Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah I know gmail does that- I just hate having lots of stuff in my email. I > didnt think about it confusing people. > Salane > You don't have to type in the space gmail puts at the top of the email, you know. You can skip to the bottom and type, like I just did to send this. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New theme looking for critique based on Human-Clearlooks
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:45 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with > hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme > looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and > friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it constantly, > so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums topic, where you can > download it. I will include a couple screenshots here with this email so > that you may see what the themes look like. Would you tell me which window > border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also, any criticism is > appretiated. Thanks. > Your blended window borders lack any significant difference between active and inactive windows. I can see what you're trying to do but to pull it off you'd have to be able to theme the actual inactive windows differently too so they blend with a titlebar that shows the difference clearly. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Who's Vague Direction (WAS mac-unt-ista?)
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who wrote: >> Specifically the awesome Rueben theme >> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876 >> >> Anyone wanting to work in this vague direction? > > Reuben has many elements to like. In no particular order: > > 1) The linework is much closer to some notion of elegant. In > particular, the patented Tango heavy outlines are avoided. It is easy > to suggest that the technique lends itself to words such as 'elegant', > 'delicate', and 'sophisticated'. Contrast that with the other interface > elements that are prevalent in nearly every GTK theme -- which are far > closer to 'heavy' and 'clunky'. > Really? Where I come from we call things like Reuben 'pixel art' and it went out of style around the time video game consoles got 3D accelerators. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
On Feb 8, 2008 5:01 AM, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an idea, and something I have been wanting for a long time... > > Get rid of the 'Desktop' as a file store - remove it from the directory > hierarchy! > > The only reason to store something on the desktop is if you can't be > bothered to put it where it's meant to go. Ideally everything should be > in the home folder, rather than split across a locations. Everything > else - shortcuts, pseudo-icons could remain but only if handled by the > system in an organised fashion ala Mac OS (drives and folders down RHS). > > The mixing of shortcuts, files, and system icons is generally a bad idea > as you don't know whats what largely. Generally most desktops are just > an ugly mess. > > If you remove the desktop-as-a-junkstore paradigm that everyone always > does because everyone's always done it it opens up many new > opportunities for using the desktop as an actual interface rather than > the reliance on toolbars. It would also make a more intuitive system as > you have more space to work with (as it will hide behind windows) so you > are not constrained to 32px height restrictions. Actually, the desktop effectively does not exist exactly because it is covered almost all the time. This is probably why people don't worry about using it as a junk store, they never see it unless they're diving in there to get something anyway. Kind of like the junk drawer on your real desk. :) > > You could have multiple icons for various things that would expand out > when hovered or clicked such as home folder, drives, places, software > etc. You could shade all the controls or slide them out of the way when > the desktop has no focus to prevent accidental clicks, and maybe slide > the home folder out if someone does try to drag something to the desktop > to make it obvious that's not where it goes. > > I've done a quick mockup of what I think would improve on the GUI. > Obviously it's not perfect but there may be some good ideas there. With > all the effort being spent on all the other areas of Ubuntu, more should > be spent on the interface. > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Union mock-up compiz problem.
On Jan 8, 2008 12:43 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if we eliminate the menu's transparency and somehow force the panel to > be drawn at a higher z-index than the menu? Is that possible? That would > make the panel cover up the shadow we need to eliminate. > > Either way this effect is money, and I really hope we can figure it out. > > Corey > Can't do that, popup windows are always on top of everything else, no matter what. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Union mock-up compiz problem.
On Jan 8, 2008 1:37 AM, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That doesn't stop people from enabling the shadow themselves, unfortunately, > but window decorations shouldn't be Compiz's business anyway. > What, if not the Window Manager, do you think should be repsonsible for window decorations? I bet metacity with compositing enabled has the same problem because (like all other WMs) it controls the window decorations too. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On 1/3/07, Alexander van Loon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I commented on that bug and asked for information. It seems that the bug > is a Pango bug, not a DejaVu bug, and that DejaVu has worked around the > bug. Currently when using DejaVu from Ubuntu's repo on Edgy, the bug > does not show up. > Now that this bug is ruled out, are there other reasons for not adopting > DejaVu as the default font in Ubuntu yet? > That specific bug wasn't the problem, read the whole discussion. >From Behdad in that discussion: > All Microsoft fonts with Arabic glyphs are absolutely ugly for Persian, the > Arabic glyphs in DejaVu will definitely be ugly for Persian too, for a very > simple reason: Arabic fonts are ugly for Persian speakers. Persian simply > prefer other styles. Persian fonts and Arabic fonts are not suitable for > Urdu. > And these three languages share the same script, aka the Arabic script. So, > no matter how much effort you put into making the Arabic glyphs in DejaVu > perfect, it will be: > > 1) Not needed for 5 billion of people in the world that don't know Arabic, > you are just making a lean Latin font, a huge pig now. > > 2) Unusable for Persian and Urdu speakers, a good few hundred millions, and > they cannot easily use DejaVu with their favorite Persian/Urdu font anymore. > > 3) Not necessarily the style they want to use with their DejaVu font for > those who actually are Arabic speakers, and again, you have made it harder for > them to choose which font to use for which script. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On 12/21/06, Alexander van Loon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the > fonts used in Ubuntu. > > Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but > why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of > Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? > That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, > why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there > is one font which is the best choice? > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758 -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Human for Murrine, what else do I have to say?
On 7/23/06, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Human actually looks pretty nice under the Murrine engine, kinda like a Ubuntulooks 2.0 actually! Screenshot? -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [TT-Tropic] Wallpaper Color...
On 7/20/06, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. For some reason, I can't access gnome-look, or kde-look or any other site on their network from any computer on my network (even my Windows computer that I do my mail from). I don't know why, I can get at it from a Proxy but not any way else! The wallpaper is http://www.free.pages.at/fun-total/wallpaper/BlankGreen1600.jpg -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Quick Update
On 6/26/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [huge snip] Just wondering: _are_ there any published guidelines and/or colour palettes for the Human icon set? If there are, are they being followed? One or both of these questions appears to be have "no" as an answer. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Main page discussion
On 6/15/06, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I prefer the Novell one: it's basic and points to all/most of the important stuff, while the redhat site is very busy, and their menus are half-unreadable (which is not surprising if you look at their style-sheets). And I hate (semi-)unreadable sites, sorry. ;-) The RedHat site doesn't even display right here in Epiphany, probably due to font settings. However, the Novell website set off the WTF-o-meter. They're using _flash_ on a linux page. Even worse, they only use it to change the background of a button on rollover, something easily doable in CSS that works with (basically) any browser that's been released since 2000 or so. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Uspash
On 5/12/06, Joao Inacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any reason why the image should be scaled from 640x480 to 640x400 and not cropped, keeping the aspect ratio? IMHO the scaled down image looks really uncool... vga16fb (the framebuffer used to show the usplash image) is 640x400. They look squished now but when usplash is using them they work fine. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Uspash
You can't do a non-black background, it won't look right on some systems because usplash doesn't fill the entire monitor. Using black makes it look like usplash controls the entire monitor instead of having it stick out as a tan island surrounded by black. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Improper contrast in default theme?
On 5/11/06, Étienne Bersac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wonder also what is the palette of Human ? Looking at the icons the answer seems to be "every color you can think of". -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Orange
On 4/13/06, Javier Aravena C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you must have clearlooks-cairo Any way to make it use ubuntulooks? -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Orange
On 4/13/06, Javier Aravena C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how would that look with the ubuntulooks engine, besides, > it's way to late to say that, I mean, most of the work has already been > done in orange, to redo it would take way too much time, however I > support the Ideas for dapper+1. To see how a brown and green theme would > look take a look to the theme I'm using right now > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37635. it's beautiful > and looks really neat with tangerine. I can't seem to get this theme to work, when I install it and try to use it I get the stock gtk look. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Switching Distros
On 4/3/06, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > p.s. The color change you did to Ubuntulooks is UGLY! I liked it better > in Orange on the Window Borders, and what you have done to Kubuntu...is > too bad to describe! Bright orange would have had me switching to Fedora too. Ubuntulooks is much better now compared to flight 5. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Another splash concept
On 3/9/06, j Mak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is my version of the splash image: > > http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/2575/ubuntusplash4as.png > > J. Mak Looks nice. Two things though: 1) The reflection of "ubuntu" is too opaque, try fading it out a bit more. 2) The black bar doesn't really fit, perhaps brown would be better? -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] SandSkater preview
On 3/9/06, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have updated SandSkater to version 0.3. I really need some > feedback ... > > * Screenshot: http://www.skim.dk/SandSkater/SandSkater.jpg > * Theme: http://www.skim.dk/SandSkater/SandSkater-0.3.tar.gz > You should make the panel the same color as the menus, otherwise drawers and the main menu look weird. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] 2nd screenshot
On 2/3/06, Ravindu Hanwella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well i am good only in graphics and visualizing. I have no idea bout > how system goes on and how hardware running. anyway it's up to you to > tell me what should be changed. thanks!!! cheers > Ravindu > It almost looks like you want Symphony OS. :) -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Usplash Gone Wild!
On 12/19/05, leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't notice anything new in the screenshot. It's just a creative use of the 16 colors they have available. There are no new features there. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme Suggestion...
On 11/16/05, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know that new Nexenta OS project for a Debian based Solaris that was > based off Ubuntu Breezy? I have noticed that they have a pretty nice > default theme setup. I'm not pointing out the Dropline Neu icons (which > do look nice btw), but their new Window Decoration named Solar is what > gets pointed out right now. I've noticed that Brezzy's artwork kinda had > a Glass theme (like Hoary's theme was Sparkles). I think Dapper should > continue the glass look but more advanced. Using a modified version of > Solar would be a pretty nice idea (modified means that we could adjust > the buttons a little bit and make it a bit more reddish), so who's up > for it? > > http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=495&slide=25 > > Viper550 > I think it looks too childish to be a default theme. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Preparing for Dapper Drake
On 10/20/05, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis Watkins wrote: > Let's try that again! > > viper550 > > I think it'd look perfect if the Ubuntu logo was left in it's original state (no grids or anything). -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Preparing for Dapper Drake
On 10/19/05, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, we really need to prepare for good ol' Dapper Drake. I already > have an idea for the graphical theme, my idea is based around the Grid. > The grid here represents the plotting of major goals for Dapper Drake, > making it the Vista of Linux Distros, with big changes, and big ideas. > > I'm already working on some new graphics for it, but I've already made > some stuff, I was aiming for Breezy Badger with them but...your whole > glass thing overshadowed it.alot. My best work for this theme was my > splash screen (attached). My mixture of the human colors really makes it > look unique > > So, does this seem cool to you? > > Viper550 > It looks great, although I'd fade the grid in a bit more. Also, one of the goals I've heard for GNOME 2.14 is to make it startup so fast a splash screen isn't needed anymore. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Just to check
On 10/19/05, Dylan Dunne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, > I opened up Pandora's Box... > So we're shooting for having a meeting this upcoming/next Saturday at > 1200 UTC in our IRC channel? I included a bit of a chart to convert > that to US time zones (unless you're in the military over here, you > don't go by a 24 hour clock). For me that's 6, so is everyone cool with > this time? > > UTC ATL EST CST MST PST ALA HAW > difference -4 -5 -6 -7 -8 -9 -10 > 00 8P* 7P* 6P* 5P* 4P* 3P* 2P* > 01 9P* 8P* 7P* 6P* 5P* 4P* 3P* > 02 10P* 9P* 8P* 7P* 6P* 5P* 4P* > 03 11P* 10P* 9P* 8P* 7P* 6P* 5P* > 04 12A 11P* 10P* 9P* 8P* 7P* 6P* > 05 1A 12A 11P* 10P* 9P* 8P* 7P* > 06 2A 1A 12A 11P* 10P* 9P* 8P* > 07 3A 2A 1A 12A 11P* 10P* 9P* > 08 4A 3A 2A 1A 12A 11P* 10P* > 09 5A 4A 3A 2A 1A 12A 11P* > 10 6A 5A 4A 3A 2A 1A 12A > 11 7A 6A 5A 4A 3A 2A 1A >* 12 8A 7A 6A 5A 4A 3A 2A* > 13 9A 8A 7A 6A 5A 4A 3A > 14 10A 9A 8A 7A 6A 5A 4A > 15 11A 10A 9A 8A 7A 6A 5A > 16 12P 11A 10A 9A 8A 7A 6A > 17 1P 12P 11A 10A 9A 8A 7A > 18 2P 1P 12P 11A 10A 9A 8A > 19 3P 2P 1P 12P 11A 10A 9A > 20 4P 3P 2P 1P 12P 11A 10A > 21 5P 4P 3P 2P 1P 12P 11A > 22 6P 5P 4P 3P 2P 1P 12P > 23 7P 6P 5P 4P 3P 2P 1P > > * represents previous day > (i.e. 03 hours 23 January 93 is 8PM-MST 22 January) > One problem: until the end of the month most of the country is running on daylight savings time so your table is +1 hour off. :) -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New member (Sweden)
On 8/1/05, Markus Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, Clearlooks is gonna be default? > Thats something I didnt know, but: great! Clearlooks is the engine behind the theme in hoary as well. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] No to the mask!
On 7/22/05, Nikolai Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually, I've done a "stylized" badger already for the mascot competition ;) > > unfortunately for you, it has my medicine mask on it aswell... but > maybe you'll think it fits better in this context?! see my thread: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22434&page=4&pp=10 > > cheers, n.! No offense, it's a good drawing, but that mask creeps me out. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Art team site
On 7/21/05, Oliver Grawert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i personally would prefer something like art.gnome.org uses since the > interface is easier and even my mother would find what she looks for > there, imho gnome-look.org and kde-look.org have usabilty issues, but > since is a team effort here, we should get input and a sane discussion > from the people who use it and make a decision based on this... > (putting the list on CC) art.gnome.org is so much nicer it's almost a joke. That code should be in GNOME CVS too. I don't even know if you can get the code for gnome-look.org -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [UBUNTU-ART] Humility Icon feedback
On 7/17/05, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Truly, I really really hate to say this, but I think the entire theme > is a regression from the clearlooks default, as it is muddy and > indistinct. Clearlooks default? That'd either be GNOME's default icons (ugly) or Andy's other icon theme, etiquette (called Human in Ubuntu). Which one do you mean? -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
