Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux is not a proper OS - it's official.
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:20 +, Barry Titterton wrote: > The French government has decided that a machine using linux is not a > proper computer. > > http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1847&news=tablet+archos > +windows+french+france > > You can always rely on the French for a good laugh. Don't worry, when it comes to finding excuses to tax you more, any government in the world can come up with nonsensical ideas! Having said that, the TabletPCReview.com article seems to have a different interpretation than the original Numerama article [1]. According to the original article, it seems to apply exclusively to tablets that run a mobile or dedicated OS. Any tablet running a desktop OS (e.g. Windows 7 but also presumably a desktop version of Linux) would be exempt. Now, whether that makes the whole thing any more sensible is open for debate. [1] http://www.numerama.com/magazine/17823-les-tablettes-tactiles-seront-taxees-pour-la-copie-privee.html Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] open source expo
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:18 +, Barry Drake wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:08 +, Barry Drake wrote: > > page. Not spelling mistakes, but it didn't tell me I hadn't said what > > sessions I would attend. > > Oh, I hadn't said which magazines I want to take. That was needed too, > but wen unchallenged. I chose Ubonto users mag (I think). Either way, > I have no idea what I chose! Indeed, I got it to work (eventually). Whoever designed this registration page should hang his head in shame. Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] open source expo
On 14 January 2011 15:56, Alan Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > The .org pavilion at the show is now confirmed (I thought it was already, > but hey, it really has been now) > > We have been asked to ‘blog the life out of the event’ and the organisers > would appreciate if we could promote it on our LinkedIn and social > networking sites/web sites etc... fyi entry to the event is Free for those > booking up until 12.00 midnight on 1st February 2011. Thereafter visitors > will be asked to pay £15.00 so you need to register asap. > > Those able to help staff the stand should put their names down on the > schedule http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/linuxexposchedule and kit themselves out > with a Maverick Tshirt > > Alan. > Hello all, Next week I'll be talking about the event on the mailing lists of the London developer communities I am involved with, so will reach around 2,500 people. Thank you. -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LDAP server Invalid credentials
I have been trying to set up an LDAP server for some time now. when I finally found an up-to-date tutorial at http://www.zarafa.com/wiki/index.php/Zarafa_LDAP_cn_config_How_To the first step of this has worked fine however when running the command ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,dc=cyberkingsolutions,dc=co,dc=up -W -f base.ldif I am prompted for a password. I enter the password I have used at all other points tn the tut and are met with a fail message: ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) when not entering a password at the prompt (just hitting return) I get ldap_bind: server is unwilling to perform (53) additional info: unauthenticated bind (DN with no password) disallowed. please help me get LDAP working, and thanks in advance (I know all of you awsome guys (and gals (or gales according to auto-correct)) will find the problem and help me fix it) -- Jacob Mansfield Programmer import disclaimer from email signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux is not a proper OS - it's official.
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:20 +, Barry Titterton wrote: > The French government has decided that a machine using linux is not a > proper computer. It's good to know that the Gendarmerie Nationale don't use computers. I think there's a translation slip. Ordinateurs can only use Windows because they're French. Computers, being international (except France who use ordinateurs) can run non-legacy OSs -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Linux is not a proper OS - it's official.
The French government has decided that a machine using linux is not a proper computer. http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1847&news=tablet+archos +windows+french+france You can always rely on the French for a good laugh. Barry -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] open source expo
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:08 +, Barry Drake wrote: > page. Not spelling mistakes, but it didn't tell me I hadn't said what > sessions I would attend. Oh, I hadn't said which magazines I want to take. That was needed too, but wen unchallenged. I chose Ubonto users mag (I think). Either way, I have no idea what I chose! > -- > What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? > ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! > > -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] open source expo
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:49 +, Bruno Girin wrote: > The registration doesn't seem to work with Firefox on Maverick, or at > least not the versions in the Mozilla PPA. That looks a bit ridiculous > for a Linux and OSS expo. And don't get me started on the spelling > mistakes on the registration form. I had to have two goes. (Firefox on Lucid). It is a poorly designed page. Not spelling mistakes, but it didn't tell me I hadn't said what sessions I would attend. Some omissions are challenged; others aren't. Have another go. Regards,Barry. -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] open source expo
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 15:56 +, Alan Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > The .org pavilion at the show is now confirmed (I thought it was > already, but hey, it really has been now) > > We have been asked to ‘blog the life out of the event’ and the > organisers would appreciate if we could promote it on our LinkedIn and > social networking sites/web sites etc... fyi entry to the event is > Free for those booking up until 12.00 midnight on 1st February 2011. > Thereafter visitors will be asked to pay £15.00 so you need to > register asap. The registration doesn't seem to work with Firefox on Maverick, or at least not the versions in the Mozilla PPA. That looks a bit ridiculous for a Linux and OSS expo. And don't get me started on the spelling mistakes on the registration form. > > Those able to help staff the stand should put their names down on the > schedule http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/linuxexposchedule and kit themselves > out with a Maverick Tshirt Done that! Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NetBook issue #2
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 15:50 +, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > It sounds like restrictions on the network. I think the issue with the > domain login is a known problem with Microsoft Internet Proxy of the > type that only comes up in certain situations. I'm not sure if Samba > can resolve it at all. The other problems sound like regular corporate > network security configuration: Allowing IMAP is very rare, and > restricting webmail is very common. The answer is generally to use a > dongle. Just what I suspected. Dongle is fine IF I remember to turn off file syncing on UbuntuOne. It was in the middle of syncing a few meaty files when I went away, and it gobbled up all my phone credit in minutes! Regards,Barry Drake. -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NetBook issues - #1
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 16:03 +, Chris Wilson wrote: > If you want my advice on the best course of actions, forget about > Evolution. It feels to me like it's supposed to be an open source > version of Microsoft Outlook but hasn't really moved far beyond that. > If you want to keep using a desktop mail client, the Claws Mail or > Kmail are both pretty good lightweight apps, and both are available > from the software centre I always used Thunderbird, and have put that on everyone's PC when I installed Ubuntu for them. For my part, I wanted to spend long enough using Evolution to get a good feel for it. There are one or two things I don't like, and a lot of things I do like, so for now I'll stick with it. I really want to try to stick with the standard out-of-the-box Ubuntu releases for now while I'm on the Ubuntu Advertising team. Thanks for your comments. You're very probably right! As for Gmail, I like to have my stuff stored locally so I can access e-mails when I don't have internet access. iMap on both NetBook and Desktop suits me well as it syncs both computers nicely. Regards,Barry Drake. -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NetBook issues - #1
My experience with Evolution has been far from optimal. It's always been kinda slow and extremely clunky, though I've never taken the time to figure out why. I guess this is one of the reasons :P If it's advice on how to keep Evolution in tip-top shape, then I can't help you there, though I'm sure there's someone on the list, or further out in the community who can help you. Try asking here http://askubuntu.com. If you want my advice on the best course of actions, forget about Evolution. It feels to me like it's supposed to be an open source version of Microsoft Outlook but hasn't really moved far beyond that. If you want to keep using a desktop mail client, the Claws Mail or Kmail are both pretty good lightweight apps, and both are available from the software centre There's also the mail client from the Elementary project, Postler ( http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/postler-elementary%E2%80%99s-new-mail-client/). I'm not sure if this is available outside of the Elementary OS right now, but it looks pretty sleek and so might be worth a try. Personally, I've given up managing my mail from the desktop and operate out of Gmail. Once I get the mail from my various accounts forwarded to my Gmail address, I can just head into my settings to set up the ability to send mail via the smtp servers of my various mail providers, so it looks as if it's coming straight from them. This is done simply by telling Gmail what address you'd like to send mail from, having it send an email to it which will contain a verification link (which if you already have fording set up will come straight to you Gmail inbox) and clicking on that link to complete the process. I now have a drop down menu of available email address from which to send mail from Gmail. That solution depends, however, on how you look at Google as a company, and at cloud computing as a viable alternative to client computing. You can probably also set up other major web mail services to do the same, so you don't have to through your lot in with Google. On 14 January 2011 15:22, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there ... I've been at a conference the last three days and noticed > some things that I'd appreciate comment to. My NetBook is a Dell Mini > 10v which is moderately slow and has only 8 GiB of SSD. Normally quite > adequate. > > While away, I noticed that the HD was almost full, so now I'm back I > took a look. The home directory had over 2 GiB of data, do I did a bit > of pruning. There was still far too much stuff in the home folder and > when I looked closely, I saw that the main culprit was the bogofilter > database file that had grown to an enormous size. I deleted it and as a > bonus, filtering using Evolution was quite fast again. It had been > growing slower and slower with time. > > Any comments? > > I'll post the other issue separately. > > Regards,Barry Drake > -- > What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? > ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] open source expo
Hi all, The .org pavilion at the show is now confirmed (I thought it was already, but hey, it really has been now) We have been asked to 'blog the life out of the event' and the organisers would appreciate if we could promote it on our LinkedIn and social networking sites/web sites etc... fyi entry to the event is Free for those booking up until 12.00 midnight on 1^st February 2011. Thereafter visitors will be asked to pay £15.00 so you need to register asap. Those able to help staff the stand should put their names down on the schedule http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/linuxexposchedule and kit themselves out with a Maverick Tshirt Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NetBook issue #2
On 14 January 2011 15:35, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi again Back to this conference. It was at the High Leyes > conference centre. They offered wi-fi which gave a good signal. > Unfortunately it was one of these annoying systems that presents as a > domain (1.1.1.1/login) You can't do anything on it until it has > presented it's homepage and you have said yea to the conditions. I > managed to get to that screen a couple of times, but after that, Ubuntu > claimed that it would not handle this wi-fi feed because it does not > handle domains. It seems to be a security issue. > > I got it to work on my (less secure) pocket pc with Windows mobile five > and that turned out to be faily useless, as the wi-fi server would not > allow an iMap feedthrough. I was able to use webmail on the > conference-centre's own PC, but only for one provider. My most used > server is the crosswire one and that is strictly iMap only with no > webmail. > > I don't suppose there is a workaround for this problem? I ended up > using my Broadband dongle until I ran out of payg credit But > that's another story. > > It sounds like restrictions on the network. I think the issue with the domain login is a known problem with Microsoft Internet Proxy of the type that only comes up in certain situations. I'm not sure if Samba can resolve it at all. The other problems sound like regular corporate network security configuration: Allowing IMAP is very rare, and restricting webmail is very common. The answer is generally to use a dongle. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "Is this your sanderling?" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] NetBook issue #2
Hi again Back to this conference. It was at the High Leyes conference centre. They offered wi-fi which gave a good signal. Unfortunately it was one of these annoying systems that presents as a domain (1.1.1.1/login) You can't do anything on it until it has presented it's homepage and you have said yea to the conditions. I managed to get to that screen a couple of times, but after that, Ubuntu claimed that it would not handle this wi-fi feed because it does not handle domains. It seems to be a security issue. I got it to work on my (less secure) pocket pc with Windows mobile five and that turned out to be faily useless, as the wi-fi server would not allow an iMap feedthrough. I was able to use webmail on the conference-centre's own PC, but only for one provider. My most used server is the crosswire one and that is strictly iMap only with no webmail. I don't suppose there is a workaround for this problem? I ended up using my Broadband dongle until I ran out of payg credit But that's another story. Regards,Barry Drake. -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] NetBook issues - #1
Hi there ... I've been at a conference the last three days and noticed some things that I'd appreciate comment to. My NetBook is a Dell Mini 10v which is moderately slow and has only 8 GiB of SSD. Normally quite adequate. While away, I noticed that the HD was almost full, so now I'm back I took a look. The home directory had over 2 GiB of data, do I did a bit of pruning. There was still far too much stuff in the home folder and when I looked closely, I saw that the main culprit was the bogofilter database file that had grown to an enormous size. I deleted it and as a bonus, filtering using Evolution was quite fast again. It had been growing slower and slower with time. Any comments? I'll post the other issue separately. Regards,Barry Drake -- What do you see when you use your Computer? Same old thing? ...There IS a Better Way! Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu sync to iP[a|o]d - Apple ios4.2
Hi Folks, Im running Ubuntu 10.04, 64bit with libimobiledevice package installed as per default. I used to be able to plug in an iPhone/Pod running Apple ios 4.1.x and see files on the device sync music etc. However since upgrading the iPod and iPhone to ios4.2 this is no longer possible. Ive tried googling around but not found much in the way of information apart from a few mentions that ios4.2 has changed some things with the internal DB and the linux side of things is yet to reverse engineer this. Is this correct and if so has anyone else had this problem? I can see the devices in lsusb but they dont seem to mount: iPhone: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05ac:1294 Apple, Inc. iPhone 3GS iPod: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc. iPad: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 05ac:129a Apple, Inc. Is there anything I need to change or alter to get these devices back to a state where I can pull files off them? It was useful being able to drag photos and music off of them rather than jumping through all the hoops you need to with iTunes etc. Thanks -Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Test driving a new version (was Re: natty with unity)
On 14 January 2011 10:55, Sean Miller wrote: > This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy upgrading > this installation this early in the process... under WUBI can I have two > versions of Ubuntu? > > ie. when I boot can I have "Ubuntu 10.04" AND "11.04" (and obviously > Windows) all as options? > > As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the answer is > "no" I'd ask "why?" > I don't know the answer to your specific question, but trying a "test-drive" of the new version is precisely the Use Case for the "testdrive" application. If I remember correctly, it's available in 10.04 (just checked while looking for the following link, looks like it is). There's a nice GUI for it in 10.10 too (there's a PPA for 10.04) - try looking at Dustin Kirkland's blog on http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/02/have-you-taken-lucid-for-testrive-yet.html sudo add-apt-repository ppa:testdrive/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install testdrive Also install testdrive-gtk if you want the GUI. If you don't want to use the command-line to install, open Software Centre, choose Edit > Software Sources on the menu, click the "Other Software" tab then the "Add" button, enter "ppa:testdrive/ppa" and click the Add button. Close the Software Sources and go back to the Software Centre window and search for "testdrive". As an aside, it'll create a virtual machine from other ISO images, not just Ubuntu. Cofion/Regards, Neil. P.S. Sean, sorry if you get this twice, but I cc'd you when I changed the Subject line. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 10:55 +, Sean Miller wrote: > This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy > upgrading this installation this early in the process... under WUBI > can I have two versions of Ubuntu? > > ie. when I boot can I have "Ubuntu 10.04" AND "11.04" (and obviously > Windows) all as options? > > As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the > answer is "no" I'd ask "why?" > > Sean I currently am missing the ziestgiest search feature and the various menus that are missing, but these ar eall addable to the plugin so I'm not worried about that. My only current concern is the race condition where by you get no menus appearing or you get no unity at all. Again there is a lot going on in the desktop space and hopefully with all the egghead devs locked in a hotel all week these issues will be well on there way to being ironed out. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
This is a slight tangent, but I'd like to see this but don't fancy upgrading this installation this early in the process... under WUBI can I have two versions of Ubuntu? ie. when I boot can I have "Ubuntu 10.04" AND "11.04" (and obviously Windows) all as options? As it's stored in a subdirectory of the windows partition, if the answer is "no" I'd ask "why?" Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 01:45 +, John Stevenson wrote: > I am having a great time using Unity ever since alpha1 and I > absolutely love it, its the best thing thats happened to the Linux > desktop in a long time (well since docky... and moving the > maximise/minimise buttons to the right hand side). > > -- > John Stevenson > Lean Agile Consultant / Coach > jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com > Indeed, it depends on your personal taste and I can see it appealing to people who don't use the panels much. And non-techies do gasp when they see the bare desktop of Ubuntu GNOME shell for the first time - but when they're shown around the nav they love it - I've always found it a great 'selling point'. I figured out you can add things to the dock by running them and clicking on keep on launcher but not much would fit on there given that the icons are ginormous and the window buttons are using the same space. I currently have nearly 30 icons on two panels with 7 windows open (all I'm doing is checking my mail) and that isn't going to fit on the dock. I also like to move the panels to suit my own taste. The dock is taking up rather a lot of real estate too and so is the useless top bar. And, yes, I know you can change the wallpaper - it's the dock which I think is ugly. The other thing I really hated is the higgledy-piggledy list of apps and admin stuff - I thought the existing Ubuntu/GNOME navbar was a piece of genius simplicity. I also like the quick dropdown to launch evolution, chat etc. I love the quick setup of sftp and bookmarks in nautilus places - I'm sure it's still there but it'd take half an hour to find it. And, yes, change always means taking half an hour to find stuff but clicking on a tab 'places' made sense to me. Agree that moving the buttons the left was sensible given where everything else is, though. I had unity on my netbook too, took it off and reverted to GNOME shell - even on a netbook it drove me silly. I just set the GNOME panels to autohide and it's all good. So, unless unity gets prettier and more adaptable, I'll be switching to 'classic desktop' lickety-spit. Anyway, we can argue about it in person later, John ;) Paula <>-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
