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[Bob Sneidar]

This guy has not been blocked yet?

Bob


On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:49 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote:

> http://dukulahi.t35.com/
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[Bob Sneidar]

I modified the url in the reply so no one who clicked on it would get to a bad 
place inadvertently. It may be an ad for Viagra, but who knows what else you 
get driving by? 

Bob


On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:25 PM, René Micout wrote:

> It is a spam (for Viagra !)
> 
> Le 21 oct. 2010 à 22:18, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
> 
>> What in the world is this? I am afraid to click on a link when there is 
>> absolutely no explanation about what it is from an address I have never seen 
>> before. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>> http://reguqaru.t35.com/don'tclickme
>>> 
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[René Micout]

It is a spam (for Viagra !)

Le 21 oct. 2010 à 22:18, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> What in the world is this? I am afraid to click on a link when there is 
> absolutely no explanation about what it is from an address I have never seen 
> before. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>> http://reguqaru.t35.com/don'tclickme
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[Richard Gaskin]

Bob Sneidar wrote:


What in the world is this?


Our first spambot.

Already blocked by the ISP (t35.com -- good work).

Looks like we're officially in the big time now. :)

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Re: (no subject)

[François Chaplais]

garbage in, garbage out. This mail has gone directly to the Trash. However, I 
am sure the list mom will be interested by this post.
Best
François
Le 21 oct. 2010 à 22:18, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> What in the world is this? I am afraid to click on a link when there is 
> absolutely no explanation about what it is from an address I have never seen 
> before. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>> http://reguqaru.t35.com/don'tclickme
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[Richmond]

On 10/21/2010 11:18 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

What in the world is this? I am afraid to click on a link when there is 
absolutely no explanation about what it is from an address I have never seen 
before.

Bob


On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://reguqaru.t35.com/don'tclickme



Those of us who live in the Linux world are not quite so frightened of 
this sort of thing.


However that is a dud link and states "The site in question was 
violating our TOS"


obviously something to do with tossers . . .  :)
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[Bob Sneidar]

What in the world is this? I am afraid to click on a link when there is 
absolutely no explanation about what it is from an address I have never seen 
before. 

Bob


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Re: (no subject)

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi Ruslan.

2 things weigh against your assessment. First, one of the databases is  
remote and it happens to be the one I am querying 1 record at a time.  
The second thing is that to my knowledge you cannot create joins  
between 2 tables in different databases. The source database is a  
local file based SQLite database to further complicate matters.


I want to employ a method that could work with databases of 1000  
records or 1,000,000 records. To do that means I cannot risk memory  
overflow in runrev by huge query results. For this particular  
application I would never hit that limit, but what if I want to take  
the functionality of my data import module and make it available by  
itself?it needs to work in all situations or not at all. That's how I  
think.


My goal here is to import/merge data from a Spiceworks database of  
devices, software and other things. But in the future it could be  
anything. I am learning the limitations of querying remote SQL  
servers. For this application I think a local SQL server would be much  
better, but for the dev phase where I am out and about with my laptop  
on-rev will suffice.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
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On May 21, 2010, at 22:58, Ruslan Zasukhin > wrote:



Еexcuse me but this still sounds like a very bad result.
SQL dbs can make joins of thousands records in say .001 sec

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[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 22/5/10 4:17 AM, "Bob Sneidar"  wrote:

Hi Bob,

> UPDATE: 
> 
> Well I discovered what my problem was. I commented out the method I employed
> which used sqlYoga for all the queries, and wrote a new method using only
> RevDB API calls. The sqlYoga method took about 1 to 1.5 seconds per iteration,
> so for 100 single record queries, let's say roughly 2 minutes. The RevDB
> method took less than 10 seconds for 100 queries.


Еexcuse me but this still sounds like a very bad result.
SQL dbs can make joins of thousands records in say .001 sec

What will happens if tomorrow you will need 500 queries?
Your Users will wait 50 seconds?

Even 10 sec of WAIT is terrible for today for user IMO

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Ruslan Zasukhin
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Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: (no subject)

[Haroldo Mauro Jr.]

At 0:06 +0200 19/04/10, Andre.Bisseret wrote:
>Le 18 avr. 10 à 15:34, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :
>
>>At 15:06 +0200 18/04/10, Andre.Bisseret wrote:
>>>Bonjour Haroldo,
>>>Welcome to the list :-)))
>>>
>>>
>>>Le 18 avr. 10 à 13:29, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :
>>>
Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many years, 
since I got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago swiched to  
Supercard, which I've been using a lot.  I've had Revolution Studio for 
over a year but only now am trying to use it more steadly. So, here's what 
I need help with right now.
In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack script is 
not behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution dictionary and found 
this example below, which I tested on my stack and it didn't work, just the 
same:

(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I 
pressed the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed.
>>>
>>>I just made
>>>-  a new main stack
>>>- pasted  the handler above in the stack script
>>>
>>>then it is working as expected. Il I am on card 2 or 3, pressing the up 
>>>arrow key leads me to card 1
>>>
>>>I am on RunRev Enterprise. I havn't RunRev Studio. But I tried with RunRev 
>>>Media, and it is running as expected as well.
>>>
>>>Well, don"t know why it is not the case for you; hav'nt you kept another 
>>>handler somewhere which could interfere? (take precedence over this one)
>>>
>>>Best regards from Grenoble
>>>
>>>André
>>
>>
>>Andre, I opened the stack with Media, but no luck. However, I created a new 
>>stack and it worked (the short one). It seems obvious that the problem is in 
>>the stack.  However, I  converted the same stack to Supercard and that same 
>>script (the long one) works in SC, as well as in Hypercard. I did a search 
>>for arrowKey in the search box and found it only  once, in the stack script.
>>
>>Haroldo
>
>Haroldo,
>
>I had tried only the short one. I just tried your long script on the same 
>stack (I just added " if whichKey is "up" then go to card 1" as a first line, 
>for fun ;-)) but might be useful anyway!
>
>I  assume that your are expecting one is "circling" in the same background 
>when, being on the first card of a bg, one presses the left arrowkey (or the  
>right arrowkey when being on the last card of the bg). If this is the case, 
>then no problem; your script works well in a stack created in rev.
>
>André

Thanks. The right and left arrow keys should do two things in my script. If 
they are pressed together with  the shift Key, they navigate to the first card 
of the next and previous bg, respectively. Without the shift key they should do 
what you just described. But I just made it work by commenting out my whole 
stack script except for the arrowKey handler. Now at least I know where the 
problem is and hope to find out. Thans again.
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[Andre.Bisseret]

Le 18 avr. 10 à 15:34, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :


At 15:06 +0200 18/04/10, Andre.Bisseret wrote:

Bonjour Haroldo,
Welcome to the list :-)))


Le 18 avr. 10 à 13:29, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :

Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many  
years, since I got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago  
swiched to  Supercard, which I've been using a lot.  I've had  
Revolution Studio for over a year but only now am trying to use it  
more steadly. So, here's what I need help with right now.
In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack  
script is not behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution  
dictionary and found this example below, which I tested on my  
stack and it didn't work, just the same:


(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each  
time I pressed the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack  
just closed.


I just made
-  a new main stack
- pasted  the handler above in the stack script

then it is working as expected. Il I am on card 2 or 3, pressing  
the up arrow key leads me to card 1


I am on RunRev Enterprise. I havn't RunRev Studio. But I tried with  
RunRev Media, and it is running as expected as well.


Well, don"t know why it is not the case for you; hav'nt you kept  
another handler somewhere which could interfere? (take precedence  
over this one)


Best regards from Grenoble

André



Andre, I opened the stack with Media, but no luck. However, I  
created a new stack and it worked (the short one). It seems obvious  
that the problem is in the stack.  However, I  converted the same  
stack to Supercard and that same script (the long one) works in SC,  
as well as in Hypercard. I did a search for arrowKey in the search  
box and found it only  once, in the stack script.


Haroldo


Haroldo,

I had tried only the short one. I just tried your long script on the  
same stack (I just added " if whichKey is "up" then go to card 1" as a  
first line, for fun ;-)) but might be useful anyway!


I  assume that your are expecting one is "circling" in the same  
background when, being on the first card of a bg, one presses the left  
arrowkey (or the  right arrowkey when being on the last card of the  
bg). If this is the case, then no problem; your script works well in a  
stack created in rev.


André






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[J. Landman Gay]

Klaus on-rev wrote:


But maybe "go next cd OF THIS BG" is making Rev choke somehow?
Since "...of this bg" is genuine HyperTalk after all...


That still works in Rev. I think the problem is that the arrowkey 
message isn't reaching the handler.


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[J. Landman Gay]

Hi Haroldo, how nice to see you here!


(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
  if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
  else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each
>time I pressed the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack 
just closed.


This is the default behavior for arrowkeys. If you have navigationarrows 
set to true (which you said you do) then the up and down arrows 
basically do a "go back" or a "go forth". When the stack closed, it was 
likely popping to another stack to go to a card there, which you had 
probably visited recently.


Since you are getting the default arrow behavior instead of the scripted 
one, that tells me that your arrowkey message isn't reaching your 
handler for some reason. My first thought was that you might be using a 
card group instead of a background group (and as an HC convert, that's 
something you'll want to read up on,) but since it's an HC import that's 
unlikely unless you've added some groups since you imported the stack.


Because the script works in a new stack, you're right it's probably 
something in that particular stack. I agree that you should probably set 
the hcBehavior of the stack to false; you don't need that in Rev and it 
may clear up some issues. You can still continue to refer to bgs and 
controls the way you are used to, though you'll probably change that 
later as you get used to Rev.


About the advice to separate the data from the interface -- it's good 
advice. Rev isn't meant to use cards as a database. But to be honest, I 
wouldn't worry about that for now. If you have under 5,000 cards in the 
stack it will work just as it does in HC and I'd keep that structure 
until you've learned a little more about Rev. One thing at a time. If 
this stack is just for your own use, you may not want to change its 
database structure at all. I still use a number of old HC stacks in Rev 
that keep databases -- for example, I have an address book stack with 
one record per person and it works just fine. I don't even know 5,000 
people. :)


If you can't isolate the arrowkey problem, feel free to upload the stack 
somewhere and post a link to the list. You'll probably get a lot of 
solutions once we can see the scripts.


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Re: (no subject)

[Haroldo Mauro Jr.]

At 15:06 +0200 18/04/10, Andre.Bisseret wrote:
>Bonjour Haroldo,
>Welcome to the list :-)))
>
>
>Le 18 avr. 10 à 13:29, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :
>
>>Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many years, since 
>>I got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago swiched to  Supercard, which 
>>I've been using a lot.  I've had Revolution Studio for over a year but only 
>>now am trying to use it more steadly. So, here's what I need help with right 
>>now.
>>In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack script is 
>>not behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution dictionary and found 
>>this example below, which I tested on my stack and it didn't work, just the 
>>same:
>>
>>(example from Rev dictionary)
>>on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
>> if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
>> else pass arrowKey
>>end arrowKey
>>
>>Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I pressed 
>>the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed.
>
>I just made
>-  a new main stack
>- pasted  the handler above in the stack script
>
>then it is working as expected. Il I am on card 2 or 3, pressing the up arrow 
>key leads me to card 1
>
>I am on RunRev Enterprise. I havn't RunRev Studio. But I tried with RunRev 
>Media, and it is running as expected as well.
>
>Well, don"t know why it is not the case for you; hav'nt you kept another 
>handler somewhere which could interfere? (take precedence over this one)
>
>Best regards from Grenoble
>
>André


Andre, I opened the stack with Media, but no luck. However, I created a new 
stack and it worked (the short one). It seems obvious that the problem is in 
the stack.  However, I  converted the same stack to Supercard and that same 
script (the long one) works in SC, as well as in Hypercard. I did a search for 
arrowKey in the search box and found it only  once, in the stack script.

Haroldo
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[Andre.Bisseret]

Bonjour Haroldo,
Welcome to the list :-)))


Le 18 avr. 10 à 13:29, Haroldo Mauro Jr. a écrit :

Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many  
years, since I got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago  
swiched to  Supercard, which I've been using a lot.  I've had  
Revolution Studio for over a year but only now am trying to use it  
more steadly. So, here's what I need help with right now.
In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack  
script is not behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution  
dictionary and found this example below, which I tested on my stack  
and it didn't work, just the same:


(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
 if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
 else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time  
I pressed the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just  
closed.


I just made
-  a new main stack
- pasted  the handler above in the stack script

then it is working as expected. Il I am on card 2 or 3, pressing the  
up arrow key leads me to card 1


I am on RunRev Enterprise. I havn't RunRev Studio. But I tried with  
RunRev Media, and it is running as expected as well.


Well, don"t know why it is not the case for you; hav'nt you kept  
another handler somewhere which could interfere? (take precedence over  
this one)


Best regards from Grenoble

André



Here's my original handler, from the Hypercard stack script, which  
doens't work:

(handler is in stack script)
on arrowKey whichKey
 if whichKey is "right" then
   if the optionKey is down then
 go first card of next bg
   else
 go next card of this bg
   end if
 end if
 if whichKey is "left" then
   if the optionKey is down then
 go last card of previous bg
   else
 go previous card of this bg
   end if
 end if
end arrowKey

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Harold
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Re: (no subject)

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi all,

> On 18/04/2010 14:40, Klaus on-rev wrote:
>> Bom dias Haroldo,
>> 
>>> ...
>>> ...
>> 
>> I tend to use "switch" since this makes scripts better readable than lots of
>> nested "if... then" statements.
>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>> Harold
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
> seems unnecessarily long . . .  :)

Maybe...

I have to apologize Haroldo, the logic in your script is correct!

But maybe "go next cd OF THIS BG" is making Rev choke somehow?
Since "...of this bg" is genuine HyperTalk after all...


Best

Klaus

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[Richmond Mathewson]

 On 18/04/2010 14:40, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Bom dias Haroldo,


...

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I pressed 
the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed.

you have a little error in your logic, that's why!


Here's my original handler, from the Hypercard stack script, which doens't work:
(handler is in stack script)
on arrowKey whichKey
  if whichKey is "right" then
if the optionKey is down then
  go first card of next bg
else

## ELSE here means EVERYTHING but "right"!
## Therefore every arrowkey but "right" goes to the next card!


  go next card of this bg
end if
  end if
  if whichKey is "left" then
if the optionKey is down then
  go last card of previous bg
else
  go previous card of this bg
end if
  end if
end arrowKey

Use this instead:


on arrowkey tKey
   switch tKey
   case "right"
   if the optionKey is down then
 go first card of next bg
 else
go next card of this bg
 end if
   break
   case "left"
  if the optionKey is down then
   go last card of previous bg
 else
go previous card of this bg
  end if
break

# Now let all other arrowkeys pass
default
  pass arrowkey
 break
  end switch
end arrowkey

I tend to use "switch" since this makes scripts better readable than lots of
nested "if... then" statements.


Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Harold

Best

Klaus


seems unnecessarily long . . .  :)
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Re: (no subject)

[Richmond Mathewson]

 On 18/04/2010 14:29, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:

Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many years, since I 
got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago swiched to  Supercard, which 
I've been using a lot.  I've had Revolution Studio for over a year but only now 
am trying to use it more steadly. So, here's what I need help with right now.
In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack script is not 
behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution dictionary and found this 
example below, which I tested on my stack and it didn't work, just the same:

(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
   if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
   else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey


Just tried that script: NO; doesnt work: documentation is misleading.

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I pressed 
the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed.

Here's my original handler, from the Hypercard stack script, which doens't work:
(handler is in stack script)
on arrowKey whichKey
   if whichKey is "right" then
 if the optionKey is down then
   go first card of next bg
 else
   go next card of this bg
 end if
   end if
   if whichKey is "left" then
 if the optionKey is down then
   go last card of previous bg
 else
   go previous card of this bg
 end if
   end if
end arrowKey

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Harold


My experience favours rawKeyDown:

on rawKeyDown  RAWK
  if RAWK is 65363 then go to card 1
else pass rawKeyDown
end rawKeyDown

of course finding the keynumbers is a bit of a pain, so
why not download this little thingy to make your life
a bit easier:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/STUFF/KEYDOWNER.rev.zip

all the best, Richmond.
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Re: (no subject)

[Klaus on-rev]

Bom dias Haroldo,

> ...
> 
> Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I pressed 
> the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed. 

you have a little error in your logic, that's why!

> Here's my original handler, from the Hypercard stack script, which doens't 
> work:
> (handler is in stack script)
> on arrowKey whichKey
>  if whichKey is "right" then
>if the optionKey is down then
>  go first card of next bg
>else

## ELSE here means EVERYTHING but "right"!
## Therefore every arrowkey but "right" goes to the next card!

>  go next card of this bg
>end if
>  end if
>  if whichKey is "left" then
>if the optionKey is down then
>  go last card of previous bg
>else
>  go previous card of this bg
>end if
>  end if
> end arrowKey

Use this instead:


on arrowkey tKey
  switch tKey
  case "right"
  if the optionKey is down then
go first card of next bg
else
   go next card of this bg
end if
  break
  case "left"
 if the optionKey is down then
  go last card of previous bg
else
   go previous card of this bg
 end if
   break

   # Now let all other arrowkeys pass
   default
 pass arrowkey
break
 end switch
end arrowkey

I tend to use "switch" since this makes scripts better readable than lots of 
nested "if... then" statements.

> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
> Harold

Best

Klaus

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Re: (no subject)

[Trevor DeVore]

On May 2, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Shao Sean wrote:

modified it some to be a little cleaner as well as allowing the data  
grid to know that it is sorting on the custom sorted column..


In the current release version of the data grid there are two issues  
when performing a custom sort within SortDataGridColumn.


The first is that you can't set the dgIndexes property in order to  
change the sort of the indexes. This doesn't affect your example  
because you seem to be storing "size" as a hidden column in your table  
and then using SortDataByKey to do the sort.


The second issue is that there is no easy way of updating the internal  
props and UI to reflect the currently sorted column.


I've uploaded a test build of the library (1.0 build 8) which  
addresses these issues. You can now set the dgIndexes property and I  
created a handler out of existing data grid code that updates internal  
props and UI: HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn. HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn  
is meant to be called from within SortDataGridColumn when you are  
performing a custom sort.


I also switched the sorting so that it occurs on mouseup rather than  
mousedown.






Here is an example of using HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn and dgIndexes  
in on SortDataGridColumn. Note that this is only required if you are  
performing a custom sort.



on SortDataGridColumn pColumn
switch pColumn
case "MySpecialColumn"
## Update UI and 'sort by column'
HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn "MySpecialColumn"

## Get ready to perform custom sort.
put the dgIndexes of me into theIndexes -- so we  
perform a stable sort
put the dgData of the dgControl of me into theDataA  
-- get data so we can create sort list


## Create list of indexes and the key to sort by
repeat for each item theIndex in theIndexes
put theIndex & tab & theDataA[theIndex] 
["MySpecialColumn"] & cr after theData

end repeat
delete the last char of theData

## At this point you can apply your special sort  
function to item 2 to -1 of theData


## Now update the indexes of the data grid so new  
order is reflected.

put empty into theIndexes
   repeat for each line theLine in theData
   put item 1 of theLine & comma after theIndexes
   end repeat
   delete the last char of theIndexes

   ## Setting the dgIndexes will update the sort order  
and redraw data.

   set the dgIndexes of the dgControl of me to theIndexes

break
default
pass SortDataGridColumn
end switch
end SortDataGridColumn



Here are some notes to your sort handler.


command sortDataGridColumn pColumn
 constant kColumnSize = "size"
 local tOldSortKey
 lock screen

 switch (pColumn)
   case kColumnSize
 lock messages
 put the dgProps["sort by column"] of me into tOldSortKey


## Note: You no longer need to set the 'sort by column' here. It is  
set in HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn

 set the dgProps["sort by column"] of me to kColumnSize



## Note: This code a) won't work and b) has already been handled at  
this point.
##   A) because you have messages locked and  
dgColumnSortDirection is a custom property using get/setProp.
##   B) Changing of ascending/descending is handled when you  
click on the column header. This happens before

##SortDataGRidColumn is called.

 if (the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me = "ascending")  
then
   set the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me to  
"descending"

 else
   set the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me to "ascending"
 end if
 unlock messages


## Note: FYI: I believe this gives you the exact same behavior as  
setting the column sort to "numeric" in the property inspector.

##based on the code you aren't doing anything differently.
 sortDataByKey kColumnSize, "numeric", the  
dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me, FALSE




## Note: this is no longer needed with HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn.
 set the dgHilite of group tOldSortKey of group "dgHeader" to  
FALSE

 set the dgHilite of group kColumnSize of group "dgHeader" to TRUE
 break
   default
 pass sortDataGridColumn
 break
 end switch
end sortDataGridColumn



Here is an example of SortDataGridColumn using updated data grid  
library:


on SortDataGridColumn pColumn
constant kColumnSize = "size"

switch pColumn
case kColumnSize
HiliteAndStoreSortByColumn kColumnSize
SortDataByKey kColumnSize, "numeric", the  
dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me, FALSE

break
default
pass SortDataGridColumn
end switch
end Sort

Re: (no subject)

[Kay C Lan]

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:43 PM, bar...@libero.it  wrote:

> That's why I read all the digests every day and just wait for the
> tip I need to turn up, although it makes me feel like a lurker which is a
> name
> I don't like.


That's easy to solve, make another post. At two posts you are officially no
longer a lurker and are upgraded to full question posting privileges ;-)
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Re: (no subject)

[J. Landman Gay]

bar...@libero.it wrote:
I am getting quite frustrated with this list. Everytime I get up enough courage 
to ask a question somebody throws in an example, to somebody else, which 
answers it! That's why I read all the digests every day and just wait for the 
tip I need to turn up, although it makes me feel like a lurker which is a name 
I don't like.
I just wanted to acknowledge this and say  thanks to ALL of you 
for the kind help. It may be a slower method of learning but it's certainly 
more enjoyable than wading through the Docs. Also the Docs don't have backchat 
as well.  {;-)) 
Just please keep it up.


:) I say post anyway. We'll just answer the question twice.

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Re: (no subject)

[Richmond Mathewson]

Barry :) Hugs and Kisses, Man!

The backchat is what its all about!

I know it sounds corny, and straight out of the 'summer of love'
but I like to think of the RunRev Use-LIst as:

Livin', Lovin', and Programmin' (and, just possibly . . . Abusin')

And, you bet, that's going to catch some backchat!

bar...@libero.it wrote:
I am getting quite frustrated with this list. Everytime I get up enough courage 
to ask a question somebody throws in an example, to somebody else, which 
answers it! That's why I read all the digests every day and just wait for the 
tip I need to turn up, although it makes me feel like a lurker which is a name 
I don't like.
I just wanted to acknowledge this and say  thanks to ALL of you 
for the kind help. It may be a slower method of learning but it's certainly 
more enjoyable than wading through the Docs. Also the Docs don't have backchat 
as well.  {;-)) 
Just please keep it up.

Barry
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Re: (no subject)

[David Bovill]

Everyone gets frustrated from time to time Barry! It's actually really hard
to communicate via email, a problem with a graphic interface you have, and a
language you are learning - so the result can often be - well frustration :)

It's great to post questions, especially if you can copy and paste some code
snippets so people can give concrete help back. And remember that if you are
having a problem - you can bet that there will be several other people with
the same problems - so a clear post will not only help you but them as well.
So thanks for posting!

NB - if I were learning, I'd certainly look into adding "code completion".
GLX2 provides this, and I "think" there is even a free plugin they provide,
if you don;t want to buy their editor which as a user I'd highly recommend.

2009/5/3 bar...@libero.it 

> I am getting quite frustrated with this list. Everytime I get up enough
> courage
> to ask a question somebody throws in an example, to somebody else, which
> answers it! That's why I read all the digests every day and just wait for
> the
> tip I need to turn up, although it makes me feel like a lurker which is a
> name
> I don't like.
> I just wanted to acknowledge this and say  thanks to ALL of you
> for the kind help. It may be a slower method of learning but it's certainly
> more enjoyable than wading through the Docs. Also the Docs don't have
> backchat
> as well.  {;-))
> Just please keep it up.
> Barry
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Re: (no subject)

[Bernard Devlin]

Hi Nhan,
The GLX2 script editor has this (but this script editor is a product you
must buy to use with Rev).

http://www.runrev.com/products/related-software/glx2/

It has a feature called 'clairvoyance' (= reading your thoughts).  This is
something like code-assist in other programming environments.

I haven't used GLX2 myself for the last 6 months or so because I was getting
a lot of crashes with Rev on Windows and Linux, so I went  back to using
plain old Rev on OS X.

There may be a demo version you can try to see if you like the way it works.
 Personally, I think it is quite wonderful, and I do miss its features.

Bernard

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As I known, in Visual .Net has a plug-in called "Visual Assist" with
> symbol "Apple". It helps developers in coding remember the syntax, key
> word, properties...to avoid typing mistakes. Are there any the same one
> in Run Rev?
>
> Thanks so much
> Nhan
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Re: (no subject)

[Mark Schonewille]

gratuliere!

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On 19 sep 2008, at 00:31, Peter Baral wrote:




Von meinem iPhone gesendet


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Re: (no subject)

[Mark Schonewille]

congrats

Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 27 apr 2008, at 18:06, Sadhu Nadesan wrote:




Sadhu Nadesan
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Re: (no subject)

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Mark

At first sight, but I may be wrong, hiding and showing just involves  
a screen refresh but does not set any data and does not make the  
engine sending close/open messages, etc. so it could appear faster.

The best could be to test?
And share your results :-)

Le 6 avr. 08 à 17:58, Mark Greenberg a écrit :
My students are animating three characters on a card by hiding and  
showing .png images against a background.  Each character has a  
dozen moves or so, and each move has between 5 and ten frames.   
Each figure is approximately 400 x 600 pixels in size.  My question  
is which would be faster, having the frames be separate image  
objects and using hide/show; or having just three image objects  
that draw their contents from images on another card with a repeat  
loop and something like...


Put image "p1punch" & frameNo of Card 2 into image "Player1Main"?

Speed is important because we are starting to reach the limit of  
the computers' ability to display the images.


Thanks in advance,

Mark Greenberg



Best regards from Paris,
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Re: (no subject)

[Mark Smith]

Or, following Ken Ray, I just have

function q

and

function sq  -- for single quotes, which can be handy for shell scripts

Best,

Mark

On 13 Dec 2007, at 17:58, Dave wrote:


I find this function REALLY useful for AppleScripting:

function AddQuotes theString
return quote & theString & quote
end AddQuotes

All the Best
Dave


On 11 Dec 2007, at 18:44, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:

Thanks Ken, i was using a custom prop and ran it as applescript.   
Works fine.  What i still dont understand is why everything went  
unresponsive (the finder) and why it now works... Maddening.

What might happen tomorrow?
-Original Message-
From: "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 12/11/2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


Your AppleScript should look something like this:
--3 lines, watch line wraps

tell application "Finder"
   open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
end tell

Your Rev script should look like this:
--a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
--the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place

do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open  
folder " &
quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr  
& "end

tell" as applescript



Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are "best
practices") when executing AppleScript from Rev...

1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it
(although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons):

  do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript

2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation  
feature to

help make your code more readable:

  put "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" into tFolder
  put "tell application" && quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & \
"open folder" && quote & tFolder & quote & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script,
then replace them with double quotes before you execute your  
script (a

variation of #2 above is shown below):

  put "tell application`Finder` & cr & \
"open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder`" &  
cr & \

"end tell" into tScript
  replace "`" with quote in tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\") and returns  
(\n) on

the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with
format IIRC):

  put format("tell application \"Finder\"\n") & \
format("open folder \"Macintosh
HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\"\n") & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I
use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-)

Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do "do ...  
as ...

" supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows),
having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important,
IMHO.


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: (no subject)

[Dave]

I find this function REALLY useful for AppleScripting:

function AddQuotes theString
return quote & theString & quote
end AddQuotes

All the Best
Dave


On 11 Dec 2007, at 18:44, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:

Thanks Ken, i was using a custom prop and ran it as applescript.   
Works fine.  What i still dont understand is why everything went  
unresponsive (the finder) and why it now works... Maddening.

What might happen tomorrow?
-Original Message-
From: "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 12/11/2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)


Your AppleScript should look something like this:
--3 lines, watch line wraps

tell application "Finder"
   open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
end tell

Your Rev script should look like this:
--a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
--the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place

do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open  
folder " &
quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr  
& "end

tell" as applescript



Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are "best
practices") when executing AppleScript from Rev...

1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it
(although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons):

  do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript

2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation feature to
help make your code more readable:

  put "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" into tFolder
  put "tell application" && quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & \
"open folder" && quote & tFolder & quote & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script,
then replace them with double quotes before you execute your script (a
variation of #2 above is shown below):

  put "tell application`Finder` & cr & \
"open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder`" & cr  
& \

"end tell" into tScript
  replace "`" with quote in tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\") and returns (\n) on
the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with
format IIRC):

  put format("tell application \"Finder\"\n") & \
format("open folder \"Macintosh
HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\"\n") & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I
use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-)

Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do "do ... as ...
" supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows),
having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important,
IMHO.


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: (no subject)

[Kay C Lan]

On Dec 12, 2007 12:56 AM, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are "best
> practices") when executing AppleScript from Rev...
>

As usual, some excellent advice from the experts.

Thanks for sharing.
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[Randall Lee Reetz]

Thanks Ken, i was using a custom prop and ran it as applescript.  Works fine.  
What i still dont understand is why everything went unresponsive (the finder) 
and why it now works... Maddening. 
What might happen tomorrow?
-Original Message-
From: "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 12/11/2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

> Your AppleScript should look something like this:
> --3 lines, watch line wraps
> 
> tell application "Finder"
>open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
> end tell
> 
> Your Rev script should look like this:
> --a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
> --the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place
> 
> do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open folder " &
> quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr & "end
> tell" as applescript


Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are "best 
practices") when executing AppleScript from Rev... 

1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it 
(although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons):

  do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript

2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation feature to 
help make your code more readable:

  put "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" into tFolder
  put "tell application" && quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & \
"open folder" && quote & tFolder & quote & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script, 
then replace them with double quotes before you execute your script (a 
variation of #2 above is shown below):

  put "tell application`Finder` & cr & \
"open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder`" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  replace "`" with quote in tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\") and returns (\n) on 
the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with 
format IIRC):

  put format("tell application \"Finder\"\n") & \
format("open folder \"Macintosh 
HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\"\n") & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I 
use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-)

Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do "do ... as ... 
" supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows), 
having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important, 
IMHO.


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Re: (no subject)

[Ken Ray]

> Your AppleScript should look something like this:
> --3 lines, watch line wraps
> 
> tell application "Finder"
>open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
> end tell
> 
> Your Rev script should look like this:
> --a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
> --the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place
> 
> do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open folder " &
> quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr & "end
> tell" as applescript


Just FYI, there's a couple of other approaches (some are "best 
practices") when executing AppleScript from Rev... 

1) Put the script into a custom property or field and execute it 
(although I wouldn't recommend fields for a variety of reasons):

  do (the openFolderScript of this stack) as AppleScript

2) If you need to do it inline, use the \ line continuation feature to 
help make your code more readable:

  put "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" into tFolder
  put "tell application" && quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & \
"open folder" && quote & tFolder & quote & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

3) Use backquotes (`) for quotation marks while building your script, 
then replace them with double quotes before you execute your script (a 
variation of #2 above is shown below):

  put "tell application`Finder` & cr & \
"open folder `Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder`" & cr & \
"end tell" into tScript
  replace "`" with quote in tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

4) Use the format() function to put in quotes (\") and returns (\n) on 
the fly (be careful though as you can't use continuation chars with 
format IIRC):

  put format("tell application \"Finder\"\n") & \
format("open folder \"Macintosh 
HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder\"\n") & \
"end tell" into tScript
  do tScript as AppleScript

Personally, I usually use #3 unless it's a one-liner, in which case I 
use #4 (if it's not too complex), but to each their own. :-)

Also with the upcoming Rev 2.9 having the ability to do "do ... as ... 
" supporting VBScript and JavaScript (on Windows), 
having a good way to handle other scripting languages is important, 
IMHO.


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RE: (no subject)

[Randall Lee Reetz]

Thnks, what i was up against last night seems like it might be a "permissions" 
problem as i recently had to rebuild my computer's data from a backup.  Thanks 
for the help.

-Original Message-
From: "Kay C Lan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "How to use Revolution" 
Sent: 12/10/2007 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

On Dec 11, 2007 6:32 AM, Randall Lee Reetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Struggling with AppleScript.
>

Aren't we all;-) (once you've got use to xTalk)

First we'll start with the last problem

Also, before my
> reboot this morning, my computer wouldn't open folders from the Doc
> Bar.  What could these problems be caused by?  Any ideas?
>

First, try using Disk Utility to 'Repair Permissions'. If that doesn't help,
drag the current Icon of the folder off the Dock and then Drag the required
folder back onto the Dock.

>
> Also, and I have no idea if this is related, copy and paste is not
> working (on my 1GHz PowerBook PowerPC G4 10.4.11).


Depends on what your referring to. If you are talking about keyboard
shortcuts in Rev IDE, or using AppleScript (and I believe the Windows
equivalent or other programs like perl) to copy data to the clipboard and
then use Rev to manipulate it, unfortunately there is a long history of this
being a 'intermittent' hard to reproduce problem. Although for keyboard
shortcuts the usual response is use the menu items, as these reliably work

>
> All I want to do is run a script that opens a finder folder from a
> path (i.e . Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder:).
>
> Well, this morning it works (after a reboot).  Last night it
> wouldn't.  Same exact script... from Script Editor and from SuperCard
> (oops).
>

Your AppleScript should look something like this:
--3 lines, watch line wraps

tell application "Finder"
   open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
end tell

Your Rev script should look like this:
--a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
--the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place

do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open folder " &
quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr & "end
tell" as applescript

If the idea is that you want your program to open the actual folder so a
user knows where they are, the above approach is OK, if on the other hand
you simply want to open the folder to determine what the contents are, or to
be able to save files into it, there are quicker and easier ways in Rev to
do that.

HTH
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Re: (no subject)

[Kay C Lan]

On Dec 11, 2007 6:32 AM, Randall Lee Reetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Struggling with AppleScript.
>

Aren't we all;-) (once you've got use to xTalk)

First we'll start with the last problem

Also, before my
> reboot this morning, my computer wouldn't open folders from the Doc
> Bar.  What could these problems be caused by?  Any ideas?
>

First, try using Disk Utility to 'Repair Permissions'. If that doesn't help,
drag the current Icon of the folder off the Dock and then Drag the required
folder back onto the Dock.

>
> Also, and I have no idea if this is related, copy and paste is not
> working (on my 1GHz PowerBook PowerPC G4 10.4.11).


Depends on what your referring to. If you are talking about keyboard
shortcuts in Rev IDE, or using AppleScript (and I believe the Windows
equivalent or other programs like perl) to copy data to the clipboard and
then use Rev to manipulate it, unfortunately there is a long history of this
being a 'intermittent' hard to reproduce problem. Although for keyboard
shortcuts the usual response is use the menu items, as these reliably work

>
> All I want to do is run a script that opens a finder folder from a
> path (i.e . Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder:).
>
> Well, this morning it works (after a reboot).  Last night it
> wouldn't.  Same exact script... from Script Editor and from SuperCard
> (oops).
>

Your AppleScript should look something like this:
--3 lines, watch line wraps

tell application "Finder"
   open folder "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder"
end tell

Your Rev script should look like this:
--a do statement is single line so you'll need to unwrap this
--the tricky bit is quotes and spaces in the right place

do "tell application " & quote & "Finder" & quote & cr & "open folder " &
quote & "Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder" & quote & cr & "end
tell" as applescript

If the idea is that you want your program to open the actual folder so a
user knows where they are, the above approach is OK, if on the other hand
you simply want to open the folder to determine what the contents are, or to
be able to save files into it, there are quicker and easier ways in Rev to
do that.

HTH
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Re: (no subject)

[Ken Ray]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:50:33 -0700, Robert Sneidar wrote:

> Hi All.
> 
> I am having an issue that I know was addressed in a previous post but 
> I cannot seem to find it. I have established some functions to work 
> with mySQL databases, and all is working fine except that whenever I 
> build an SQL statement with values that include commas, carriage 
> returns and the like, it hoses the sql statement. Isn't there a way 
> of delimiting reserved characters in an sql statement? Something like 
> preceding them with a backslash?

Yes, but only for certain chars that would cause problems in queries 
like a single quote. If you have carriage returns, you'll have to 
replace the CRs with some other character for storage, and then convert 
them back when you retrieve the data.


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: (no subject)

[J. Landman Gay]

hibis.jmr1 wrote:

Hello everyone,

I would like to insert in my application a little music generated by 
code and not by recording it previously.


I remember, when using hyperCard (it was the good time), this was very 
simple, fo instance :

play "boing" "f#5w c#3e a#4w"

is there a way to do something like that with revolution (I have not 
found in the documentation)


Any suggestion to go this way ?



You can't do it with Revolution directly, but there is a work-around here:



Shakobox only works with QuickTime musical instruments, and is a bit 
easier on Macs than on Windows. On Windows, writing to a file works best 
(writing to console is broken, I think.) The original author is no 
longer supporting this, so it is now offered as-is.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: (no subject)

[Robert Mann]

Thanks 
I looked at that site but did not find a way to filter it so I just ran the
complete query then filtered it after seems to work fine

Thanks
Rob

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor DeVore
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:01 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: (no subject)

On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Robert Mann wrote:

> Thanks Trevor,
> I got this working but is there a way to do this for selected columns
> Something like
>
> gfields is a list of fields separated by comma
>
>
> put "SHOW "& gfields &" COLUMNS FROM `" & gtable & "`" into theSQL
>
> this does not work get
>
> revdberr,You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that
> corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to  
> use near
> '(addyrmodperm_id,tunername)COLUMNS FROM `addyrmodsize_permission`'  
> at line
> 1

I haven't tried filtering before but maybe you can get some ideas  
from this page:

<http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/show-columns.html>

-- 
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Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com
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Re: (no subject)

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Robert Mann wrote:


Thanks Trevor,
I got this working but is there a way to do this for selected columns
Something like

gfields is a list of fields separated by comma


put "SHOW "& gfields &" COLUMNS FROM `" & gtable & "`" into theSQL

this does not work get

revdberr,You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that
corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to  
use near
'(addyrmodperm_id,tunername)COLUMNS FROM `addyrmodsize_permission`'  
at line

1


I haven't tried filtering before but maybe you can get some ideas  
from this page:




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RE: (no subject)

[Robert Mann]

Thanks Trevor, 
I got this working but is there a way to do this for selected columns
Something like

gfields is a list of fields separated by comma


put "SHOW "& gfields &" COLUMNS FROM `" & gtable & "`" into theSQL

this does not work get

revdberr,You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that
corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near
'(addyrmodperm_id,tunername)COLUMNS FROM `addyrmodsize_permission`' at line
1

Thanks
Rob

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Re: (no subject)

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jan 20, 2007, at 6:18 AM, Robert Mann wrote:


I know there is a way to get the column type using

revDatabaseColumnTypes(firstcurID)

is there also a way to get all the other information about the  
column such

as PK, and the column type value   int(10)


I think you need to use the database specific queries for this  
information.  Here are ones for mysql, sqlite and postgresql (I  
*think* the postgresql one is right):


put "mytable" into pTable

SWITCH theDBType# get query to extract table info
CASE "mysql"
put "SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `" & pTable & "`" into theSQL
break
CASE "sqlite"
put "PRAGMA table_info(" & quote & pTable & quote & ")" into 
theSQL
break
CASE "postgresql"
		put "SELECT column_name FROM information_schema.columns WHERE  
table_name = '" & pTable & "'" into theSQL

break
END SWITCH

Using one of the above queries and open a cursor.  You should then  
get one record for each field.


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Re: (no subject)

[Shepherd, Dwayne J.]

Dear
Sir i receive your email. 

-- Original Message --
From: "Bob Earp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: How to use Revolution 
Date:  Thu, 11 May 2006 07:59:27 -0700

>Thanks Phil.  I too tried resizing the flds but the group is a bg obj and it 
>then grows to encroach on other areas, plus the blank/space didn't work for me 
>either.  I was hoping there is an undocumented property of flds that looks 
>after vertical alignment.  If there is then this list would certainly know 
>about it !!
> 
>best, Bob...
> 
>~~~
>From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Fld text vertical alignment - 
>fld animationTo: How to use Revolution 
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: 
>text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Okay, I was a little too quick. 
>As I reread your request, you're looking for a way to grow and shrink the text 
>without changing the rect of the field, correct? I think your only other 
>option is to have a blank line (containing a space, or maybe empty would work) 
>at the top of each menu field, and let that first line grow and shrink in the 
>opposite direction of the rest of the text, so the text remains centered 
>vertically in the field. However, I messed around with that idea for a few 
>minutes and was not able to make it work as well as the 'grow/shrink field' 
>approach. You could indeed kluge it together by having your menu text in 
>borderless transparent fields that sit on top of fields with visible borders. 
>That would give
  you the visual effect I think you're after. Phil
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Re: (no subject)

[Wally Rodriguez]

This is what I use in one of my solutions:

put fld "quiz_item1" & tab into fld "data field" of stack "data sample"
put fld "quiz_item2" & tab after fld "data field" of stack "data sample"

Then write out, etc., etc.

If you want the data to go to the next line instead of being  
separated by tabs then


put fld "quiz_item1" & return into fld "data field" of stack "data  
sample"
put fld "quiz_item12" & return after fld "data field" of stack "data  
sample"



W.

On Mar 6, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Ben Bock wrote:

What is the correct syntax for Rev to append data to the next line  
in a text file?


I have a quiz in a standalone, and when the participant finishes,  
the file needs to save.  the next particpant's scores should go on  
the next line.  I use a button at the end of the quiz:



on mouseUp

set itemDelimiter to tab

put fld "quiz_item1" into item 1 of line 1 of field "data field" of  
stack "data sample"


put fld "quiz_item2" into item 2 of line 1 of field "data field" of  
stack "data sample"


put fld "data field " into url "file:test data.txt"

get url "file:test data.txt"

put it into fld "sample field that proves to me something is going  
to the test data file"


save url "file:test data.txt"

end mouseUp



1) So how do I get the next person's data to enter the next line  
and save, without over writing the previous person's data?




2) Do you see flaws in this approach?



My frustration with the Rev docs disappears when I use this support  
forum.  Thanks, as always, for the help.




Ben
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How to Download Data from the Internet (was: Re: (no subject))

[Eric Chatonet]

Hi Dahiya,

The "How to Download Data from the Internet" tutorial might help you:
This stack explains how to test the user connection, an url validity,  
why and how to use get url or load url, retrieve data from framed  
pages, give an account of download progress, manage errors, display  
retrieved data (web pages, stacks, compressed or not), etc.


You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.

You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/.
Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

Le 24 janv. 06 à 18:15, DAHIYA Nitesh a écrit :


hi..
i have a this question..
i m getting a stack from the server and launching it..
what i want to know is that whether i can get the status that the  
stack

is downloded or not


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Re: (no subject)

[Klaus Major]

Hi DAHIYA,


hi..
i have a this question..
i m getting a stack from the server and launching it..
what i want to know is that whether i can get the status that the  
stack

is downloded or not


you can do so, but then you will have to "load" that stack and NOT  
just "go" to it!


Check the docs for "load".


thank u


Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: (no subject)

[Pierre Bernaert]

Thanks Xavier,

Your information allowed me to solve the problem on a pure PC + XP

But did not resolved the trouble with Soft PC

It did change something but not all characters .

Thanks anyway

Cheers

Pierre


PS I send a new mail called "(no subject) QWERTY / AZERTY with  
Virtual PC"


I achieve it OK on Windows XP, using the controls given by "Regions  
Option".


But it didn't work with virtual PC and Windows 2000
If I choose "Fr" I'm still in QWERTY (Rev and Words too)
If I choose   "EN" then I get "AZERTY" as far as 'Normal" alpha  
characters are concerned but screwed  with Special characters as " &  
and so on.


Le 4 janv. 06 à 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


Rev shouldn't have anything to do regarding what keyboard is in use.

The only place where that can be set is in your PC's control panel  
(or the

taskbar icon if you have one).


I achieve it OK on Windows XP, using the controls given by "Regions  
Option".


But it didn't work with virtual PC and Windows 2000
If I choose "Fr" I'm still in QWERTY (Rev and Words too)
If I choose   "EN" then I get "AZERTY" as far as 'Normal" alpha  
characters are concerned but screwed  with Special characters as " &  
and so on.




Note that Rev will not see the keyboard change so you need to quit and
start over to see it changed.

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/01/2006 11:01:34:


Looking for PC Expert Help,

Working on Mac I'm developing an application I'd like to work on both
sides of the frontier.

I do most of  my test using "Virtual PC".

As far as "Controls" are concerned I'm fine.

I began to use the Keyboard to enter data and got into trouble: the
keyboard was working as "QWERTY"  KB although mine was an "AZERTY"

As I didn't find any explanation I installed Rev 1.6.1 on a true XP
machine and got the same trouble:

Revolution itself when scripting was considering the KeyBoard as
"Qwerty" although it was not.

Look for this into "Revolution Preference", then into XP Keyboard set
up and found nothing.

Can somebody tell me where I should go to use my Azerty KeyBoard ?

Many thanks

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Re: (no subject)

[xavier . bury]

Rev shouldn't have anything to do regarding what keyboard is in use.

The only place where that can be set is in your PC's control panel (or the 
taskbar icon if you have one).

Note that Rev will not see the keyboard change so you need to quit and 
start over to see it changed.

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/01/2006 11:01:34:

> Looking for PC Expert Help,
> 
> Working on Mac I'm developing an application I'd like to work on both 
> sides of the frontier.
> 
> I do most of  my test using "Virtual PC".
> 
> As far as "Controls" are concerned I'm fine.
> 
> I began to use the Keyboard to enter data and got into trouble: the 
> keyboard was working as "QWERTY"  KB although mine was an "AZERTY"
> 
> As I didn't find any explanation I installed Rev 1.6.1 on a true XP 
> machine and got the same trouble:
> 
> Revolution itself when scripting was considering the KeyBoard as 
> "Qwerty" although it was not.
> 
> Look for this into "Revolution Preference", then into XP Keyboard set 
> up and found nothing.
> 
> Can somebody tell me where I should go to use my Azerty KeyBoard ?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Mark Smith]

You seem to suggest that RR is both too neglectful of the list and,  
at the same time, too strict in it's moderation of same.


I don't understand.

Mark



On 15 Dec 2005, at 20:47, Mathewson wrote:


1. I liked the separate Paint Tools palette in RR 2.0.1 -

just seen a "bad case" of disclosure triangles on the
SuperCard Trial - not to my taste . . .

Um, Taste (quod degustibus diputandem est?)

2. I am being even more hypocritical than usual by
discussing these matters HERE having set up a Grpahics
forum -

HOWEVER - I like the RR use-list 'warts and all' - But it
seems that H. Nagey and the other folks at RR (the company)
don't like 'warts' on their list. This might be taken as a
negative sign in its own right.

If a landlord is absent for many years and his/her property
is occupied by tenants that she/he invited in don't they
acquire certain rights over it, 'by habit and repute' as we
say in SCOTLAND ! "SQUATTER'S RIGHTS" and all that?

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Re: (no subject)

[Stephen Barncard]

From the little I know about stage lighting - they use a dc voltage 
(0-10v) to control dimmers. So to begin, you'd need an A-D controller 
that can work with REV, such as the one describe earlier last week:



Hardware Control consoles for this purpose are incredibly cheap, like 
cheap audio mixers.
This unit here costs $200, and uses MIDI for control. Perhaps this 
might be part of your solution -- then all you need it a 
USB-To-Serial dongle  and a way to adapt it to a MIDI connector..

http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?q=DMX+stage+lighting&pid=4831398326042607349&oid=1414116561199851882&btnG=Search+Froogle&lmode=&addr=&scoring=p&hl=en

I wonder if anyone has used rev with DMX for stage Lighting. I am 
interested in using it of this product if posable any advice would 
greatly be appreciated.

Liam Lambert
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[Devin Asay]

Sorry folks, that was supposed to have gone to support at runrev. On  
the bright side, it appears that I am out of limbo.


Devin

On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Devin Asay wrote:


Heather, et al,

I decided to unsubscribe my former email address (which is actually  
an alias and which wreaks mischief on mail list submissions) and  
resubscribe with my new gmail address. When I attempted the latter,  
I discovered it had already been done for me (thanks, Heather.)  
However, the message that I sent yesterday morning, datetime  
stamped " Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:56:53 -0600", never showed up on the  
list. Is my new address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps in list  
member limbo somewhere?


Thanks and Regards,

Devin

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[Scott Kane - Reptile Software Consultant]

> please take me off your lost

Go to the URL below (click on it) and you can take
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Re: (no subject)

[Thomas McGrath III]

Eric,

It felt like I was saying a lot in my reply. You have to read between 
the lines! :-)



On Jul 6, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Hi tom,

Your answer is as terse as the question :-)
Since the subject is no subject... you are perfectly right!

Le 6 juil. 05 à 15:01, Thomas McGrath III a écrit :


On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Dan Ianciac wrote:









Best Regards from Paris,

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[Eric Chatonet]

Hi tom,

Your answer is as terse as the question :-)
Since the subject is no subject... you are perfectly right!

Le 6 juil. 05 à 15:01, Thomas McGrath III a écrit :


On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Dan Ianciac wrote:









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On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Dan Ianciac wrote:






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Re: (no subject)

[Jon]

Marielle:

Thanks for your thoughts.  Others on the list have demonstrated to my 
satisfaction that there is no easy way to actually use the Rev language 
to manipulate the arrays in an efficient manner, Jim's comments 
notwithstanding.  If I'm willing to use externals of any sort, it is 
easy to speed things up.  My interest was only in writing portable code 
with Rev, not in learning or using ancillary facilities, if which there 
are myriad I'm sure.


:)

Jon



Marielle Lange wrote:


Jon,

My point exactly: "a large array of numbers" = "data" So is the photograph
you are computing the histogram on. Would either of these change, if you
switch languages? Hence, they are external to your language, or "data."

I write business application software, so I've never had to compute a
histogram and admit I have no clue as to what's involved in that process.

But, if you know the kind of data manipulation you will be doing in advance,
you can parse, index, or otherwise reorganize the source data in such a way
as to minimize large data sources or "large arrays."

Now, depending on how well you organized your data, whether your language is
in pcode or machine compiled, results in only milliseconds of difference.
   



Jim,

I support your view... I often have to manipulate huge lexical databases (50.000
lines, 50 columns). Usint the same computer language, I was often able to cut
running time down from 30 minutes to 2 min. by using more effective resource
management techniques.

Jon,

If you cannot see ways in which you can reorganize your data... why not consider
using Awk for your array processing (something that Awk excels at). Awk is
freely available on any platform, doesn't take more than 200K, and can be
learned in one day for your purpose (simple array processing). It is quite easy
to call to it to do array processing on large data and get the result back to
revolution. You will find information about Awk at
 (Why GAWK for AI?)


Marielle
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Re: (no subject) -- (I want to start to use Revolution)

[Joel Rees]

> Question :
> 
> I want to start to use Revolution for future small personal business ...
> 
> what have I to download ?

I want to cook dinner. What stove should I buy?

(Okay, that was a little impertinent of me.)

> Thanxs in advance.

It would help if we know where you got lost trying to find the download.
Yes, blue on blue is a little hard to read, but the download link is

http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/downloads.html

Did you find that? Are you having other troubles?

Unless you're buying or have a license now, you do need to go through
this, too:

http://www.runrev.com/revolution/30daytrial/30daytrialshipping.html

Otherwise, they don't know where to send you the evaluation key.

HTH

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[Jan Schenkel]

--- Nitin wrote:
> Hi All
>  
> I am loading controls on  window at run time. Now if
> I want to change the control order of the controls
> run-time. Is there any solution
> Any Help would be appreciated
>  
> ~Nitin
>  

Hi Nitin,

Check out the entry for the 'layer' property in the
Transcript Dictionary.
For example :
  set the layer of fld "Foobar" to 1
  -- will send field "Foobar" all the way to the back

If you need to relayer controls that are grouped, make
sure you also read the entry for the
'relayerGroupedControls' global property.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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[Scott Rossi]

Recently, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  wrote:

> I want to create a gradient background for my stack without having to import
> an image for that purpose. Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this? Thanks!

The easiest way would be to use a gradient image.

If you want to do it the hard way, you can create a series of rectangle
graphics whose backColors are set to progressively changing RGB values.  If
you wanted to get really complicated, you could divide the change in color
of the gradient over the distance covered by the gradient and create an
efficient number of graphics on the fly, when resizing the stack.

There may be also some kind of QuickTime filter/effect that applies a
gradient to a movie, and thus a player object (QT is pretty deep), but you'd
have to investigate this.

I would suggest using an image.

Regards,

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Re: (no subject)

[Bill Vlahos]

Steve,

Depending on your distribution method (i.e. CD?) you could add your 
voice feedback as pre-recorded audio which would work on all platforms. 
It would have the limitations that the audio files would make it larger 
and you would only have a limited range of responses. Text to speech 
would let you respond with any text.

This would have the benefit that it would sound better than text to 
speech.

Bill Vlahos

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 09:16  PM, Stephen Messimer wrote:

Edwin, Mark and Chipp,

Thanks for the help guys.  I was hoping that I could add some nice 
voice type feedback to a project that could work cross platform. From 
your responses it doesn't sound like this is going to be very easy on 
the windows side. Bummer.
I will probably  to do this for the mac side.

Is there any other way to accomplish this on windows?

Regards and thanks again.

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[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 4:36 PM -0800 12/12/02, Sarah wrote:
>As someone else suggested, you need "choose browse tool", however there
>is a bug to do with this command so it doesn't always work. A
>workaround is to use:
>   send "choose browse tool" to me in 5 ticks

This should only be needed after a command that switches tools (most
usually the "create" command). (Just as a note.)

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[Sarah]

As someone else suggested, you need "choose browse tool", however there 
is a bug to do with this command so it doesn't always work. A 
workaround is to use:
	send "choose browse tool" to me in 5 ticks

Cheers,
Sarah

On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 08:33  am, Gareth Jones wrote:

Hello, people

I have an Address stack that I use daily. Too often, however, I click 
on it with the arrow cursor instead of the "hand" cursor. I would like 
to add a command to the OpenStack handler that would set the cursor to 
"hand." Unfortunately, this doesn't do the trick:

on openStack
  set the cursor to "hand"
end openStack

Any suggestions?

-Gareth
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[Monte Goulding]

open it as a palette

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> Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 8:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (no subject)
> 
> 
> Hello, people
> 
> I have an Address stack that I use daily. Too often, however, I click 
> on it with the arrow cursor instead of the "hand" cursor. I would 
> like to add a command to the OpenStack handler that would set the 
> cursor to "hand." Unfortunately, this doesn't do the trick:
> 
> on openStack
>set the cursor to "hand"
> end openStack
> 
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Re: (no subject)

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 12:15 PM -0700 9/20/2002, Jerry Thomas wrote:
>Are additional pattern backgrounds avaiable for Revolution? There are
>backgrounds available in the color pallete but they are from the days when
>16/256 color was all that was available. I'm looking for something kinder
>and gentler -- Clouds, a pale off white soft texture, something easier on
>the eyes and brain.
>Any suggestions, And if I can get something else, how do I get it into
>Revolution.  I have some great tiled bitmaps that work well in other
>programs.

Nothing built in, but you should be able to find something suitable on a
clip-art CD, I'd think.

Once you have a file with the pattern you want to use, just import it into
a stack. Revolution can use any image in any loaded stack as a tiled
background pattern - just set the backgroundPattern of the object to the ID
of the image. (You can import it into the stack where you want to use it,
then hide the image so it's not in the way. Or you can create a substack
and place any images you use in the substack for easier access. The
substack is always available whenever the main stack is open, even if the
substack window isn't open, so such an image can always be used.)

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[Roger . E . Eller]

Jerry,

Yes, it is easy to do this. Any graphic image (gif, jpg, png, maybe others)
that
you import as a control, view it's properties and make a note of it's ID
number.
Then type into a script or the message box...

set the backdrop to 1013 -- actual image ID number

Roger Eller
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 Jerry Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
> Dear Folks,
>
> Are additional pattern backgrounds avaiable for Revolution? There are
> backgrounds available in the color pallete but they are from the days
when
> 16/256 color was all that was available. I'm looking for something kinder
> and gentler -- Clouds, a pale off white soft texture, something easier on
> the eyes and brain.
> Any suggestions, And if I can get something else, how do I get it into
> Revolution.  I have some great tiled bitmaps that work well in other
> programs.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions



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[Jan Schenkel]

Hi Jerry,

If you have the table entered in Excel or AppleWorks
or another spreadsheet, you could always export the
data using "Save as" in "Text (tab-delimited)" format.
Then you can simply
  put URL "file:" into theData

Now you'll have everything read in a single variable,
where the rows are separated by return and the columns
by tab ; which you can easily display in a field
  put theData into field "tableField" 

If you setup that field with tabStops, and show both
the horizontal and vertical grid, you can get a nice
look for displaying the data.

It's also very easy to convert that variable (where
everything is still on several lines) into an array.
  split theData using return and tab

Now you can address any "cell" or "intersection" with
  put theData[,]

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish
at the same time."  (De Rochefoucald)

--- Jerry Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
>
> I have to enter the data in the 
> table by hand. The data are used in a simple
> arithmetic formula to calculate 
> the rest of the numbers in my project. The user will
> see the intersection 
> data that has been brought forth by this "lookup"
> table and it will be 
> printed in a form. They will not see the table it
> came from .  This is a 
> database or an array, albeit a very simple one and I
> need to know how to 
> program it in revolution. Thanks for your help
> though.
> 
> 
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[Ken Ray]

Jerry,

You just use partial paths based on where "the directory" points to. Most
people will insert a chunk of code that sets the directory to the location
of their stack (while they're developing), something like:

on openStack
put the fileName of me into tName
set the itemDel to "/"
delete last item of tName
set the directory to tName
end openStack

Then, any video/images/etc. would get a "filename" that is the remainder of
the path; for example, if an graphic "dog.jpg" was in an "images" folder,
and the "images" folder was at the same level as the standalone (or stack),
you would set the fileName of the image in Rev to be "images/dog.jpg".

Hope this helps,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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>
> I am a new user of Revolution. I noticed that both Videos and Images are
not
> embedded and need to connect with external files. This is easy when I'm
> building, the images and videos are right there on my hard drive. But when
I
> build to CD I need relative paths so that the images and videos I burned
to
> disc will play in anyones CD drive regardless of the Drive letter.  How do
> you create/insert relative paths in Revolution?
>
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Re: (no subject)

[Richard Gaskin]

Jerry Thomas wrote:

> What would you recommend to use with Revolution as a database method?
> These databases are only two dimensional. ROWS are Income in graduated steps
> and COLUMNS are Number of Children.
> All of your suggestions are welcome

What is the acticipated total size of the dataset (db only, not any of the
media or UI elements)?

If it's under 5MBs you have a lot of choices, perhaps the easiest of which
would be a simple tab-delimited file or an array.

If it's much larger than that you may want to consider using the db
externals provided with Rev.

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System and Heap resources was Re: (no subject)

[Mark MacKenzie]

Perfect introduction.  For multimedia projects which are intense and graphic
rich, the amount of resources needed  on the user's PC is of concern.
Techniques such as switching filenames for images, etc. can be used to keep
your "memory overhead" within reasonable limits.  But, how do you accurately
judge the "project overheads" your software is currently demanding?

In programs like iShell, a key command during  evaluation runtime launch
from within the editor causes a series of numbers to appear at bottom left
of the window.  They represent various system use and project demands
parameters.  Typically the current usage of memory, the high use reached so
far and the settings for the project initially.  Of most interest is the
system heap requirements which can be later be amended for the program by
using an .ini file.

Okay, enough about a foreign programme, I needed to use it as an example.
Can we follow system use and project high/low demands within Revolution?  If
so how do we get the information dynamically and how do we use it to design
our Revolution projects for the least system impact to get the best project?

Regards Mark


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snip
>
> The system heap, on the other hand, is dynamic, and available to other
applications. That's why many newer applications -- including Revolution --
allocate memory that way. As others have said, you can change the behaviour
of the standalones you build.
>
> regards,
>
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[Geoff Canyon]

At 12:05 AM + 3/20/02, Martin Baxter wrote:
>>Yates, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
>>
>>If indeed Rev allocates memory from the system
>>heap, then to optimize memory usage on a low memory mac, you should decrease
>>the applications memory partition from the "Get Info" window. That will
>>leave more memory available for the system heap to grow into.
>>
>>-Glen Yates
>>
>
>That's true enough Glen, however, it is not my idea of a solution. More a
>remedy of desperation.
>The solution is surely for the application to not do that in the first
>place. I can't believe it's really necessary, and it makes your computer
>crash.

The thing is, on OS X, Unix, and Windows > 95 (98?) an app that needs more memory 
simply has to ask for it. The system takes care of getting the memory for it, and if 
it dips into virtual memory, no problem. 

On Mac OS <=9, there is no way for an application to get more memory than you assign 
it _in its own partition_. This means that if you assign 2MB to an older Mac 
application and ask it to do something that requires 3MB, it will either: refuse; die 
gracefully; die horribly, possibly taking the OS with it.

The system heap, on the other hand, is dynamic, and available to other applications. 
That's why many newer applications -- including Revolution -- allocate memory that 
way. As others have said, you can change the behavior of the standalones you build.

regards,

Geoff

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Re: (no subject)

[Ken Norris]

on 3/19/02 4:05 PM, Martin Baxter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The solution is surely for the application to not do that in the first
> place. I can't believe it's really necessary, and it makes your computer
> crash.
--
I'm sure it has much to do with Rev's UI and extensive libraries, together
with it's cross-platform abilities. It has to cover a lot of ground, as I
said before. It's probably a sacrifice that needed to be made for OS X, too,
according to Scott R. It's almost impossible to make it do all that and run
perfectly on old Macs with low memory as well. I don't know of another dev
tool that does as much. But, I do agree, they should leave another way out,
trap for low memory and give a warning dialog or something, before it causes
a crash, or, at the least, tell the whole truth about how much memory you'll
need for a given machine and OS.
--
> Anyway I thought of an even better solution - I erased Revolution from the
> Quadra - no more problem. Everything happy now. Aaahh.
--
See, I...never mind...I won't say it...

All the best,
Ken N.

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Re: (no subject) or what to do with QuickTime

[Troy Rollins]

On Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 10:03 PM, Tim Chambers wrote:

> Does anyone know what to do after importing the control for a Quicktime 
> movie?

Yes.

> I have know idea what to do in the properties box or how to script it.

Ah.

>
> Would it be easier to do animations in the Animation Manager?
> Tried that too, and couldn't make heads or tails of it.
> I'm running an iMac with OSX 1.2.3.

The animation manager and the Quicktime controller are generally for 
different purposes. If you are attempting to play a Quicktime animation 
which already exists, the controller is the way you do that. Scripting 
it, happens in the script window. The animation manager is for... well, 
moving things around your cards in Revolution - you know, scrolling text 
over your graphics, sliding buttons on, and such. Perhaps you could 
indicate just what you are trying to accomplish?

--
Troy
RPSystems
www.rpsystems.net

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