Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?

[Nicolas Cueto]

> Have you checked QuickTime effects?

 I think Rev's QT effects are for card transitions only, but I'm
looking for an image effect.

Thanks all the same, Devin.

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Re: [OT] 3d flip effect?

[Devin Asay]

On May 17, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Anyone know how to or what software can create a 3D flip effect of an image?
> 
> For example, a coin showing heads flips to show tails, or a navigation
> tile showing a left-arrow flips to show a right-arrow? And all with a
> 3D illusion!

Nicolas,

Have you checked QuickTime effects? ('answer effects' in the message box will 
bring up a dialog where you can see them.) Failing that, if you are on Mac OS X 
there may be a Core Image effect that will do it.

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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[OT] 3d flip effect?

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello,

Anyone know how to or what software can create a 3D flip effect of an image?

For example, a coin showing heads flips to show tails, or a navigation
tile showing a left-arrow flips to show a right-arrow? And all with a
3D illusion!

Sorry.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Mark Wieder]

Jim-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:33:09 PM, you wrote:

> www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/SmartSearch.rev

Nice and fast, but really hasn't kept up with the times. To get it to
work with modern versions of rev (3.5 and up), change the last line of
the mouseup handler in the "Edit Script" button to

select line tLineNo of fld "Script" of stack "revNewScriptEditor 1"

or better yet, switch on the version

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Adding to standard dialogs

[Paul D. DeRocco]

Is there any way to modify the standard file open/save dialogs, to add
things like checkboxes?

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Trying to get my head around process...

[planix]

Hi,

I must be at a loose end because I have some time to play around with things
that I think I will need in later rev projects. Perhaps it is still beyond
me as I am still pretty new with runrev. Anyway, I wonder if I am getting
this right.

I want to understand how to use the process commands. Windows XP and runrev
4.0. So, I thought I'd start with something I know a bit about- ping. I put
the following into the message box (multiple lines);

put "cmd.exe" into tMyProcess
open process tMyProcess for text update
write "ping www.google.com.au" to tMyProcess
read from process tMyProcess until end
put it
kill process tMyProcess

... and ran into several problems

1) Nothing showed up in the message box response, so the put obviously
didn't work
2) Nothing was echoed to the cmd prompt window but I sort of didn't expect
it would
3) The cmd prompt window did not disappear and the process wasn't killed or
closed
4) I couldn't use the runrev IDE at all and had to quit and restart

I guess this means that I don't really understand this at all.

yet if I do this...


put "ping www.google.com.au" into tWords
put shell(tWords)


I get the expected response. So, at least I may be understanding the shell
command. Nonetheless, I would like to get a handle on using the process
commands.

Anyone have some examples or thoughts on my simpl(istic)e attempt at this?

cheers
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Jerry Daniels]

William,

There are docs for the tRev plugins on our site. Look on the right  
side of main page.


Those docs have the names of all the tRev fields and some basic built- 
in services. What you want to do, however, can be done by just getting  
the text from the field "source", munging it and then selecting the  
first line that has an orphaned "put" statement. Keep it simple.


Also. when you are in tRev, use the Plugins menu to create a plugin.  
You'll see comments in the base code of a blank plugin that is helpful.



Best,

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On May 17, 2010, at 7:54 PM, william humphrey wrote:

Thanks. That plug-in will always be useful. How hard is it to turn  
into a

tRev plug in?
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Michael Kann]

Bob and Alex,

Thank you both for educating me a little bit about how my youtube addiction is 
fed. Bob, thanks for the heads up about being more vigilant. Here's my mental 
model of how it works for me:

I pay money to my cable provider (Suddenlink). I find a cable coming into my 
house, attach a cable modem to the cable, then connect my computer to the cable 
modem. Suddenlink sends my computer an IP number to use while I'm connected (a 
dynamic address I think it's called). ipconfig says I also have a default 
gateway. 

The part that scares me a little is Bob's remark:
---
Still, I think the more likely scenario for this thread is that he -- that 
being me -- doesn't have a firewall solution that is not a personal firewall, 
which I always recommend for any home user or business.
---
What that tells me is that a personal firewall isn't really sufficient.

Thanks again for the info,

Mike


--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> From: Bob Sneidar 
> Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 6:54 PM
> Huh. I'm an IT guy and although I
> knew about (what some call) classic routers (we use a double
> routing method here) I was not aware that there was a such
> thing as fire walling without some kind of NAT protection.
> If this is fairly common as you say, I am quite shocked! For
> servers I would set up a one to one NAT so that the actual
> IP of the servers would not be visible to the public side in
> order to prevent IP spoofing. Seems a risky thing to do
> these days. 
> 
> Still, I think the more likely scenario for this thread is
> that he doesn't have a firewall solution that is not a
> personal firewall, which I always recommend for any home
> user or business. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 17, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
> 
> > On 17/05/2010 23:48, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> >> That's because you connect to the internet without
> a gateway/router/firewall, in which case there is no public
> IP. I would rectify that situation pronto. No one should
> connect directly to the internet these days.
> >>   
> > 
> > No, it doesn't necessarily imply that there is no
> router/firewall. It does imply there is no NAT function in
> the router/firewall, but it's perfectly possible, and in
> fact still fairly common, to have public IP = local IP. Most
> common in medium to large companies which got in early in
> the IP address space race, and have more than enough
> addresses to have no need for address sharing/translation;
> however, it's also possible for any home user who buys
> dedicated IP address(es) service from their ISP, say if they
> want to run their own servers.
> > 
> > And of course you can have a transparent firewall
> (e.g. Cisco PIX or ASA) either in your own network or in the
> service provider's regardless of whether or not you have NAT
> in the router.
> > 
> > -- Alex.
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Re: Compress function (additional information)

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Jerry,

Many thanks for your compliment! :-)

Could you correct this information and
post in the Online Dictionary entry?

To verify what i wrote, download this working example:
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/export_vector_graphics_v04.zip

This stack saves Runrev vector graphics
as a flate encoded pdf (and other variants
of pdf and two more formats.)

Adobe Illustrator, Macromedia Freehand
and Foxit Reader opens fine the flate
encoded version of the document.

Xara does not open any of my exported pdf,
so surely, my pdf template needs updating...

Many thanks in advance!

Alejandro
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[william humphrey]

Thanks. That plug-in will always be useful. How hard is it to turn into a
tRev plug in?
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Re: Compress function (additional information)

[Jerry Daniels]

I started to weep when I read this. It's beautiful!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Create iPad web apps with Rodeo:
http://rodeoapps.com

On May 17, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Alejandro Tejada  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Who could help me and post this information about
> Compress() function in Online Dictionary:
> http://docs.runrev.com/Function/compress
> 
> You corrections and additions are welcome!
> :-)
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Alejandro
> 
> 
> The compress function returns a gzip compressed
> string of binary data structured in the following format:
> 
> 1) A 10-byte header, containing:
> 
> A magic number, composed by two bytes:
> 1F 8B (Hexadecimal) or 31 139 (ASCII Numbers
> of both characters)
> 
> A version number (always 08), that specify compression
> compression method used in the file.
> In this case Rev write the byte 08.
> This single character correspond to DEFLATE compression.
> 
> Additional information like timestamp, optional extra headers,
> (as the original file name) are not included and in their place
> Rev writes six null bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 
> Last char of 10 byte header correspond to the type of
> file system on which compression took place.
> Rev writes the single byte 03, that correspond to
> Unix.
> 
> For example: First Ten characters of a gzipped binary string
> (Hexadecimal)
> 1F 8B 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 03
> (ASCII Characters numbers)
> 31 139 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 03
> 
> 2- a body, containing DEFLATE-compressed data
> 
> 3- Last 8 characters contains a CRC-32 checksum and
> length of the original uncompressed data:
> For example: Last 8 characters of gzipped binary string
> (Hexadecimal)
> 8C 72 E5 F5 1A 34 02 00
> Last four bytes: 1A 34 02 00 = 0002341A = 144,410
> represent the file length (142 k)
> Bytes 8C 72 E5 F5 correspond to CRC-32 of
> this file: F5E5728C
> 
> If you need to use only the binary string of DEFLATE-compressed
> data, without the gzip header and footer, use a script like this:
> 
> put compress(myData) into myGzippedData
> put char 11 to -9 of myGzippedData into myDeflateData
> 
> or the short version:
> put char 11 to -9 of compress(myData) into myDeflateData
> 
> This binary string of DEFLATE-compressed data is useful
> if you need to write a Flate Encoded stream in a PDF file
> like this:
> 
> put "xÚ" & char 11 to -9 of myGzippedData into myFlateEncodedStream
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Compress function (additional information)

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi all,

Who could help me and post this information about
Compress() function in Online Dictionary:
http://docs.runrev.com/Function/compress

You corrections and additions are welcome!
:-)

Thanks in advance!

Alejandro


The compress function returns a gzip compressed
string of binary data structured in the following format:

1) A 10-byte header, containing:

A magic number, composed by two bytes:
1F 8B (Hexadecimal) or 31 139 (ASCII Numbers
of both characters)

A version number (always 08), that specify compression
compression method used in the file.
In this case Rev write the byte 08.
This single character correspond to DEFLATE compression.

Additional information like timestamp, optional extra headers,
(as the original file name) are not included and in their place
Rev writes six null bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00

Last char of 10 byte header correspond to the type of
file system on which compression took place.
Rev writes the single byte 03, that correspond to
Unix.

For example: First Ten characters of a gzipped binary string
(Hexadecimal)
1F 8B 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 03
(ASCII Characters numbers)
31 139 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 03

2- a body, containing DEFLATE-compressed data

3- Last 8 characters contains a CRC-32 checksum and
length of the original uncompressed data:
For example: Last 8 characters of gzipped binary string
(Hexadecimal)
8C 72 E5 F5 1A 34 02 00
Last four bytes: 1A 34 02 00 = 0002341A = 144,410
represent the file length (142 k)
Bytes 8C 72 E5 F5 correspond to CRC-32 of
this file: F5E5728C

If you need to use only the binary string of DEFLATE-compressed
data, without the gzip header and footer, use a script like this:

put compress(myData) into myGzippedData
put char 11 to -9 of myGzippedData into myDeflateData

or the short version:
put char 11 to -9 of compress(myData) into myDeflateData

This binary string of DEFLATE-compressed data is useful
if you need to write a Flate Encoded stream in a PDF file
like this:

put "xÚ" & char 11 to -9 of myGzippedData into myFlateEncodedStream
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Bob Sneidar]

Huh. I'm an IT guy and although I knew about (what some call) classic routers 
(we use a double routing method here) I was not aware that there was a such 
thing as fire walling without some kind of NAT protection. If this is fairly 
common as you say, I am quite shocked! For servers I would set up a one to one 
NAT so that the actual IP of the servers would not be visible to the public 
side in order to prevent IP spoofing. Seems a risky thing to do these days. 

Still, I think the more likely scenario for this thread is that he doesn't have 
a firewall solution that is not a personal firewall, which I always recommend 
for any home user or business. 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

> On 17/05/2010 23:48, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> That's because you connect to the internet without a 
>> gateway/router/firewall, in which case there is no public IP. I would 
>> rectify that situation pronto. No one should connect directly to the 
>> internet these days.
>>   
> 
> No, it doesn't necessarily imply that there is no router/firewall. It does 
> imply there is no NAT function in the router/firewall, but it's perfectly 
> possible, and in fact still fairly common, to have public IP = local IP. Most 
> common in medium to large companies which got in early in the IP address 
> space race, and have more than enough addresses to have no need for address 
> sharing/translation; however, it's also possible for any home user who buys 
> dedicated IP address(es) service from their ISP, say if they want to run 
> their own servers.
> 
> And of course you can have a transparent firewall (e.g. Cisco PIX or ASA) 
> either in your own network or in the service provider's regardless of whether 
> or not you have NAT in the router.
> 
> -- Alex.
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RE: searching for a put that opens message box

[Jim Bufalini]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

> spaces in url's and web files are evil. Link no workie.

Yes they are. Now been switched to have no spaces:
 
www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/SmartSearch.rev

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini




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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Alex Tweedly]

On 17/05/2010 23:48, Bob Sneidar wrote:

That's because you connect to the internet without a gateway/router/firewall, 
in which case there is no public IP. I would rectify that situation pronto. No 
one should connect directly to the internet these days.
   


No, it doesn't necessarily imply that there is no router/firewall. It 
does imply there is no NAT function in the router/firewall, but it's 
perfectly possible, and in fact still fairly common, to have public IP = 
local IP. Most common in medium to large companies which got in early in 
the IP address space race, and have more than enough addresses to have 
no need for address sharing/translation; however, it's also possible for 
any home user who buys dedicated IP address(es) service from their ISP, 
say if they want to run their own servers.


And of course you can have a transparent firewall (e.g. Cisco PIX or 
ASA) either in your own network or in the service provider's regardless 
of whether or not you have NAT in the router.


-- Alex.
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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Bob Sneidar]

Oddly I copied the entire text from the email including the space. The browser 
substituted the appropriate %20 but I still got the file not found 404 error. 
By going to the directory, I was able to download it, but only by using Save to 
Downloads in a right click. Just saying. :-)

Looks like a nice little "find in any script" utility. It could be made into a 
nice tRev plugin too! 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 3:58 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

> cmon, gang we're coders!  URLEcode!
> 
> go URL("http://www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart%20Search.rev";) in the
> msg box
> 
> 
> (tested)
> 
> 
> this is a fast and versatile search dialog. I like it. Thanks, Jim, thanks
> Eric!
> 
> 
> 
> On 17 May 2010 15:42, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
>> www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -
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> Back home in SF
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Playing wav sound file in Linux in background?

[John Patten]

Hi All...

I've been having a problem playing back an audio file on a Linux  
computer using an "arecord"  a shell script to first create the audio  
file.


The audio file gets created on the local machine, it then gets  
uploaded to an ftp directory, however when I go to play the sound file  
locally using just Rev it's just static white noise.


If I again, use the shell script to play the audio file, "aplay path- 
tofile," it plays fine. However the user can't do anything with my  
stack until the file completely finishes playing.


Is there any way to play the audio file via the shell script in the  
background and still allow the user to interact with the stack?


Thank you!

John Patten


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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[stephen barncard]

cmon, gang we're coders!  URLEcode!

 go URL("http://www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart%20Search.rev";) in the
msg box


(tested)


this is a fast and versatile search dialog. I like it. Thanks, Jim, thanks
Eric!



On 17 May 2010 15:42, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev
>



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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Bob Sneidar]

That's because you connect to the internet without a gateway/router/firewall, 
in which case there is no public IP. I would rectify that situation pronto. No 
one should connect directly to the internet these days. 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Michael Kann wrote:

> Bob:
> 
> http://www.whatismyip.com says:
> 
> Your IP Address Is: 75.108.90.130
> 
> ipconfig says:
> 
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130
> 
> I guess I don't know what a "local" IP is.
> 
> Mike

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Bob Sneidar]

spaces in url's and web files are evil. Link no workie. 

Bob


On May 16, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:

> www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Bob Sneidar]

BACKWARDS OFFSET! HERE HERE!!! Like the dBase function RAT(). 

Bob


On May 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

> collect the line numbers on the first pass, they ya gotta count backwards if
> you delete lines, Mark. Repeat for each won't work unless the entire script
> is rebuilt.
> 
> Do we need a  "backwards offset"??

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Re: revIgniter chat tutorial

[Ralf Bitter]

On 17.05.2010, at 23:35, Ian Wood wrote:
> 
> 
> Ralf:
> "As we don't want page redraws while sending new chat messages we use Ajax 
> requests and therefor load the Jquery library:" is missing an e on the end of 
> "therefor".

Ian, thanks, is fixed.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Bob Sneidar]

Couldn't you search for "put  " & return?

on findit
  put the script of  into theScript
  put Offset("put  " & return, theScript) into found1 -- can't 
use lineoffset with return?? not sure
  put Offset("put " & return, theScript) into found2 -- no space 
after variable just in case

  if found1 + found2 > 0 then -- youfoundit
-- whatever code you like here
  end if
end findit

On May 15, 2010, at 8:53 AM, william humphrey wrote:

> Jerry
> 
> I'm asking this question on the RunRev forum because I want to announce here
> how much I love tRev. Anyway how do you search for a "put" that is like
> 
> "put variable"
> 
> and doesn't have an "into" so it opens the message box. I realize that I
> should have marked my code there or put message box because it is so hard to
> find a "put" that doesn't have an "into"
> 
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Re: AW: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Andre Garzia]

On unix like systems, you can do shell("whoami")

Sent from my iPad

On May 17, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> I think mostly Windows Home is neutered in respect to Windows Networking 
> protocols. I don't think there would be any problem with shell calls relating 
> to things both Home and Professional had in common. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 17, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
>> Tested: It works also on XP with a non admin user.
>> 
>> Perhaps it would be good to check, if it also works on Win home editions,
>> because there is in some cases only a subset of shell commands allowed in
>> these editions.
>> Tiemo
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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[J. Landman Gay]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

How odd they are different between Windows and Mac!


If Linux is the same as OS X, which could be likely, then it's Windows 
that's odd. :) I'm too lazy to boot up my Ubuntu installation to check.


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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Mark Wieder]

Bob-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 3:15:31 PM, you wrote:

> How odd they are different between Windows and Mac!

rotfl

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Re: [ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!

[Bob Sneidar]

I was actually going to BUY a license, even though you are still in Beta, just 
to support what appears to be an excellent and much needed tool, but alas, 
there is nothing in your storefront that allows me to do so. I noticed that 
your screenshots are of a vista/win7 look. Just to be sure, may I assume this 
will work with Macs as well as Windows?

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Damien Girard wrote:

> 
> Dear Runtime Revolution user,
> 
> I am proud to announce you the OPEN BETA release of NativeGeometry 2.0!
> 
> NativeGeometry is our latest extension for Runtime Revolution, it is an
> enhanced Geometry Manager that help you to develop faster cross-platform
> applications, multi-languages application or simply your applications, with
> the ease of the use of the Revolution Geometry manager but with the power
> and the speed like if you were writing your own scripts!
> 
> To check-out more in depth its features, go to the NativeGeometry website:
> 
> http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

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Re: AW: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Bob Sneidar]

I think mostly Windows Home is neutered in respect to Windows Networking 
protocols. I don't think there would be any problem with shell calls relating 
to things both Home and Professional had in common. 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

> Tested: It works also on XP with a non admin user.
> 
> Perhaps it would be good to check, if it also works on Win home editions,
> because there is in some cases only a subset of shell commands allowed in
> these editions.
> Tiemo

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Re: [OT] (totally OT) on iPhone eQuality and iStupidities

[Jonathan Lynch]

I feel quite confident that sarcasm and animosity, while satisfying to
express, have virtually zero chance of convincing Steve Jobs to do anything
that you would like him to do.

As an aside, by allowing you to develop for the iPhone, then snatching it
away, did Steve Jobs commit a bit of bait and switch? Under some
circumstances (I have no idea if that would include this one) that can be
grounds for a law suit in the U.S.

'course, a law suit is pretty much the nuclear option when it comes to
generating animosity - kinda hard to turn back from that one.

Good luck,

Jonathan

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> Not saying I disagree, but if we are going to blitz Apple with copies of
> this letter, we probably ought to correct the grammar first.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On May 16, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Robert Mann wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > As the iconic defender of the highest possible quality in software, I
> wanted
> > to express my sympathy and full support.
> >
> > However, I just faced an unconfortable evening in front of my 10 year old
> > son, 9 year old daughter and beloved wife : they came accross the "Love
> > Champion" iphone app that YOU market on YOUR store.
> >
> > This application claims you can easily time your love intercourse,
> compare
> > your performances locally, within your town, and across the world. This
> has
> > raised numerous questions from my children, anxiety to my wife and
> strange
> > behaviour of my son (he asked for a penis-muscular course to compete).
> i'm
> > now suffering severe sexual disconfort with my wife, who, I assume could
> at
> > last compare my performance, worldwide.
> > Many thanks Steve, I hope you will never suffer like this from YOUR apps!
> >
> > I also happen to have lost 6 months investment in developping an iPhone
> app
> > on runrev mobile platform which you banned from YOUR apple store
> recently.
> > Many thanks, again.
> >
> > I am now suffered severe desolation syndrom in the view of asking my
> banker
> > a supplementary loan to move over to the Android platform.
> >
> > The application I was working on, was dedicated to old people who could
> use
> > an iTablet to keep in touch with each others and their families. This is
> a
> > growing problem in France maybe it is too in US.
> >
> > Your recent iapps policy makes no sense to me.
> > I wish you would reconsider what is quality for apps,
> > and how the app store should aim for quality.
> >
> > I humbly suggest you bring the iStupidity issue, on top priority,
> > way above the technical qualities issues you raised against runrev.
> >
> > Faith lessly, yours,
> > Robert
> >
> > p.s. feel free to copy this letter sent to Steve Jobs today.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-totally-OT-on-iPhone-eQuality-and-iStupidities-tp2219012p2219012.html
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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Bob Sneidar]

How odd they are different between Windows and Mac!

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 3:12 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> I would use a lineoffset with "USERNAME=" as opposed to a repeat
>> loop, but as another post pointed out $username is much better.
> 
> In case anyone's keeping score, on OS X it's $USER. There is also $LOGNAME. 
> At least here, they're both the same thing.
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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[J. Landman Gay]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

I would use a lineoffset with "USERNAME=" as opposed to a repeat
loop, but as another post pointed out $username is much better.


In case anyone's keeping score, on OS X it's $USER. There is also 
$LOGNAME. At least here, they're both the same thing.


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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Bob Sneidar]

I would use a lineoffset with "USERNAME=" as opposed to a repeat loop, but as 
another post pointed out $username is much better. 

Bob


On May 17, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am using this under Vista to identify the currently logged in user:
> 
> function getUserName
>  local tUser
>  set the hideconsolewindows to true
>  put shell("set user") into tUser
>  set the itemDel to "="
>  repeat for each line theLine in tUser
> if item 1 of theLine="USERNAME" then
>return item 2 to -1 of theLine
> end if
>  end repeat
>  return tUser
> end getUserName
> 
> Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under XP and / or WIn 
> 7, even when not logged in with admin rights?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> malte
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Re: [OT] (totally OT) on iPhone eQuality and iStupidities

[Bob Sneidar]

Not saying I disagree, but if we are going to blitz Apple with copies of this 
letter, we probably ought to correct the grammar first. 

Bob


On May 16, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Robert Mann wrote:

> 
> Dear Steve,
> 
> As the iconic defender of the highest possible quality in software, I wanted
> to express my sympathy and full support.
> 
> However, I just faced an unconfortable evening in front of my 10 year old
> son, 9 year old daughter and beloved wife : they came accross the "Love
> Champion" iphone app that YOU market on YOUR store.
> 
> This application claims you can easily time your love intercourse, compare
> your performances locally, within your town, and across the world. This has
> raised numerous questions from my children, anxiety to my wife and strange
> behaviour of my son (he asked for a penis-muscular course to compete). i'm
> now suffering severe sexual disconfort with my wife, who, I assume could at
> last compare my performance, worldwide.
> Many thanks Steve, I hope you will never suffer like this from YOUR apps!
> 
> I also happen to have lost 6 months investment in developping an iPhone app
> on runrev mobile platform which you banned from YOUR apple store recently.
> Many thanks, again.
> 
> I am now suffered severe desolation syndrom in the view of asking my banker
> a supplementary loan to move over to the Android platform.
> 
> The application I was working on, was dedicated to old people who could use
> an iTablet to keep in touch with each others and their families. This is a
> growing problem in France maybe it is too in US.
> 
> Your recent iapps policy makes no sense to me.
> I wish you would reconsider what is quality for apps,
> and how the app store should aim for quality.
> 
> I humbly suggest you bring the iStupidity issue, on top priority,
> way above the technical qualities issues you raised against runrev.
> 
> Faith lessly, yours,
> Robert
> 
> p.s. feel free to copy this letter sent to Steve Jobs today.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-totally-OT-on-iPhone-eQuality-and-iStupidities-tp2219012p2219012.html
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Re: Button drop down...

[Bob Sneidar]

Jeeze that sounds like a bug. Shouldn't Rev make that call itself?

Bob


On May 16, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Jeff Massung wrote:

> To get around this, after you move the control, run revCacheGeometry, which
> should update the geometry manager's "cache" of where the control should
> be.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jeff M.

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Re: Another DataGrid Question

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi Joe. 

There is an excellent dictionary for Datagrids on BlueMangoLearning.com. Please 
see 
http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution_tools/manuals/datagrid

You can walk through the lessons which will get you up to speed on the 
prescribed methods for interacting with Datagrids, and at the bottom is a link 
to Data Grid API, where there is a more concise description of the various 
commands and functions to use with them. 

Bob


On May 15, 2010, at 12:54 PM, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Everyone
> 
> First of all thanks to Zryip for the answer to my last grid question. Now 
> that problem is solved, but I have another.
> 
> I have a dataGrid with 8 columns and 1000 rows. Knowing the data of a line 
> of column 2, I need to retrieve the data of column 1 of that line. I don't 
> want to change anything in the dataGrid while doing this. How is this best 
> accomplished? If it helps Column 1 is titled Securities and column 2 is 
> titled 
> Symbol.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your continued assistance.
> 
> Joe in Orlando
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revMobile on Slashdot

[Ian Wood]

http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/05/17/1849215/iPhone-SDK-Agreement-Shuts-Out-HyperCard-Clone

The usual signal-to-noise ratio for /. though...

Ian
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revIgniter chat tutorial

[Ian Wood]

I've just worked my way through the chat tutorial, very handy as one  
of my main uses is going to be pulling and pushing info to a DB!


Notes for anyone on the list following the tutorial:
- Make sure to replace all the EOT characters with spaces when copying  
text from the web page (as others have mentioned).
- If using phpMyAdmin to create the test table, make sure that you  
remove all the single-quote characters from the MySQL statement!



The results:
http://ijw.on-rev.com/ign/chat/


Ralf:
"As we don't want page redraws while sending new chat messages we use  
Ajax requests and therefor load the Jquery library:" is missing an e  
on the end of "therefor".


Thanks again,

Ian
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Re: Rev Menus [was Re: Location of stack]

[Richard Gaskin]

Jeff Massung wrote:


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:



I can think of no solution for adding something to a window in a way that
doesn't add it to the window.



I can't think of way to eat a burger without eating a burger.

Richard, I usually love your insightful posts... but that statement had me
cocking my head trying to figure out what you meant.  ;-)


With the burger analogy I think you got it. :)

There are at least two issues involved in working with cross-platform 
differences with the menubar in Rev:  the content region and the window 
bounds.


Both can be dealt with effectively, neither as conveniently as I'd prefer.

When placing windows relative to each other or to system components 
(like the Task Bar), the stack's rect only reflects the content region 
and not the full bounds of the window (border and title bar).  On 
Windows, the full window size is affected by user-adjustable settings, 
requiring the scripter to dive into the registry to obtain the current 
ones in use.


When placing controls within the content region, as Rev is currently 
architected one can adjust them to the bottom of the menu bar in one 
line by just putting them in a group.


If we make handling the content region change more convenient, it still 
won't do a thing to address the other factor of total window size.  OSes 
are just different, and making good cross-platform appearances will take 
an extra few lines of code than they would if we were lazy.


Java ports to OS X commonly solve both sides of this with laziness: 
they just leave the menus attached to the top of the window. :)




In all seriousness, though, this is 100% a solved problem and has been for
*years*. REALbasic doesn't have this problem, and neither do the myriad of
other cross-platform bits of middle-ware and languages.


I'm not familiar with how RealBASIC handles this, but I can see merit in 
a solution that uses the OS to render the menu bar for us into a portion 
of the window outside of the content region, as you suggest.


Not only would this simplify some aspects of internal layout, it would 
also make sure our menus are rendered with the correct font, size, and 
spacing for each OS.


Curiously, a brief search of the RQCC didn't turn up such a request.  If 
you have time to add one I think it would be helpful.




The real problems here are (a) backwards compatibility (as Jacque noted) and
(b) that Rev insists on emulating a menu bar as a background group of
pull-down buttons instead of using whatever API is native to the OS and just
making a menu bar. ;-)


It could be done in a way that also allows for backward compatibility:

In a system that lets the OS render the menu bar, we don't want to have 
to make individual buttons for each menu; those buttons have properties 
that aren't relevant to their role as pull-down menus, and it would 
simply be more conveniently have a list of menu titles and items 
assigned to a new stack property perhaps called a "menuSet", and let the 
system work out the font, size, spacing, background pattern, etc.


When a stack has a menuSet assigned, the older method of looking for a 
menu group would be bypassed and this new method invoked instead, which 
renders the menubar into a dynamically-created space between the content 
region and the title bar on Win and Linux, and into the menu bar on OS X 
as it does now.


By making this a new property, backward compatibility would be 
maintained: anyone wanting the older behavior can simply not assign 
anything to the stack's menuSet, and instead continue to assign a 
menubar group as they do now.  All current stacks would continue to work 
as they do now.



All that said, I see no harm in Jacque's approach of helping people 
better understand Rev as it currently exists.  It can be helpful to file 
a request in the RQCC, but once it's filed we're still where we are, and 
it seems most productive to go ahead and make the best use of the 
current architecture we have in hand than to wait for some future time 
when it might be changed.


Rev's menu architecture is not as convenient as some others in some 
respect, yet Rev must have enough other advantages or we'd all be having 
this conversation on a different vendor's list. :)


The overloading of the internal button class to also serve as menus may 
seem an odd choice today, but it made reasonable sense to Scott Raney 
when we wrote it and is not without a few niceties that we don't see 
commonly in other tools, like the ability to use stacks as menus so you 
have have pull-down galleries.


Sure, like most things in our imperfect world, Rev has many areas with 
some rough edges.  And being an imperfect world, once we work out an 
alternate solution and submit it to the RQCC, we also need a bit of 
patience in view of the wide range of other priorities the engine faces.


While less convenient than they could be ideally, there's little about 
Rev's menus that are seen as show-stoppers. 

Re: Search Many Docs to Return Search Results

[Michael Kann]

Sivakatirswami,

Have you put together what you need or are you still looking for some ideas?

Mike

--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Sivakatirswami  wrote:

> From: Sivakatirswami 
> Subject: Search Many Docs to Return Search Results
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:57 PM
> I feel like I'm about to reinvent the
> wheel here... and I believe I even posted this query once
> before but am having trouble finding the emails where some
> good souls responded previously
> 
> Can anyone who has created any search-many-docs
> scripts  post their library or scripts for 
> returning search results? or point to a stack online that
> has contains scripts that will serve?
> 
> We want to the user to enter a term... Rev will dig a
> number of html files. Not many, so, we will just read them
> from disk.
> 
> The search "engine" will step through the documents and
> return a list of hits. We retrieve the entire line using
> lineoffset and move on to the next instance in the same doc.
> Then proceed to the next file. For display we want to show
> the user about 100 chars before and after the term found and
> then post this to a search results field, where she can see
> the results, hover over the small excerpt will pop up the
> whole line-paragraph, and a click will open the document
> (set the html text of a field to the doc) and take her to
> that place in the document.
> 
> I have parts of the above here and there in various stacks,
> especially the last part I have some code that steps through
> a field and sets the highlight color of the search term and
> the user can quickly scan and see his term in color... 
> and I think I can put it together, but... I'm guessing many
> of you already have various flavors of this scenario already
> built and much better coded than I could do. so, if anyone
> has any snippets for any part of the above scenario I can
> put them together with what I have.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sivakatirswami
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Re: Rev Menus [was Re: Location of stack]

[Jeff Massung]

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:

>
> I can think of no solution for adding something to a window in a way that
> doesn't add it to the window.
>
>
I can't think of way to eat a burger without eating a burger.

Richard, I usually love your insightful posts... but that statement had me
cocking my head trying to figure out what you meant.  ;-)

In all seriousness, though, this is 100% a solved problem and has been for
*years*. REALbasic doesn't have this problem, and neither do the myriad of
other cross-platform bits of middle-ware and languages.

The real problems here are (a) backwards compatibility (as Jacque noted) and
(b) that Rev insists on emulating a menu bar as a background group of
pull-down buttons instead of using whatever API is native to the OS and just
making a menu bar. ;-)

Jeff M.
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Re: Rev Menus [was Re: Location of stack]

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Wieder wrote:


Point taken. The fact that there needs to be an explanation at all,
though, and that it's something that comes up frequently on the list,
is an indicator that something needs work.


Perhaps what it's telling us is that we should take Steve Jobs' advice 
and stop making cross-platform apps. ;)


While people use the term "intuitive" for computing, little if anything 
about it is truly intuitive.  Like operating a car, operating a computer 
must be learned; and making cars requires even more learning, as does 
making software.  When making multi-platform software, the number of 
things you need to learn multiplies by the number of platforms you 
design for.  That there's an explanation merely tells us we're making 
something.



On Mac and Win, the space required by the menu bar is almost the same. 
The difference is that the Mac has one common menu bar detached from the 
windows at the top of the monitor, and Windows has the menu bar attached 
to the window itself.


I can think of no solution for adding something to a window in a way 
that doesn't add it to the window.


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getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Michael Kann]

Bob, I figured it out. I'm just a special case where the IP address on my 
machine goes all the way to the server without going through any other layers. 

--
Previous banter:
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Bob,
http://www.whatismyip.com says:
Your IP Address Is: 75.108.90.130
ipconfig says:
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130
I guess I don't know what a "local" IP address is.

Mike


  
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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Michael Kann]

Bob:

http://www.whatismyip.com says:

Your IP Address Is: 75.108.90.130

ipconfig says:

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130

I guess I don't know what a "local" IP is.

Mike







--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> From: Bob Sneidar 
> Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 12:15 PM
> That is the local IP. I think he
> wants to know what the IP is on the public side of the
> gateway. 
> 
> I think there are many sites that will return what IP you
> are connecting from. One of them is http://www.whatismyip.com. Not sure how 
> to parse that
> out from the html that is returned. I'd have to see what
> form it takes. Once you have that you can simply use the web
> plugin to get the html from that url. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Michael Kann wrote:
> 
> > Josh,
> > 
> > Using:
> > --
> > set the hideConsoleWindows to true
> > put shell("ipconfig/all") into v
> > put v into fld 1
> > end mouseUp
> > --
> > Gives you:
> > --
> > 
> > Windows IP Configuration
> > 
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fake11
> > Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : fake.edu
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : fake.edu
> > 
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > 
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix: 
> > Description: Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit
> Controller
> > 
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FA-KE-B8-AE-8B
> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.1
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.24.120.39
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.180.42.100
> >               
>                
>     208.180.42.68
> > Lease Obtained: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:52:39 AM
> > Lease Expires: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:48:49 AM
> > 
> > 
> > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> > 
> > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media
> disconnected
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1370
> WLAN Mini-PCI Card
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-FA-KE-1E-73
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Josh Mellicker 
> >> Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not
> local network) IP address
> >> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> >> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 10:15 PM
> >> Does that get the internet IP or
> >> local IP?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Mac, this returns:
> >> 
> >> usage: ipconfig  
> >> where  is one of waitall,
> getifaddr,
> >> ifcount, getoption, getpacket, set, setverbose
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On May 13, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Michael Kann wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Windows XP:
> >>> 
> >>> on mouseUp
> >>> set the hideConsoleWindows to true
> >>> put shell("ipconfig") into fld 1 // parse out
> what you
> >> want
> >>> end mouseUp
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker 
> >> wrote:
> >>> 
>  From: Josh Mellicker 
>  Subject: getting the user's (internet, not
> local
> >> network) IP address
>  To: "how to use Revolution" 
>  Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 9:14 PM
>  Just thought I'd share this in case
>  it was of any use to anyone, and so at
> least one
> >> post on the
>  list is not about Steve Jobs and Apple's
> >> tyrannical actions
>  :-)
>  
>  
>  To get the user's (internet, not local
> network) IP
> >> address,
>  put a text file on your server with this
> code:
>  
>   ?>
>  
>  
>  Then in your app:
>  
>  get url 
>  "http://yourdomain.com/folder-you-put-the-php-file-in/your-php-filename.php";
>  
>  
>  Is there a better
>  
> >>
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RE: searching for a put that opens message box

[Jim Bufalini]

Devin Asay wrote:
 
> The link seems to be broken, Jim, although I was able to get it by just
> listing the downloads folder contents.
> 
> Thanks for offering this.

The link is ok, it just got broken at the space in the send. Hopefully it
won't get broken this time, If it does, just copy the entire link and paste
into your browser. 

www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

Aloha from Hawaii,

Jim Bufalini



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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

[Brian Yennie]

Exactly. As someone who has spent the last couple of years writing virtual 
worlds in Flash, I can say unequivocally that HTML 5 is nowhere near being able 
to duplicate that functionality. Not only is the feature set much smaller and 
browser support limited, but there are no tools behind it. And on top of that, 
client-readable source code (JavaScript) is an issue.

Certainly HTML 5 could replace Flash someday, but the general consensus in the 
gaming / virtual world arena is that it's a solid 3-5 years away and there will 
still be a lot of legacy stuff floating around along with a lack of libraries 
and tools to build with. And that's assuming some other factor doesn't pop up 
in that time.

With that said, if HTML 5 adoption goes anywhere I bet Adobe starts offering 
export from Flash. They are, ironically, the ones positioned to be the toolset 
for HTML 5 / Canvas applications...

> 
> On May 16, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/16/mefeedia_html5_survey/
> 
> 
> People are still getting confused about what Flash is used for, and think 
> that if more sites have an html5 video player option, that the overall use of 
> Flash has gone down. That would be like saying that all Rev stacks are just 
> address books, and any use of another address book would mean that general 
> use of Rev had gone down.
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Re: [ANN] [FR] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!

[Jérôme Rosat]

Bonne et mauvaise nouvelle !

Avez-vous des précisions concernant la création d'applications multilingues 
avec NativeGeometry 2.0 ?
Vous indiquez que NativeSpeak 1.x ne va plus évoluer et vous mentionnez 
NativeSpeak 2.0 ?

Jérôme
Genève
 
Le 17 mai 2010 à 18:16, Damien Girard a écrit :

> NativeSpeak 1.x is discontinued, the application will continue to works and
> we will continue the support, but the application will not be updated
> anymore, we recommend to new users that want to create a multi-language
> application to use NativeGeometry, then the localization process with
> NativeSpeak 2.0 will be really easy.

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Re: searching for a put that opens message box

[Devin Asay]

On May 16, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
> 
> Here is a small Rev plugin that finds orphaned puts in any open stack you so
> designate. It was written by Eric Chatonet. Offered "as is." It will also
> find other lines of code. Please put it in your plugins folder and launch it
> from there. 
> 
> www.jimbofhawaii.com/downloads/Smart Search.rev

The link seems to be broken, Jim, although I was able to get it by just listing 
the downloads folder contents.

Thanks for offering this.

Devin


Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address

[Bob Sneidar]

That is the local IP. I think he wants to know what the IP is on the public 
side of the gateway. 

I think there are many sites that will return what IP you are connecting from. 
One of them is http://www.whatismyip.com. Not sure how to parse that out from 
the html that is returned. I'd have to see what form it takes. Once you have 
that you can simply use the web plugin to get the html from that url. 

Bob


On May 14, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Michael Kann wrote:

> Josh,
> 
> Using:
> --
> set the hideConsoleWindows to true
> put shell("ipconfig/all") into v
> put v into fld 1
> end mouseUp
> --
> Gives you:
> --
> 
> Windows IP Configuration
> 
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fake11
> Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : fake.edu
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : fake.edu
> 
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> 
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix: 
> Description: Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
> 
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FA-KE-B8-AE-8B
> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.130
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 75.108.90.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.24.120.39
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.180.42.100
>208.180.42.68
> Lease Obtained: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:52:39 AM
> Lease Expires: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:48:49 AM
> 
> 
> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> 
> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-FA-KE-1E-73
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker  wrote:
> 
>> From: Josh Mellicker 
>> Subject: Re: getting the user's (internet, not local network) IP address
>> To: "How to use Revolution" 
>> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 10:15 PM
>> Does that get the internet IP or
>> local IP?
>> 
>> 
>> On Mac, this returns:
>> 
>> usage: ipconfig  
>> where  is one of waitall, getifaddr,
>> ifcount, getoption, getpacket, set, setverbose
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Michael Kann wrote:
>> 
>>> On Windows XP:
>>> 
>>> on mouseUp
>>> set the hideConsoleWindows to true
>>> put shell("ipconfig") into fld 1 // parse out what you
>> want
>>> end mouseUp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Josh Mellicker 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 From: Josh Mellicker 
 Subject: getting the user's (internet, not local
>> network) IP address
 To: "how to use Revolution" 
 Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 9:14 PM
 Just thought I'd share this in case
 it was of any use to anyone, and so at least one
>> post on the
 list is not about Steve Jobs and Apple's
>> tyrannical actions
 :-)
 
 
 To get the user's (internet, not local network) IP
>> address,
 put a text file on your server with this code:
 
 
 
 
 Then in your app:
 
 get url 
 "http://yourdomain.com/folder-you-put-the-php-file-in/your-php-filename.php";
 
 
 Is there a better
 
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Re: Rev Menus [was Re: Location of stack]

[Mark Wieder]

Jacque-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:54:58 AM, you wrote:

> I'm not disagreeing, I'm just wondering what better way would be
> available. I don't personally have any trouble with menu builder, I've
> found it to be solid and reliable, but I won't argue if others do. I use
> menu builder in virtually every project as a quick way to set up a 
> menubar with skeleton scripts, and I find it a very convenient shortcut.
> I won't argue with you about the other two features. ;)

You've got years of experience working with this. For you this is
simple pattern recognition: "I've been in this situation before and
here is how I deal with it". It's like playing chess where there are
standard responses to known situations. I'm not arguing that the menu
builder isn't "solid and reliable", just that the way the rev engine
deals with menubars needs rethinking.

> Okay, but to be fair, the "long" explanation was part of a tutorial on
> how to convert HC stacks, and the actual info about how menus work was
> only a couple of paragraphs in that. Most of the info is an explanation

Point taken. The fact that there needs to be an explanation at all,
though, and that it's something that comes up frequently on the list,
is an indicator that something needs work.

> What's your response to those who don't get how externals work? Or
> groups and backgrounds? Or the message hierarchy? Aren't these all 
> things we need to understand to work with Rev?

There are "things we need to understand" and there are things that
just ain't right.

> At any rate, as I said, if anyone can come up with a better solution for
> managing Mac menus then we should propose it to the team. The current
> system may not be as transparent to newcomers as we'd like, but it does
> work, so it's likely to remain unaddressed unless we can suggest a 
> better way.

Maybe we can convince Damien to write "NativeMenus"? 

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Re: [ANN] tRev Decoder lets you travel in time!

[Bob Sneidar]

Oh great. A way to keep track of all the times and ways I screwed up my code! 
;-)

Bob


On May 14, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:

> We've added a new feature to tRev's Decoder (modeless debugger). It now keeps 
> a record of every time a tRev breakpoint gets refreshed with data.

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Re: Location of stack

[J. Landman Gay]

Jeff Massung wrote:


In Win32 (and Linux), you can make a window and put any controls in there
you want. 0,0 is always the upper-left corner of the _usable_ client area in
the window. If you were - at runtime - to attach a menu to the window, what
would happen is that the usable client area would be shifted down and the
menu bar would be tacked on. Note: 0,0 still refers to the upper-left corner
of the _usable_ client area and not the upper-left corner of the menu bar.


Just a thought on this. With this behavior, you've shifted the stack 
down, and even though 0,0 remains a constant location, the window size 
has changed. Isn't this just shifting the issue from the stack level to 
the window level?


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Re: [OT] Installing Linux fonts

[Peter Alcibiades]

The link is maybe a bit old - it refers to Fedora 6, which was 2006, and we
are now on Fedora 12.  I think there is a problem with Debian based distros. 
Mandriva, if I recall correctly, worked fine.  Your experience with being
refused install and then the font showing up anyway is very odd.

Still, the question would be, if gedit (say) can find it, why cannot Rev? 
You can understand open office maybe being anomalous, but gedit and geany
(which is not packaged with hardly any distro from default install) to find
it, and Rev not, that's inexplicable.  Someone in Edinburgh must know the
answer to this, but we keep asking how Rev handles and finds fonts, and
answer comes there none.
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Re: Location of stack

[J. Landman Gay]

Jeff Massung wrote:

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, J. Landman Gay
wrote:


Perhaps menus should be independent objects? Then the engine could manage
them. There would still be issues with the space at the top of the stack,
where menus show on two platforms but not on the other. How would you handle
that?




Jacque,

This is the solution. And no, there wouldn't be stack size issues. The
fundamental problem here is that Rev treats the menu bar area as usable
stack space, and that's not what any OS does underneath.

In Win32 (and Linux), you can make a window and put any controls in there
you want. 0,0 is always the upper-left corner of the _usable_ client area in
the window. If you were - at runtime - to attach a menu to the window, what
would happen is that the usable client area would be shifted down and the
menu bar would be tacked on. Note: 0,0 still refers to the upper-left corner
of the _usable_ client area and not the upper-left corner of the menu bar.

Menus should 100% be their own object, created outside the stacks, and at
runtime you should be able to easily swap out (or remove) the current menu
bar for the stack happens to be. It could be empty or something. Doesn't
matter. And doing so let's the OS handle resizing the window... because it
has nothing to do with Rev and the programmers client area.

Hope that helps/makes sense,


Yes, it doees. We should pursue this. Actually, I suggested the same 
thing to Scott Raney almost 15 years ago and it was actually implemented 
for one particular MetaCard version. (Well, not the scrolling, that 
stayed the same, but the 0,0 location was always under the menu.) It 
broke every existing script out there, there were complaints, and the 
feature was reverted in the next release. It hasn't been changed since.


But now that I see what you mean, we should submit a feature request to 
the QCC. I wouldn't mind losing the scroll behavior.


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AW: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Tested: It works also on XP with a non admin user.

Perhaps it would be good to check, if it also works on Win home editions,
because there is in some cases only a subset of shell commands allowed in
these editions.
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Malte Pfaff-Brill
> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Mai 2010 16:06
> An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Betreff: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am using this under Vista to identify the currently logged in user:
> 
> function getUserName
>   local tUser
>   set the hideconsolewindows to true
>   put shell("set user") into tUser
>   set the itemDel to "="
>   repeat for each line theLine in tUser
>  if item 1 of theLine="USERNAME" then
> return item 2 to -1 of theLine
>  end if
>   end repeat
>   return tUser
> end getUserName
> 
> Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under XP and / or
> WIn 7, even when not logged in with admin rights?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> malte
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Rev Menus [was Re: Location of stack]

[J. Landman Gay]

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:59:41 AM, you wrote:


As far as I can see, the confusion comes from those who don't understand
the scrolling behavior. Once they get that, it falls into place.


Sorry, I'm with Jeff on this. There are (at least) three things I
never use in the rev IDE: the menu builder, the geometry manager, and
the database query builder. They all need to be dumped or completely
revamped, the way the animation thing was swept under the rug.


I'm not disagreeing, I'm just wondering what better way would be 
available. I don't personally have any trouble with menu builder, I've 
found it to be solid and reliable, but I won't argue if others do. I use 
menu builder in virtually every project as a quick way to set up a 
menubar with skeleton scripts, and I find it a very convenient shortcut. 
I won't argue with you about the other two features. ;)



The fact that you had to write a long explanation on your web site of
how to deal with menus is a good reason for reworking the way menus
are handled in the engine


Okay, but to be fair, the "long" explanation was part of a tutorial on 
how to convert HC stacks, and the actual info about how menus work was 
only a couple of paragraphs in that. Most of the info is an explanation 
of the differences between HC menu structures and Rev's (i.e., objects 
vs. scripted menus), tips on where in the conversion process HC converts 
should address menu creation, etc.


not an excuse for "you just don't understand". 


What's your response to those who don't get how externals work? Or 
groups and backgrounds? Or the message hierarchy? Aren't these all 
things we need to understand to work with Rev?


At any rate, as I said, if anyone can come up with a better solution for 
managing Mac menus then we should propose it to the team. The current 
system may not be as transparent to newcomers as we'd like, but it does 
work, so it's likely to remain unaddressed unless we can suggest a 
better way.


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Re: Location of stack

[Jeff Massung]

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jeff Massung  wrote:

>
> In Win32 (and Linux), you can make a window and put any controls in there
> you want. 0,0 is always the upper-left corner of the _usable_ client area in
> the window. If you were - at runtime - to attach a menu to the window, what
> would happen is that the usable client area would be shifted down and the
> menu bar would be tacked on. Note: 0,0 still refers to the upper-left corner
> of the _usable_ client area and not the upper-left corner of the menu bar.
>

I should also note: the usable client area stays exactly the same size.

Jeff M.

P.S. On a side note as to another reason why the menu builder/stack shifting
for Rev sucks: the shift size isn't just different per platform, it's
different per OS. The size I need to handle things on Windows 7 is different
from XP is different from 98 and is different from OS X. I can't even use
the height of the menu bar group to know how much to move my controls. I'm
literally stuck counting pixels on the screen and figuring it out for each
standalone created.
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Re: Location of stack

[Jeff Massung]

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, J. Landman Gay
wrote:

>
> Perhaps menus should be independent objects? Then the engine could manage
> them. There would still be issues with the space at the top of the stack,
> where menus show on two platforms but not on the other. How would you handle
> that?
>
>
>
Jacque,

This is the solution. And no, there wouldn't be stack size issues. The
fundamental problem here is that Rev treats the menu bar area as usable
stack space, and that's not what any OS does underneath.

In Win32 (and Linux), you can make a window and put any controls in there
you want. 0,0 is always the upper-left corner of the _usable_ client area in
the window. If you were - at runtime - to attach a menu to the window, what
would happen is that the usable client area would be shifted down and the
menu bar would be tacked on. Note: 0,0 still refers to the upper-left corner
of the _usable_ client area and not the upper-left corner of the menu bar.

Menus should 100% be their own object, created outside the stacks, and at
runtime you should be able to easily swap out (or remove) the current menu
bar for the stack happens to be. It could be empty or something. Doesn't
matter. And doing so let's the OS handle resizing the window... because it
has nothing to do with Rev and the programmers client area.

Hope that helps/makes sense,

Jeff M.
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Re: Location of stack

[Mark Wieder]

Jacque-

Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:59:41 AM, you wrote:

> As far as I can see, the confusion comes from those who don't understand
> the scrolling behavior. Once they get that, it falls into place.

Sorry, I'm with Jeff on this. There are (at least) three things I
never use in the rev IDE: the menu builder, the geometry manager, and
the database query builder. They all need to be dumped or completely
revamped, the way the animation thing was swept under the rug.

The fact that you had to write a long explanation on your web site of
how to deal with menus is a good reason for reworking the way menus
are handled in the engine, not an excuse for "you just don't
understand". If the engine is going to be smart (sic) enough to handle
my menubar in a cross-platform way then it should be able to take care
of the stuff that I would have to code myself in the way of scrolling
and positioning. And the location of the Help and About menus. And
whatever else needs to be taken care of.

There are only a few situations where I have to put platform-specific
code in my scripts, as in "if the platform is...", and I'd like to
eliminate *all* of those. Everyone comes across the menu bug sooner or
later, and that starts a thread here or on the forum. Do you know of
any other cross-platform development environment where you have to
deal with this?

(as I am writing this, I notice that Damien Girard's announcement of
NativeGeometry just came in) .

-- 
-Mark Wieder
 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

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[OT] Installing Linux fonts

[Richmond Mathewson]

 Here is what is probably the real reason:

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Font-HOWTO/notgood.html
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ListMagic

[charles61]

I just got through using ListMagic in my project. I am really happy with
ListMagic! Jim Bufalini was great in answering my questions and providing
help with my project. I plan to use ListMagic in future projects. If you
haven't try ListMagic, go to the following link for the trial version:

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolution&l=en
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[ANN] NativeGeometry 2 OPEN BETA, the ultimate geometry manager for Revolution is here for free!

[Damien Girard]

Dear Runtime Revolution user,

I am proud to announce you the OPEN BETA release of NativeGeometry 2.0!

NativeGeometry is our latest extension for Runtime Revolution, it is an
enhanced Geometry Manager that help you to develop faster cross-platform
applications, multi-languages application or simply your applications, with
the ease of the use of the Revolution Geometry manager but with the power
and the speed like if you were writing your own scripts!

To check-out more in depth its features, go to the NativeGeometry website:

http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-
-> OPEN PUBLIC BETA

We are inviting everybody to try this new tool, NativeGeometry is now in
beta stage, and in order to have the best quality, we are inviting all of
you to try freely without any limitations NativeGeometry! If you find any
problems, simply report them to the NativeSoft bug tracker.

The NativeGeometry open beta is ending the 14 junes 2010, and the final
release is to be expected at this date :)

More information, download links and sample are on the NativeSoft website:
http://www.nativesoft.net/nativegeometry

-

Also, you can ask "Why NativeGeometry 2.0? Where is 1.0?", the answer is
simple:
- NativeGeometry 1.0 was the NativeSpeak Create 1.0 Geometry manager, so
NativeGeometry is in version 2.0 as it is a complete rewrite from scratch,
with new incredible features!

-


Other news about Dam-pro:

-> NativeSoft

I am pleased to inform you that Dam-pro has been renamed NativeSoft, this
new name match better with our "Native" products lines, and in the future
with the upcoming NativeSpeak 2.0, and I prefer it :)

So all dam-pro.com emails addresses will continue to work, the dam-pro.com
website is now redirecting to http://www.nativesoft.net

-> NativeSpeak 1.x discontinued

NativeSpeak 1.x is discontinued, the application will continue to works and
we will continue the support, but the application will not be updated
anymore, we recommend to new users that want to create a multi-language
application to use NativeGeometry, then the localization process with
NativeSpeak 2.0 will be really easy.

-> Website improved

The Dam-pro website has been improved in order to become the NativeSoft
website, check-it out!

http://www.nativesoft.net



Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft CEO, France.
http://www.nativesoft.net


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[OT] Installing Linux fonts

[Richmond Mathewson]

 [I hope that the thread I am attempting to initiate will, eventually
lead to an understanding of why RunRev does not play 'nicely' with
Linux fonts]

[Ubuntu 10.04  -- Debian deriv.]

1.  open a .ttf font with FontViewer

2. click on 'Install Font' button ;  'Install Failed'

Q1. Is that because I am not root user?

3. attempt to open FontViewer as root:

got "distracted" by Font Manager  /usr/bin

click on 'Manage Fonts' blob at the bottom

navigate to where target font is installed

on selecting font Font Manager opens and "blow me down"
it seems the font has been installed as a system font:

4. Open RunRev: and the target font DOESN'T show up . . . um, mumble, 
mumble, excrement, and so on.


5.  AbiWord (what my sons call "Shabby Word" - never mind, it will 
suffice for now):


 font (Unicode TTF) shows up.

Q2. Could this be because my target font does not have an accompanying 
.conf file 

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Re: Location of stack

[J. Landman Gay]

Jeff Massung wrote:


Summary: menus are a "feature" in Rev that needs completely revamped and
fixed.


I wouldn't mind that, of course, since it does come up often, but I'm 
not sure what the answer would be. Menus work as expected on Windows and 
Linux; we'd need a cross-platform way to implement them on Mac without 
making the developer write branching code.


As far as I can see, the confusion comes from those who don't understand 
the scrolling behavior. Once they get that, it falls into place. But if 
there's an easier solution I'm sure RR would consider it. I just can't 
think of any other way to implement it.


Perhaps menus should be independent objects? Then the engine could 
manage them. There would still be issues with the space at the top of 
the stack, where menus show on two platforms but not on the other. How 
would you handle that?


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Roger . E . Eller]

Malte Pfaff-Brill  wrote:

> Roger: *Yikes*
>
> Of course you are right. Sometimes I do not see the tree from the
forest :-)
> This should work reliably across Windows versions, right?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> malte

I have used $username on WinXP and Win 7. Others, I would expect also to
work, but I have no experience to confirm this.

~Roger Eller


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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Roger: *Yikes*

Of course you are right. Sometimes I do not see the tree from the forest :-)
This should work reliably across Windows versions, right?

Thanks again,

malte

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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Roger . E . Eller]

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Malte Pfaff-Brill  wrote:

> From: Malte Pfaff-Brill 
> Subject: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:05 AM
> Hi all,
>
> I am using this under Vista to identify the currently
> logged in user:
>
> function getUserName
>   local tUser
>   set the hideconsolewindows to true
>   put shell("set user") into tUser
>   set the itemDel to "="
>   repeat for each line theLine in tUser
>      if item 1 of theLine="USERNAME"
> then
>         return item 2 to -1 of theLine
>      end if
>   end repeat
>   return tUser
> end getUserName
>
> Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under
> XP and / or WIn 7, even when not logged in with admin
> rights?
>
> All the best,
>
> malte

Yes, MUCH simpler!  :-)

put $username

~Roger Eller


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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Thank you Mike!

atb,

malte
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Re: Maybe Malte Can Bring Out the word on MacCommunity.de

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Just added my 5 cents (due to inflation)

All the best,

Malte
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Re: Location of stack

[Jeff Massung]

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:42 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> Jeff Massung wrote:
>
>> Oh, please, RunRev gods working on the roadmap... can we *please* get this
>> fixed finally? Menus - like unicode - should "just work" out of the box.
>>
>
> I've never had much trouble with it, aside from the known bug where stacks
> with destroystack set don't always scroll correctly (I think that one is
> fixed for the next version but I can't remember.)
>
>
Just the mere fact that menu issues come up again, and again, and again on
these mailing lists and on the forums tells me that there is a problem. Just
because long-time users of Rev have gotten accustomed to working around
those issues doesn't mean they are no longer there.

I'm reminded of a time when I worked for a company that was bought out for
its technology. The buyers flew their "customers" in to show us how to use
their software so we could integrate some of their features into ours. I was
sitting in a meeting room with them, software running up on the projector
when the person running the meeting started going over all the toolbar
buttons explaining what they did.

In the middle of their explanation, they skipped two toolbar buttons and
continued. I interrupted to ask why those were skipped and asked what they
did. The reply I got floored me... "we don't click those, they crash the
program." I asked how long it had been like that and they answered "years."
No one even knew what they were supposed to do.

Summary: menus are a "feature" in Rev that needs completely revamped and
fixed.

Jeff M.
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Re: Maybe Malte Can Bring Out the word on MacCommunity.de

[René Micout]

In France also :
http://www.macgeneration.com/news/voir/154751/clause-3.3.1-runrev-se-concentrera-sur-android
René


Le 17 mai 2010 à 16:08, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :

> http://maccommunity.de/beitrag/apple-lehnt-hypercard-adaption-revmobile-fuer
> -t506.html/1
> 
> Our spin on the RevMobile situation has gotten some coverage in Germany.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lynn Fredricks
> Mirye Software Publishing
> http://www.mirye.com
> 
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Re: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Michael Kann]

Malte, should work the same under XP. The shell command "set user" gives the 
reply:

userdnsdomain=fake.edu
userdomain=fake_domain
username=fake_name
userprofile=C:\Documents and Settings\mike
---

Can anyone test if this works under XP and / or WIn 7, even when not logged in 
with admin rights?

-- I'm afraid to log in any way except the way I always do it -- I might screw 
something up.

Mike



--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Malte Pfaff-Brill  wrote:

> From: Malte Pfaff-Brill 
> Subject: Getting the currently logged in user under Windows
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:05 AM
> Hi all,
> 
> I am using this under Vista to identify the currently
> logged in user:
> 
> function getUserName
>   local tUser
>   set the hideconsolewindows to true
>   put shell("set user") into tUser
>   set the itemDel to "="
>   repeat for each line theLine in tUser
>      if item 1 of theLine="USERNAME"
> then
>         return item 2 to -1 of theLine
>      end if
>   end repeat
>   return tUser
> end getUserName
> 
> Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under
> XP and / or WIn 7, even when not logged in with admin
> rights?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> malte
> 
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Maybe Malte Can Bring Out the word on MacCommunity.de

[Lynn Fredricks]

http://maccommunity.de/beitrag/apple-lehnt-hypercard-adaption-revmobile-fuer
-t506.html/1

Our spin on the RevMobile situation has gotten some coverage in Germany.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

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Getting the currently logged in user under Windows

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Hi all,

I am using this under Vista to identify the currently logged in user:

function getUserName
  local tUser
  set the hideconsolewindows to true
  put shell("set user") into tUser
  set the itemDel to "="
  repeat for each line theLine in tUser
 if item 1 of theLine="USERNAME" then
return item 2 to -1 of theLine
 end if
  end repeat
  return tUser
end getUserName

Is there a simpler way? Can anyone test if this works under XP and / or WIn 7, 
even when not logged in with admin rights?

All the best,

malte

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Re: Location of stack

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Paul,

I just saw your question on the forum. I'll post the same answer there  
and on this list.


The engine knows the actual height of the card only after loading all  
windows, objects, libraries etc. This is easy to solve, by first  
running all default startup messages (preOpenStack, openStack,  
preOpenCard, openCard, openBackground etc.) and changing the window  
size only afterwards. For example:


global gWindowRect

on preOpenStack
  hide this stack
  readPrefs // your handler to read prefs
  send "setWindowSize" to me in 0 millisecs
  pass preOpenStack
end preOpenStack

on setWindowSize
  set the rect of this stack to gWindowRect
end setWindowSize

Instead of a handler that only sets the rect of the window, you could  
also write a handler that does the complete initialisation of your  
project. It is safe to assume that all necesary libraries are  
available when the initialisation handler runs.


--
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Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
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Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a  
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share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.


On 15 mei 2010, at 18:02, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:

In my program, I write the location of my stack (among other things)  
to a
text file on exit, and then read it and set the location on startup.  
This
works correctly on Windows, but on the Mac, the window moves up by  
12 pixels
every time. This happens both when I run the .rev file or when I run  
my

standalone. I use 'the location of stack "main"' to get and set the
location. I'm using Rev 3.5. Is this a known bug?

--

Ciao,   Paul D. DeRocco
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Re: OT: Very Strict In Many Ways

[Colin Holgate]

On May 17, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:

> Another developer restriction; a very tight ship:
> 
> http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20005000-233.html

With any luck, maybe that one clashed with a standard OS feature (a future one 
in this case). Or maybe they needed to use private internal API calls to pull 
off the trick. Both of those cases would have been disallowed even under the 
older license agreements.


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OT: Very Strict In Many Ways

[Kurt Kaufman]

Another developer restriction; a very tight ship:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20005000-233.html
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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

[Colin Holgate]

On May 16, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/16/mefeedia_html5_survey/


People are still getting confused about what Flash is used for, and think that 
if more sites have an html5 video player option, that the overall use of Flash 
has gone down. That would be like saying that all Rev stacks are just address 
books, and any use of another address book would mean that general use of Rev 
had gone down.


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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

[Richard Gaskin]

Kay C Lan wrote:

Steve may not realise it, but he might have just woken the sleeping
giant - the hoards of twisted individuals who gain pleasure from
writing malicious code.


The iPhone has already been the target of at least two, maybe three 
exploits.


All computing devices are subject to such exposures.

In fact, you don't even need a smart phone to terrorize people through 
phone hacks - older phones work just fine:


Cell Phone Stalkers Harass Washington Family



All phones are inherently less secure than most computers, since with a 
computer you can disconnect it from the network.


The only way to get equivalent security with a phone is to turn it off.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
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Android on iPod Touch

[René Micout]

See here :
http://thenextweb.com/google/2010/05/16/android-on-your-ipod-touch-its-more-likely-than-you-might-think/?awesm=tnw.to_16AOL&utm_medium=tnw.to-twitter&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_content=twitter-publisher-main
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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

[Richmond Mathewson]

 On 17/05/2010 10:13, Kay C Lan wrote:


To me, this is competition and competition is good, very good.



Yes, it probably is nothing more than the grinding together of
competitive forces; but,

Unfortunately:

1.  A lot of small companies and their dedicated clients seem to be
 getting ground up in the process.

2.  Competition CAN be conducted in a gentlemanly fashion; but
 neither Apple nor Adobe seem to think that matters - maybe it
 doesn't from a commercial point of view; they both have enormous
installed bases on which they can depend. However, it makes the
world a whole lot more pleasant if competition can take place
without infantile adverts and name-calling.

Competition is, undoubtedly, a good thing; and as the computer world
is dominated by Microsoft, Adobe and Apple one could argue that not
nearly enough is taking place.

Competition (rather like war [not something I would advocate])
development and innovation.

One of my sadnesses is that, at present, there seems to be no
company in direct competition with RunRev . . .  :)
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Re: OT: Adobe's New Anti Apple Ads

[Kay C Lan]

Alajandro,

I'm with you.

My perception is that Steve is now feverishly flogging the Apple employees
to even higher standards to ensure that 'he is right'. Whilst over at Adobe
they a extremely busy scheming how to get Flash in to all those disgruntle
ex-iPad/Phone developers hands and onto every 'other' mobile device.

To me, this is competition and competition is good, very good.

Unfortunately I do have another opinion though, which isn't so rosey. This
List is by far the most friendly and altruistic bunch of online folks I've
ever had the pleasure of stumbling across, yet even for such a fine bunch I
sensed (hopefully wrongly) some really really REALLY negative vibes over
this topic. Now again, I'm probably wrong, but if anyone on this List should
have expressed anger and frustration, it should have been Kevin, as I figure
he's the one whose lost the most - and added to early events one could
easily sum up that this is a horror year for Kevin. Yet to his credit he
posted to the List to keep everyone up to date on what had occurred and his
road map forward. No anger, no vitriol, no finger pointing, just business.

So, if the friendly people on this List can get all wobbly about what has
happened I can only assume that the unfriendly people who don't frequent
this List must be even more riled, probably completely lost the plot and are
now feverishly plotting revenge. Steve may not realise it, but he might have
just woken the sleeping giant - the hoards of twisted individuals who gain
pleasure from writing malicious code.

The worms are probably headed for Apple right now;-(

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

>
> Actually, i hope that this feud between Apple and Adobe
> could bring more attention from Adobe to Linux and
> Mobile Platforms.
>
> If this is the final result of all this discussion,
> then everybody should said "Thanks Steve!"
>
> :D
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