[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-08-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The bug system should not be used as a support tracker, it's meant to
describe clearly bugs and suggest what to do. This bug has turned to a
debug session with no clear description and several screens of comment,
that's not managable and that's one of the reasons why it's closed. If
you have a clear description of the issue and how to trigger it feel
free to open a new bug

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-08-24 Thread Aaron Whitehouse
*Sigh*... the joys of free software. Again, something doesn't work
properly and the bug gets marked as "invalid" because one can manually
fix it.

The current behaviour (in Gutsy Tribe 5) is unexpected and unintuitive.
That means that there *is* a bug, we just have to figure out the best
solution to the problem and file the appropriate upstream bugs that will
result in this being fixed.

I propose that we file an upstream to have the volume hotkeys control
both Master and Headphones by default. That seems the intuitive thing
for them to control. People that want to change that to "get more
control" are likely to be a small percentage of advanced users and these
users are likely to be able to find the ability in Sound > Preferences.

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-15 Thread Paul
To be more specific:

PCM controls program output...  The best way I can think to describe it
is what "Wave" would be in Windows.  It does not control everything, but
likely everything that your programs output.  If, for instance, you are
using MIDI, it will not have an impact if the MIDI has its own control.
Microphones, Line-In, etc. all have their own controls and will not be
controlled by PCM volume.

Master relates to speaker output only.  Headphones relates to the
headphone output only.  Master is a bit misleading and it took me a
while to figure it out.  I personally think this is a great setup
because it allows for more control over things.

However, what you CAN do if you would like to have better control over
your sound is in System->Preferences->Sound.  Highlight Master, hold
down CTRL and click on Headphone and have the buttons control BOTH of
those which will give you true control over the sound levels you want.

I was actually having the same problem until I stumbled upon this
thread.  The info here was able to help me achieve my ultimate goal and
I figured I'd share the info.  The reason PCM doesn't suffice for me is
because if I I plug my bass into my line-in for instance, the volume
keys would have no impact on it.  Actually, I have my desktop chained
into my laptop for sound.  My line-in always has my desktop connected to
it.  Even if I lower or mute PCM, the desktop will come through loud and
clear unless I do something to my Mic or Line-In [don't remember which
is which.]  Anyway I hope this helps.

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Re: [Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Rob Frohne
Hi Emilio,

You are right.  The setting that controls both headphones and speaker is
"PCM".

I selected that and both work.

Thanks,

Rob

On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 16:57 +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> Hi Rob.
> 
> That sounds like a sound card problem (that there's no master).
> 
> Please, open gnome-volume-control, and see whether there is a track which 
> controls everything.
> If there is, select it in gnome-sound-properties, and check whether it works.
> If there isn't, then try (in gnome-volume-control) to change the sound device 
> (File>Change Device), and try again with it.
> 
> Thanks
> Emilio
> 
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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Note that it doesn't have to be named "Master". (for me it's PCM)

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi Rob.

That sounds like a sound card problem (that there's no master).

Please, open gnome-volume-control, and see whether there is a track which 
controls everything.
If there is, select it in gnome-sound-properties, and check whether it works.
If there isn't, then try (in gnome-volume-control) to change the sound device 
(File>Change Device), and try again with it.

Thanks
Emilio

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Re: [Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Rob Frohne
Hi Emilio,

I tested it on my Dell D600, and here is what I found.

1)  When I have "Master" selected, it turns the sound up and down on the
speakers, but not the headphones.

2)  When I have have "Headphones" selected, it turns the sound up and
down on the headphones, but not the speakers.

In my understanding "Master" means everything, but that may not be the
case.  Anyway, we need a setting that does everything, not just one or
the other.

Thanks for working on this!

Rob

On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 11:00 +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> Have you changed it in System>Preferences>Sound, at the bottom of the first 
> tab?
> You can change there what the multimedia keys control, so choose the frontal 
> speakers or master volume.
> If that doesn't work, try changing the device (just above it).
> 
> Please, let me know whether it solves your problem.
> 
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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Have you changed it in System>Preferences>Sound, at the bottom of the first tab?
You can change there what the multimedia keys control, so choose the frontal 
speakers or master volume.
If that doesn't work, try changing the device (just above it).

Please, let me know whether it solves your problem.

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Kalyan
I discovered that the volume control is affecting only the output on
headphone jack but not the laptop speakers. So, I would say it is
working but not in the right way.

Let me know what details you want.

thanks,
Kalyan

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-06-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Closing the bug. Please, let me know if the solution doesn't work.

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: Needs Info => Rejected

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-05-14 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
You can change what device control in System>Preferences>Sound, at the
bottom of the first tab.

Does it fixes your issue?

Cheers
Emilio

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: ubuntu-meta => gnome-control-center
   Importance: Undecided => Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
   Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-05-13 Thread Kalyan
I ma having similar problems with ASUS A6M. The volume control shows up
OSD and also changes it ... however, other applications dont seem to
honor it. For ex: if totem is playing, no changes in volume control
affect its output.

Thanks,
Kalyan

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-04-21 Thread randomwalker
same problem, also a dell inspiron.

Looks like there's no one right setting for which volume to control.
Therefore the next best thing would be for this pref to  be in only one
place. It is already in the volume control applet (select the device and
track to control), and therefore the volume keys should respect this
setting.

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-04-21 Thread graey
I have the same and I'm looking around for a fix. It appears to be going
like this because of a nicer OSD for the volume when you enable
compositing (beryl/compiz/etc), that takes over the standard gnome
volume control display... And I'm having quite a hard time finding where
to configure the non-gnome shortcuts ^^

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-04-07 Thread jtbates
I'm also having this problem on Feisty with a Dell Inspiron 1000.  I
opened up the Volume Control preferences and the volume keys do appear
to be controlling the Master channel, however it does not result in a
change in the volume I am getting through my headphones.  If I change
the level of the PCM channel that does change the volume I am getting
through my headphones (and the speaker volume when the headphones aren't
plugged in).

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[Bug 63544] Re: Volume control key controls speaker & not headphones

2007-03-15 Thread Lynoure Braakman
I'm having this same problem on Feisty with HP NC8230.

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