Re: [ubuntu-in] ubuntu-in Digest, Vol 32, Issue 29

2008-10-19 Thread Mani A
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:30 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Onkar Shinde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] PCIe Graphics Card for ubuntu
>
> Get graphics card based on ATI chipset. If you are looking for cheap
> ones you will probably get those only second hand on Ebay. You could
> buy any one from 9xxx series. I am not sure though if they are PCIe
> cards.

No those are not the PCIE ones. ebay has all kinds of irrational
prices. You can find new and cheap 64MB ATI PCI-cards in some shops.
SVB manufactures the old "recommended for servers"  Rage 8MB card
>
> If you are ready to shell some more money get ones from 16xx or 19xx
> HD series. They have support for HD resolutions and have drivers in
> Ubuntu which give at least good 2D support.

Radeon HD1550 is supposed to be work well on 'radeon' too. 3D is
possible in this range, but see below. Radeon 2400 is also good

> In case you have found some fortune anywhere and want to use it to buy
> graphics card then buy the latest from Radepn HD series like 3xxx or
> 4xxx. But please keep in mind that only buy the ones that come with a

Radeon 3450 (512MB) and a newer 4xxx card cost <3k, but most others will be >8k

> separate powerful cooling fan. Also check what is the power supply
> required by them and if your SMPS can support it.

A problem with Ubuntu is that the X-... is too old and all these will
work far better on distros like Fedora9 and above on Open source
drivers. Most of these cards have on-board RAM from 128MB to 1GB.
Prices depend on that too.

Best

A. Mani




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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops

2008-10-19 Thread Aditya M
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:34, Ramnarayan. K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok back to my theory which is that the current crop of laptops from
> most of the companies seem to have a lifespan of just a few years -
> seemingly till a few months after warranty (about 3 years) and this is
> because companies are not focusing on longevity of their machines
> because they want people to buy their latest machines.


Yes, this is not only in laptop manufacturing industry, but applies to
almost every manufacturing industry because it makes a lot of business
sense. It encourages consumerism, which is unnecessarily expensive and
extremely wasteful.
It's going to cost us in other ways soon: http://www.storyofstuff.com/


Upgrade only when you need and not because you can!


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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops

2008-10-19 Thread Prateek Sharma
Obviously,
Even 5 years back laptops were rare, and costly. The drastic cutting
down of the price naturally explains the shoddy quality of the
hardware of most laptops.
Doesnt matter which brand you get, they are all exactly the same these days.

PS: Im typing this from a 2 year old acer laptop with a MTBC (Mean
Time between crash) of 10 minutes because of bad RAM. I cant open the
case because the power-cord broke after a year and i have fixed it to
the laptop and cant move the laptop an inch now.



On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Ramnarayan. K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> This is a kind of OT post - following some of the discussion on a
> suitable laptop that some people were searching for.
>
> I too have been searching for a good laptop for some friends (one that
> works well with Linux and is decently new technology to last a few
> years).
>
> The laptop i am using is a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600. Its a Pentium
> III with 376 MB Ram with a 20 GB HD - triple booting Ubuntu 7.04 and
> Windows XP (and 2000).
>
> On this laptop everything works - its about 8-9 years old. What does
> not work is the battery - which maintains charge for about 2 minutes.
>
> But hardware wise everything works - as does all the software i need -
> its a bit slow and the RAM is always fully used.
>
> At the same time i also have a Lenovo Thinkpad t 60 - dual core , 1.5
> GB RAM, 80 GB HD etc etc. That too is running Ubuntu 7.04 and dual
> booting windows. This has an ATI X1300 graphics card and has just been
> under some warranty repairs of keyboard and touch pad and lcd screen
> replacement. On this everything works except the compfix 3 d effects -
> i tried installing the restricted drivers but this advanced laptop
> refuses to budgeand its a pain trying to get graphics to work well,
> invariably there is some problem with
>
> At the same time a celeron desktop and a celeron gateway laptop both
> run compfiz cube and wobbly windows beautifully.
>
> Ok back to my theory which is that the current crop of laptops from
> most of the companies seem to have a lifespan of just a few years -
> seemingly till a few months after warranty (about 3 years) and this is
> because companies are not focusing on longevity of their machines
> because they want people to buy their latest machines. At the same
> time lots of us try and get the latest and the bestest (which we can
> afford) precisely to avoid having to replace early, in fact trying to
> be future ready .
>
> So what do you folk think.
>
> The next part is not so much theory as much as an attempted solution -
> i.e to invest in a top of the line laptop but a cheaper low end
> current model and plan for replacement in about 2 - 3 years. And
> invest in peripherals / accessories that do some of the jobs we might
> expect a high end laptop to do (like a wacom tablet instead of a
> tablet laptop)
>
> looking forward to what you folks think
>
> ram
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