Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Dell stops selling Ubuntu Laptops in the UK?
Alan Pope wrote: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/06/dell-dumps-ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600956 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3715630postcount=25 OK, I have just called my Dell account manager also. Here in the UK at least Dell have discontinued Laptops with pre-installed Linux. It is a marketing decision. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/segments/gen/client/en/ubuntu_landing?c=uk%20cs=ukdhs1l=ens=dhs Click Choose Ubuntu Notebook and I get a constantly refreshing page with no content. That page seems to be working now. John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?
Aaron Toponce wrote: alan c wrote: snip What I actually see is an erosion of the top place that ubuntu has in the distrowatch rankings. It is a number, and it is moving in the wrong direction. I also see some publicity, including hype, that encourages attention for and use of pclinuxos. When it goes up the rankings, there is a congratulations on the forum (when I looked at one time a while ago). The team is focussed on success, why not? One success would be 'Top of distrowatch'. For all I know every pclos user clicks on distrowatch twice each day! First off, Distrowatch rankings are only the number of page hits on Distrowatch's site, not the distro site. Again, these are just page hits, and should be taken very likely. No distro's success hangs on the page rankings of distrowatch. A true measurement of success is dependent on many variables, not just page hits. Again, I would take the rankings on Distrowatch very lightly. The success of Mint should be taken into account. It's currently at 5th place in the distrowatch 7-day rankings. Linux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution whose goal is to provide a more complete out-of-the-box experience by including browser plugins, media codecs, support for DVD playback, Java and other components. It is compatible with Ubuntu software repositories. The question then becomes one of how can we make K/Ubuntu more complete, 'out-of-the-box'. Regards John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Installation Splash Screen for Live CD
alan c wrote: Mike Feravolo wrote: Hello: I want to share with everyone a comment that I got from a few people when they wanted to try the Ubuntu Live-CD. When the Menu option Start ... Install Ubuntu appeared they immediately were scared off by the word install because they thought it would install and delete everything on there system. I agree entirely. It is scary and I have found it stops people even continuing! Please, this isn't the mailing list for such discussion, and really it should be reported as a bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu Thanks John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Tattoos
Just seen this: Firefox tattoos http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ which strikes me as a cool way to promote things. Any chance of Ubuntu tats? (Obviously, they're temporary tattoos. But for the next LTS release, we really should go for permanent ink, to prove our dedication.) John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu users stats
alan c wrote: In addition it would be useful if an ongoing note could be kept (anyone?) and commented upon for the number of ubuntu derived distros there are out there. The best news items often seem to be made out of figures! See this page (it's incomplete, but you can send more entries in): http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives HTH John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Bug 77311] Re: provide list of Ubuntu hardware vendors
Matthew East wrote: (It would also be worth going through all the ubuntu-installling vendors and making sure they are on the partners page of the website.) AFAIK that's not how the partners page works. Organisations need to apply for partnership status, Canonical doesn't chase organisations for it, that I know of. http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/become Sorry, I meant the marketplace: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/marketplace John -- provide list of Ubuntu hardware vendors https://launchpad.net/bugs/77311 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Bug 77311] Re: provide list of Ubuntu hardware vendors
Matthew East wrote: If the Ubuntu marketing team is able to maintain such a list and provide it to us, I'm sure we will be able to make appropriate provision on the website. I suggest you bring it up on their mailing list for further discussion. Until then, I'll close the bug here. ** Changed in: ubuntu-website (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected LXer have opened a database of vendors providing pre-installed linuxes: http://lxer.com/module/db/index.php?dbn=14 Quite a number provide Ubuntu; it should be possible to extract those entries and list them on the site. (It would also be worth going through all the ubuntu-installling vendors and making sure they are on the partners page of the website.) John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] New project proposal: Ubuntu Live
Martin Albisetti wrote: I wanted to propose a new project which I think might be interesting from a marketing perspective. I wrote up a wiki entry and a spec so I wouldn't litter the whole place with the same info. The main idea is having a webpage which shows in real time all the activity Ubuntu has. The final goal would be to have an API so users can add that to their webpages and reflect users the tremendous amount of work done every minute. A good example of success is the Firefox Download Counter. I'd love some feedback and help. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuLive Spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-live Nice idea, but could you rename it - to say Ubuntu Activity? Ubuntu-Live made me think it was something to do with the Ubuntu Live cd. John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Accounting/Bookkeeping software (was Re: Ubuntu software packages)
Stan Jordan wrote: I have just one concern with Ubuntu ( which I love...both the software and the philosophy) which is, if Ubuntu is to be used by micro/small/medium sized business, which I would suggest represents a huge number of people worldwide, why is there no bookkeeping/accounting software listed in the download repository. This is the absolutely essential tool of any business, and without it all of these thousands of businesses cannot change to Ubuntu as there is nothing in the Ubuntu repository they can use. Grisbi is on the list, but is only for personal finance. Open source accounting software, Debian based, is available. ( Quasar, being one example ) I see people trying to install this on Ubuntu and the problems they are experiencing from the Ubuntu/Quasar blog. I am at a complete loss to understand why this very large and important segment of the market that Ubuntu could easily exploit to promote the OS is being totally ignored. People like myself are forced to use Suse or Linspire to get this type of software as a simple download/install. Please have someone in your organisation explore this area of software which would lead to a huge increase in the number of Ubuntu devotees. I presume the reason that Quasar isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, is due to licensing. I can't find it in the Debian repos either. Accounting software is one of those black holes in the free software world, all the worse for being essential to many, and is additionally complicated by the need for localized variations, due to differences in tax regimes etc. As such, it's really something that Canonical/Ubuntu should take a leadership role in. Not sure this list is the place to discuss this; I'm cc'ing the developers list about this. And we should ask SABDFL what he uses ;) John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Community metrics - how OpenSolaris does it
Matthew Revell wrote: Each month, the OpenSolaris project's marketing guy (Patrick Finch) posts a page of stats. They show what's going on in the OpenSolaris world and how people come across OpenSolaris. Now, OpenSolaris has the advantage that Sun pays a number of people, including Patrick, to work either full time or part time on the project's marketing. However, I'm pretty certain we could get at least some of this data for Ubuntu. Question is: do we want it and, if so, how would we use it? 1: Most of this data seems eminently automatable, so it might not be that much work. 2: Yes, we (or at least I) want it. Aside from the sheer joy of stats, it gives an idea of how big ubuntu is, how it is growing. Geo-location stats should be very useful in working out where to devote resources. Also, just making stats available will be an incentive for someone to mash them up in new and interesting ways. John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Community metrics - how OpenSolaris does it
Matthew Revell wrote: Each month, the OpenSolaris project's marketing guy (Patrick Finch) posts a page of stats. They show what's going on in the OpenSolaris world and how people come across OpenSolaris. Now, OpenSolaris has the advantage that Sun pays a number of people, including Patrick, to work either full time or part time on the project's marketing. However, I'm pretty certain we could get at least some of this data for Ubuntu. Question is: do we want it and, if so, how would we use it? Do you have a link for that page? I just looked over opensolaris.org, but couldn't find it. TIA John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Listing Ubuntu Friendly Hardware Suppliers
David Symons wrote: Hi all, I mentioned an Australian LoCo Team initiative to list suppliers of Ubuntu Friendly laptops a while back[1]. The Belgian and UK teams have been doing something similar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OsLessLaptopShops https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyComputerShops And there's been a thread on lxer about similar things: http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23168/ My own contribution: http://technolalia.org/resources/uklinuxhardware.html HTH John Levin -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Listing Ubuntu Friendly Hardware Suppliers
David Symons wrote: On 8/4/06, *john levin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Belgian and UK teams have been doing something similar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OsLessLaptopShops https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OsLessLaptopShops https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyComputerShops PS. The 2nd link is actually another Australian Team one. You are forgiven ;-) . Duh. That's what happens when you check your email before drinking coffee. Correct link to UK team page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Hardware John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fridge icons
Matthew Revell wrote: The Fridge has a number of categories but only a few have icons. Any thoughts on what icons we can use for the categories? In fact, do we want icons? Projects -- Edubuntu -- Kubuntu -- Launchpad Rosetta Xubuntu can be added here. john -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Fridge question
Hi, Quick question about the Fridge: where should we send suggestions for content? I'm especially thinking about dates for the calendar, of which I have two: Sept 16th: Software Freedom Day Oct 25th-26th: Linux Expo London Regards John -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The Fridge needs you!
Matthew Revell wrote: Hello all, I've just joined the team of editors at The Fridge (fridge.ubuntu.com). Daniel Robitaille and Jorge O Castro have been asked to take The Fridge in hand and open it up to the community! Who could be better than the Ubuntu Marketing team? For now, it's business as usual. However, the future of The Fridge is in the community's hands. Reply to this thread if you're interested in getting involved! Also, it might be interesting to discuss what The Fridge's purpose should be and how it fits in with plans for Ubuntu Magazine. Look forward to hearing from you. Yes I'm interested in being involved in this, as I've said on the sounder list a number of times. First thing to do is open up the fridge mailing list - no one knows what has been discussed, proposed etc. I've just joined this list, having run the Ubuntu stand at Lug Radio Live 2006 (report coming v. soon). So intro: have done a little bit of everything (wiki cleaning, documentation, bug-reporting, stall-manning) save write code. Regards John Levin -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing