[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2009-06-03 Thread komputes
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #510205
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** Also affects: gnucash via
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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2009-06-03 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnucash
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2009-06-03 Thread komputes
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #510230
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510230

** Also affects: gimp via
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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Summary changed:

- firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management
+ gnome clipboard contents wiped erased after program quits. now affects 
multiple programs.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2009-02-09 Thread Magnes
But there is clipboard manager in Gnome which should take care of this,
no? Why it's not working with Firefox (it works with some other
applications).

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-12-30 Thread Patrick Roberts
@markor:
Like Arthur  said: Using Glipper is a workaround. Glipper is a clipboard 
manager which keeps a list of previous clipboard items. When you copy something 
Glipper saves the copied text into a file which is located in a hidden 
directory within your homedirectory. This file is just a text file, so Glipper 
doesn't work with images.

To test this, do the following:
- Start Firefox;
- Click with the right mouse button on an image and choose to copy this image;
- Keep Firefox open and now start The GIMP;
- Click on Acquire and choose Paste as New;
- The image was on the clipboard, so it could be pasted as a new file.

Now do the following:
- Close The GIMP and go back to Firefox;
- Click with the right mouse button on an image and choose to copy this image;
- Now close Firefox BEFORE you start The GIMP;
- Click on Acquire and choose Paste as New;
- The image wasn't found on the clipboard, so it couldn't be pasted as a new 
file.

The same behavior appears with text if you don't use a clipboard manager. To 
test it, disable Glipper and do the following:
- Start Firefox;
- Select some text within Firefox and copy this text;
- Close Firefox and now start Gedit;
- Try to paste the text you've copied;
- The text wasn't found on the clipboard, so it couldn't be pasted into Gedit 
(if you click with your right mouse button, you'll see the option called 
paste is greyed out, so it isn't available anymore, because the clipboard is 
empty).

@John Vivirito:
Read my reply to markor for steps to reproduce this bug.

How copy/paste works in X:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html

The old way of copy paste was:
- Select some text;
- Click with the middle mouse button to paste.

This still works:
- Select some text on this page;
- Go to the Comment field at the end of this page;
- Press middle mouse button.

Selecting some text is the copy process and pressing the middle mouse
button is the paste process. If you close the application that holds the
selected text, you can't paste it anymore.

Most people are used to the way copy/paste works in Windows. It's also
implemented in Linux, but it doesn't work in the same way. In Windows
you can close an application and Windows remembers the text or picture
you copied.

In copy/paste still works the same as the old way of selecting and middle 
clicking:
- Select some text and copy it (actually it's the same as only selecting the 
text without copying it);
- Paste it elsewhere (actually it's the same as pressing the middle mouse 
button).

Instead of copying the text to the a clipboard and remembering the
contents of this clipboard till some other application overwrites the
contents, the process still works like the old way of selecting and
middle clicking: you still have to keep the application open in order to
be able to paste the text elsewhere.

I found this blog which describes how it works:
http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-clipboard.html

It says:
The way it works is that it's more like a token that gets handed round. So if 
you copy in Firefox and paste Rhythmbox, what happened was that at copy-time 
Firefox said if anyone wants the contents of the clipboard, they should ask 
me, and at paste time Rhythmbox asked who has the clipboard contents?, was 
told Firefox, and asked Firefox could I have the clipboard contents?. Which 
is all nice and efficient, saving unnecessary copying... until someone copies, 
quits, and tries to paste. Now the application with the data is no longer 
running, so it's gone.

This is not how a clipboard should work.

Gnome fixed this for their own applications (like Gedit), so you can
copy something, then close the application and paste it into another
application. The problem is a lot of applications don't use this way of
copy/paste which Gnome uses (the freedesktop.org way), but still use the
old way.

Even if Firefox uses freedesktop.org specifications of copy/paste, the problem 
is solved only for one application. There are a lot of other applications which 
use the old way of copy/paste. To completely fix this bug there are two ways:
- Rewrite / patch every application that doesn't work in the right way;
- Use a clipboard manager which remembers what has been copied.

Glipper and Klipper are clipboard managers for Gnome and KDE. They write
copied text to a file in your homedirectory. When using Glipper or
Klipper you can always paste, even after closing the application, even
after a reboot.

Unfortunately there are also pronlems with these applications:
- The file which keeps your history is text file, so these applications don't 
work with pictures or sound;
- Bugs when copying/pasting charts into OpenOffice.org;
- Errors about not being able to add Glipper to the panel after a reboot.

A few weeks ago I discoverd Desktop Data Manager:
http://data-manager.sourceforge.net/

This application can also handle pictures. You can copy an image, close
Firefox and paste the image in The GIMP. After doing so, 

[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-12-22 Thread markor
I think I am not experiencing this bug. 
I use Xubuntu Hardy/8.04.1 amd64 with current Firefox 3.0.5.
I currently run Glipper (1.0-1ubuntu1) with XfApplet(0.1.0-3ubuntu2) inside 
Xfce panel.

When I copy text in Firefox and then close firefox I can paste text.
It is also listed in the Glipper Clipboard list. I am not sure, maybe this bug 
is fixed for Firefox? 
Or I am not good at reproducing it/don`t understand bug report?

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-12-22 Thread Arthur
@markor: Using Glipper is a workaround. It's Glipper which keeps the
content in the clipboard.

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Re: [Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-12-22 Thread John Vivirito
On 12/22/2008 10:35 AM, Arthur wrote:
 @markor: Using Glipper is a workaround. It's Glipper which keeps the
 content in the clipboard.
 
I'm having issues reproducing this bug. Can you please list steps to
reproce, or is it just copy/paste info from firefox?

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Re: [Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-12-06 Thread Alexander Sack
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:19:41PM -, Magnes wrote:
 It's taking time for Mozilla to fix this. Maybe it should be fixed by
 Ubuntu team and then send to Mozilla? It's important bug.
 

I think its not understood what is really wanted ... and then how to
do that in a toolkit unspecific fashion (e.g. on low X level).

 - Alexander

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-11-16 Thread Patrick Roberts
This is a really annoying bug.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-11-06 Thread Magnes
It's taking time for Mozilla to fix this. Maybe it should be fixed by
Ubuntu team and then send to Mozilla? It's important bug.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-06-07 Thread Bob Radu
Confirmed (again) with Firefox 3.05b on Hardy (GNOME 2.22.2)

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-06-07 Thread Saïvann Carignan
** Changed in: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-05-20 Thread DH
Glipper is actually not a fix anymore, unlike what I posted earlier.  It 
doesn't work, and glipper has its own set of bugs (you can't copy  paste 
images or charts in openoffice for example):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/104432
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/185624

So basically copy  paste between applications is broken still in Ubuntu
Hardy with no current workaround.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-29 Thread MankyGitt
more that the clipboard being cleared, I am finding that if I select and copy 
text from a page in firefox and paste it to another app: Gedit, Lotus Notes 8, 
OpenOfficeOrg Word Processor, the text values are corrupted. I get replacement 
characters: 
examples  (copying the URL address from Firefox, to paste here - again, in 
firefox)
or   Ÿ钀 (copying page text and pasting here in firefox)

I am running ubuntu 7.10, with standard current patched inclusions, plus 
eclipse, Lotus Notes 8, and VirtualBox 1.5.6 PUEL and CLAMAV
I have also observed this bug with other applications, but am unclear as to 
whether I'd already attempted to run firefox in that session.. need to test 
this more clearly.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-29 Thread MankyGitt
Further information: It appears that active VMs in VirtualBox can
contribute to this bug: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/611

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-28 Thread Johan
This is still present in the released version of Hardy. Just
experienced the bug.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-13 Thread mnemo
Adding myself as subscriber.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-13 Thread mnemo
I just installed the pre-relase Hardy and I ran into this bug. I run
into this bug at least once a week and it annoys me every time.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-04-13 Thread DarkMageZ
This bug has been open since pre-release dapper. We've had edgy  feisty  
gutsy since then, we are now about to have yet another LTS release...
These types of issues should never survive a single release cycle, let alone 2 
LTS's! Since upstream does not care about linux, I'm calling for either the 
mozilla-bugs team to quit passing the buck to upstream or the removal of 
Firefox  Xulrunner from Ubuntu.

Assigning Mozilla Bugs to the xulrunner-1.9 component.

** Changed in: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)

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Re: [Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-02-19 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 11:11:42PM -, Saïvann Carignan wrote:
 This is not specific to Firefox, I can reproduce that bug on evolution,
 thunderbird, pidgin, virtualbox, gnucash, sunbird, GIMP, OpenOffice. The
 only one programs that I tried that doesn't have this bug was gedit. The
 firefox developers on the upstream bug seems to have the same opinion.
 This bug is still not fixed in Hardy and Gutsy, I believe that we should
 find to which package is really the source of this bug because it
 affects a lot of programs and users.
 

This won't be fixed for firefox 2 anymore. xulrunner-1.9 is now the
place to track this for mozillas.

 affects ubuntu/firefox
 status wontfix
 affects ubuntu/xulrunner-1.9
 status confirmed
 

 - Alexander


** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Won't Fix

** Also affects: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: Confirmed

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-02-18 Thread Jackflap
It's funny how freedesktop expect everyone to adhere to a standard that
neither no other OS has implemented, and then no one adhere's to it, and
thus the feature doesn't actually work like it should do because one
community expects the ownus to be on everyone else, copy/pasting has
become a bit of a joke.

I mean this is pretty standard stuff, the end-user, my mother, brother
and sister don't care whether evolution, thunderbird, pidgin,
virtualbox, gnucash, sunbird, GIMP, and OpenOffice aren't adhering to
the standard, they expect copy/paste to work. I realize that it's not
about the majority here, if so, Microsoft's implementaion of HTML should
be officially standardized for everyone to use, but about each community
to have the right to say 'I will not implement that in that way'.

However, I do feel that it is Ubuntu's responsibility to make the
desktop experience seamless for the user. Until the bugs have been
reported and solved in all the aforementioned applications, I feel it
would be a very reasonable solution for Ubuntu to come with a clipboard
manager by default, and tolerate the performance loss until things are
implemented properly.

Glipper doesn't cut it to be honest. You have to manually access the
clipboard history (which is one-click, admittedly ) in order to retrieve
the lost contents. However, either a patch to glipper so that it
compensates for this bug is needed, or another manager which does the
task properly.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-02-18 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Jackflap : I agree with you that we should all work to make things just
working and that this new standard is a bit frustrating, but all OS
have their own specifications for everything. The freedesktop
specifications already had some modifications in the past and all apps
fixed quickly to comply. These standards modifications does not happen
often but apps must follow these specifications in order to work
correctly. The standard must exist in the sense that if it would not
exist, no apps would be able to use clipboard at all. If we expect
clipboard to exist in Linux, there must be a respected standard like in
any other OS. I think that it's pretty faster to fix this little problem
in all apps than integrating a special clipboard manager but I might be
wrong.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-01-24 Thread DH
Note if you use glipper as a workaround, glipper has a bug with copying and 
pasting charts in openoffice.
You'll need to download and compile the latest version of glipper yourself 
rather than use the out of
date version in Ubuntu:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/185624

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-01-16 Thread Saïvann Carignan
According to Chris Cheney comment, it seems that this bug will have to
get fixed in all linux application which doesn't comply with
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager . There was no error in
the package of that bug report.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-01-16 Thread Saïvann Carignan
This is not specific to Firefox, I can reproduce that bug on evolution,
thunderbird, pidgin, virtualbox, gnucash, sunbird, GIMP, OpenOffice. The
only one programs that I tried that doesn't have this bug was gedit. The
firefox developers on the upstream bug seems to have the same opinion.
This bug is still not fixed in Hardy and Gutsy, I believe that we should
find to which package is really the source of this bug because it
affects a lot of programs and users.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Cheney
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ClipboardManager

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2008-01-13 Thread DH
This is a basic bug that should have a very high priority.

Anytime you copy something in Firefox, Thunderbird, any OpenOffice
application, or a number of applications, the contents of the clipboard
shouldn't disappear after you close the application.

So this isn't just a firefox issue.  It also happens with all the
OpenOffice applications and numerous others.

If glipper is a workaround that works (I don't know), then it should be
installed and enabled by default in Ubuntu.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-12-23 Thread Ceriak
Confirmed on Gutsy. Really annoying.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-11-22 Thread geeknik
I can confirm that this behavior is still present in Ubuntu 7.10 and
Firefox 2.0.0.8.  Rather annoying to see the clipboard emptied after you
close Firefox.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-05-15 Thread Magnes
I confirm this behavior of Firefox in Feisty Fawn. Still after closing
the browser the clipboard is emptied.

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-02-24 Thread David Farning
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-02-19 Thread Alexander Sack
upstream confirmed bugs are 'In Progress' for us.

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2007-01-26 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: firefox (upstream)
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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-01-25 Thread Pascal De Vuyst
** Summary changed:

- firefox doesnt work with gnome 2.12 clipboard management
+ firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

** Tags added: breezy dapper edgy

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https://launchpad.net/bugs/21202

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[Bug 21202] Re: firefox doesn't work with gtk clipboard management

2007-01-25 Thread Pascal De Vuyst
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #311340
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340

** Also affects: firefox (upstream) via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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