Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Danny Piccirillo
 wrote:
> Damn, ran into this too, but i don't have an old kernel to fall back on. Is
> there a way i can fix this without having to reinstall?
>

You could try disabling kernel modesetting:
While booting, enter the grub menu (hold the Shift key. If it fails
and the boot continues, restart and try pressing Shift several times
instead of simply holding it down).
Once in the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the boot line, then add to
the kernel line: nouveau.modeset=0. You may also remove "quiet splash"
to see what's going on in the boot process.
Press Ctrl+X.

Best regards,
Flávio

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Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Danny Piccirillo
Damn, ran into this too, but i don't have an old kernel to fall back on. Is
there a way i can fix this without having to reinstall?

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 13:10, Scott Beamer wrote:

> Scott James Remnant spake thusly:
>
> >> You sure this isn't a Kernel-related issue?
> >>
> > If SysRq doesn't reset the screen, that strongly implies this is a
> > kernel issue.
>
> It didn't.
>
> Scott
>
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Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-15 Thread Scott Beamer
Evan spake thusly:

> I don't mean to be a "[citation needed] troll", but I've honestly never
> heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how
> RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as
> you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything else; the
> software having problems in this thread is some sort of anomaly.

They just "work".

For example, in Fedora...

if you install a 32-bit RPM via YUM (see APT in Debuntu) as you would 
with a 64-bit RPM, YUM will pull all the edependancies in and install 
them as well.

Debian's ia32libs doesn't install ALL needed 32-bit libs for a number of 
packages if installed in the past.

My best suggetion to you would be to spend some time with the competition 
and see for yourself. :)

P.S.

PLEASE don't post in HTML to the lists.

Thanks.

Scott


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Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Scott Beamer
Scott James Remnant spake thusly:

>> You sure this isn't a Kernel-related issue?
>> 
> If SysRq doesn't reset the screen, that strongly implies this is a
> kernel issue.

It didn't.

Scott



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Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-15 Thread Evan
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Scott Beamer
wrote:

> Thomas Tempelmann spake thusly:
>
> >... I've created a 32 bit application that uses Gtk 2, which
> > launches fine on the 32 Bit Ubuntu 9.10 default installation.
> >
> > But when I launch the same app on the 64 bit Ubuntu version, the
> > following things happen..
>
> [...]
>
> The problem is that Debian (and therfore Ubuntu) is still in the 20th
> century when it comes to easily installing and running 32-bit software
> beside 64-bit software.
>
> Outiside of sticking with OS X (or Windows for that matter) your other
> alterntiave is to go with the more advanced RPM-based distributions where
> you can routinely install 32-bit packages on a 64-bit OS (examples of
> such operating systems include Fedora, openSUSE and Mandriva).
>
> *Someday* Debian (and therefore Ubuntu) will catch up
>

I don't mean to be a "[citation needed] troll", but I've honestly never
heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs
handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as you
installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything else; the
software having problems in this thread is some sort of anomaly.

Cheers,
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cman does not start ... corosync died -- some more detail

2010-03-15 Thread Christian Brandes
Hi all!

cman still does not start. Here ist a little more information. I hope someone 
can help me.

Versions:
Ubuntu 10.04 Alpha-3
redhat-cluster-suite 3.0.2-2ubuntu2
cman 3.0.2-2ubuntu2
corosync 1.2.0-0ubuntu1

/etc/init.d/cman start
Starting cluster:
   Global setup... [ OK ]
   Loading kernel modules... [ OK ]
   Mounting configfs... [ OK ]
   Setting network parameters... [ OK ]
   Starting cman... corosync died: Could not read cluster configuration

I generated /etc/cluster/cluster.conf with system-config-cluster:





















/etc/corosync/corosync.conf:
totem {
version: 2
token: 3000
token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
join: 60
consensus: 4800
vsftype: none
max_messages: 20
clear_node_high_bit: yes
   secauth: off
threads: 0
   rrp_mode: none
interface {
ringnumber: 0
bindnetaddr: 192.168.24.221
mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1
mcastport: 5405
}
}

amf {
mode: disabled
}

service {
ver: 0
name: pacemaker
}

aisexec {
user: root
group: root
}

logging {
fileline: off
to_stderr: yes
to_logfile: no
to_syslog: yes
syslog_facility: daemon
debug: off
timestamp: on
logger_subsys {
subsys: AMF
debug: off
tags: enter|leave|trace1|trace2|trace3|trace4|trace6
}
}

/var/log/syslog:
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Unloading all Corosync service 
engines.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
extended virtual synchrony service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
configuration service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
cluster closed process group service v1.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
cluster config database access v1.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
profile loading service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: openais 
checkpoint service B.01.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [SERV ] Service engine unloaded: corosync 
cluster quorum service v0.1
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[3904]: [MAIN ] Corosync Cluster Engine exiting 
with status -1 at main.c:158.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [MAIN ] Corosync Cluster Engine ('1.2.0'): 
started and ready to provide service.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [MAIN ] Corosync built-in features: nss
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [MAIN ] Successfully read main 
configuration file '/etc/corosync/corosync.conf'.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [TOTEM ] Initializing transport (UDP/IP).
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [TOTEM ] Initializing transmit/receive 
security: libtomcrypt SOBER128/SHA1HMAC (mode 0).
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [MAIN ] Compatibility mode set to 
whitetank. Using V1 and V2 of the synchronization engine.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [TOTEM ] The network interface 
[192.168.24.221] is now up.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service failed to load 'pacemaker'.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: openais 
checkpoint service B.01.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
extended virtual synchrony service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
configuration service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
cluster closed process group service v1.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
cluster config database access v1.01
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
profile loading service
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [SERV ] Service engine loaded: corosync 
cluster quorum service v0.1
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [TOTEM ] A processor joined or left the 
membership and a new membership was formed.
Mar 15 11:52:14 ubu1 corosync[4043]: [MAIN ] Completed service synchronization, 
ready to provide service.
Mar 15 11:52:32 ubu1 corosync[4077]: [MAIN ] Corosync Cluster Engine ('1.2.0'): 
started and ready to provide service.
Mar 15 11:52:32 ubu1 corosync[4077]: [MAIN ] Corosync built-in features: nss
Mar 15 11:52:32 ubu1 corosync[4077]: [MAIN ] Successfully read config from 
/etc/cluster/cluster.conf
Mar 15 11:52:32 ubu1 corosync[4077]: [MAIN ] Successfully parsed cman config
Mar 15 11:52:32 ubu1 corosync[4077]: [MAIN ] Successfully configured openais 
services to loa

Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 07:46 +, Scott wrote:

> Christopher James Halse Rogers spake thusly:
> 
> > On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 05:09 +, Scott Beamer wrote:
> >> Just downloaded the latest nightly live CD and installed.
> >> 
> >> After reboot computer freezes at splash screen.
> > 
> > This might be plymouth; see if hitting SysRq+Alt+k kills the splash
> > screen and brings up X.
> 
> I'm back on the laptop now (previous reply was from my desktop) and I 
> tried your suggestion here.
> 
> Nothing happened.  I had to ctrl+alt+delete and restart.
> 
> So it's VERY broken if one is installing from the today's (yesterday's) 
> daily live CD
> 
> You sure this isn't a Kernel-related issue?
> 
If SysRq doesn't reset the screen, that strongly implies this is a
kernel issue.

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Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Scott
Christopher James Halse Rogers spake thusly:

> On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 05:09 +, Scott Beamer wrote:
>> Just downloaded the latest nightly live CD and installed.
>> 
>> After reboot computer freezes at splash screen.
> 
> This might be plymouth; see if hitting SysRq+Alt+k kills the splash
> screen and brings up X.

I'm back on the laptop now (previous reply was from my desktop) and I 
tried your suggestion here.

Nothing happened.  I had to ctrl+alt+delete and restart.

So it's VERY broken if one is installing from the today's (yesterday's) 
daily live CD

You sure this isn't a Kernel-related issue?


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Re: Lots of Kernel related brakage in Lucid (amd64)

2010-03-15 Thread Scott Beamer
Christopher James Halse Rogers spake thusly:

> On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 05:09 +, Scott Beamer wrote:
>> Just downloaded the latest nightly live CD and installed.
>> 
>> After reboot computer freezes at splash screen.
> 
> This might be plymouth; see if hitting SysRq+Alt+k kills the splash
> screen and brings up X.

You can kill the splash screen now? REALLY?!?!?! :D

>> 
>> Hardware:
>> 
>> ASUS Laptop
>> Intel Core i5-430M CPU
>> 4GB of DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
>> 500GB Hard Drive
>> NVidia GT325M Graphics Engine with 1GB DDR3 Dedicated VRAM (also Intel
>> Onboard GMA and sound).
> 
> Ah!  Someone's got some switchable graphics.

Brand spanking-new NVIDIA "Optimus Technology. FTW.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html

Naturally, no Linux support out of the box

> That's not going to be as
> well-tested as other setups, so you might run into problems others
> aren't seeing.

I hear it (NVIDIA Optimus) is supported under the Kernel that will be 
part of Fedora 13

> 
> If you feel like some additional testing, the NouveauEvaluation wiki
> page[1] has instructions for testing more recent upstream versions of
> Nouveau.  There's at least one commit in there relevant to switchable
> graphics.


Unless Nouveau has improved since what's offered now in Fedora 12 then 
I'm not interested. I'll be using the propriatory NVIDA drivers.


> 
> Regardless of whether you test the newer nouveau, it would be useful if
> you could file a bug on launchpad.  “ubuntu-bug xorg” will attach a
> bunch of useful information.

The 2nd biggest issue I rasied in this thread was the linux-headers 
package hanging when updating.

Meanwile do you think my bootspash hang is related to X or is it a kernel 
issue?





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