Re: [ubuntu-uk] where does flash store it's temporary files?

[Andy Braben]

>
> pete@petes-lappy:~$ /usr/bin/lsof
> bash: /usr/bin/lsof: No such file or directory
> pete@petes-lappy:~$ lsof
> bash: lsof: command not found
>
>
>
> -
>

I'm very very surprised that such a program is not installed, which is what
it looks like, so

apt-get install lsof
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Parties..

[Andy Braben]

I'm up for it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Toshiba NB100-11r netbooks

[Andy Braben]

On 25 Feb 2013 11:08, "Robert Flatters"  wrote:
>
> 12.04 LTS is a good choice
>
>
> On Monday, 25 February 2013, Mark Fraser wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 Toshiba NB100-11R netbooks that I no longer require and was
thinking
>> about selling on. They originally came with Ubuntu 8.04 netbook remix
>> installed, but I've since upgraded them to Kubuntu 12.10.
>>
>> My question is what version of Ubuntu do I install on them prior to
trying to
>> sell them? As I see it, my options are go back to 8.04 which is now 4
years
>> old or install 12.04.

>
For older machines that had 8.04 on them and are not quite up to the spec
of a modern machine, Ubuntu can be a little bit slow and sluggish and
Lubuntu brings them back up to speed.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

[Andy Braben]

Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the
>> Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu
>> 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that F2 no longer works, and that the
>> Windows 8 machinery for getting into UEFI us no longer there, how in fact
>> would I get into UEFI on that machine if for some reason I needed to? The
>> answer is, install Boot-Repair from repositories:
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/**community/Boot-Repair
>>
>>  I don't understand this whole 'F2 no longer works' thing. Bios was
> accessed through a wide array of keys depending on who made the machine.
> Del, CTRL+S, F1, F2, CTRL+ESC and the list goes on. Surely UEFI is accessed
> in exactly the same manner isn't it?
>


I'm geting lost on this "F2 no longer works" as well. Did F2 work when
Windows 8 was on it? If it did, what did it show? Anything to do with
UEFI/Secure Boot?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Square in top left slow to load when launching Firefox

[Andy Braben]

On 28 January 2013 20:10, Rowan Berkeley  wrote:

> I've posted this as a bug on Bugzilla, here:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835331
> Oddly enough, that excellent little video of the phenomenon which was at
> Ubuntu One has now disappeared.
>
>

As anyone else noticed that Chrome is also affected by this bug?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Square in top left slow to load when launching Firefox

[Andy Braben]

On 28 January 2013 09:42, Tony Pursell  wrote:

>
>
> On 28 January 2013 08:39, Rowan Berkeley  wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/13 08:30, Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/01/13 07:19, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
>>>
 This deserves a thread of its own, I think. 'Slow to load' means
 approximately a half-second late. During that half-second, the previous
 display remains visible in the square. It's approx 250x250 pixels in
 size, I should say, ie about the width of a tab in the browser tab bar.
 I've got this identical effect on two machines, a Lenovo N500 and a
 Lenovo S206, both running Ubuntu 12.10. I don't think it happens in
 older versions of Ubuntu. I've searched Launchpad, but I can't find this
 exactly; there are a few reports of top left Firefox problems, but not
 this exactly.


>>> Can you get a picture or screenshot of it? I'm having difficulty
>>> understanding the issue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>> No, Alan, it's a transient event lasting a half-second or so. It happens
>> very time I start Firefox on any of these three machines. It doesn't cause
>> any problems, but it's a bug nonetheless.
>>
>>
> I get this too - its a square of pixels about the size described above.  I
> am running 12.04 fully updated.  I get it on my desktop PC.
>
> Tony
>
>
> Happens to me as well on 12.10 on various machines.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu on a machine with Windows 9

[Andy Braben]

On 7 January 2013 14:12, Rowan Berkeley  wrote:

> Ha ha, I've managed it. The last message was precisely to the point. You
> MUST use a USB stick, and the latest version only (12.10). I took a chance
> and installed it instead of Windows, rather than alongside Windows, but it
> seems to be working perfectly, so far.
>
>
Well hopefully you have cracked it and solved it and feeling very relieved
that you have done so after spending so long on it, and many thanks for
telling us all that CD/DVD installation does NOT work with UEFI. A lesson
for us all there so that we don't have to be hampered with Windows 8 -
which is the most awful operating system that will hamper a lot of people.

Hopefully 12.04.2 will work as well, as anyone I support I keep on the LTS
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones

[Andy Braben]

On 3 January 2013 10:33, alan c  wrote:

> On 03/01/13 09:09, Andy Braben wrote:
>
>> The Ubuntu operating system has been adapted to run on smartphones.
>>
>> Article at: 
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-20891868<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868>
>>
>
> I am confused by the difference - if any - between the 'Ubuntu on android'
> and the proposed Ubuntu (OS) phone?
>
> I have a Samsung galaxy S3 android phone, which is near to a top of the
> range item, and I would like to make use of this in a ubuntu way, and not
> have to await another  different phone in a year's time
>
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>

There is a 20 minute video by SABDFL here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone which is well worth making time to
watch. He says that any phone which runs the Android kernel will run the
Ubuntu kernel.

I also have a Samsung Galazy S3 Android phone and will be very reluctant to
upgrade it to Ubuntu as it is a top of the range item unless there is a
thoroughly tried, tested and proven upgrade path to take.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones

[Andy Braben]

The Ubuntu operating system has been adapted to run on smartphones.

Article at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity - Count Your Blessings

[Andy Braben]

On 28 December 2012 12:09, Nigel Verity  wrote:

> Dear All
>
> I'm one of those people who have tried Unity and concluded that it's just
> not for them. That's why I use Xfce. However, over the last couple of days
> I've been helping out a friend by setting up a new laptop running Windows 8
> and clearing down her old machine running Vista, ready for selling. All I
> can say is that Vista is dreadful, and Windows 8 far far worse. Given me
> Unity any day!
>

I have set eyes on and had a play with Windows 8 and have never ever seen
anything so badly designed. It really is the most awful system to be
productive on. It is set up to be able to go directly to Facebook or
Twitter etc, but if that doesn't work because of a network problem with the
computer, don't ask me where the settings are, because I couldn't find them!

You like Xfce, I prefer Unity - that's fine - the power of Free Open Source
Software.


>
> Just letting off steam ...
>

We will all be able to let off Steam on Ubuntu soon, thanks to Valve not
being able to work with locked down Windows 8.


> Nige
>
>
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Locking screen.......

[Andy Braben]

On 4 December 2012 17:29, Liam Proven  wrote:

> On 3 December 2012 21:12, Barry Drake  wrote:
> > On 03/12/12 21:05, Colin Law wrote:
> >>
> >> Does it suspend if you do it from the menu in the cog in the top right
> >> hand corner? Colin
> >
> >
> > Colin ...   I've been wondering for ages what the official technical
> term is
> > for 'the cog in the top right hand corner'.  Thanks for enlightening me.
>
> :¬D
>
> This page seems to dodge the question...
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements/19166#19166
>
> ... But the menu that results from clicking on TCITTRHC is "the
> session menu". So that's a step in the right direction.
>


So should TCITTHRC be called the "session menu button"?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Locking screen.......

[Andy Braben]

On 3 Dec 2012 21:51, "Barry Drake"  wrote:
>
> On 03/12/12 21:17, Colin Law wrote:
>>
>> No problem, any time. I always keep up to date with the latest buzz
words. DASH, HUD, TCITTRHC. Colin
>
>
> TCITTRHC ???   Oh, I'm feeling really old and out of touch.  Sorry.
>
>
> Barry.
>
I'm feeling younger and enjoying these latest buzz phrases.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing post

[Andy Braben]

On 26 October 2012 13:25, Jim Price  wrote:

> On 26/10/12 13:21, Gareth France wrote:
>
>  I posted on here last night about a problem I'm having but it hasn't
>> shown up. Are we not allowed to attach photos to the email or something?
>>
>
> I can see your post from 8:45 pm yesterday evening about VLC - is that the
> one you can't see?
>
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> And the attachments show up perfectly.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi

[Andy Braben]

On 25 September 2012 21:32, Andres  wrote:

> Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks.
>
>
>   "
> Not all updates can be installed
> run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible.
> This could be cause by:
> *a previous upgrade that could not complete
> *problems with some of the installed software
> * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu
> *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu.
>
>
I recently had the same error messages, and the problem was, very simply -
a full hard disk.

As you are using Wubi, I feel it is likely that you may be experiencing the
same problem.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu in india

[Andy Braben]

On 21 June 2012 17:47, john  wrote:

> Thought that this may be interesting :
>
>
> ww.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-to-bring-Ubuntu-laptops-to-850-retail-stores-in-India-1620657.html
>
> John
>
>
www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-to-bring-Ubuntu-laptops-to-850-retail-stores-in-India-1620657.html

You are missing a "w" at the beginning of the URL.

How long before they are available in 850 stores over here?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] HUD vs gnome do

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HUD is just a keyboard way of accessing the menus instead of the mouse, so
no, there are no special commands.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....

[Andy Braben]

On 15 May 2012 09:49, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>  On 15/05/12 09:48, Barry Drake wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd mention   last night I installed 12.10 Quantal
> pre-alpha from the testing site on my spare HDD.  Works just fine for now.
>
>
> Bloody hell! I'm only just getting to grips with 12.04... :-)
>
>

Are there anything new in 12.10 yet? I wouldn't have thought so.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

[Andy Braben]

On 12 May 2012 19:42, Norman Silverstone  wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:47 +0100, Andy Braben wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 12 May 2012 18:39, Norman Silverstone 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install
> > Windows and
> > > > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and
> > so on. In the
> > > > past I have dual booted many machines without any
> > difficulty but this is
> > > > the first time I have tried with a machine with 2 drives
> > and there are
> > > > problems. Installing XP Pro puts the OS on the main drive
> > as expected
> > > > but Ubuntu wants to install on the second drive and not
> > along side
> > > > windows.
> > >
> > > I have three HD's on mine and I have no problem telling
> > Ubuntu exactly
> > > where I want it.  There is an option in the installer to
> > select
> > > whichever drive you want it on.  I can't remember details
> > without
> > > booting into a DVD but if you can't find it, I'll do that
> > for you.
> >
> >
> > Barry, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the
> > right
> > direction. I know that one of the options is to do something
> > else. I
> > have looked at that where the drives are listed but I am
> > uncertain what
> > to do thereafter.
>
> >
> > You need to "Do soemthing else". From there it should tell you what
> > you have on each drive, so should clearly show where Windows is. If
> > you only have one partition on that drive and Windows is taking up the
> > whole drive, you can select to partition the drive, which I think uses
> > GParted to do it.
> >
>
> Andy, all I know is that if there is one drive and the installer is
> instructed to install along side Windows, then the installer partitions
> the drive accordingly and gets on with the installation. So, are you
> suggesting that, because there are two drives one of which is empty, the
> installer decides to install on the empty one rather than partition and
> install on the one with Windows? I have heard of Artificial intelligence
> but surely this is not correct.
>
> Norman
>
>
When the partitioner first comes up it asks if you want to accept any
defaults. I doubt if a default is what you want to do so you should choose
"Do something Else"  On the next screen you should see two drives listed,
one clearly marked as having Windows on it.

Can you get as far as that before going any further?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot problem

[Andy Braben]

On 12 May 2012 18:39, Norman Silverstone  wrote:

>
> > > I have a new PC with two HDDs and I am trying to install Windows and
> > > Ubuntu on one of the drives keeping the other for data and so on. In
> the
> > > past I have dual booted many machines without any difficulty but this
> is
> > > the first time I have tried with a machine with 2 drives and there are
> > > problems. Installing XP Pro puts the OS on the main drive as expected
> > > but Ubuntu wants to install on the second drive and not along side
> > > windows.
> >
> > I have three HD's on mine and I have no problem telling Ubuntu exactly
> > where I want it.  There is an option in the installer to select
> > whichever drive you want it on.  I can't remember details without
> > booting into a DVD but if you can't find it, I'll do that for you.
>
> Barry, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the right
> direction. I know that one of the options is to do something else. I
> have looked at that where the drives are listed but I am uncertain what
> to do thereafter.
>
> Norman
>
>
You need to "Do soemthing else". From there it should tell you what you
have on each drive, so should clearly show where Windows is. If you only
have one partition on that drive and Windows is taking up the whole drive,
you can select to partition the drive, which I think uses GParted to do it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Precise - some thoughts .....

[Andy Braben]

On 8 May 2012 16:50, Sarah Chard  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>   On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 13:16 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>
> Are you sure that an Android app is the best way to do this?  I would
> have thought that most who understand Android apps would have little
> difficulty getting into the boot menu.  Perhaps a web site would be
> better.
>
>
>
> well lots of people use smartphone apps everyday just because they own an
> android or iphone but have probably never been near the boot menu on their
> computer  - so the idea is  it would just tell you which keys to press to
> get to the boot menu on your particular machine and then how you can choose
> your boot option.
> We will  include the info on our website as well - so it's easy  to find
> online
> Sarah
>


Personally, while I see this as very useful information and well worth
doing on a website - why do you want an Android app? The website is just as
viewable on a phone as it is on any other computer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

[Andy Braben]

On 4 May 2012 20:28, Keith Burnett  wrote:

> Hello Alan and all
>
> So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support
> contract.
>
> How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in
> software update?
>
> Cheers
> --Original Message--
> From: Alan Bell
> Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> ReplyTo: UK Ubuntu Talk
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS
> upgrade
> Sent: 4 May 2012 20:22
>
> On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote:
> > You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> > clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.
> um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to Quantal
> Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in development, which
> might not be what you are after.
>
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I believe that update-manager -d will take you to the next version / next
LTS version based on the version you are running, so I don't think there is
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

[Andy Braben]

On 4 May 2012 19:59, Dave Morley  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> On 04/05/12 19:48, Pete Smout wrote:
> > Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop
> > / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now),
> > yet the graphical update manager is not informing me that an
> > upgrade is possible even though I have it set to show LTS versions
> > only.
> >
> > If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but
> > no mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show
> > LTS versions only it still shows 10.10 as being available?
> >
> > Is this normal?
> >
> > Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know
> > but less knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the
> > LINUX world may be unaware / scared of this way of doing it.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.


I believe 12.04.1 will show in update manager when set to show LTS versions
only.

10.10 will show as the next version, upgrades jumping versions except LTS
to LTS are not supported, so 11.04 and 11.10 will not be shown.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

[Andy Braben]

On 2 May 2012 14:01, Paul Tansom  wrote:

> ** J Fernyhough  [2012-05-01 14:36]:
> > On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell 
> wrote:
> > > Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the
> > > repositories, be required to create a .desktop file?
> >
> > It's not that it should - it's that you should be able to switch to
> > that task using the Unity launcher.
> >
> > On 1 May 2012 14:12, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:
> > > Anyone got any workarounds/suggestions for this scenario?
> >
> > Does Alt-Tab work to select the minimised window? Does the window show
> > up in Expo (Super-W)?
> ** end quote [J Fernyhough]
>
> If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does
> nothing
> on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem
> to
> be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2
> screens, but I've had no luck so far :(
>
>
It shows a small view of all open apps, clicking any of what is shown will
open the app clicked.

I do not know if that works in 2D, but it does in 3D.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Duplicate sources list

[Andy Braben]

On 1 May 2012 16:53, Alan Pope  wrote:

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> On 01/05/12 04:02, scoundrel50a wrote:
> > thank you, if you could explain in simple terms so I can follow,
> > what if anything you work out I should change...
> >
>
> I have cleaned that up and put it here:-
>
> http://paste.ubuntu.com/960266/
>
> Do the following to replace it:-
>
> ALT+F2, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, press [Enter]
> In the text editor replace everything with the contents of the above
> website. Save the document then do your usual updates.
>
> Note: You need the 23 lines without any of the "Ubuntu pastebin" stuff
>

Line 14 should start deb-src not deb-srv   then all should be OK!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How have I killed my system?

[Andy Braben]

On 30 April 2012 21:12, Gareth France  wrote:

> Today my system (12.04) started bringing up the crash error message every
> 10 seconds or so. I tried to do updates and it says:
>
> Requires installation of untrusted packages
>
> The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenticated
> sources.
>
> In the details:
>
> apport apport-gtk liboil0.3 linux-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-24
> linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-24-**generic-pae
> linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-pae
> linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev
> python-apport python-problem-report sessioninstaller
>
> So how do I fix this?
>


I have found the "untrusted" message appear and cured it very easily. Go
into update manager, then do NOT update, check instead. Let the package
listings update then possibly an updated list of updates appear, and all
will be well - you will now be able to run "trusted" updates.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04 ....

[Andy Braben]

> People also need a clear warning to backup their system - we assume it's
> common sense, but apparently most don't.
>
>
>
People need a clear warning to backup their data (not system) at all times.
Not just when upgrading. I have never ever had a failure upgrading Debian
or Ubuntu - but I have had a hard disk failure which trashed my home
directory and a lot of data.

For me, all I had to do was get another hard disk, reinstall Ubuntu, and
restore a backup. Loss? Almost nothing.

Backing up is important and vital at all times - not just for an upgrade. I
do not have a lot of sympathy for users who never ever backup, and never
enters their heads to do so. To me it is vitally important - I keep backups
off site as well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cant open brasero

[Andy Braben]

> anybody know what that means, and if it cant be fixed is there another
> program to use that can burn images...
>
> Thanks
>
>
I can't help with what it means, but k3b is a very good program for burning
images, and my preference for anything to do with writing CDs/DVDs.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Ubuntu desktop annoyance ....

[Andy Braben]

On 22 March 2012 10:44, Barry Drake  wrote:

> On 22/03/12 10:24, Colin Law wrote:
>
>> OK, got it. I am seeing it if I view /usr/share/applications in nautilus
>> or if I copy a .desktop file to the Desktop from there. I would report it
>> as a bug in nautilus if not already reported. Colin
>>
>
> Thanks for that.  I've reported it at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/**
> ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+**bug/962051along
>  with links to screenshots.
>
> Kind regards,Barry.
>
>
That is a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/961141, which says
it affects 4 people, so you are not alone.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Configure Ubuntu to automatically mount all volumes at boot or login

[Andy Braben]

On 13 March 2012 15:14, Liam Proven  wrote:

> Reposted from Ubuntu-users, where nobody was able to even give me a
> pointer. Anyone here got any ideas?
>
> This used to be the default behaviour, IIRC.
>
> I keep a lot of non-critical stuff on a FAT32 volume shared with
> Windows. I have put it into /etc/fstab manually; this worked at first,
> but for some reason, it keeps mounting RO & I have to do a `sudo
> umount /dev/sdb6` command to unmount it, then use Nautilus to remount
> it for all users as RW.
>
> What I'd rather like is the way Ubuntu /used/ to handle this in years
> gone by: to just automatically mount all visible drives at boot time.
>
> I've Googled but I can't find an easy way of achieving this. Is there one?
>
> BTW, I don't mean to add them to /etc/fstab; I mean to just mount all
> visible volumes, even when these change.
>
> Local partitions are listed in Nautilus and just clicking them mounts them.

Network volumes I have bookmarked, so that just selecting the bookmark
mounts it.

Mounting all visible drives at mount time should be an easy setting, but I
wouldn't necessarily want it to be the default, as not everyone would have
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beeb@30

[Andy Braben]

Agreed that £78 for the event is extortion.
On Mar 9, 2012 10:10 PM, "Raf Czlonka"  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 09:46:45PM GMT, Rob Beard wrote:
> > On 09/03/12 21:22, Steve Pearce wrote:
> > >Evening folks.
> > >
> > >Is anybody from Ubuntu-UK attending Beeb@30?
> > >
> > >If so, I think it would be great to meet up over a lunch.
> > >
> > >Information about the event itself can be found at
> > >http://www.beeb30.org.uk and I believe tickets are still available.
> > >
> > >stevepdp
> > >
> >
> > I've have loved to attend but Cambridge is a bit far for me from
> > Devon, shame as it sounds interesting.
>
> I'm Cambridge local but I won't be attending - £78 is an extortion.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Plans (marketing)

[Andy Braben]

On 7 March 2012 20:05, Simon Greenwood  wrote:

>
> On Mar 7, 2012 7:07 PM, "alan c"  wrote:
> >
> > On 07/03/12 19:00, alan c wrote:
> > > But trust in strangers is not something that comes easy in a world
> > > full of scams.
> >
> > Correction
> > trust in strangers only comes easily if people have paid a lot of
> > money for a retail box!
> >
> > --
> PC World have sold both RedHat and SUSE in the past, probably not for a
> good 10 years though.
>
> s/
>
> And in early days of netbooks, they had some with Linpus (a chinese
version of Linux) on them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubiquity and ubuntuforums

[Andy Braben]

And so have I. Yes ubuntu forums are a very important source of useful
information and new users need to know that they exist.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Raspberry Pi

[Andy Braben]

On 29 February 2012 17:27, john beddard  wrote:

> This the breakthrough we needed !
>
>
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi&cm_mmc=UK-PPC-0212-_-02_Raspberry_PI-_-Raspberry_PI-_-Raspberry_Pi
>  


says Fedora

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17190334

says Debian.

I doubt if they have a full standard install of either operating system.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

[Andy Braben]

I will also add that I get on fine with Unity, as do people I support. It
is something completely different, but I find it intuitive and simple
enough to use. I rarely go searching through the dash for anything as all
apps I use, including terminal are located immediately on the left hand
bar. Simple.

I have also looked at Gnome 3 on Debian Testing and can get on with that OK
but prefer Unity.

Revert to Gnome 2 or change to something else? No thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity is not working.

[Andy Braben]

>
> The user of this system could be categorised as lazy, like my
> colleague the electrician, who "can't be bothered with it"
>
>
> It doesn't matter what operating system is being used, if a person is
being "lazy" and "can't be bothered with it" they won't be bothered by it
and won't install an application or setup a printer because it is beyond
them, or so they think.

If however they are full of enthusiasm and keen to learn, they will succeed
in installing some software, finding it, and running it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Num-lock always on .....

[Andy Braben]

On 16 February 2012 15:22, Barry Drake  wrote:

> On 16/02/12 15:16, Colin Law wrote:
>
>> .https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/**933059looks
>>  like it. I am seeing it too. Colin
>>
>
> Thanks.  Yes, that's the bug so I've confirmed it too.
>
>
> Regards,Barry.
>
>
The latest update includes gnome-settings-daemon which clears this problem.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless - Laptops

[Andy Braben]

On 15 February 2012 11:45, Sean Miller  wrote:

> On 15 February 2012 11:24, Simon Greenwood  wrote:
>
>> need either ndiswrapper or the firmware loading for them - I seem to
>> recall that this has been taken out of Ubuntu recently.
>>
>
> That was the sort of thing I thought it would probably be... the
> developers making things "cleaner" by removing stuff...
>
> I am not sure if I am dreaming but do I not remember that at one stage
> Ubuntu used to notice drivers it didn't have and offer to download/install
> them from the web?
>
> If I get the machine onto an RJ45 lead is there a possibility the OS could
> still do this?
>


Yes - Load "Additional Drivers" and if there are any missing, it should
hopefully search and offer to install. It is certainly worth a try.

Andy.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asterisk and getting a SIP number

[Andy Braben]

On 31 January 2012 15:39, Simon Greenwood  wrote:

>
>
> On 31 January 2012 15:25, bouncysteve  wrote:
>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> I got a number from sipgate and had a bit of a play. I found port 5060
>> blocked at work, and a 5 second delay when making a voip call over 3G.
>> Perhaps not ready for prime time yet.
>>
>>
> Really not true - for one, phone companies aren't exactly anxious to let
> you use SIP over 3G, and work has every right to block ports like that.
> There are plenty of businesses who use SIP extensively. I'd admit you don't
> get the best experience on your phone for any app, but try it at home on
> your own router and using your laptop or asterisk or just on your phone -
> cabled is also better than wifi. This sort of thing is probably why SIP on
> the desktop tends to have fallen to an object that looks and acts
> suspiciously like a POTS phone...
>

I know that T-Mobile block SIP over 3G - Try a call and it will disconnect
after 10 seconds. Read their T&C's and it says that SIP and wifi tethering
are both banned, but wifi tethering works perfectly.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommendations for a printer?

[Andy Braben]

On 22 January 2012 19:45, alan c  wrote:

> On 22/01/12 13:34, Liam Proven wrote:
> > I've tried a couple of Kodaks and they worked well too, once the
> > specific driver was installed - which was a battle as Kodak don't make
> > them readily available. Kodak have some of the cheapest ink around, I
> > believe.
>
> Kodak have recently filed for bankrupcy
>
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>
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>
> And since Kodak have filed for bankruptcy, they are trying to recoup some
money by suing Samsung over image patents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16631710

It's not the end of Kodak just yet.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Precise

[Andy Braben]

Try downloading Alpha 1 and install it. Then download all the updates. I
have tried daily builds in the past always unsuccessfully but never failed
with any of the alpha or beta versions.

Regards,
Andy.

On 12 January 2012 23:29, Pete Smout  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just upgraded the HDD in my laptop and decided to reinstall ubuntu, so I
> went for the daily build of 12.04.
>
> Although this is still in the Alpha test stage and issues are to be
> expected, the issue I encountered was that it would not install!
>
> It got to the point of asking to install updates during install and third
> party software, (good idea!) and just hung there for 2.5 hrs (so was a hang
> not a delay).
>
> has anyone had any joy with this or is it just me with this bizzare issue?
>
> regards
>
> Pete
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade

[Andy Braben]

On 5 January 2012 13:11, scoundrel50a  wrote:

>  I wondered about that, is there anyway to change it?
>

You'll need to press whatever buttons you have on your monitor to make that
adjustment.

Andy.

>
>
>
> On 05/01/12 12:59, Andy Braben wrote:
>
>
>
> On 5 January 2012 12:55, scoundrel50a  wrote:
>
>>  In 11.10 it doesnt give you that option, but to make sure, I just tried
>> it again, and nothing happened.
>>
>> Funny thing though, as I was trying along all the top panel to left/right
>> click, I took the curser right to the right edge of the window, and right
>> clicked, by accident, and low and behold, the drop down menu
>> appeared.how do I get it to show..
>>
>>
>
> That is probably down to your monitor not showing the right hand side of
> the screen, nothing to do with Ubuntu not showing the button.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade

[Andy Braben]

On 5 January 2012 12:55, scoundrel50a  wrote:

>  In 11.10 it doesnt give you that option, but to make sure, I just tried
> it again, and nothing happened.
>
> Funny thing though, as I was trying along all the top panel to left/right
> click, I took the curser right to the right edge of the window, and right
> clicked, by accident, and low and behold, the drop down menu
> appeared.how do I get it to show..
>
>

That is probably down to your monitor not showing the right hand side of
the screen, nothing to do with Ubuntu not showing the button.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommendations for a printer? HPLIP

[Andy Braben]

2012/1/4 Juan J. 

> On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 18:10 +0000, Andy Braben wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > Is that not worth a bug report? HPLIP package not kept up to date on
> > automatic updates?
>
> That's a very good point. There's a policy about updates after a
> release:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
>
> Should HPLIP be listed in the special cases? Well I think it probably
> should as the wiki above says:
>

For Long Term Support releases we regularly want to enable new hardware.
Such changes are appropriate provided that we can ensure to not affect
upgrades on existing hardware. For example, modaliases of newly introduced
drivers must not overlap with previously shipped drivers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommendations for a printer? HPLIP

[Andy Braben]

I also would favour HP at first, regardless of other factors, because
> of their close relationship with the FOSS drivers. The wrapped drivers
> package I think called HPLIP is installed in Ubuntu by default, or so
> it has seemed to me anyway. However a problem I have found, via a
> novice friend who went out and and bought himself a new (end of line)
> all in one HP printer was that the regular updates in Ubuntu do not
> seem to pick up the latest HPLIP by a long way. This meant that my
> novice but stolid friend found it did not work in Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
> (updated) and was then in conversation with the given support phone
> number (HP) for long conversations. As I discovered later, he had
> downloaded the latest HPLIP, manually, multiple times within the
> support conversation (7 times I think!) but he had not been able to
> successfully complete the subsequent instructions,  until the HP
> support politely gave up saying they did not really support Linux on
> that line. Kudos to them to persist that long!!
>
> Removing the old HPLIP in his Ubuntu and installing the new one
> manually was not difficult for me but it was way above my friend.
> However if the HPLIP was kept more up to date in the repos it would
> have gone along easily and probably automatically.
>
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>


Is that not worth a bug report? HPLIP package not kept up to date on
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu - Wrong Direction?

[Andy Braben]

>
>
> > I think the big failing was not to prepare people for Unity and to give
> > little help when it hit them.  There was a lot of discussion about
> providing
> > some transitional help by way of default Unity Help on the desktop or a
> Tip
> > of the Day facility, but nothing came of it.  So now we are facing the
> next
> > big migration to Unity, when people upgrade from 10.04LTS to 12.04LTS,
> this
> > is going to happen all over again.  Shame.
>
> I think you're right. What do you reckon anyone could do to help?
>
> Is help needed?

I have a friend who is non-techie, used Windows at work, and as he did some
personal work at work after hours had no need for a computer at home, and
then got made redundant. I had to supply him with a computer and before
handing it over left Windows as a small partition, and installed Ubuntu
10.10 (which was current at the time).

He gets on very well with Ubuntu. When he bought a Brother printer, the CD
that came with it just came up with an error message on Windows 7, but no
problem connecting it on Ubuntu. That was a pleasant experience for him,
and a good laugh for me. He has upgraded himself to 11.04, then 11.10 with
no help from me. His view on Unity is that it takes longer to find
applications, but just gets on with being a non-techie user doing what he
wants and needs to do.

He has found a couple of problems with 11.10 but nothing severe that can't
easily be dealt with. I have been able to replicate them and I have checked
that they have been bug-reported.

My only wish is that I had wiped the drive completely as he doesn't use
Windows at all.

I have other people using Ubuntu 10.04LTS under my guidance, and I expect
similar - "it's different but I can still get on with life" type comments
back when they are upgraded to 12.04LTS.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Ubuntu in China and Portugal

[Andy Braben]

On 21 November 2011 14:25, Tony Pursell  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> The old Netbook Remix, I think.  Why not Unity?  Perhaps they want to stay
> with 10.04LTS.
>
>
> The Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 was NOT LTS, only had an 18 month life
which has now expired. I never knew it was not LTS until I read that it has
reached its end of life.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem when powering off - suspend light flashing

[Andy Braben]

On 16 November 2011 15:22, Jon Reynolds wrote:

> On Wed, November 16, 2011 10:10, Barry Drake wrote:
> >
> > Curiously, I experienced the same problem exactly, just twice, on a
> > Samsung N150 Netbook with 11.10.  The only way out was to unplug the
> > battery for ten seconds.  Nothing else got any response.
> >
> > Regards,Barry.
> >
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> > http://ubuntuadverts.org/
> >
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>
> And curiously still, I have a Samsung N130 running 11,10 which recently,
> when shut down, exhibits similar behaviour. It goes to the text screen,
> where it says it is stopping services etc., but then hangsif I haven't
> noticed, the battery eventually runs out. But I can force it to shut down
> by holding the power button.
>
> Maybe there is some funny bug in the shut down procedure?
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>
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> 
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>


Maybe it has nothing whatsoever to do with the shutdown procedure that is
causing the problem.

OK I have an Acer Revo which nobody is talking about, but these hang on
10.04 and 10.10 (and presumably later, but upgrades haven't had the problem
reoccurring).

This problem was caused by the wifi driver. The resolution was to add
"blacklist rt2800pci" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

I have no idea if that will solve your problem, but as with my issue, it
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] update manager

[Andy Braben]

> Do you see anything odd if you do
> > sudo apt-get update
>
> Yes:-
>
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric InRelease
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/main TranslationIndex
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/restricted TranslationIndex
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/main Translation-en_GB
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/main Translation-en
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/restricted Translation-en_GB
> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)
> oneiric/restricted Translation-en
>
> This is then followed by a lot of stuff all referring to natty. Does
> this help?
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> Can you post the contents of
/etc/apt/sources.list ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] update manager

[Andy Braben]

Did you select the option to upgrade to 11.10 rather than update packages
for 11.04?
On 11 Nov 2011 14:27, "Norman Silverstone"  wrote:

> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 and, today, ran Update Manager. The usual window
> appeared with a list of updates and I selected install updates. I
> entered my password and a small window appeared which,amongst other
> things, said what looked like Downloaded 0 B of 1 B. After a little
> while, another window appeared and I was asked to insert a CD/DVD'Ubuntu
> 11.10_Oneiric Ocelot_-Release i386 (20111012)' and given the choice to
> Cancel or Continue. As I have no idea what this is all about I chose
> Cancel and the window for Update Manager re-appeared with the list of
> packages to be installed and any attempt to install updates starts the
> cycle over again.
>
> Could someone please tell me what I need to do to be able to install the
> updates.
>
> Norman
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - Secure Boot Problems for Linux Users Are Here Already

[Andy Braben]

I would also think it unlikely to be UEFI that is causing the problem.

I came across an occurrence some years ago, where I could not get an Ubuntu
CD to boot up despite setting the BIOS. There turned out to be some weird
configuration of key presses necessary when booting up at the BIOS stage.

More recently I was trying to put Ubuntu on a modern Toshiba netbook. It
didn't matter what I did, it just would not boot up from an image on a
flash drive. I was on the verge of giving up but decided to try with a CD
in a USB connected drive. That worked.

Andy.

On 30 October 2011 16:22, Michael Holmes  wrote:

> On 30 October 2011 15:19, alan c  wrote:
>
> > ... “My friend recently got an HP s5-1110 with Win 7 installed.
> > UEFI has prevented the installation of GRUB on this machine.
>
> This is going to happen even if you don't have Secure Boot. UEFI and
> BIOS *do not* have compatible boot systems. You need a UEFI compatible
> bootloader like eLILO or a UEFI compatible version of GRUB - which as
> far as I know, doesn't ship with Ubuntu by default. Since there have
> been workarounds on most systems as of date that allow UEFI systems to
> run BIOS bootloaders, such as Boot Camp on Intel Macs or a "BIOS Mode"
> on most PC motherboards, it's generally not been necessary to include
> a UEFI bootloader with Ubuntu.
>
> This wiki page might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
>
> But what you need to know is that this probably isn't the Secure Boot
> lockout everyone has been worrying about. As far as I know the Windows
> 7 bootloader isn't signed for Secure Boot (but I could be wrong).
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recovery with live CD

[Andy Braben]

After other comments here: does gksudo nautilus work?
>
YES

> Also - is nautilus still used in Ubuntu 11.10?
>
YES

>
> In a live session - iirc, then in a terminal, just
> su
> will raise you to superuser level I think, then , to start (nautilus) just
> nautilus
> (??)
>

YES, but that is the same as "sudo nautilus" which should be avoided as
already stated.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Most used version of Ubuntu

[Andy Braben]

> 
>>
>
> Alan - That is quite interesting.
>
> Gordon - Yes perhaps 10.04 is the most commonly used on that basis, by the
> way, Google reported your message with this "This message may not have been
> sent by: gbpli...@gmail.com  Learn 
> more
>   Report phishing"
>
>
> Best Regards
>
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I get quite a few users of this list that show "This message may not have
been sent by:"

It's only happened for the past few weeks, and seems to be Google getting it
wrong.


It really seems impossible to me to be able to work out any form of ubuntu
stats as it is free software and anyone can do what the hell they like with
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slow d/loads

[Andy Braben]

>
> Do have any wiring you have put in yourself between the BT master socket
> and the router? If you do, then can you connect direct to the master socket?
> If you can, and it is still slow, then it is down to BT to fix the fault at
> no charge to you.
>
>
Not correct if the router is faulty.

As far as I am aware, there is no way to tell (if running from the master
socket) if the router or the line is at fault, unless another router has
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

[Andy Braben]

On 15 July 2011 13:22, steve  wrote:

>  On 15/07/11 13:06, Paul Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> anyone got any experience of the a
> Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop
>
> with 11.04
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/261508
>
>
> i have googled and its come up with mixed reviews some saying it hangs on
> shutdown and other issues right up to hardly any issues.
>
> i will mainly use it for
>
> web browsing (i have  flash but also flash block)
> e-mail
> open / libreoffice
> some of the games  such as glest, open arena etc that comes with ubuntu
> i also use software such as scratch
>
> so nothing that is going to be too demanding,  my older dell 10v can cope
> with the above so with ion 2 (assuming that it is supported by nvidia
> drivers) should give better performance.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
I have experience of the Acer Aspire Revos, and they really are excellent
machines and run Ubuntu very well.

The only downside is needing proprietary NVidea drivers, but these do work
well.

The shut down problem is very easily solved once and for all as already
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

[Andy Braben]

On 16 May 2011 21:44, Colin Law  wrote:

>
> This is a Unity question, not FF.  I am enquiring as to the best way
> to switch between windows within one app using Unity.  This was with
> respect to Alan's point that one could just select the other window
> rather than sliding the front one aside.  With the classic interface
> one could do this via the bottom panel (one click).  With Unity, to
> switch between open apps one can click the button on the launcher but
> I have not found a quick way to switch between multiple windows open
> for one app.  Generally I like Unity, though it is essential I think
> to learn the hot keys, but the multiple-windows-for-one-app problem is
> one that I am having trouble with.
>
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I generally use Alt+Tab. These days having a graphical view of the open
windows on the dialog, it makes it very easy to know when to let go for the
window that you want.

I like Unity as well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bonding 3G connections.

[Andy Braben]

Can't see how that would work. I could only imagine it picking up the first
3G device it finds.

Andy.
On 3 Apr 2011 21:28, "Tim Dobson"  wrote:
> Hey hey,
>
> Just wondered, does anyone have any experience or has seen any blogs
> posts of anyone bonding two or more 3G connections so they can
> aggregate the bandwidth?
>
> If you've seen or heard of anyone doing this I'd be interested to know
> any hints on how they went about it. :)
>
> cheers,
>
> Tim
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] RSI

[Andy Braben]

A relative of mine gets RSI pains when using a mouse for just a few minutes.
She just can not use one.

However she gets on very well with a pen and tablet no problem at all, and
using it on Ubuntu right back to 5.10 and onwards and upwards has never been
a problem at all with it.

Regards,
Andy.

On 25 March 2011 16:22, Simon Greenwood  wrote:

>
>
> On 25 March 2011 16:14, Jon Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Am sure as all of you are computer users, some probably quite prolific (as
>> coders etc), that some of you have had experience with RSI.
>>
>> I have had a bad wrist for a few years now on and off. It always seemed to
>> go away but recently (last 4-6months) it seems to be here and not going
>> away.
>>
>> Basically I get a pain in the inside corner of my wrist when it is bent
>> back, i.e. in a position to do push ups. I cannot push things (e.g. doing
>> push ups) without it hurting and shaking it (shaking inside-out socks) hurts
>> too.
>>
>> I have tried wearing a wrist strap (like a sports one) for the last few
>> weeks but it doesn't seem to be making much difference.
>>
>> I am a CAD user by day, which is very mouse-dependant, but also do an
>> amount of typing, but I think the mouse usage is the main culprit as its
>> always semi-hovering as I manoeuvre the mouse.
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone else has had experiences like this and how they
>> got rid of it? Maybe those little cushioned mouse mats, where you rest your
>> wrist on a small cushion would help.
>>
>>
> There are lots of things you can try: make sure that you're sitting at a
> comfortable angle (I had this a while ago because my seat was too low); try
> a wrist rest, either as part of a mouse mat or separately; if all else
> fails, consider an alternative pointing device like a trackball or even a
> graphics pad.
>
> s/
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] buying a laptop?

[Andy Braben]

On 17 January 2011 11:05, Sean Miller  wrote:

> On 17 January 2011 10:59, Jon Spriggs  wrote:
>
>>
>> Less taxes, oh and paying the person who's installing Linux. And the HR
>> person who's making sure they're doing everything right by the person. And
>> electricity, to, you know, keep the building running while they're doing the
>> installations. Oh, Buildings? Rent, council tax, etc. Heaven forbid? That
>> £50/machine profit suddenly becomes £10/machine loss, if you're lucky, and
>> probably a LOT worse.
>>
>> Sadly, I made the same sort of mistake in my GCSE Business Studies
>> coursework 17 years ago, except my genius plan was to build custom-made
>> machines from parts sourced from shops. The fact of the matter is that
>> simply going in and asking for 50 machines, while it might have worked for
>> Michael Dell (who did something similar with IBM to start out), isn't going
>> to cut it in today's 1/2% margin markets
>>
>
> Okay, so you're now talking different things... because you're suggesting
> that sourcing the parts, assembling them etc. costs less than £250
> (including VAT)??
>
> Do you know this?
>
> If not, why don't these people get the machines pre-assembled from PC World
> or whatever?  Probably find they'd do them for £200, so that's a potential
> £100 mark-up AND they don't have to bother doing any assembly.
>
> You can automate it, because you know the specification of the hardware.
>
> "Installing Linux" will merely be a 5-minute disc image copy, hardly
> resource-intensive is it?
>
> Or have I missed something??
>
> Sean
>
>
Advertising has certainly been missed which is expensive. And also who would
buy these products? Members on this list might, but as most people know
nothing different to Microsoft and even if they do, don't want it. It is not
something that I would see as profitable.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] buying a laptop?

[Andy Braben]

On 16 January 2011 17:42, Kingsid3 .  wrote:

> If it were me i'd just look for a laptop that i like. 98% of things
> can be fixed IMO with some terminal fun :)
>
> Whats your budget?
>
> Simon
>
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:39 PM, George Tripp 
> wrote:
> > Up to now I've put Ubuntu on ancient PCs I already had. Currently I'm
> thinking
> > about getting a laptop but don't want to spend my hard earned cash find
> I've
> > bought something that can't run the operating system I wish to.
> >
> > Looked at a couple of companies which will sell machines without any op
> system.
> > Pcspecialists: apparently there's a problem that the touchhpad doesn't
> work with
> > ubuntu
> > Novatech: don't know if their hardware is compatible with ubuntu or not
> >
> > Looked round PC World a few machines there look reasonable spec/price but
> don't
> > appear on the Ubuntu-certified hardware list.
> >
> > What do other people do? Any advice?
>


I have had no problems or issues at all putting Ubuntu on Acer products. I
certainly have not had "terminal fun" with them!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] natty with unity

[Andy Braben]

On 13 January 2011 19:47, gazz  wrote:

>  About to write something for a VCS ICT mag about Ubuntu so thought I'd
> have a look at Natty - umm, not a big fan of Unity, ugly and ridiculously
> limited - wot, can't add stuff to the panel - what's the one at the top
> actually doing besides wasting space and telling me the time and that' I'm
> networked? Can't add move a panel? Hmmm.
>
> I'll concede that it might work well for people who want their puters to be
> toasters but please God don't stop offering GNOME shell alternative!
>
> Paula
>
>

Sounds like it hasn't improved from 10.10 netbook then.  Just as well Gnome
was there, otherwise I would have said goodbye to Ubuntu on the netbook, and
I certainly don't want Unity on the desktop unless it has vastly improved.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux expo in Feb 2011

[Andy Braben]

On 8 January 2011 00:04, alan c  wrote:

> On 07/01/11 12:50, David King wrote:
>
>> Anyone going to the Linux&  Open Source Expo in London on 2-3 Feb 2011?
>> http://www.opensourceexpo.co.uk/
>>
>
> I had not heard about this is it very recent information?
>
> I would love to run a FLOSS  stand based on the Infopoint brand I use
>  regularly at PC fairs local to me
> http://infopointproject.org/wordpress/materials/infopoint-guide/
>
> That is, assuming that applications for .org village are not too late now?
> But I do not think I can run it single handed. I could not arrive before
> mid morning for example. Any thoughts? My Infopoint display is rather Ubuntu
> centric. Are any Ubuntu related stands going to be there. Share maybe?
>
> I recall that because Ubuntu is 'Sponsored', at Linux Live Olympia a few
> years ago, it was not possible for a Ubuntu display without full commercial
> payment. An Infopoint display would be convenient for this.
> Comments please?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] no title bars on windows

[Andy Braben]

I once had something similar on an old PC. However opening an application
would open top left only covering up the menu, without a title bar, stopping
you from opening another application.

A workaround on every boot was to open terminal first, type "sudo metacity
--replace" which would then realign terminal properly with a title bar under
the main menu. The permanent fix was to replace the old graphics card.

Not sure that you're experiencing exactly the same problem, but it might be
worth trying the command I used.

Regards,
Andy.

On 31 December 2010 12:25, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:

> having recently uninstalled Plymouth (it was becoming annoying) I
> reboot only to discover that the title bars of all of my windows have
> dissapeared. I can open programs but not close, minimise or resize
> them.
> could plymouth have affected this and how do I get them back.
> screenshot: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5919/screenshoturx.png
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a two hard drive dock

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On 24 November 2010 15:10, Liam Proven  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Andy Braben  wrote:
>> I have an external hard disk with bootable ubuntu on it, and I can
>> boot that and use it perfectly connected only via USB. There is no
>> mains power that can be attached to it.
>
> What size hard disk drive does it have in it? Not capacity, physical
> drive size. I am betting it's 2½".
>
> 3½" hard disk drives draw too much power to run them off USB alone.
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Yes it is 2.5".

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommend a two hard drive dock

[Andy Braben]

I have an external hard disk with bootable ubuntu on it, and I can
boot that and use it perfectly connected only via USB. There is no
mains power that can be attached to it.

Regards,
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On 24 November 2010 13:55, javadayaz  wrote:
> can anyone else confirm that?
> maybe there is a device out there that might be able to.?
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Simon Greenwood 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24 November 2010 13:32, javadayaz  wrote:
>>>
>>> so all hd docks use an external power source..that i didnt know!
>>>
>>
>> In my experience you can *usually* power one hard drive from USB, but not
>> two.
>>
>> s/
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Special bugs, and Live CDs. Help with this Bug please?

[Andy Braben]

I have to say that I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a different partition
on the same disk as Windows XP and all went very smoothly with no
problems at all.

I can only ascertain from this that only certain hardware is affected.

Regards,
Andy.

On 12 November 2010 10:11, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 12 November 2010 09:57, Liam Proven  wrote:
>> Yes, but *what* particular sequence? Nobody has yet spelled it out,
>> AFAICS. I'd like to know so I can avoid it!
>>
>
> It's detailed in the bug report linked to in the first mail.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

[Andy Braben]

On 10 October 2010 19:50, Tyler J. Wagner  wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 16:55 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> It's very easy:
>>       * Go to www.hsbc.co.uk (so now you know what bank I'm talking
>>         about)
>>       * Click the "Log on" button in the "Business" box on the right
>>
>> At that point, it should take you to a login page but in my case it just
>> takes me to a blank page.
>
> It loads fine for me as well, on Ubuntu 10.04 amd64 with Firefox 3.6.10
> and a whole pile of add-ons enabled.
>
> Tyler

It works fine for me as well with FF3.6.10 and I use it regularly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[Andy Braben]

Well I am still lost as to where this event is happening.

Regards,
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On 29 September 2010 13:35, pmgazz  wrote:
> It's not on the right day and has a different 'slant' (the VCS wouldn't
> 'get' an install fest) but we're doing a day workshop showing charities and
> community orgs how to install Ubuntu and do basic admin tasks on the 12th.
> http://fb-resilience.eventbrite.com/
>
> We're providing laptops for people to practice on but people can also bring
> their own.
>
> If anyone (with lots of patience) wants to come along and help, it'd be much
> appreciated.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Package Installs

[Andy Braben]

That's interesting as my grub.cfg file has not been modified during
this mornings upgrade.

What happens if you run "sudo update-grub"?



On 18 September 2010 18:34, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> update manager just does the same thing, tries to install the linux-image,
> and hangs when generating the grub conf
>
> On 18 September 2010 18:20, Andy Braben  wrote:
>>
>> I successfully run a standard update this morning to 2.6.32-24.
>>
>> Maybe run update manager, then try and install a package?
>>
>>
>> On 18 September 2010 17:31, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
>> > anybody else noticing synaptic/dpgk forcing installation of
>> > linux-image2.6.32-24-generic when trying to install a package? well it's
>> > happening on my main desktop but whenever it tries to install it always
>> > hangs at creating grub.cfg, so effectively I cannot install any
>> > packages.
>> > this a major problem for me. anybody know any solutions/workarounds?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Package Installs

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I successfully run a standard update this morning to 2.6.32-24.

Maybe run update manager, then try and install a package?


On 18 September 2010 17:31, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> anybody else noticing synaptic/dpgk forcing installation of
> linux-image2.6.32-24-generic when trying to install a package? well it's
> happening on my main desktop but whenever it tries to install it always
> hangs at creating grub.cfg, so effectively I cannot install any packages.
> this a major problem for me. anybody know any solutions/workarounds?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pasting home directory into new and version upgrade installs?

[Andy Braben]

On 18 September 2010 16:40, Will Bickerstaff  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Alan Lord (News)  
> wrote:
>
>> All good questions and I think we should provide you a decent answer
>> that is a foolproof as can be.
>>
>> Wiki?
> Definitely a topic worth a wiki page. As you say Alan, these are all
> good questions that don't have obvious answers to those that 'don't
> get it', and none of them are uncommon. In fact they are all
> reasonable questions that anyone about to undertake an upgrade
> probably should be asking, and finding out what will happen before
> starting.
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Well I have done two upgrades from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS. One was a
straight upgrade through the update manager which worked flawlessly.

The second was where the home directory was on a separate partition,
and the system partition was not large enough to house the temporary
file structure during upgrade, so I did a clean install of 10.04LTS
over 8.04LTS which formatted the system partition and preserved the
home directory which did leave a couple of problems.

The first was the top right hand corner of the top panel was totally
missing the network icon (although connectivity was working perfectly
through ethernet cable, the gwibber icon was missing (maybe a good
thing going by recent posts!) and there was no restart/shutdown icon.
"Add to panel" sorted out that issue.

The second problem was Firefox was reporting flash not installed, even
though it was. This was a more taxing issue. After scratching my head
a few times and trying a few things, I created a new account on the
machine, and flash worked perfectly with that account. So I had to
back up bookmarks, delete ~/.firefox, restore bookmarks, then all was
well. A complaint was made shortly after that history and cookies had
disappeared for good.

I doubt if anything other than the default install and Gimp is on this
machine, so someone doing a similar upgrade with a host of other
applications, including some KDE apps like I have, may hit other
additional problems upgrading by formatting.

Having used Ubuntu since 6.06LTS and upgraded every six months through
every distribution by the standard method, I don't think I have hit
any issues to report.

I think a wiki could be very useful, but there are bound to be
different issues formatting upgrading between different versions.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does a hard shutdown actually damage anything?

[Andy Braben]

Ctrl+Alt+Del, comes up with a dialog box where you can select
"shutdown". Selecting "shutdown" will shutdown the computer neatly and
switch it off. No need to switch it off yourself.

On 3 September 2010 11:35, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> using CTRL+ALT+DEL would work, just kill the power when the bios runs again
>
> On 3 September 2010 11:21, Andy Braben  wrote:
>>
>> Having had someone mention this problem to me and solved it via a hard
>> shut down, my advice was to NEVER hard shutdown, but to press
>> ctrl+alt+delete and select shutdown from the dialog box that appears.
>> That worked perfectly and seems to be the simplest option which does
>> not involve the command line. However another command line option is
>> simply "sudo poweroff".
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andy.
>>
>> On 3 September 2010 10:51, Rowan Berkeley 
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:01:28 +0100, John Matthews 
>> > wrote:
>> >>   On 03/09/10 09:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > Once again I lost my shutdown function; not only did shutdown vanish
>> >> > from my main menu, but when I added the Session Indicator Applet to
>> >> > the panel, the shutdown option on this did not work either; only the
>> >> > user switcher option worked. Therefore, I had to shutdown by
>> >> > pressing and holding the power button. This being the second time
>> >> > this has happened, I should like to know, what are the dangers of
>> >> > doing a hard shutdown? Thanks, Rowan
>> >>
>> >> This has happened to me on a couple of occasions, and not sure why.
>> >> But I got around a hard shut down, by clicking on switching user, and
>> >> on the sign in page, you have the option there in the right hand
>> >> corner of restart, or shutting down and other options. At least mine
>> >> does. As for the loss of the button, I did sudo aptitude update then
>> >> sudo aptitude upgrade, and it seemed to bring the button and options
>> >> back. Have no idea if it was the right thing to do, but that worked
>> >> for me. John.
>> >
>> > On this last occasion I got to the sign in page (what I referred to as
>> > the 'user switcher' above) and the shutdown from there didn't work
>> > either. This suggests to me that it isn't just a matter of some
>> > particular menu item, link, launcher or button pointing to the shutdown
>> > sequence vanishing, it is the ability to shutdown itself, from anywhere
>> > in the GUI, that vanishes. I shall certainly use "sudo shutdown -h now"
>> > if/when it happens in future. Thanks to all.
>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does a hard shutdown actually damage anything?

[Andy Braben]

Having had someone mention this problem to me and solved it via a hard
shut down, my advice was to NEVER hard shutdown, but to press
ctrl+alt+delete and select shutdown from the dialog box that appears.
That worked perfectly and seems to be the simplest option which does
not involve the command line. However another command line option is
simply "sudo poweroff".

Regards,
Andy.

On 3 September 2010 10:51, Rowan Berkeley  wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:01:28 +0100, John Matthews 
> wrote:
>>   On 03/09/10 09:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Once again I lost my shutdown function; not only did shutdown vanish
>> > from my main menu, but when I added the Session Indicator Applet to
>> > the panel, the shutdown option on this did not work either; only the
>> > user switcher option worked. Therefore, I had to shutdown by
>> > pressing and holding the power button. This being the second time
>> > this has happened, I should like to know, what are the dangers of
>> > doing a hard shutdown? Thanks, Rowan
>>
>> This has happened to me on a couple of occasions, and not sure why.
>> But I got around a hard shut down, by clicking on switching user, and
>> on the sign in page, you have the option there in the right hand
>> corner of restart, or shutting down and other options. At least mine
>> does. As for the loss of the button, I did sudo aptitude update then
>> sudo aptitude upgrade, and it seemed to bring the button and options
>> back. Have no idea if it was the right thing to do, but that worked
>> for me. John.
>
> On this last occasion I got to the sign in page (what I referred to as
> the 'user switcher' above) and the shutdown from there didn't work
> either. This suggests to me that it isn't just a matter of some
> particular menu item, link, launcher or button pointing to the shutdown
> sequence vanishing, it is the ability to shutdown itself, from anywhere
> in the GUI, that vanishes. I shall certainly use "sudo shutdown -h now"
> if/when it happens in future. Thanks to all.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] loco logo

[Andy Braben]

And I prefer the lower case as well. However I think the logo would
look better if it is bottom aligned.

Regards,
Andy.

On 31 July 2010 17:25, Yorvyk  wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:54:36 +0100
> Alan Bell  wrote:
> 
>>
>> just for completeness, and to show how totally wrong it looks here it is
>> with uk in lower case.
>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uuk/logo4.svg
>>
> Seriously, I rather like the lower case uk.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

[Andy Braben]

On 3 June 2010 13:31, micheal harker  wrote:
> Hi Ubuntu UK Team!
> Last Night in the meeting It was decided we are going
> to re-brand ubuntu-uk.org so I have made some mockups. Each Mocup has
> different ideas but with similar layouts.
> Mockup 1: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup1.png
> Mockup 2: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup2.png
> Mockup 3: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup3.png
> Mockup 4: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup4.png
> Mockup 5: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup5.png
> Mockup 6: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup6.png
> lets narrow it down to 3 ideas. I will make live demos of the Site then we
> will vote for the final one.
> Micheal H
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I can only go for #1. I don't like the others - sorry.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing on a USB drive

[Andy Braben]

On 2 February 2010 12:32, Keith Powell  wrote:
> In my previous computer (built locally and modified over the years by
> me), I had fitted a second IDE hard drive. The first drive had XP
> installed and the second had Linux installed. (I tried other distros on
> it, but ended up with Ubuntu).
>
> My new, rather expensive, computer has only one hard drive and that has
> Windows7 pre-installed with a 'rescue partition'.
>
> Now, the insurance/support policy I have on the new computer (I didn't
> bother with one on the old machine) states that I can't modify the
> computer in any way. I must get a computer repair person, which they
> nominate, to do any work inside the machine.
>
> I don't want to try dual booting by putting Ubuntu on the same hard
> drive as Windows7, but would rather keep it separate. My thoughts are to
> install it on an external USB hard drive.
>
> Would I simply plug the drive in, boot the computer, run the liveCD and
> install it as I would with an internal hard drive? I have read postings
> about installing to a USB memory card, which seems rather complicated,
> needing special programs to do it. So I am wondering if installing to a
> hard drive would be easier. The drive would only be used with this machine.
>
> To clarify, I would like to actually install Ubuntu on the drive, not
> use the drive as a USB version of a liveCD.
>
> Many thanks for any advice.
>
> Cheers
>
> Keith
>
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I have an external hard drive with ubuntu on it. I can plug it into
any PC which has a BIOS which will allow you to boot up from USB
(which is any 21st Century BIOS, I think). I can then use Ubuntu on a
machine with Vista on it, and be productive rather than waiting ages
to boot Vista up and try anything else on it.

Using a computer with 2 USB sockets, you can have the ubuntu install
on a usb pen drive, and install straight onto a USB external hard
disk.

Regards,
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