[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
A previous bug on the same topic has instructions for the work around.
>From Bug 841116 comment 7:
echo 'user_pref("extensions.messagingmenu.attentionForAll", true);' >>
~/.thunderbird/*default*/prefs.js
You could also create a new boolean entry in about:config
(Preferences->Advanced->General->ConfigEditor)
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[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
> if you want the icon to turn blue for all messages, we have an about:config pref for that. Chris, could you please post the name of the config option that you refer to? I tried the following ones and none helped: mail.biff.animate_dock_icon; true mail.imap.use_status_for_biff;false Thanks --kannan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
This seems like an anti-feature. In my personal case, no message received through Thunderbird lacks importance. Since I hide the launcher by default, many mails go unnoticed for a time and I find myself randomly mousing over the launcher to check mails. If anyone would be so kind as to _hint_ at the location of this feature in the source code, I would like to return its proper functionality and make it available to my machines via PPA. Thanks in advance. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
For me it was also confusing to me that the Indicator-messages-icon doesn't turn blue anymore in Precise when I receive new mails. If there is any way to turn the blue icon on for all new mails (e.g. the mentioned about:config setting, couldn't find it by myself so far), I would be very grateful to know. Kind regards, Jan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
"Thunderbird actually does turn the icon blue already, but not for all messages." I kill many hours in investigation to determine why indicator turn blue just randomly. I sent tons of messages to myself, and indicator not lights up, why, why, WHY, I was nearly crazy about buggy thunderbird or indicator. :((( I very disappointed. :((( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
I wish message indicator turn blue for ALL new emails, how can I switch this on? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Chris, "The message is addressed directly to the recipient (eg, not CC) AND the message is not low prioirty AND the message wasn't automated AND the message is not from a mailing list" It appears that this check is case-sensitive, so the envelope won't turn blue if the email address (as entered by the user) contains upper case letters. I agree with the sentiment that there should be an option to have the envelope turn blue for any email in the inbox folder. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Hi MPT, could you add a link to the relevant section of the spec here, and when that is done set the ayatana-design status to triaged. Thanks! ** Changed in: ayatana-design Assignee: (unassigned) => Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
@Chris: "And, if you want the icon to turn blue for all messages, we have an about:config pref for that. " My email (work) has multiple aliases so I very rarely get emails directly to my login address. Maybe including the send-aliases too as "directly sent" messages would help... Anyway I've searched around for the about:config pref you mentioned (to set the icon to blue for all messages) but I can't find it / work out what it is. Could you please tell me what it's called? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Mark, isn't what you describe the responsibility of the user? If person is receiving lots of mail they don't expect to read he/she should configure the mail client to filter these mails as Mark As Read when they arrive. This way no Blue Hint occurs because the message is not New/Unread. I have lots of situations like this. I have my mail client configured so that only mail I want to know about (if it arrives) is marked as Unread when it arrives. The other stuff I can read or not read at my leisure but it always lands as Read due to my config. Seems like having to do a "'"to me' filter" etc is making the Blue Hint unnecessarily complicated. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Chris, good move to apply a natural "to me" filter. In addition, however, I think we need a toggle which lets me flag the people who I consider "important", and have emails from those people ONLY turn the message icon blue. Ideally, there would be a central addressbook, and I could favourite specific contacts, and those contacts only would turn the message icon blue. In T-Bird, perhaps this could be done with an option to activate the message icon only for messages tagged [Important, ] where the user could edit those tags? Later on, I assume we'll have a central addressbook, and can do it more elegantly. But for now, the blue hint is not useful for anyone who receives a lot of mail they don't expect to read. Mark -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Thunderbird actually does turn the icon blue already, but not for all messages. The reason for this is people complained to me in Oneiric that the icon was being turned blue far too much. In fact, for some people (including me), the icon was blue pretty much permanently as long as Thunderbird was open, and this reduces the usefulness of the messaging indicator for notification of real-time messages to pretty much zero. In fact, people just got so fed up of it that they were asking me how to disable this feature in Thunderbird entirely. I did consider making Thunderbird never turn the icon blue, but made a compromise which turns the icon blue in the following circumstances: - The message is sent with high-priority OR - The message is flagged (by a filter) OR - The message is addressed directly to the recipient (eg, not CC) AND the message is not low prioirty AND the message wasn't automated AND the message is not from a mailing list Some real life examples of how this works: - If your boss sends you a message, it will turn blue - It will not turn blue for normal mailing list traffic - If someone replies to a message you sent to a mailing list, it will turn blue - If Amazon sends you a marketing message which isn't marked as spam, it will not turn blue - It will not turn blue for bug mail traffic (unless you have set up filters to flag messages you are particularly interested in, eg, bugs with high importance or bugs you are assigned to) - If Facebook emails you with a friend request, it will not turn blue. It has been like this for pretty much the whole 12.04 cycle, and so far people have been much quieter about it (ok, it could be that they got so sick of the icon turning blue in Oneiric that they just disabled the feature entirely and are no longer using it). I think the current implementation works quite well though, and I'd prefer suggestions to improve it rather than just turning the icon blue for all messages. Remember, we also show a count on the launcher, which is displayed all the time by default in Precise. And, if you want the icon to turn blue for all messages, we have an about:config pref for that. But you'll soon realise how annoying that is if you get more than a dozen or so mails per hour. The current implementation is more like Gwibber, which keeps counts of messages in the messaging menu without turning it blue. IMO we should only really turn the icon blue if we think that the message is important enough to interrupt your current workflow. Most e-mail does not fall in to this category. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 957922] Re: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird
Slightly escalating importance since this is something which Mark has already (partially) approved. MPT, can you get the design spec updated on this so that we can proceed? ** Changed in: indicator-messages Importance: Wishlist => Low ** Also affects: indicator-messages (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: indicator-messages Status: New => Incomplete ** Tags added: needs-design -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/957922 Title: Indicator-Messages should turn blue when new emails land in Thunderbird To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/957922/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
