Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-13 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi Friends,

Thanks for the many replies on Ubuntu 10.04 , they were mostly lucid ;-)

Seems like its been a good ride so far, no major issues, which is really good.

Am guessing as soon as i can get hold of a copy.

Which brings me to the second question (below)

My 9.10 occupies about 12 Gig of space (and lots is available)

/dev/sda7  22G   12G  8.3G  59% /

I know from experience from 9.10 that is overloaded with multiple
programmes for everything. (since i installed the Ultimate Version)
the good thing was everything worked out of the box (specially media
codecs). The disadvantage obviously too many things meaning a lot more
updates.

Am not convinced that the default Ubuntu available for download is a
good option - it requires too much tweaking and setting up to many
things - esp if one has to do it in more that 1 machine. ( i will end
up upgrading Ubuntu on 6 machines all in different physical locations
none of who have any decent internet) So the requirement is clear -
find a distro that is basically packed full of stuff and then do the
needful systematically on the individual machines.

Jobs included in the individual machines are
1. Localizing fonts (copy fonts to a /home/foouser/.fonts directory
2. Setting up local language keyboard and multiple language options
3. Setting up 2 or 3 different internet access methods (making sure
they work - like the Network Manager in 9.10 works for some and does
not for others) some of which need a wvdial.conf script
4. Setting up Google earth / skype ??
6. Setting up offline dictionaries (and artha)
7. Installing programmes that Ubuntu has dropped (gimp, gthumb,
scribus etc) and many others that never ever come by default (marble,
nut-nutrition,
 and some more that i cannot remember right now
8. Setting up virtual box
9. There are a whole lot of system tweaks - setting up autoback up in
openoffice (for example) eyc

I guess you get the picture , so each machine takes a fair bit of time
and since this is voluntary work (i enjoy seeing the latest and the
bestest running and then see people get happy to have a new version to
enjoy) but it is still a pain in the your know where, jst sitting
around waiting for each machine to.

Am thinking this time i will just do a system upgrade and then check
for broken packages and then redo those. So am waiting to get my hands
on the latest full 7-8 DVD repos. (see question below)

and since its LTS i guess it will be stable for some time.

 Second Question

 are there folks selling 10.04 DVD's and the repository If so who has them

 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of 
 corrections

***

So again look forward to your thoughts and of course where i could get
the dvd repos.

regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-13 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friends,

I think, you should have started a new thread...



 Thanks for the many replies on Ubuntu 10.04 , they were mostly lucid ;-)

 Seems like its been a good ride so far, no major issues, which is really good.

 Am guessing as soon as i can get hold of a copy.

 Which brings me to the second question (below)

 My 9.10 occupies about 12 Gig of space (and lots is available)

 /dev/sda7              22G   12G  8.3G  59% /

 I know from experience from 9.10 that is overloaded with multiple
 programmes for everything. (since i installed the Ultimate Version)
 the good thing was everything worked out of the box (specially media
 codecs). The disadvantage obviously too many things meaning a lot more
 updates.

 Am not convinced that the default Ubuntu available for download is a
 good option - it requires too much tweaking and setting up to many
 things - esp if one has to do it in more that 1 machine. ( i will end
 up upgrading Ubuntu on 6 machines all in different physical locations
 none of who have any decent internet) So the requirement is clear -
 find a distro that is basically packed full of stuff and then do the
 needful systematically on the individual machines.

I have a suggestion, instead of installing Ubuntu Ultimate, just
install a live Ubuntu and do all the tweaking, installing stuff, and
so on...
Once you are done, install an app called remastersys and create a
remaster CD, which basically creates your system clone, there are some
more options too...

If you install on other systems, there you go... a Ultimate Ubutnu
without unnecessary packages


 Jobs included in the individual machines are
 1. Localizing fonts (copy fonts to a /home/foouser/.fonts directory
 2. Setting up local language keyboard and multiple language options
 3. Setting up 2 or 3 different internet access methods (making sure
 they work - like the Network Manager in 9.10 works for some and does
 not for others) some of which need a wvdial.conf script
 4. Setting up Google earth / skype ??
 6. Setting up offline dictionaries (and artha)
 7. Installing programmes that Ubuntu has dropped (gimp, gthumb,
 scribus etc) and many others that never ever come by default (marble,
 nut-nutrition,
  and some more that i cannot remember right now
 8. Setting up virtual box
 9. There are a whole lot of system tweaks - setting up autoback up in
 openoffice (for example) eyc

You can create a python script to do all the following, I think you
can spend less time to code than install...
If you find hard to program you can ask some one in community for
help, may be I could accept too... :P


 I guess you get the picture , so each machine takes a fair bit of time
 and since this is voluntary work (i enjoy seeing the latest and the
 bestest running and then see people get happy to have a new version to
 enjoy) but it is still a pain in the your know where, jst sitting
 around waiting for each machine to.

 Am thinking this time i will just do a system upgrade and then check
 for broken packages and then redo those. So am waiting to get my hands
 on the latest full 7-8 DVD repos. (see question below)

 and since its LTS i guess it will be stable for some time.

 Second Question

 are there folks selling 10.04 DVD's and the repository If so who has them

 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of 
 corrections

Depends, if you are a normal user, just proceed...
If you are a power user, you can wait... I guess you know answer yourself...


 ***

 So again look forward to your thoughts and of course where i could get
 the dvd repos.

 regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-13 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 So again look forward to your thoughts and of course where i could get
 the dvd repos.

copied from google buzz
Shrinivasan T - Going GNU - Public - Muted
ubuntu 10.04 repository DVD iso’s are available
ISO images for Ubuntu 10.04 repository DVDs are available at
http://ubunturepo.hnsdc.com/ 8 DVD ISO files are there with a total
size of around 30GB. torrent also available. This DVD images will
be...

ISO images for Ubuntu 10.04 repository DVDs are available at
http://ubunturepo.hnsdc.com/

8 DVD ISO files are there with a total size of around 30GB.
torrent also available.

This DVD images will be so useful where there is no Internet collection.

We used to have these kind of DVDs with us to install ubuntu anywhere
as the remote cities like kanchipuram,
where broadband was a dream for most of the people.

Using these 8 DVDs we can get all the ubuntu pacakges.

Thanks for the team who is working on brining these DVD ISO’s.

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so thats where they were hiding

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-13 Thread Ramnarayan.K
 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 So again look forward to your thoughts and of course where i could get
 the dvd repos.

 copied from google buzz
 ISO images for Ubuntu 10.04 repository DVDs are available at
 http://ubunturepo.hnsdc.com/

***

 so thats where they were hiding


problem being is there someone downloading them and passing them on,
or even selling them for a small premiium, i am a potential buyer,

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-13 Thread Ripunjay Bararia
On 13-05-2010 18:52, Ramnarayan.K wrote:
 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ramnarayan.Kramnaraya...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
 So again look forward to your thoughts and of course where i could get
 the dvd repos.

 copied from google buzz
 ISO images for Ubuntu 10.04 repository DVDs are available at
 http://ubunturepo.hnsdc.com/
  
 ***

 so thats where they were hiding

  
 problem being is there someone downloading them and passing them on,
 or even selling them for a small premiium, i am a potential buyer,

 ram


Hi all,
All users are most welcome to download the disks from our office 
directly we are located at

Honesty Net Solutions (I) Pvt Ltd
A-2009 Station Plaza
Station Road
Bhandup West
Mumbai India.

Drop us a mail and we can arrange for the connectivity at the office.

regards
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-12 Thread ANKUR AGGARWAL
Today i checked the update manager and its showing me updates worth of
198 MB.. I think its that start of updates for 10.04

On 5/12/10, NARENDRA DIWATE narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
 install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No updates
 till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years and
 ubuntu for almost 4.

No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!

 Just reloaded the packages and see 61mb of updates ready. I had actually
 changed the frequency in update manager to weekly. Thats probably why no
 updates were shown.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-12 Thread Jkhatri

On Wednesday 12 May 2010 12:11 PM, ANKUR AGGARWAL wrote:

Today i checked the update manager and its showing me updates worth of
198 MB.. I think its that start of updates for 10.04

   

Hi ankur

I've one question in my mind . did you check updates manually or you 
got the update notification in panel


I'm asking you 'cause I'm getting updates at the next day of the 
installation of Lucid ( BTW I've checked for update manually through 
system-- Administration--- update manager )



correct me if I'm wrong ( I'm new to ubuntu only  not to Linux )

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-12 Thread ANKUR AGGARWAL
i checked it manually I dunt think checking it automaticaaly or manually
makes a difference in receiving update...
It depends on your repositories sources settings from which you are
extracting the updates
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Jkhatri khatri.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wednesday 12 May 2010 12:11 PM, ANKUR AGGARWAL wrote:

 Today i checked the update manager and its showing me updates worth of
 198 MB.. I think its that start of updates for 10.04



  Hi ankur

 I've one question in my mind . did you check updates manually or you
 got the update notification in panel

 I'm asking you 'cause I'm getting updates at the next day of the
 installation of Lucid ( BTW I've checked for update manually through
 system-- Administration--- update manager )


 correct me if I'm wrong ( I'm new to ubuntu only  not to Linux )

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Nandan Vaidya



 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of
 corrections

 **



Hi !

Even if you wait for a month and download the CD then, it will be the same
installation image as the one that was released on 29th April. The original
CDs are never respun to apply upgrades.

Whatever goes through the SRU[1] queue till the time you install it, will be
provided as an update via the update-manager along with any security fixes
that come through.
So either way, you will have to download and install the updates
post-installation as and when they arrive irrespective of whether you
install right away or wait a while.

Regards,
Nandan

P.S. Since 10.04 is an LTS expect 10.04.1 point release sometime in
June/July. This WILL be a respun image including all the updates provided
until that time. So if you wish you could wait till then

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nandan Vaidya vaidya.nan...@gmail.comwrote:



 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04
 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of
 corrections

 **



 Hi !

 Even if you wait for a month and download the CD then, it will be the same
 installation image as the one that was released on 29th April. The original
 CDs are never respun to apply upgrades.

 Whatever goes through the SRU[1] queue till the time you install it, will
 be provided as an update via the update-manager along with any security
 fixes that come through.
 So either way, you will have to download and install the updates
 post-installation as and when they arrive irrespective of whether you
 install right away or wait a while.

There is a big difference though...

If he installs today (With updates) -- More vulnerable and more bugs
If he installs after sometime (With updates) -- Less vulnerable and less
bugs

I hope you got the point...



 Regards,
 Nandan

 P.S. Since 10.04 is an LTS expect 10.04.1 point release sometime in
 June/July. This WILL be a respun image including all the updates provided
 until that time. So if you wish you could wait till then

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread NARENDRA DIWATE
Hi

I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No updates
till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years and
ubuntu for almost 4.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Easwar Hariharan
Using it on the laptop since Beta2. Beautiful boot time. Minor things which
make the experience very pleasurable. Only had to hack to get PAM to use the
fingerprint reader.

On the desktop, everything out of the box, quite like past two releases.
Strange thing is that I installed the ubuntustudio themes, fonts, walls, etc
in Karmic, and audio editor audacity, and Pitivi video editor comes default
with 10.04. GIMP was retained. Due to this(I think), 10.04 thinks itself to
be Ubuntu Studio on the desktop, and shows corresponding splash during boot
and shutdown. :? :)

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
 I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
 install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No updates
 till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years and
 ubuntu for almost 4.

No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
 I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
 install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No updates
 till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years and
 ubuntu for almost 4.

 No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!

That is because most of the updates are waiting in -proposed queue
(mostly gnome modules/apps). Also considering that UDS is going on I
bet most core developers, SRU approvers and archive admins are busy.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.netwrote:

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
  I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
  install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No
 updates
  till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years
 and
  ubuntu for almost 4.

 No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!


Is Ubuntu dev dying out or 10.04 is very stable???
It am very sure second option is very much impossible(safe comment after
using over years I guess)

It has been 13 days since release, how can there be no updates? I am pretty
much surprised!!!





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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Saikiran Madugula
On 11/05/10 15:38, Onkar Shinde wrote:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net 
 wrote:
 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
 I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
 install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No updates
 till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years and
 ubuntu for almost 4.

 No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!
 
 That is because most of the updates are waiting in -proposed queue
 (mostly gnome modules/apps). Also considering that UDS is going on I
 bet most core developers, SRU approvers and archive admins are busy.
 

I received many updates on 10.04 since the release. Is this what OP was
referring to ?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread $reeHari
I upgraded to 10.04 from karmic a few days ago . As of now , I haven't
experienced anything special . Everything's as it was (at least most ) .
Then , there maybe some new features , like the  MeMenu  , which i don't
use ;) and the Ubuntu One is working fine now. I think the boot time is
slightly improved (not sure ) . Overall , I don't think it is any necessary
to upgrade to 10.04 unless u are curious or want to try out the latest stuff
. Also , the upgrade may fail , in case you may 've to do a lot of work .

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Saikiran Madugula hummerbl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/05/10 15:38, Onkar Shinde wrote:
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net
 wrote:
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
  I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a fresh
  install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No
 updates
  till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years
 and
  ubuntu for almost 4.
 
  No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!
 
  That is because most of the updates are waiting in -proposed queue
  (mostly gnome modules/apps). Also considering that UDS is going on I
  bet most core developers, SRU approvers and archive admins are busy.
 

 I received many updates on 10.04 since the release. Is this what OP was
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:26 PM, $reeHari theneoind...@gmail.com wrote:

 I upgraded to 10.04 from karmic a few days ago . As of now , I haven't
 experienced anything special . Everything's as it was (at least most ) .
 Then , there maybe some new features , like the  MeMenu  , which i don't
 use ;) and the Ubuntu One is working fine now. I think the boot time is
 slightly improved (not sure ) . Overall , I don't think it is any necessary
 to upgrade to 10.04 unless u are curious or want to try out the latest stuff
 . Also , the upgrade may fail , in case you may 've to do a lot of work .


What else can you expect? latest stable Kernel, latest Gnome version, few
look and feel changes and all latest version of applications.

This is the main reason I started to dislike Rolling release, which is much
better than Fixed release. As I cannot think of any valid reason in which
Fixed release is better...
Can anyone justify??? I would love to hear your views...



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Saikiran Madugula 
 hummerbl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/05/10 15:38, Onkar Shinde wrote:
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Nitesh Mistry 
 mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote:
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 03:56:29PM +0530, NARENDRA DIWATE wrote:
  I too have been using it since the first week of launch. It was a
 fresh
  install. Everything worked out of the box. No headaches at all. No
 updates
  till date. Basically very happy. I am using linux for the past 5 years
 and
  ubuntu for almost 4.
 
  No updates till date!!! Thats surprising!
 
  That is because most of the updates are waiting in -proposed queue
  (mostly gnome modules/apps). Also considering that UDS is going on I
  bet most core developers, SRU approvers and archive admins are busy.
 

 I received many updates on 10.04 since the release. Is this what OP was
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Ninad Pundalik
On 11 May 2010 21:26, $reeHari theneoind...@gmail.com wrote:
 . Also , the upgrade may fail , in case you may 've to do a lot of work .


You might want to check my latest blogpost [0] in case you have a
broken upgrade.  It lists the manual procedure to do an upgrade, as
seen on the Ubuntu Wiki [1].  However, do remember, that this is a
risky method unless done exactly as per instructions, and must be used
as a last resort.  Skip the part where I set the proxy (1st step), if
you have direct internet access.

[0] - 
http://ninadpundalik.co.cc/blog/2010/05/upgrading-to-lucid-at-the-bits-network/
[1] - 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades#The%20Debian%20way%20of%20upgrading

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-11 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:19:59PM +0530, Ninad Pundalik wrote:
 You might want to check my latest blogpost [0] in case you have a
 broken upgrade.  It lists the manual procedure to do an upgrade, as
 seen on the Ubuntu Wiki [1].  However, do remember, that this is a
 risky method unless done exactly as per instructions, and must be used
 as a last resort.  Skip the part where I set the proxy (1st step), if
 you have direct internet access.
 
 [0] - 
 http://ninadpundalik.co.cc/blog/2010/05/upgrading-to-lucid-at-the-bits-network/
 [1] - 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades#The%20Debian%20way%20of%20upgrading
 
Very helpful tip. Please give back some love to Ubuntu. Would you be kind
enough to update the Ubuntu Help page as well.


Regards
Nitesh

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-10 Thread Raseel Bhagat
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 Have been out of the loop for some days (no net connection for some time
 and
 then traveling where there was no net)

 So whats the general opinion about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

 Heard that there are a tonne of updates already.

 Would love to hear what people using 10.04 feel

 Second Question

 are there folks selling 10.04 DVD's and the repository If so who has them

 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of
 corrections


I have started using Ubuntu 10.04 from the day it was released. In fact, I
was using it from the RC days.

The major difference I have seen so far in Ubuntu is :
- much better support for hardware Eg., my iPhone is detected much more
gracefully out of the box
- generally faster performance  : but I don't have any metric for this. I
just remember the startup times of app like FF and Thunderbird and
gnome-console from 9.10 and 9.04 days. And of course, the startup and
shutdowns are much faster too.

So basically, I would advise you to start using 10.04 asap. There are no
stability, reliability heads-up as such.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-10 Thread sivakumar bharadhwaj
Sir,

+ 1

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Two questions about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

2010-05-10 Thread ANKUR AGGARWAL
Boot time.. It boots really fast unlike previous releases... I like that
feature the most :):)

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 Have been out of the loop for some days (no net connection for some time
 and
 then traveling where there was no net)

 So whats the general opinion about 10.04 (Lucid Lynx)

 Heard that there are a tonne of updates already.

 Would love to hear what people using 10.04 feel

 Second Question

 are there folks selling 10.04 DVD's and the repository If so who has them

 and related to this - is it worth waiting a month before installing 10.04 -
 seems like there is always stuff that works better after a month of
 corrections

 **

 regards
 ram

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