Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder
On 17 September 2010 01:27, David D Lowe daviddlowe.fl...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/09/10 22:02, Tommy Pyatt wrote: You may be able to compress it first into a .tar.gz or other compressed archive of some sort, then you could store it anywhere. I think I've done that before, but i'm not certain. Last time I tried that, it took half an hour before spitting out an error message. David D Lowe You need to make sure there's enough space to store the archive, but that's the best way to make sure that permissions are maintained. NTFS isn't good enough, in my experience. As a minimum, it makes every file executable. I can't remember what happens about user names, but I don't think it works. Ext2/3/4 or another Linux filesystem works OK. I normally do as Tommy suggested and use an archive though. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Conky doesn't display on XFCE desktop
Hi guys,
I recently made the switch to XFCE, and mostly it's working well. Quick,
clean interface etc.
The one thing I can't fix is Conky. It used to display on the nautilus
desktop... and it still starts up with no errors... but I can't see where it
goes!
starting from the command line gives
m...@alida:~$ conky
Conky: desktop window (1e3) is subwindow of root window (15a)
Conky: window type - override
Conky: drawing to created window (0x4a1)
Conky: drawing to double buffer
and my conf file is fairly standard:
m...@alida:~$ cat .conkyrc
# Create own window instead of using desktop (required in nautilus)
own_window yes
own_window_type override
own_window_transparent yes
## apparently this is not needed in XFCE
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
# Stop stuff going to stdout
out_to_console no
# Use double buffering (reduces flicker)
double_buffer yes
# fiddle with window
use_spacer right
# Use Xft?
use_xft yes
xftfont andalemono:size=8:weight=700
xftalpha 0.8
text_buffer_size 2048
uppercase yes
# Update interval in seconds
update_interval 5.0
# Draw shades?
draw_shades no
# Text stuff
draw_outline no # amplifies text if yes
uppercase no # set to yes if you want all text to be in uppercase
# borders
draw_borders no
#stippled_borders 3
#border_margin 9
#border_width 10
# Default colors and also border colors, grey90 == #e5e5e5
default_color black
#default_color white
own_window_colour brown
own_window_transparent yes
# Alignment
alignment top_right
# Gap between borders of screen and text
gap_x 10
gap_y 30
# load lua script(s)
lua_load /home/matt/bin/conky/readfile.lua
# stuff after 'TEXT' will be formatted on screen
TEXT
${voffset -20}${alignc 80}${color orange}${font OpenLogos:size=90}v${font}
${voffset -35}${color orange}$nodename ${hr 2}$color
$sysname $kernel on $machine
Uptime $uptime
${color orange}WORLD TIMES ${hr 2}$color
Time in UK: ${goto 130}${tztime Europe/London %H:%M %d/%b}
Time in Barcelona: ${goto 130}${tztime Europe/Madrid %H:%M %d/%b}
Time in Cochin: ${goto 130}${tztime Asia/Kolkata %H:%M %d/%b}
Time in São Paulo: ${goto 130}${tztime Brazil/East %H:%M %d/%b}
${color orange}INFO ${hr 2}$color
${if_running banshee-1}${execi 5 BansheeNowPlaying|fold -w 60}${else}Banshee
is not running${endif}
${lua readfile /home/matt/bin/script_data/TheLatestBugle.txt}
${lua readfile /home/matt/Desktop/UPDATES.txt}
${color orange}CPU ${hr 2}$color
${freq}MHz ${goto 100}Temp: ${acpitemp}°C ${goto 200}GPU Temp: ${execi 5
nvidia-settings -q GPUCoreTemp -t}°C
Processes:$processes ${alignr}$running_processes running
Load: ${loadavg}
$cpubar
${cpugraph 00 ff}
${goto 15}CPU% ${goto 70}MEM% ${goto 155}NAME ${goto 250}PID${font
andalemono:weight=0:size=8}
${goto 15}${top cpu 1} ${goto 70}${top mem 1} ${goto 155}${top name 1} ${goto
250}${top pid 1}
${goto 15}${top cpu 2} ${goto 70}${top mem 2} ${goto 155}${top name 2} ${goto
250}${top pid 2}
${goto 15}${top cpu 3} ${goto 70}${top mem 3} ${goto 155}${top name 3} ${goto
250}${top pid 3}
${goto 15}${top cpu 4} ${goto 70}${top mem 4} ${goto 155}${top name 4} ${goto
250}${top pid 4}${font}
${color orange}MEMORY | DISK ${hr 2}$color
RAM: $memperc% ${membar 6}$color
Swap: $swapperc% ${swapbar 6}$color
Filesystems: ${fs_free /} free of ${fs_size /}
${fs_bar 6 /}$color
${color orange}NETWORK ${hr 2}$color
Address: ${addr wlan0} on $gw_iface
Down: $color${downspeed wlan0}/s ${alignr}Up: ${upspeed wlan0}/s
${downspeedgraph wlan0 25,140 00 ff} ${alignr}${upspeedgraph wlan0
25,140 00 00ff00}$color
Total: ${totaldown wlan0} ${alignr}Total: ${totalup wlan0}
Has anyone else had/fixed this problem?
Otherwise... some pointers on how to investigate this further would be
awesome.
Cheers!
Matt
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!
On 16/09/2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote: Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine. Steve It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch programs streamed in your browser. You can install 32 bit air on 10.04, even 64-bit. Essentially, you need to download the .bin (not the .deb) version. I use it for tweetdeck and iplayer-- though my iplayer often hangs when downloading. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-install-adobe-air-in-ubuntu-10-10-64bit/ (there are other similar suggestions) Glen -- Glen Mehn e: glen.m...@oba.co.uk | t: @gmehn m: +44 7942 675 755 | w: http://glen.mehn.net b: http://glen.mehn.net/mba -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conky doesn't display on XFCE desktop
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Matt Sturdy matt.stu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I recently made the switch to XFCE, and mostly it's working well. Quick, clean interface etc. The one thing I can't fix is Conky. It used to display on the nautilus desktop... and it still starts up with no errors... but I can't see where it goes! starting from the command line gives m...@alida:~$ conky Conky: desktop window (1e3) is subwindow of root window (15a) Conky: window type - override Conky: drawing to created window (0x4a1) Conky: drawing to double buffer and my conf file is fairly standard: m...@alida:~$ cat .conkyrc # Create own window instead of using desktop (required in nautilus) own_window yes own_window_type override own_window_transparent yes ## apparently this is not needed in XFCE own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager Hey Matt :) Have you tried playing around with the 'own_window' settings/values? I use the following when running Conky in Xfce: own_window yes own_window_transparent yes own_window_type desktop own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager It looks like the only difference is the value given for 'own_window_type'. Cheers -- Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data
On 11/08/10 13:07, Alan Pope wrote: On 11 August 2010 12:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote: I tried to install it, from the repository, it says its installed, but I cant find it any where. Where would it install to? This lists the files in the package:- http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/secure-delete/filelist /usr/bin/sdmem /usr/bin/sfill /usr/bin/srm /usr/bin/sswap And this indicates they have man pages:- /usr/share/man/man1/sdmem.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sfill.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/srm.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sswap.1.gz Cheers, Al. Hi Al, sorry its taken so long to get back on this, and now I see both urls are page unavailable now, so dont know what is going on there. I tried installing secure-delete, it says its installed, but I its not in any of the drop down menus. Do you know how I can find it to start it, or is now gone. Thanks. John. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conky doesn't display on XFCE desktop
On 17 September 2010 10:57, Philip Newborough corenomi...@corenominal.orgwrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Matt Sturdy matt.stu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I recently made the switch to XFCE, and mostly it's working well. Quick, clean interface etc. The one thing I can't fix is Conky. It used to display on the nautilus desktop... and it still starts up with no errors... but I can't see where it goes! starting from the command line gives m...@alida:~$ conky Conky: desktop window (1e3) is subwindow of root window (15a) Conky: window type - override Conky: drawing to created window (0x4a1) Conky: drawing to double buffer and my conf file is fairly standard: m...@alida:~$ cat .conkyrc # Create own window instead of using desktop (required in nautilus) own_window yes own_window_type override own_window_transparent yes ## apparently this is not needed in XFCE own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager Hey Matt :) Have you tried playing around with the 'own_window' settings/values? I use the following when running Conky in Xfce: own_window yes own_window_transparent yes own_window_type desktop own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager It looks like the only difference is the value given for 'own_window_type'. Cheers -- Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Hey Philip! You're a star! Thanks, that's working perfectly now! I'd tried a few things, but hadn't hit on that... aaah, back to system monitoring bliss... :) Cheers! Matt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data
On 17 September 2010 11:04, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 11/08/10 13:07, Alan Pope wrote: On 11 August 2010 12:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote: I tried to install it, from the repository, it says its installed, but I cant find it any where. Where would it install to? This lists the files in the package:- http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/secure-delete/filelist /usr/bin/sdmem /usr/bin/sfill /usr/bin/srm /usr/bin/sswap And this indicates they have man pages:- /usr/share/man/man1/sdmem.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sfill.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/srm.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sswap.1.gz Cheers, Al. Hi Al, sorry its taken so long to get back on this, and now I see both urls are page unavailable now, so dont know what is going on there. I tried installing secure-delete, it says its installed, but I its not in any of the drop down menus. Do you know how I can find it to start it, or is now gone. Thanks. John. -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ secure-delete is a command line tool and must be run from the terminal. i believe the command you are looking fro is srm. try typeing man srm in terminal. i personaly have not used it. i have used wipe command in the past . http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/01/securely-wipeerase-files-in-ubuntu.html hope this helps. azmodie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO
On 16/09/2010 23:31, David King wrote: Alan Pope wrote: On 15 September 2010 09:10, Mark Harrisonm...@ascentium.co.uk wrote: 1: I've not used MS Office for about 5 years now, however the one time I needed to was in 2007 for a really complex mailmerge, which is one area where MSO is still better than OOo :-( I once made the mistake of saying on a LUG mailing list I have to use Microsoft office at work at which point it was pointed out that I didn't have to work for that company by one of the members of the list. This is of course true, and for some people it is indeed possible and desirable to make a career choice based only on whether they get to use free software all day or not. An example of such a person would be Bradley Kuhn. Personally that's not a choice I'm going to make because I'm a pragmatist, and the software I use on a daily basis is only part of the decision making process. Unfortunately OpenOffice.org is incompatible with the systems we use at work every day. This frustrates me, but that frustration is tempered with the knowledge that we have hundreds of quite chunky boxes powering the Enterprise that are all running Linux :D I too have to use MS Office 2007 at work. We used to use MS Office 2003 which was quite good, but 2007 is really lousy to use, with a terrible ribbon interface and it seems quite a few bugs. I would much prefer to use OpenOffice.org at work, or other high quality software. A friend of mine recently bought an Apple Mac, which came with MS Office 2008. Compared to the Windows version 2007, the Mac version is fantastic. It has menus, a toolbar and a floating palette like a DTP program. This Mac version of Office is definitely a well-designed program, and something that the Linux community should be looking to emulate. I hope that future software will NOT have stupid ribbon interfaces, but will continue to have sensible menus and palettes that help people to be more productive. Where I work, the switch to Office 2007 has seriously reduced productivity. The only plus side to this is that I have been getting more overtime (and thus more pay). But it really has caused a lot of headaches. I really wish that OpenOffice.org was up to the task of doing what MS Office can do (in relation to what we need to where I work, which does not include mailmerge, but does include a lot of page layouts, complicated financial charts and lots of complicated nested tables). At least I know that the company does use Linux, at least for its file servers, but we have Windows XP on the desktop. I expect they could change everything to either Linux or Mac, but within a large organisation getting everyone retrained is expensive and time-consuming, although they have wasted a lot on changing to Office 2007. But I do believe that for startups and small companies, using OpenOffice is probably the best option for an office suite rather than any MS software (as well as Linux on the desktop instead of Windows). Hmmm.. Much as I am an enormous free software advocate (linux user since 1993, professionally since 1998), I have to disagree with you here. The answer is, unfortunately, It depends on what you're doing. This below is all my 2p. Office software is a large, complicated beast, that's used by everyone from programmers to office admins to statisticians. The Ribbon interface is a choice, which does some things well and other things poorly. I know the OOO interface team is looking at the pros and cons of a ribbon type interface. It takes a bit of getting used to, but once you understand how it works (and where all the functionality is), it can make things clearer-- particularly for the new user. I personally think OOO and MSO have their own pros and cons-- this comes from working for 12 years as an IT and business consultant on strategy and ops work, and using unix based tools (I'm VI over emacs, for instance), but in the last 5 years making extensive use of both sets of office products. Word wins out over Writer, I think, for the following reasons: - Track Changes is just easier to use. - Comments make more sense-- you highlight a section to comment, rather than picking a point, so when there's a long comment or a tricky bit of comprehension, it helps. A lot. Especially when you're co-writing/editing a 50pp+ document with people speaking different languages in six timezones. - Writer's styles formatting is just inconsistent. Sometimes styles get applied, sometimes they don't. Sometimes styles change (revert to default) between iterations of the same document on the same OS on the same install of OOO. Excel and Calc are closer, though I think Excel still has a slight edge - Pivot tables support pivot charts and more data types - Excel has more keyboard shortcuts (think: ctrl-d/ctrl-r to fill down/right), although they're hiding both of these - Slightly better/more user friendly interface for things like the Solver - Calc
Re: [ubuntu-uk] meeting tonight 9PM
as predicted a meeting was indeed held and the minutes are available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting Key points to note: * If you are involved in any kind of interesting activity then do bung it on the team report. * There is a current opportunity for a business to get some advertising exposure by sponsoring an Ubuntu installfest in the Leeds area. Actions recorded in the meeting were: * Daviey to work with the website editorial team Wednesday 22nd * AlanBell to form an editorial team * daubers to mail list relating to progress and next steps on the improving support project * AlanBell to put Monotoko in touch with someone at canonical to ask about sponsorship of Leeds installfest * CyberJacob to investigate automating the profile roulette page the next meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NextMeeting is on Tuesday 28th September Alan. -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO
On 17/09/2010 12:16, Glen Mehn wrote: Word wins out over Writer, I think, for the following reasons: - Track Changes is just easier to use. - Comments make more sense-- you highlight a section to comment, rather than picking a point, so when there's a long comment or a tricky bit of comprehension, it helps. A lot. Especially when you're co-writing/editing a 50pp+ document with people speaking different languages in six timezones. - Writer's styles formatting is just inconsistent. Sometimes styles get applied, sometimes they don't. Sometimes styles change (revert to default) between iterations of the same document on the same OS on the same install of OOO. Interestingly I have both Office 2007 and OO 3.2.1 and I would make the following observations. Word has the ability to print several pages on one sheet whereas OO does not. (Same machine, Windows 7, same printer). However, the print booklet function in Word 2007 is well and truly broken (whether they have fixed that in 2010 I don't know, and as it's extremely unlikely that I shall upgrade to 2010 given the excellence of the current OO version, I probably will never find out!) - the OO version (print brochure) is very good. The Ribbon I find pretty good. It doesn't take too long to find everything, but I also like the menus and icons of OO as well. The MAJOR problem I have with Word 2007 is that if you use the default OOXML format, then to send a document to a non-2007 (or 2010) user, you HAVE to do a Save-As into .doc format, which means that you then have TWO versions of the document. In OO all you need to do is File-Send-Email Document as Microsoft Word and it automatically converts ODF to ,doc IN THE EMAIL, so you effectively only have ONE version of the document on your HDD. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder
On 16/09/10 09:57, Alan Lord (News) wrote: One gotcha that you should be aware of when using a fresh operating system install is that usernames and groups in linux are actually really numbers (UID and GID) and the name is mapped to the UID in /etc/passwd. If you are the first user (the admin user) on Ubuntu your UID should be 1000 - try typing ls -n in a terminal window. When you install a new system the user you create during that install is assigned the UID and GID 1000. Clearly, if you back up your home/username directory and you are not the first user (perhaps your UID is 1002 for example) then you will need to be aware of this and change the UID/GID of your home directory's data. To help me be more clear on this: Am I correct in understanding that as long as the original /home/username is copied or backed up while being signed on as first user, then the subsequent paste into the new install will be ok? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder
On 17/09/10 13:35, alan c wrote: On 16/09/10 09:57, Alan Lord (News) wrote: One gotcha that you should be aware of when using a fresh operating system install is that usernames and groups in linux are actually really numbers (UID and GID) and the name is mapped to the UID in /etc/passwd. snip / To help me be more clear on this: Am I correct in understanding that as long as the original /home/username is copied or backed up while being signed on as first user, then the subsequent paste into the new install will be ok? Hi Alan, How does this work? When every user is created on a linux system they are assigned a UID number (and usually a GID of the same). These tend to happen sequentially so the first user (the one you create when installing Ubuntu) will get UID 1000. The next 1001 etc etc - there *may* be gaps as some applications might create users when they get installed. Although looking at my /etc/passwd it looks as though Ubuntu uses UIDs 1000 for applications. So: /home/user1 will be stored on the file system with UID/GID of 1000. /home/user2 1001 /home/user3 1002 etc etc, It isn't a *major* headache of the UIDs from one system to the next don't match when moving a backup, you just have to be aware of this and change as necessary: either use: sudo vipw to edit /etc/password and change the user's UID/GID to the right ones, or: sudo chown newuser: -R /home/newuser I'd be a little more careful with this one in case there are any system files/hidden files stored in your home dir. I don't think there should be but I'm sure a quick search/find could tell you. HTH Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine
On 16/09/10 23:03, Jim Price wrote: On 16/09/10 18:24, Jacob Mansfield wrote: so I can't get ubuntu NBR You can - just install whatever ubuntu 10.04 you can by whatever means, then install the ubuntu-netbook package, which will bring with it the rest of the bits you need for the netbook interface. I've not tried it, so I can't comment on how well it works. I'll give it a try -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder
On 17/09/10 14:18, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 17/09/10 13:35, alan c wrote: On 16/09/10 09:57, Alan Lord (News) wrote: One gotcha that you should be aware of when using a fresh operating system install is that usernames and groups in linux are actually really numbers (UID and GID) and the name is mapped to the UID in /etc/passwd. snip / To help me be more clear on this: Am I correct in understanding that as long as the original /home/username is copied or backed up while being signed on as first user, then the subsequent paste into the new install will be ok? Hi Alan, How does this work? When every user is created on a linux system they are assigned a UID number (and usually a GID of the same). These tend to happen sequentially so the first user (the one you create when installing Ubuntu) will get UID 1000. The next 1001 etc etc - there *may* be gaps as some applications might create users when they get installed. Although looking at my /etc/passwd it looks as though Ubuntu uses UIDs 1000 for applications. So: /home/user1 will be stored on the file system with UID/GID of 1000. /home/user2 1001 /home/user3 1002 etc etc, It isn't a *major* headache of the UIDs from one system to the next don't match when moving a backup, you just have to be aware of this and change as necessary: either use: sudo vipw to edit /etc/password and change the user's UID/GID to the right ones, or: sudo chown newuser: -R /home/newuser I'd be a little more careful with this one in case there are any system files/hidden files stored in your home dir. I don't think there should be but I'm sure a quick search/find could tell you. Thanks Alan. I am dealing with fairly basic systems so it will be easiest for me to work only as the first user for the backups and the subsequent install. I am also looking at some other aspects of /home/username also however I will post in a new subject. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Pasting home directory into new and version upgrade installs?
I have a friend with Ubuntu 9.04 and I will do a version upgrade for them soon. One option is to version upgrade online to 9.10 and then, at another convenient future date, version upgrade to 10.04 LTS, which they will stay with for a longer time. Another option is to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS now, and then re-configure to match the user's apps and data. One suggestion I have received is, that after a clean reinstall of 10.04.1, I could then replace the clean /home/username directory with the copy of the directory from the user's 9.04 which I would have created earlier in careful backups. Thinking of this last option, I find a number of questions come to mind. What is the effect of brutally just replacing /home/username from an earlier version, possibly two or so versions old? The user has one app for example, Digikam (in Ubuntu) which they regularly use, and this I guess uses a number of kde libraries whatever. I cannot help wondering what sort of clean up (or chaos) I might be faced with, perhaps out of my depth too, by following this latter approach. I would welcome comments here. tia -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pasting home directory into new and version upgrade installs?
On 17 September 2010 21:11, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: I have a friend with Ubuntu 9.04 and I will do a version upgrade for them soon. One option is to version upgrade online to 9.10 and then, at another convenient future date, version upgrade to 10.04 LTS, which they will stay with for a longer time. Another option is to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS now, and then re-configure to match the user's apps and data. One suggestion I have received is, that after a clean reinstall of 10.04.1, I could then replace the clean /home/username directory with the copy of the directory from the user's 9.04 which I would have created earlier in careful backups. Thinking of this last option, I find a number of questions come to mind. What is the effect of brutally just replacing /home/username from an earlier version, possibly two or so versions old? The user has one app for example, Digikam (in Ubuntu) which they regularly use, and this I guess uses a number of kde libraries whatever. I cannot help wondering what sort of clean up (or chaos) I might be faced with, perhaps out of my depth too, by following this latter approach. I would welcome comments here. Get them onto the LTS release *now* and then you can safely leave 'em there 'til 2012. *Don't* put them onto 9.10, it's already obsolescent. Me, personally, I'd say wipe reload. It's easier than doing 9.04 - 9.10 followed by 9.10 - 10.04. Just move /home into a separate filesystem, if it isn't already, make a note of any apps and config you need, then reformat / and install 10.04 into it. Let the install procedure pick up the existing /home/$username folder - it should sort things out for you. If possible, avoid replacing it later; have it there, /in situ/, first. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
