Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
Hi Aditya and Ram It's going to cost us in other ways soon: http://www.storyofstuff.com/ Never thanked you properly for this video Made my whole month - just wow Great that this site is being seen by many more. The person behind the site is Annie Leonard, a former Greenpeace campaigner and later who worked with Ralph Nader and a dedicated campaigner to prevent incineration of any kind of waste. I have used almost exclusively old laptops all my life, since 1994. And run almost all of them on solar photovoltaic energy or wind energy, and Toshiba's have proven to be the best amongst HP/Compaq, Dell and Toshiba. Never had an IBM/Lenovo though. No idea about that. Regards Moz -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 18:08, Moz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used almost exclusively old laptops all my life, since 1994. And run almost all of them on solar photovoltaic energy or wind energy, and Toshiba's have proven to be the best amongst HP/Compaq, Dell and Toshiba. What do you mean it runs on solar or wind energy? How do you do it? It has to run on an electricity source, but how do you have control on the type? So can you give me links to some Toshiba laptops that are environment friendly? I can keep it in mind to tell friends and for future purchases. -- Aditya Manthramurthy -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
I think what he meant that the batteries get charged using thoses sources of energy On 11/14/08, Aditya M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 18:08, Moz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used almost exclusively old laptops all my life, since 1994. And run almost all of them on solar photovoltaic energy or wind energy, and Toshiba's have proven to be the best amongst HP/Compaq, Dell and Toshiba. What do you mean it runs on solar or wind energy? How do you do it? It has to run on an electricity source, but how do you have control on the type? So can you give me links to some Toshiba laptops that are environment friendly? I can keep it in mind to tell friends and for future purchases. -- Aditya Manthramurthy -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
Yes, Fabian is right. I think what he meant that the batteries get charged using thoses sources of energy I make windmills and do photovoltaic installations. My home and office runs off solar energy for the past 8 years. Any further of this talk needs to be off this list because it is not pertaining to Ubuntu. Moz -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Moz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I make windmills and do photovoltaic installations. My home and office runs off solar energy for the past 8 years. Any further of this talk needs to be off this list because it is not pertaining to Ubuntu. well how about an Ubuntu powered / designed windmill ;-) ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
Hi Aditya, On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Aditya M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is not only in laptop manufacturing industry, but applies to almost every manufacturing industry because it makes a lot of business sense. It encourages consumerism, which is unnecessarily expensive and extremely wasteful. It's going to cost us in other ways soon: http://www.storyofstuff.com/ Never thanked you properly for this video Made my whole month - just wow thanks ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
Hi This is a kind of OT post - following some of the discussion on a suitable laptop that some people were searching for. I too have been searching for a good laptop for some friends (one that works well with Linux and is decently new technology to last a few years). The laptop i am using is a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600. Its a Pentium III with 376 MB Ram with a 20 GB HD - triple booting Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows XP (and 2000). On this laptop everything works - its about 8-9 years old. What does not work is the battery - which maintains charge for about 2 minutes. But hardware wise everything works - as does all the software i need - its a bit slow and the RAM is always fully used. At the same time i also have a Lenovo Thinkpad t 60 - dual core , 1.5 GB RAM, 80 GB HD etc etc. That too is running Ubuntu 7.04 and dual booting windows. This has an ATI X1300 graphics card and has just been under some warranty repairs of keyboard and touch pad and lcd screen replacement. On this everything works except the compfix 3 d effects - i tried installing the restricted drivers but this advanced laptop refuses to budgeand its a pain trying to get graphics to work well, invariably there is some problem with At the same time a celeron desktop and a celeron gateway laptop both run compfiz cube and wobbly windows beautifully. Ok back to my theory which is that the current crop of laptops from most of the companies seem to have a lifespan of just a few years - seemingly till a few months after warranty (about 3 years) and this is because companies are not focusing on longevity of their machines because they want people to buy their latest machines. At the same time lots of us try and get the latest and the bestest (which we can afford) precisely to avoid having to replace early, in fact trying to be future ready . So what do you folk think. The next part is not so much theory as much as an attempted solution - i.e to invest in a top of the line laptop but a cheaper low end current model and plan for replacement in about 2 - 3 years. And invest in peripherals / accessories that do some of the jobs we might expect a high end laptop to do (like a wacom tablet instead of a tablet laptop) looking forward to what you folks think ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] OT : Theory regarding newer laptops
Obviously, Even 5 years back laptops were rare, and costly. The drastic cutting down of the price naturally explains the shoddy quality of the hardware of most laptops. Doesnt matter which brand you get, they are all exactly the same these days. PS: Im typing this from a 2 year old acer laptop with a MTBC (Mean Time between crash) of 10 minutes because of bad RAM. I cant open the case because the power-cord broke after a year and i have fixed it to the laptop and cant move the laptop an inch now. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Ramnarayan. K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi This is a kind of OT post - following some of the discussion on a suitable laptop that some people were searching for. I too have been searching for a good laptop for some friends (one that works well with Linux and is decently new technology to last a few years). The laptop i am using is a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600. Its a Pentium III with 376 MB Ram with a 20 GB HD - triple booting Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows XP (and 2000). On this laptop everything works - its about 8-9 years old. What does not work is the battery - which maintains charge for about 2 minutes. But hardware wise everything works - as does all the software i need - its a bit slow and the RAM is always fully used. At the same time i also have a Lenovo Thinkpad t 60 - dual core , 1.5 GB RAM, 80 GB HD etc etc. That too is running Ubuntu 7.04 and dual booting windows. This has an ATI X1300 graphics card and has just been under some warranty repairs of keyboard and touch pad and lcd screen replacement. On this everything works except the compfix 3 d effects - i tried installing the restricted drivers but this advanced laptop refuses to budgeand its a pain trying to get graphics to work well, invariably there is some problem with At the same time a celeron desktop and a celeron gateway laptop both run compfiz cube and wobbly windows beautifully. Ok back to my theory which is that the current crop of laptops from most of the companies seem to have a lifespan of just a few years - seemingly till a few months after warranty (about 3 years) and this is because companies are not focusing on longevity of their machines because they want people to buy their latest machines. At the same time lots of us try and get the latest and the bestest (which we can afford) precisely to avoid having to replace early, in fact trying to be future ready . So what do you folk think. The next part is not so much theory as much as an attempted solution - i.e to invest in a top of the line laptop but a cheaper low end current model and plan for replacement in about 2 - 3 years. And invest in peripherals / accessories that do some of the jobs we might expect a high end laptop to do (like a wacom tablet instead of a tablet laptop) looking forward to what you folks think ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
