Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Hi Rob, The alternate installer you can specify where you put your /home, i have not used the live cd for a while so I am not sure. Even if it does not detect that partition it can be added later. One thing I would suggest is to record the list of programs you have running and install them on the new install, do this by running: dpkg --get-selections > /home/user/packages Once you have reinstalled ubuntu run: dpkg --set-selections < /home/user/packages This will mark them all for selection and just run aptitude to install the same set of applications that you had before. One program I would install once you have finished reinstalling is etckeeper. etckeeper is a tool that automatically stores changes to your /etc config files in version control such as bzr in case you mess up a config for a program. On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 18:18 +1000, Rob Farquhar wrote: > Cary, Lisa, thank you both for your advice! I'll give it a whirl this > weekend and let you know how I do. > > Do I need to do anything during the reformat/reinstall to tell Ubuntu to > recognise my existing /home partition as the location of /home, or will > it figure it out itself? > > ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > From: > > Cary Bielenberg > > Date: > > Wed, 20 May 2009 19:11:08 +1000 > > > > Rob, > > I believe that the official line is that you can't upgrade from Hardy -> > > Jaunty but I have done it 7 times so far with no ill effects. Admittedly > > all my installs have been Kubuntu & the only problem is the kde3 to 4 > > upgrade & deleting the .kde directory in the users home folder fixes > > this. If your using Gnome I really can't see any problems. > > > > > > Cary > > > From: > > Lisa Milne > > Date: > > Wed, 20 May 2009 19:12:39 +1000 > > > > Not at all, I've done that numerous times when swapping distro's, you > > don't even need to delete anything, just jump straight into the install > > and let it reformat the partition (and make sure it's not formatting > > the /home partition!). > > > > Lisa > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Cary, Lisa, thank you both for your advice! I'll give it a whirl this weekend and let you know how I do. Do I need to do anything during the reformat/reinstall to tell Ubuntu to recognise my existing /home partition as the location of /home, or will it figure it out itself? ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > From: > Cary Bielenberg > Date: > Wed, 20 May 2009 19:11:08 +1000 > > Rob, > I believe that the official line is that you can't upgrade from Hardy -> > Jaunty but I have done it 7 times so far with no ill effects. Admittedly > all my installs have been Kubuntu & the only problem is the kde3 to 4 > upgrade & deleting the .kde directory in the users home folder fixes > this. If your using Gnome I really can't see any problems. > > > Cary > From: > Lisa Milne > Date: > Wed, 20 May 2009 19:12:39 +1000 > > Not at all, I've done that numerous times when swapping distro's, you > don't even need to delete anything, just jump straight into the install > and let it reformat the partition (and make sure it's not formatting > the /home partition!). > > Lisa -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
I upgraded a desktop last week using the update manager and the mirror at my ISP (iprimus). It was a two step process, automatic upgrade from LTS 8.04 to 8.10, then 8.10 to 9.04 no problems with any settings etc. This system had been out of action for a couple of months and my ISP does not count this as part of my usage. It did take a while to download and install everything (about 4-6 hrs for each upgrade), so if you want something up and running quickly then a CD/DVD/USB is faster. Steven ps. sorry about replying to simon instead of list On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Simon Ives wrote: > I agree, updating works wonderfully with Ubuntu. One of my notebooks has > been running Ubuntu since 6.x, has been upgraded with every release, and now > runs 9.04 fine. > > I've got a 2gb USB thumb drive that I use for updating. I have the latest > stable image that I can boot from to test how things work 'out of the box' > and subsequently scour the forums etc. for any fixes that I may need. On > the same USB thumb drive I keep the latest alternate image to upgrade from. > The USB thumb drive is good for fixing/upgrading unresponsive systems too. > > If you don't want to upgrade via the net (bandwidth or account metering > concerns etc.) then download the alternate image. You then mount the image > and follow the on-screen upgrade instructions. > > To mount the image execute (with the correct path): > > sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0 > > if the upgrade screen isn't then displayed execute: > > gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade" > > I've never upgraded while skipping a stable release though (e.g. 8.04 -> > 9.04) so I've got no advice or experience there. > > -- > SIMON IVES > www.simonives.info > - > Please consider the environment > before printing this email or any > attachments. > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
I agree, updating works wonderfully with Ubuntu. One of my notebooks has been running Ubuntu since 6.x, has been upgraded with every release, and now runs 9.04 fine. I've got a 2gb USB thumb drive that I use for updating. I have the latest stable image that I can boot from to test how things work 'out of the box' and subsequently scour the forums etc. for any fixes that I may need. On the same USB thumb drive I keep the latest alternate image to upgrade from. The USB thumb drive is good for fixing/upgrading unresponsive systems too. If you don't want to upgrade via the net (bandwidth or account metering concerns etc.) then download the alternate image. You then mount the image and follow the on-screen upgrade instructions. To mount the image execute (with the correct path): sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0 if the upgrade screen isn't then displayed execute: gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade" I've never upgraded while skipping a stable release though (e.g. 8.04 -> 9.04) so I've got no advice or experience there. -- SIMON IVES www.simonives.info - Please consider the environment before printing this email or any attachments. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Dave Hall wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 19:42 +1000, Scott Evans wrote: > >> I tend to agree with the suggestion to start afresh and go with a clean >> install. When I updated my 8.10 to 9.04 due to the amount of stuff I >> have on my desktop PC the upgrade was around 2Gb of downloaded data! as >> compared to just 700Mb for the install CD. >> >> Just make sure that you don't overwrite your Window$ partition! :P >> > > Why? It is one of the first things I do with a new machine :P > :-) > As for fresh install vs upgrade. I always upgrade. When I got my new > laptop, I dumped the list of installed packages from my old laptop, did > a basic install on the new one, installed the list of packages from the > old one. Next I copied /etc and /home over from the old one. I took > the opportunity to switch from i386 to amd64. The old laptop started > off running warty (or hoary) I forget which one, and has been upgraded > to pre beta versions regularly. > > Took me an afternoon to do all that. Ubuntu is built on a Debian base. > It is designed to be upgraded, unlike some RPM based distros which still > struggle with upgrades. The only time you should need to reinstall is > if you have a disk failure and you don't have backups or you want to > switch distros. I was going to write about this, but Dave beat me to it! However, let me repeat the important part: "Ubuntu is built on a Debian base. It is designed to be upgraded." My laptop started on 8.04 amd64 and has been upgraded to 8.10 and 9.04. Both went flawlessly. I recently upgraded my wife's desktop from 8.10 i386 to 9.04. It started life on 7.04. I've never had easier or smoother upgrades than on Ubuntu. There are always minor issues with upgrades (e.g. scanning from my HP OfficeJet broke on the 9.04 upgrade and i haven't worked out what's wrong yet), but in general they work well. I do too many customizations to my systems to be able to just reinstall every time. Paul begin:vcard fn:Paul Gear n:Gear;Paul org:Liberty Systems & Software email;internet:p...@libertysys.com.au tel;work:07 3122 2198 tel;cell:04 3183 7656 url:http://libertysys.com.au/ version:2.1 end:vcard smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 19:42 +1000, Scott Evans wrote: > I tend to agree with the suggestion to start afresh and go with a clean > install. When I updated my 8.10 to 9.04 due to the amount of stuff I > have on my desktop PC the upgrade was around 2Gb of downloaded data! as > compared to just 700Mb for the install CD. > > Just make sure that you don't overwrite your Window$ partition! :P Why? It is one of the first things I do with a new machine :P As for fresh install vs upgrade. I always upgrade. When I got my new laptop, I dumped the list of installed packages from my old laptop, did a basic install on the new one, installed the list of packages from the old one. Next I copied /etc and /home over from the old one. I took the opportunity to switch from i386 to amd64. The old laptop started off running warty (or hoary) I forget which one, and has been upgraded to pre beta versions regularly. Took me an afternoon to do all that. Ubuntu is built on a Debian base. It is designed to be upgraded, unlike some RPM based distros which still struggle with upgrades. The only time you should need to reinstall is if you have a disk failure and you don't have backups or you want to switch distros. Cheers Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
I tend to agree with the suggestion to start afresh and go with a clean install. When I updated my 8.10 to 9.04 due to the amount of stuff I have on my desktop PC the upgrade was around 2Gb of downloaded data! as compared to just 700Mb for the install CD. Just make sure that you don't overwrite your Window$ partition! :P -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Hi rob, I think i would personally recommend a clean install. As you said, you have your home directory on a separate partition, this makes it very convenient to do a fresh upgrade. Myself, I have my home directory also on a different partition, and a script of install commands (apt-get install) for software which i typically always use. So a quick Ubuntu install, and 10 minutes of running the script, and i am back up and running, with the new operating system, and my previous settings. > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:04:41 +1000 > From: Rob Farquhar > Subject: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4a13c7a9.10...@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, everyone. I've been lurking for a little while and am hoping I'm not > being too forward in using my first post to ask for a little help! > > I'm currently running 8.04 as a dual-boot with Windows XP on my home > machine. It's been a whi8le since I last seriously fiddled with my > Ubuntu installation and I'm thinking bout upgrading to the latest > version. I understand that I can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, > though. > > I'm wondering, as I've mounted the main OS files on a separate partition > from my /home directories, whether I can delete my OS partition and > install 9.04 straight over it. Am I asking for too much trouble? > > Thanks, > > Rob Farquhar > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Not at all, I've done that numerous times when swapping distro's, you don't even need to delete anything, just jump straight into the install and let it reformat the partition (and make sure it's not formatting the /home partition!). Lisa On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 19:04 +1000, Rob Farquhar wrote: > Hi, everyone. I've been lurking for a little while and am hoping I'm not > being too forward in using my first post to ask for a little help! > > I'm currently running 8.04 as a dual-boot with Windows XP on my home > machine. It's been a whi8le since I last seriously fiddled with my > Ubuntu installation and I'm thinking bout upgrading to the latest > version. I understand that I can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, > though. > > I'm wondering, as I've mounted the main OS files on a separate partition > from my /home directories, whether I can delete my OS partition and > install 9.04 straight over it. Am I asking for too much trouble? > > Thanks, > > Rob Farquhar > -- WebLinux - Linux live on the web! http://www.weblinux-live.org -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Rob, I believe that the official line is that you can't upgrade from Hardy -> Jaunty but I have done it 7 times so far with no ill effects. Admittedly all my installs have been Kubuntu & the only problem is the kde3 to 4 upgrade & deleting the .kde directory in the users home folder fixes this. If your using Gnome I really can't see any problems. Cary Rob Farquhar wrote: > Hi, everyone. I've been lurking for a little while and am hoping I'm not > being too forward in using my first post to ask for a little help! > > I'm currently running 8.04 as a dual-boot with Windows XP on my home > machine. It's been a whi8le since I last seriously fiddled with my > Ubuntu installation and I'm thinking bout upgrading to the latest > version. I understand that I can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, > though. > > I'm wondering, as I've mounted the main OS files on a separate partition > from my /home directories, whether I can delete my OS partition and > install 9.04 straight over it. Am I asking for too much trouble? > > Thanks, > > Rob Farquhar > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
Hi, everyone. I've been lurking for a little while and am hoping I'm not being too forward in using my first post to ask for a little help! I'm currently running 8.04 as a dual-boot with Windows XP on my home machine. It's been a whi8le since I last seriously fiddled with my Ubuntu installation and I'm thinking bout upgrading to the latest version. I understand that I can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, though. I'm wondering, as I've mounted the main OS files on a separate partition from my /home directories, whether I can delete my OS partition and install 9.04 straight over it. Am I asking for too much trouble? Thanks, Rob Farquhar -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
