > on the CD, but people like to create wallpapers, share them, > > download them, etc and you are effectively turning away people who > > want to express their enjoyment of Ubuntu through making wallpapers. > > > > Not all of the art process is about making the distro, and > > art.ubuntu.com provides a place where people can contribute > > wallpapers without getting involved in the more formal process of > > artwork for a specific release, and we should support both types of > > contributions. It is also causing confusion internally - the > > Marketing team is now talking about creating a new site like > > art.ubuntu.com where people can contribute wallpapers (not as > > "consider this for the default artwork" but as in "I did this, it's > > cool, others might like it"). > > > > My opinion is that by shutting that site to contributions you have > > closed the door to valuable community contributions and energy. > > What's the argument against re-opening it? > > > > Cheers, > > Jane > > > > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] SUBMISSION [Propose] Coffee cup
Propose phase submission: I made a 3D coffee cup. Since this is my first blender production, suggestions are very welcome. ;-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CoffeeCup I did have a texture in the pipeline, but I guess I'm a bit late for that now... ciao ciao - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Appointment of AIC's for Edgy
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:03:14 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please join me in congratulating Frank and Ken on this appointment! Excellent news. Congrats Ken & Frank, I am hoping this decision will put things on track again! Kind Regards - Niel Drummond > > Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Quick Update
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:53:27 +0200 Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - snip - > set is. It follows guidelines more strictly, hasn't gone overboard > with insane levels of orangification (does the user-desktop icon > really need to attempt to show the default wallpaper in the smallest > icon size? Does the Internet icon really need to be a large orange > sphere?) and has more probability of being consistent with pretty > much the whole general style of the non-Ubuntu Linux art of > tomorrow. Consistency is still an important thing, and as of yet, > Ubuntu is not a trend setter in the art or UI world. Tango seems to > be just that. Your discussion is good, and if you can write down in a spec exactly which icons you do not like, how they can be improved, and more importantly why they should be improved... that would be very valuable to us. It is very likely that the Art Council will pay more attention to the situation, if there is proper documentation on the subject, than these emails in the Message lists. There are historic reasons why the upcoming cycle is unlikely to let us change the human icon set. For one thing, we haven't "proved" ourselves as a viable alternative for making ubuntu art yet. For another, the Human set was outsourced, and we shouldn't step on their toes right from the beginning. This does not mean that we cannot take over when the time is right, so having these ideas on spec would be very useful for the long term. As per the decision-making: don't get your head under water because of it. The reason we have decision-makers in artistic exploits, is because art is very subjective, and also very prone to a lack in quality, which makes decision making on a democratic level very difficult. Additionaly, this is how it has always been done (Kenneth Wimer can tell you, he has worked for Novel for 7 years). This is the first time that a distribution approaches the art team with a more open-ended work process, so there are bound to be questions on the fairness of the organisation. This doesn't mean your words will be lost on the Art Council though! Write your thoughts in a spec, and they might get approved for the following release cycle. Kind Regards, - Niel Drummond > -snip- > > Michiel Sikma > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Launchpad updates
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:13:20 +0100 Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niel Drummond wrote: > > a) Launchpad names are of the form "ubuntu-art-mydescription" > > > Since the specs are attached to the ubuntu distro, there's no need for > the ubuntu- part of those names. Just art-mydescription would do! Do you know if it is a scheduled improvement to Launchpad to have spec names changeable after creation ? > The dependency means "that must be finished before work can BEGIN on > this one". ok, I misunderstood dependencies defined in this way -- they are probably less relevant to the artistic specs, unless there is an overriding technical issue towards implementation. I was thinking more in an Object Oriented way -- a spec is a "subclass" of another, and retains some or all of the properties of its "parent"... and as such, a parent spec cannot become completed until all of its sub-children are finished too. Does that make sense in a workflow environment, or am I speaking gibberish? - Niel Drummond > Suggestions welcome! > > Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Wiki reorganisation in progress
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:58:18 +0200 Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Artwork/Documentation/Howtos/InlineColorSwatch and > ArtworkTeam/Drafts/EdgyColourProposals/Howto are really > strange. I don't know how to handle that pages. Should them be > specs ??? I have deleted these, as they were relevant to an old page on colour palettes that I have now erased. regards - Niel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] RFC: Ubuntu 6.06 Improvement Review
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 21:04:23 +0200 Frank Schoep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking forward to receiving your comments. Keep in mind that the > document isn't intended for public release yet, isn't finished and > the page layout hasn't got any love yet, but it's the best I can show > you right now. I know this is going back a long way -- is it possible that we could have that pdf document that you produced in raw form (as a Latex document, or OOo, or whatever), so that we can split it up into manageable sections and add it to the wikki specs ? That is, unless you still want to update it some more.. Many Thanks and hope the weather is / was nice in Paris! - Niel Drummond > > Thanks for reading. > > With kind regards, > > Frank Schoep > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New member
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:59:22 +0100 Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > May I ask what the top prios are for the art team right now? What > > are you guys focusing on - I guess it's a bunch of work for next > > release? > > Have a brief scan over this > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Guidelines > > We are currently in the process of a massive reorganisation, after > which the team should be much better equipped to make slick and > complete artwork for edgy (the next version of Ubuntu) > Just wanted to add some links, while we are on the subject. The Wiki is a first-stop location (Etienne Bersac /Pascal Klein are working on re-organising it -- and we kindly ask you not to change too much for the next week or so) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ We use Launchpad to organise ourselves. Once registered on the wiki, you will automagically appear on Launchpad -- we also ask new members to "assign" themselves to the "ubuntu-art" team https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/ There is a spec list for artwork in Edgy, which is being worked on. You are welcome to contribute specs -- it is usually good form to mention it on the mailing list if you do . https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+spec/ Each spec in Launchpad should be associated to a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/ If you are itching to contribute art, but there isn't a spec, we have the AUC (which is also under refurbishment) http://art.ubuntu.com/ The Powers-That-Be are at a Paris summit, outlining the plans for the next release cycle. Important non-artwork people you should know about: Mark Shuttleworth is our Self Appointed Benevolent Dictator For Life (wikipedia him if you want to know why), and will occasionally drop in to solve disputes. Oliver Grawert is our package administrator (AFAIK), and will occassionally tell us to be more organised I'm having a mind blank, and I'm sure I've insulted someone As already mentioned, there will be an artist-in-chief appointed for one release cycle and also several leaders responsible for focus areas. Oh yes, there's also an official timetable : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan ... that's a lot of links, maybe they should be summarized in the wiki ? Kind Regards, Niel Drummond > As yet, the goals are not clear - it was decided at our last meeting > (last weekend) that there would be an 'Artist in Chief' and that they > would be selected based on a resume/action plan - so I think our goals > will be affected by who is chosen for this role :). The minutes are > here (the list of present people is updated in later posts...): > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-June/002132.html > Thanks to Pascal for taking them :) > > You've come at the right time - the art team is really being given the > chance to be a big and visible part of Ubuntu now, provided we are up > to it :) > > See you in IRC soon ;) > > Who > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
I've added Mark's comment to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Guidelines Regards - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu title font
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:27:59 +0200 Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ ubuntu-art-titlefont can you make "ubuntu-art" the assignee to this spec, so it'll show up on the main ubuntu-artwork spec page https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs and so we can attach the updated title font to your spec? thanks - Niel Drummond > > Michiel > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:57:19 -0700 (PDT) j Mak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only problem could be that if you make the various flavors > uniform across the board you deprive them to develop their own > identities. You may end up like in fedora where the kde destop was > gnome-ized so much that the kde look and feel completely lost. This > may create a cross platform boredom. > good point. We need more of this kind of discussion. We also need to get the Xubuntu + Kubuntu + Edubuntu artwork teams communicating with us... I've had a brief look over their wiki pages, (their artwork sections are more substantial than ours, embarrassingly enough). For example, Kubuntu want to break off into a "theme" of their own: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtworkParadigm/ anyway, it's worth looking at what they're doing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuArtwork/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuArtwork/ Regards - Niel > J. Mak > > > > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Idea regarding themes
I have added your post to a Launchpad spec: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-art-gnome-kde-xfce-themes regards - Niel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Cursor
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:48:51 -0400 Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an updated version of my new experimental cursor design for > Ubuntu... > > Viper550 We should get our process sorted out before any contributions will be considered. Once the wiki is re-organised, you can put it under a page, and link to this spec on Launchpad (or create a new dependent spec): https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-art-mouse-cursors We will then most likely vote on it (or the artist-in-chief will determine if it's viable or not), regards, - Niel : if you want to contribute new cursors, they first need to spec'ed in Launchpad -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Launchpad updates
As you probably know by the bomb sitting in your mailbox, I have been slaving away at putting suggested features into Launchpad. I do apologise. Honest! It's not all finished though, so best to configure your spam box .-) The IRC meeting covered a great deal of things (see the logs), from Launchpad point of view, we'll be voting on some of the specifications. We'll then get rid of the rest, and start assigning tasks. Some comments on what is being implemented: a) Launchpad names are of the form "ubuntu-art-mydescription" Launchpad specs can be made dependent on other specs. Their descriptions are marked as follows: * "TARGET" will be a generalised target * All normal specifications should be a dependent on a particular TARGET. * "UNIFIED" will be a parent of many "TARGET" specs. Some of the mailing list suggestions want to unify various ideas into one. So, there is a need for unifying specifications. b) I've assigned people to their suggestions. This is simply to see at a glance who suggested what, and will be changed as soon as we sort things out c) we should mention somewhere on the wiki (in 2 weeks) about the various URLs relevant to the art team: - where the relevant specs are to the art team https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs - how to add a spec (this wasn't very obvious to me until someone on #ubuntu-devel pointed it out to me) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+addspec - Instructions on how to register yourself as a team member: Go here https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+login Follow instructions to register Now go here https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+join (The wiki has been frozen for restructuring, so I don't recommend we add this information yet.) I hope this isn't too complicated. When we get over the rush, Launchpad will become a lot more useful than it currently is... Kind Regards - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour palette suggestions
Troy James Sobotka wrote: On Sat, 2006-17-06 at 00:31 +0200, Niel Drummond wrote: well I didn't much like the hodge podge of new theme ideas scattered around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts/ so I created another page, in an effort to reduce the clutter. I don't know how much room there is to adjust the palette spectrum away from the defaults listed in the DIY marketing selection of the wiki. Mark will probably comment on this matter to clarify. sorry I removed this page (it wasn't working very well anyway).. will try and fix it if mark and others agree to have such a thing - niel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Colour palette suggestions
well I didn't much like the hodge podge of new theme ideas scattered around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts/ so I created another page, in an effort to reduce the clutter. The new page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts/EdgyColourProposals/ It uses an 'inline colour swatch wiki markup', so I am hoping less people will simply "dump" a few words about their ideas, without contributing anything concrete for the other members of the team. I am also hoping it will be easy enough for regular users to potentially contribute their own ideas (as I remember this was mentioned as an idea earlier in the message archives). So please contribute: if you have a favourite wallpaper, then you have no excuse. Any improvements on the page are also welcome. Kind Regards - Niel Drummond PS There is some code behind it, which I will post if anyone is interested. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Main page discussion
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 03:55 -0500, Travis Watkins wrote: > The RedHat site doesn't even display right here in Epiphany, probably > due to font settings. However, the Novell website set off the > WTF-o-meter. They're using _flash_ on a linux page. Even worse, they Flash is a good deal faster than Java, doesn't have the client-side security nightmare involved, it doesn't take a team of 50 to develop a small app, the binary is an open standard (with plenty of open source tools available), there's an open-source alternative player available, and there's an extremely fast open-source compiler available (called MTASC), which is better than the original. Don't diss it. > -- > Travis Watkins > http://www.realistanew.com > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] A small suggestion
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 13:10 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: > Hello, > > That is a good idea. Mandriva already use such directory and integrate > them in the places menu. I wrote spec braindump about that. > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-places > why do none of your specs show up here: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs ? it seems that they should, but they don't. regards - Niel > And welcome to the art team. > > Étienne. > > -- > Verso l'Alto ! > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: Update on information
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:09 +0200, Niel Drummond wrote: > specifications there. Any idea ( or Am I Being Lame ? ) ? yes, it seems I was being lame! to add a feature, you need to go to this page: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs and click add specification. ciao - niel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] LAUNCHPAD: Update on information
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 06:12 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > I added a link to that LaunchpadHowTo at the wiki that > a wise ArtworkTeam member managed to dig up. Excellent information thank you! Thank you also Et for wikizing the feature list. I would like to put the list on Blueprint Launchpad now, but I can't register any new specifications there. Any idea ( or Am I Being Lame ? ) ? > > It contains a plethora of information on tracking features > and assigning tasks to individuals. I encourage everyone > who wants to participate to read through the docs if you > can find a few moments. > > Thank you. > > https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/BlueprintDocumentation -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] feature list / artistic ideas / re-orginisation review
hi I am fairly new to the list.. I've compiled a spreadsheet summarizing most of the artistic ideas, features, and re-orginisational woes that people have been having on the mailing list since the release of Draper. I've put it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts Considering the recent spout on Win vs. *nix, I've saved it as a csv (the fields are separated with commas, and double quotes). The original is an OOo file, so if you want me to use that instead, I will post it. I hope this document can be used as a "scratchpad", and ideas can be thrown out or padded out at the meeting in Paris. I've covered roughly 330 message threads, and come out with 60 separate ideas. That's not very good, and I'm hoping most of it can be thrown out. I apologise in advance if I have accredited an idea of any of yours to someone else, this was not my intention. I also apologise if I have misrepresented what any of you have said -- each description has a link to the relevant thread on the messageboards, so the correct context can be interpreted. Please change what I have written to suit your original thoughts on the matter. I would also like to comment on what I have read, for the benefit of those artists who have joined recently, and are a little confused at the mailing list chaos. Please correct me if I am wrong: although Draper is a big leap forwards in graphics compared to Breezy, there seems to have been a great deal of organisational problems at the end of the last development cycle. Hence, Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/) and the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/) were implemented to try and mitigate this problem. I have my reservations about having two unfinished organisational systems in place, but they both have a role: launchpad will allegedly deal with the hierarchy of the artwork team (and to make the previous hierarchy of team-members jealous); whereas the wiki is intended to create a focus for direction in the artwork contributions (and create more legwork for existing team members). I hope this clarifies things, and the Paris summit can be a successful organisational front for the upcoming release cycle. Kind Regards, - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] RFC: Ubuntu 6.06 Improvement Review
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 22:51 +0200, Frank Schoep wrote: > On the current splash screen the Ubuntu logo is shown in a tangerine color > which doesn't match any of the official colors. That is bad. Good thing is > that only one or two colors are used to prevent aliasing because of the 13 > color limit. > > Branding the logo using all colors won't succeed with usplash, especially not > considering the proposed "delayed fade" concept which needs a gradual > gradient of colors from back- to foreground. > > The splash you talk about with all the colors in it was horrible by any > standards (sorry if I just offended someone). There was more wrong with it > than the "correct" branding could make up for. > > "Minimalistic", which I created in an attempt to demo a textless boot, takes > all points I wrote down in consideration, even including the color gradient > palette for fading text items. I fail to see where it is inconsistent with my > review document. > I have not seen the minimalistic nor the colourful usplash versions, but I think having # colours of a 16 colour palette reserved for fading seems a little expensive. Afterall, at some point we will want to include a Grub splash screen (at least I will), which similarly has a 16 colour palette limit.. without any animation. We would also want this screen to "fit" with the usplash screen, which follows directly after. Can we not use blinking instead of fading? regards - Niel Drummond -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
