Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
Darktable is also a great app for professional photography. It's already packaged and available in Ubuntu repositories. It could form a separate Photo seed if combined with CinePaint (which is not packaged for Debian AFAIK). -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: wacom-tools in graphic seed (Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds)
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jpwrote: Dear developer, I checked graphic seed. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric/view/head:/graphics The wacom-tools is not released now. It's old stuff. Now xsetwacom script in xserver-xorg-input-wacom package is alternative. We can see the details in this page. https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=History So I suppose to drop wacom-tools from this seed. Regards Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel Done! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: ttf-mona in font-meta seed (Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds)
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jpwrote: Dear developer. The ttf-mona package is included in font-meta. But the source is discontinued and it's a lack of much Japanese glyphs. http://monafont.sourceforge.net/ Ubuntu Japanese Local Community release ttf-takao-pgothic package and it has whole unicode glyphs. I reccomend you to use this instead of ttf-mona. https://launchpad.net/takao-fonts Of cource, this change is related to the size of iso image. ttf-takao-pgothic is bigger than ttf-mona by 3 MB. ttf-mona Version: 2.90-6 Size: 2904kb Download: 1712kb http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ttf-mona ttf-takao-pgothic Version: 003.02.01-4ubuntu1 Size: 6345kB Download: 4296 kB http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ttf-takao-pgothic Regards Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel Done! -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
Audacity is so important for editing everything from video soundtracks to audio news reports I cannot see ever getting along without it! When you are NOT doing work that includes computer generated audio, just doing basic sound editing with effects (ruling out gnome sound recorder as a substitute) and timeline editing, audacity realy doesn't have much competition. Ardour is WAY to complex for someone doing say, radio news, and does not have the massive effects list that audacity has either. It is one thing to not include something in a default install, but would be far more serious if it ever disappeared from the repos, or worse, was rendered uninstallable when imported from another distro's repos or built from source. I have been using Audacity since 2004 and would not consider removing it from my machines under any circumstances. Since it is presumably staying in Ubuntu's repos, that means it is essential to make sure nothing is done that render audacity either impossible to install or impossible to use. In particular, if audacity won't work with Jack any more (1.3.7 worked fine with jack, for a while I saved it's binary under the name audacity-jack), then jack must never become something that auto respawns if killed, as that would make it impossible to run audacity. From: ubuntu-studio-devel-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Ubuntu-Studio-devel Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9 To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:00:54 + Send Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list submissions to ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-studio-devel-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-studio-devel-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Ubuntu-Studio-devel digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds (Gerhard Lang) 2. Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds (Ricardo Lameiro) 3. Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds (Mike Holstein) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:38:15 +0200 From: Gerhard Lang lang.gerh...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds Message-ID: 4e4af157.4070...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Audacitie's cooperation with with jack is disgraceful. But indeed, for it's capabilities I see no comparable linux alternative. So I vote for retaining Gerhard Am 16.08.2011 09:02, schrieb David Henningsson: On 08/15/2011 03:38 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com mailto:david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic http://launchpad.net/%7Ediwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.__ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-__studio-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Well, the last time this was up for debate, you asked me to write down a use case or workflow, and so I did, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows#Simple_recording_of_concert.2C_conversation_etc -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:15:58 +0100 From: Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com To: Ubuntu Studio Development Technical Discussion ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds Message-ID: cajhysga-9sptvfph2v5v0fqgkc93cyfsl1pnwycwaedcbmn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Audacity's jack problem comes from portaudio, to retain cross compatibility. It will only show a source or sink when active. Not optimal for standard jack use. But it is true, it is a very good editor No dia 16 de Ago de 2011 23:38, Gerhard Lang lang.gerh...@gmail.com escreveu: Audacitie's cooperation with with jack is disgraceful. But indeed, for it's capabilities I see no comparable linux alternative. So I vote for retaining Gerhard Am 16.08.2011 09:02, schrieb David Henningsson: On 08/15/2011 03:38 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com
wacom-tools in graphic seed (Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds)
Dear developer, I checked graphic seed. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric/view/head:/graphics The wacom-tools is not released now. It's old stuff. Now xsetwacom script in xserver-xorg-input-wacom package is alternative. We can see the details in this page. https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=History So I suppose to drop wacom-tools from this seed. Regards Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
ttf-mona in font-meta seed (Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds)
Dear developer. The ttf-mona package is included in font-meta. But the source is discontinued and it's a lack of much Japanese glyphs. http://monafont.sourceforge.net/ Ubuntu Japanese Local Community release ttf-takao-pgothic package and it has whole unicode glyphs. I reccomend you to use this instead of ttf-mona. https://launchpad.net/takao-fonts Of cource, this change is related to the size of iso image. ttf-takao-pgothic is bigger than ttf-mona by 3 MB. ttf-mona Version: 2.90-6 Size: 2904kb Download: 1712kb http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ttf-mona ttf-takao-pgothic Version: 003.02.01-4ubuntu1 Size: 6345kB Download: 4296 kB http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ttf-takao-pgothic Regards Takashi Sakamoto o-taka...@sakamocchi.jp -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
On 08/15/2011 03:38 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com mailto:david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic http://launchpad.net/%7Ediwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.__ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-__studio-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Well, the last time this was up for debate, you asked me to write down a use case or workflow, and so I did, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows#Simple_recording_of_concert.2C_conversation_etc -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
Audacitie's cooperation with with jack is disgraceful. But indeed, for it's capabilities I see no comparable linux alternative. So I vote for retaining Gerhard Am 16.08.2011 09:02, schrieb David Henningsson: On 08/15/2011 03:38 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com mailto:david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic http://launchpad.net/%7Ediwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.__ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-__studio-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Well, the last time this was up for debate, you asked me to write down a use case or workflow, and so I did, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows#Simple_recording_of_concert.2C_conversation_etc -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
for me, as big draw to audacity in the beginning was that it didnt need jack. for a long time, it was one of the only applications that did anything when i clicked on it. im sure proper documentation is the actual answer to what i am saying, and thats something i know is currently on our radar... im sure we can all agree audacity is a great audio editor for the new user, with features that keep seasoned users turning to it... the question is, does it need to be included by default in ubuntustudio? On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.comwrote: Audacity's jack problem comes from portaudio, to retain cross compatibility. It will only show a source or sink when active. Not optimal for standard jack use. But it is true, it is a very good editor No dia 16 de Ago de 2011 23:38, Gerhard Lang lang.gerh...@gmail.com escreveu: Audacitie's cooperation with with jack is disgraceful. But indeed, for it's capabilities I see no comparable linux alternative. So I vote for retaining Gerhard Am 16.08.2011 09:02, schrieb David Henningsson: On 08/15/2011 03:38 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com mailto:david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic http://launchpad.net/%7Ediwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.__ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-__studio-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Well, the last time this was up for debate, you asked me to write down a use case or workflow, and so I did, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows#Simple_recording_of_concert.2C_conversation_etc -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- MH mikeholstein.info http://www.mikeholstein.info/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
On 08/13/2011 11:13 PM, Janne Jokitalo wrote: Hi, I know we have lots of room for improvement in publishing how the development is progressing WRT Ubuntu Studio devel release. We'll do better, I promise. But here's one chance to make a difference for Oneiric. Have a (careful) look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric If you see something there, that shouldn't be there, or should, but is not (limited to what's in oneiric repositories currently, excluding the highly-unlikely FFes), give us a shout. Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-develhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Cheers, ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
hey Scott, what audio editor is used in place of audacity? afaik, audacity is full featured and works nice (my favorite [linux] audio editor). I know some people that use it on Windows, so they already how it works. I think the question should be - why isn't audacity included? 2011/8/15 Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, David Henningsson david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote: Hmm, seeds and that is not my area of expertise, but I seem to be missing audacity? -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. http://launchpad.net/~diwic -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.**ubuntu.comUbuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-develhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel David, Audacity was consciously removed from the seeds. I would infer that you believe it should included. May I ask why so? Cheers, ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:05:29AM +0100, Filipe Lopes wrote: After a quick check I saw that 'pulseaudio-module-jack' is missing. Thanks, I'll add that soon. not sure about the lib32jack thing, but this should be at least a recommends (since we do have other pulseaudio stuff in there) I didn't see any direct references to this while searching for lib and jack in oneiric repos. Could you elaborate on that, please? Thanks for the suggestions! -- Jaska signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call for Oneiric seeds
well, on but this should be at least a recommends I was referring to pulseaudio-module-jack; ie, that it should at least be a recommends 2011/8/14 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:05:29AM +0100, Filipe Lopes wrote: After a quick check I saw that 'pulseaudio-module-jack' is missing. Thanks, I'll add that soon. not sure about the lib32jack thing, but this should be at least a recommends (since we do have other pulseaudio stuff in there) I didn't see any direct references to this while searching for lib and jack in oneiric repos. Could you elaborate on that, please? Thanks for the suggestions! -- Jaska -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk5ILTIACgkQxgcH0NnJT+B8rgCdFd+wZDnm0PfILxupC84bChQY MPkAn1M+cz1fA31v5dwR18/bydH53rnR =Amoh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Last call for Oneiric seeds
Hi, I know we have lots of room for improvement in publishing how the development is progressing WRT Ubuntu Studio devel release. We'll do better, I promise. But here's one chance to make a difference for Oneiric. Have a (careful) look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric If you see something there, that shouldn't be there, or should, but is not (limited to what's in oneiric repositories currently, excluding the highly-unlikely FFes), give us a shout. Otherwise, this is pretty much what you will find when the release comes. Thanks for your attention, and really, we'll do better in the future! Thank you for following the distribution! :) -- Jaska signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
